[00:07] <seidos> hi everybody
[00:07] <seidos> well that figures that the list would bounce an email from an unregistered account
[00:07] <seidos> i had to do it to find out though
[00:08] <seidos> just heard about a hackathon @ UCLA this 10/27
[01:49] <seidos> anyone else watching Colbert?  loving the purple tie
[02:24] <DarkwingDuck> kdub_: ping
[06:50] <bkerensa> pleia2: What do you use for twitter ;)
[06:53] <pleia2> bitlbee and my phone
[06:55] <bkerensa> oh ok
[06:55] <bkerensa> pleia2: Well I run OpenBox now so I need to find a new client
[06:55] <bkerensa> :(
[06:55] <pleia2> oh, and the image posts I do via email to flickr
[06:55] <bkerensa> TweetDeck is not working out so well with OpenBox
[06:55] <pleia2> I run seesmic web on my 2nd desktop to view twitter and facebook
[06:56] <pleia2> and g+ gets it's own browser window because it's interface automagically updates without clicky clicky (ahem, twitter!)
[06:56] <nhaines> bkerensa: use gwibber?
[06:57] <bkerensa> nhaines: :P not working
[06:57] <bkerensa> :)
[06:57] <pleia2> bkerensa @ gmail, si?
[06:57] <bkerensa> hmm?
[06:57] <bkerensa> yeah gmail for personal stuffs
[06:57] <bkerensa> :D
[06:57] <pleia2> your email address
[06:58] <pleia2> sending you a picture
[06:58] <bkerensa> k
[06:58] <bkerensa> nhaines: I'm giving Crunchbang a spin :) apparently OpenBox on Ubuntu does not work so well due to the release cycles
[06:58] <pleia2> twitter, facebook, g+, respectively
[06:58] <bkerensa> :D
[06:58] <pleia2> try fluxbox, it actually has an active maintainer in debian
[06:59] <bkerensa> crunchbang does :)
[06:59] <pleia2> ah, good
[06:59] <bkerensa> in fact the crunchbang guy used to have crunchbang as a ubuntu base but the release cycles were to fast for him to handle :)
[07:00] <pleia2> distros that base on LTS are smart
[07:00]  * bkerensa is using Crunchbang on his FreekBox for the lightweight.... Xubuntu failed me so idk :P 
[07:00] <pleia2> Day changed to 28 Sep 2011 :(
[07:00] <pleia2> my alarm is going off in 7 hours
[07:00] <bkerensa> ooo
[07:00] <bkerensa> time for bed?
[07:00] <bkerensa> :D
[07:00] <pleia2> yeah, Xubuntu isn't what you want for lightweight
[07:01] <bkerensa> pleia2: Well I just dont want Unity
[07:01] <pleia2> bright side, it's the 28th now, so now I can say my birthday is tomorrow \o/
[07:01] <bkerensa> :P
[07:01] <bkerensa> and KDE is not my thing
[07:01] <pleia2> but two more sleepies before birthday
[07:01] <bkerensa> idk I'm being radical lately when it comes to usage :P
[07:02]  * bkerensa has formatted his desktop and laptop likely 10 times in two months
[07:02] <pleia2> my desktop evolution went evolution (16) > fluxbox > xfce4
[07:02] <bkerensa> keep trying to find something that is not using Unity but still Debian or Ubuntu based
[07:03] <pleia2> at this point I think I've used xfce4 longer than any other windowing interface thing ever
[07:03] <bkerensa> pleia2: I guess I could just run LPS?
[07:03] <pleia2> LPS?
[07:03] <pleia2> you swim laps, not run them
[07:03] <bkerensa> http://www.spi.dod.mil/lipose.htm <-- Lightweight Portable Security
[07:03] <bkerensa> :D
[07:04] <pleia2> lol
[07:04] <bkerensa> the DOD decided to release a distro
[07:04] <bkerensa> :P
[07:04] <bkerensa> and made their ISO's public
[07:04] <pleia2> yeah, they've been pretty outspoken about their open source documents and push lately
[07:04] <pleia2> it's pretty cool
[07:04] <bkerensa> maybe the gov will save money
[07:04] <bkerensa> :D
[07:04] <bkerensa> instead of pouring billions into licensing
[07:04] <bkerensa> :D
[07:05] <bkerensa> pleia2: What is your thoughts on Xubuntu 11.10?
[07:05] <bkerensa> Any major changes?
[07:05] <pleia2> it uses xfce 4.8 which is muy shiny
[07:05] <pleia2> (upgrade from 4.6)
[07:05] <pleia2> oh wait
[07:05] <pleia2> 11.10
[07:05] <pleia2> no, not a huge jump from 11.04
[07:07] <pleia2> switched to lightdm with the rest of ubuntu, changed some of the defaults
[07:07] <bkerensa> pleia2: Why does Maverick seem more lightweight then Natty (Classic)
[07:07] <pleia2> regular Ubuntu?
[07:07] <bkerensa> indeed yeah
[07:07] <bkerensa> I noticed Natty (Classic) seems to consume more CPU then Maverick
[07:07] <pleia2> I don't know
[07:08] <bkerensa> hmm
[07:08] <pleia2> gnome runs all kinds of background stuff and always gets bigger, who knows
[07:08] <bkerensa> yeah
[07:08] <pleia2> I am giving an Ubuntu 11.10 talk in Philly in a couple weeks because I figured "if I'm going, I might as well give a talk!" when did I become this person? I need to write a talk
[07:09] <bkerensa> well ttyl sleep time :D
[07:09] <pleia2> night bkerensa
[07:09] <pleia2> I should do the same, I have a degraded raid array to deal with in the morning :(
[07:09] <bkerensa> or perhaps my excuse is reformatting so I gotta go to bed :P
[07:12]  * pleia2 wanders toward beed
[07:12] <pleia2> bed too!
[07:13] <pleia2> night everyone
[07:13] <nhaines> pleia2: good night!
[07:56] <bkerensa> nhaines: my desktop almost exploded
[07:56] <bkerensa> :(
[07:57] <bkerensa> That was intense
[07:57] <bkerensa> =o
[07:57] <bkerensa> something wicked happened to my CPU fan
[07:57] <bkerensa> I smelled melting plastic then I heard my cpu fan and power supply fan start going super loud and fast
[07:57] <bkerensa> :P
[08:14] <nhaines> bkerensa: that's what you get for running GNOME3!  :P
[17:32] <raevol> check out a project i am involved with: www.openmw.org
[17:42] <nhaines> It is possible that this page is not suitable for visiting in a work environment.
[17:45] <akk> I tend not to click on random links that show up with no more explanation than "check this out" anyway.
[17:45] <akk> I figure if it's interesting enough to check out, it's interesting enough to merit a description of what it is.
[17:54] <raevol> it's an open source reimplementation of the morrowind game engine
[17:54] <raevol> i'm not sure why it would be nsfw, other than being game related
[17:54] <raevol> thanks for the incredibly hostile response guys, love this community a lot
[17:55] <pleia2> raevol: we don't know you very well and it's common for people to use IRC to spam malicious links, I didn't click it either
[17:56] <pleia2> just next time tell us what it is :)
[17:56] <raevol> a simple "what is this?" would do though, rather than implying i'm some kind of creep or spammer
[17:57] <TheTinker> i've been alternately labeled a creep and a spammer (not here) and i don't even do that
[17:57] <TheTinker> such is irc
[17:58] <pleia2> one of the private servers I work on even has a kickban spam filter on the regex with "check out $link"
[17:58] <raevol> every other irc channel i frequent is more welcoming and understanding than this one, maybe i just have really good luck with irc
[18:19] <nhaines> raevol: I clicked on the link and my company's content filter blocked it.
[18:20] <nhaines> raevol: that doesn't put me on a "list" with HR (I think) but I've worked for other companies that are absolutely fanatical about that kind of thing.
[18:25] <raevol> nhaines: if your company has a content filter, you probably shouldn't be on irc, or clicking random links, even if they aren't nsfw
[18:29] <nhaines> raevol: meanwhile, I don't access IRC from my company's network and when I open "random" links they're on a secured secondary computer.
[18:30] <raevol> nhaines: secured, but still subject to your company's content filter?
[18:30] <nhaines> Yes.  All computers connected to the network are subject to the content filter.
[18:30] <raevol> e_e
[18:31] <nhaines> I don't know what you think "secured" means, but in this instance it means a different system with a different OS and minimal work-related data.
[18:31] <pleia2> raevol: I'm sure no one meant to be unwelcoming, I'm sorry that we've given that impression
[18:32] <raevol> pleia2: no worries, sorry if i am a little touchy
[18:32] <nhaines> raevol: I didn't give a warning in-channel because your link was "bad" (I have no way to know this yet), I did it because some people work for tyrants.  :)
[18:33] <raevol> yea... i think common sense would dictate to not use IRC nor do any non-work related web browsing if your employer filters or tracks your web usage
[18:33] <raevol> but then again, common sense is increasingly rare these days
[18:34] <nhaines> My company doesn't really care what I do when I'm on break but they still don't want me playing games or streaming media at any time.
[18:35] <raevol> cool
[18:36] <pleia2> it really depends on the company, I don't think it's fair to put that all under "common sense" and accuse people of not having common sense if their work environment varies
[18:38] <pleia2> meh, hot again today, I'm ready for summer to be over in SF now
[18:38] <pleia2> (looks like it'll cool down this weekend)
[18:38] <raevol> it's finally getting cloudy in san diego
[18:39] <pleia2> does san diego have summer weather at the normal summer time?
[18:39] <raevol> yea
[18:39] <pleia2> san francisco's July-Aug is cold, Sept-Oct is hot thing still weirds me out
[18:39] <raevol> san diego has summer weather most of the year
[18:40] <raevol> october-march has a little bit of clouds and rain
[18:40] <raevol> interspersed with more summer weather
[18:40] <pleia2> I think we got rain in january, but mostly we don't have weather, it's just in the 50s all the time
[18:41] <pleia2> but 80s today, and no AC in my condo :(
[18:41] <pleia2> and I work from home
[18:42] <akk> It's so weird how SF is as hot as SJ this summer.
[18:42] <akk> (just got to 80 here)
[18:42] <pleia2> last september was worse, got over 90!
[18:43] <pleia2> hit 100 in the mission one day, we all thought we were going to die :)
[18:44] <raevol> simple-scan has crashed every time i've tried to save this document
[18:44] <raevol> and i have to rescan it every time it crashes
[18:44] <raevol> about to smash my head into the wall
[18:44] <raevol> wish i could find a good windows scanning utility
[18:44]  * akk has pretty good luck in ubuntu with xsane-gimp
[18:44] <pleia2> maybe try xsane?
[18:45] <raevol> gonna try windows pciture viewer :P then i won't have to transfer it anyway
[19:49] <kdub> hey greg-g, move from michigan? :P
[19:50] <pleia2> yeah, we need to stop stealing people from other locos
[19:51]  * kdub considers applying for membership a third time...
[19:52] <kdub> pleia2, is that still done be an america's regional board?
[19:53] <kdub> also, the first too times i've been rejected for being too developery
[19:53] <kdub> but from reading the guidelines for 'developer membership', i don't think i should apply for that
[19:53] <pleia2> kdub: if you're an ubuntu developer you want to go through the dev membership board: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard
[19:53] <pleia2> ah ok, I don't remember your application for some reason
[19:53] <kdub> i'm not exactly an ubuntu /developer/ though, like  MOTU
[19:54] <pleia2> care to share a link to your wiki page? I can offer some suggestions if needed
[19:54] <kdub> oh, it was back when the michigan team was my home team, a few years ago :)
[19:54] <kdub> pleia2: thanks, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KevinDuBois
[19:56] <pleia2> kdub: this app actually looks pretty good, might want to add some future goals though
[19:56] <pleia2> and testimonials are always good :)
[20:00] <kdub> yeah... would you mind adding a testimonial? :)
[20:03] <pleia2> I'm on the board so I can't
[20:03]  * bkerensa is likely going to defer applying for membership another month
[20:03] <bkerensa> :P
[20:03] <pleia2> ask other people though :)
[20:04] <bkerensa> Was too busy to put my application together
[20:04] <bkerensa> :D
[20:04] <bkerensa> and I got another convention
[20:04] <bkerensa> :(
[20:04] <kdub> ok
[20:04] <bkerensa> plus I start teaching Ubuntu classes in couple weeks at the FreeGeek Community Center :P
[20:04] <bkerensa> so maybe by January :D
[20:11] <nhaines> I am happy because I have ramen.
[20:12] <nhaines> I forgot to pick up forks while I was in the cafeteria (I wasn't eating ramen there) but my chop sticks will have to do.
[20:12] <nhaines> In other news, I printed some audit cheat sheets I use to take notes while listening to calls and Ubuntu Light > Times New Roman.
[21:34] <pleia2> DarkwingDuck: I finally found a shipping tube big enough for this crazy banner!
[21:34]  * pleia2 was getting ready to wrap the thing in bubblewrap and plastic and hope for the best
[21:44] <raevol> pleia2: is that for libertopia?
[21:49] <pleia2> raevol: yep, we're sending down the banner and tablecloth
[21:50] <raevol> sweet, i'll hopefully be helping with that, i need to chat with DarkwingDuck
[22:11] <DarkwingDuck> What's up?
[22:11] <DarkwingDuck> OH right, banner
[22:13] <pleia2> tried container store, a few office supply stores, USPS, a couple small fedexes, finally found a BIG fedex office that had the 4ft tubes :)
[22:13] <pleia2> I'll get it packed up tonight
[22:14] <DarkwingDuck> LOL
[22:16] <DarkwingDuck> Well, there are two nominations up for leadership.
[22:16] <pleia2> yeah, us
[22:16] <pleia2> hehe
[22:16] <DarkwingDuck> LOL
[22:55] <nhaines> Does the leadership team plan to suspend elections again if there are less than 4 nominations?
[22:56] <DarkwingDuck> We did last time when we only had three...
[22:58] <DarkwingDuck> well, rather, if there are three then there will be no elections, the three will assume the position.
[22:58] <pleia2> yeah, it's what I've done in other ubuntu teams, just a casual "if people have problems with these nominees, please speak up, otherwise they are the three"
[22:58] <pleia2> haven't really hand problems with it, edubuntu did a confirmation vote once
[22:58] <DarkwingDuck> However, if there are only two... I'm not sure what then.
[22:58] <nhaines> What does the leadership team plan to do if there are less than three nominees?
[22:59] <pleia2> we'll have to extend the nomination period
[22:59] <DarkwingDuck> Into UDS season. Woot.
[22:59] <pleia2> (the community council has had to do this a few times too)
[23:00] <DarkwingDuck> Hopfully there is al least one person who wants to do it.
[23:00] <DarkwingDuck> s/al/at
[23:28] <greg-g> kdub_: indeed :) Moved out here a few weeks ago
[23:31]  * DarkwingDuck rubs eyes
[23:31] <DarkwingDuck> This weekend is going to be insane.
[23:32] <DarkwingDuck> My aunt and cousin are going to be here for the weekend. I think this is their second time visiting San Diego
[23:33] <pleia2> I'm flying to a memorial service in phoenix :\
[23:33] <DarkwingDuck> :(
[23:33] <pleia2> but I'll get to see a lot of family I haven't seen in a while
[23:33] <raevol> DarkwingDuck: what's the leadership team for?
[23:33] <DarkwingDuck> raevol: What one?
[23:33] <DarkwingDuck> :D
[23:33] <raevol> the one that there's only 2 people nominated
[23:34] <DarkwingDuck> Ahh, the Loco Leadership
[23:34] <raevol> for ca?
[23:34] <DarkwingDuck> Yes
[23:34] <raevol> huh, i see
[23:34] <DarkwingDuck> wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Leadership
[23:35] <iheartubuntu> sorry pleia2
[23:35] <pleia2> iheartubuntu: sorry?
[23:35] <DarkwingDuck> raevol: pleia2 and myself are running for re-election.
[23:35] <iheartubuntu> sorry to hear the news
[23:35] <pleia2> iheartubuntu: oh, thank you
[23:35] <pleia2> iheartubuntu: my uncle and I weren't close, but I am with his wife and other family, mostly going to be there for them
[23:35] <raevol> i see, i see
[23:39] <iheartubuntu> enjoying the cooler nights here in LA
[23:39] <iheartubuntu> easier to sleep :)
[23:39] <iheartubuntu> soon there will be ubuntu logos dancing in my head
[23:40] <raevol> 20 minutes
[23:40] <raevol> guess i'll pack up now