[01:34] <locodir-user> Hello, I am new to Ubuntu. I have a netbook with a 500 GB hard drive and I am interested in setting up a small partition to install Ubuntu server to start experimenting with server products. I have Ubuntu desktop installed within Win 7 using Wubi. Can I use Wubi to set up a small installation of Ubuntu server? Or do I need to use Ubuntu server to set up a partition on my hard drive?
[01:36] <locodir-user> One note, I have already used Wubi to install Ubuntu desktop. Works nicely with this new netbook. Did not work with old 32bit laptop circa 2003.
[01:44] <ibeardslee> I'd suggest installing virtual box an then installing your ubuntu server in that.
[01:45] <ibeardslee> that means that you can access the server from the other environment (be it Windows or Ubuntu)
[01:47] <ibeardslee> installing it via wubi means that your workstation would boot into Windows, Ubuntu Desktop or Ubuntu Server.
[01:47] <ibeardslee> And generally a server is 'useless' unless it has something connecting to it ;)
[02:17] <locodir-user> I am sorry I am new to this. What do you mean by "something connecting to it"? I would have the internet connecting to it? Cheers
[02:20] <ojwb> but only when you aren't running one of your desktop OSes on the machine
[02:21] <snail> locodir-user: usually a sever has client connected to it
[02:21] <snail> usually a file server is useless without another machine to access those files, for example
[02:24] <locodir-user> But could I not access the files using a second machine from home?
[02:25] <locodir-user> Could I not boot up Ubuntu server on one machine and access files over the internet from another machine, say a Mac?
[02:26] <snail> locodir-user: yes, but you've not yet mentioned any second machine...
[02:26] <ojwb> you could, but it's a lot more convenient not to have to shutdown the server each time you want to run a desktop on the netbook
[02:26] <ojwb> at least I've never found dual boot worked well for me in the past
[02:27] <ojwb> also if you run it as a VM you can easily snapshot it and experiment with stuff knowing you can restore the snapshot trivially if you want to
[02:28] <ojwb> or clone it
[02:29] <locodir-user> so i can run virtual box from within Ubuntu desktop?
[02:31] <ojwb> yes, or on windows
[02:31] <ojwb> not sure if you can sanely have the same VMs available from both
[02:34] <locodir-user> I guess then since I have a mac and a Win 7 netbook both connected to the internet and Ubuntu desktop installed via Wubi on the second I can just install virtual box within the Ubuntu desktop and install Ubuntu server within that. That would make sense. Then I can observe what is going on. Thanks
[02:37] <ojwb> probably, unless there's an issue running virtualbox inside wubi
[02:37] <ojwb> I know nothing about how wubi works so not sure about that
[18:26] <chilts> morning
[18:26]  * chilts beats ibeardslee :)
[18:37] <ibeardslee> damn .. should have sat down and logged in before getting breakfast
[18:37] <ibeardslee> morning
[19:18] <Atamira> morning
[19:22] <snail> morning
[19:22] <snail> ibeardslee: is your ankle still not good? seems like forever since i saw you on the bus...
[19:23] <ajmitch> morning
[19:58] <hads> Morning
[20:27] <ibeardslee> snail: yeah still hobbling around
[20:28] <ibeardslee> just back from physio, seems to be feeling betterer
[20:28] <snail> sounds painful
[20:29] <ibeardslee> not a gentle back massage anyway
[20:48] <Atamira> i could do with a gentle back massage
[21:59] <ojwb> morning
[22:49] <mwhudson> morning
[22:49]  * mwhudson scrapes in