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=== chrispluns is now known as binarymutant
binarymutantI think i've reinstalled ubuntu like 5 times already00:35
binarymutantright now without sound :/00:35
Unit193/set nick binarymutant   :P00:37
Unit193You know what's going wrong?00:38
binarymutantsaved it, ty00:42
binarymutantneed to set up alsa I think00:43
Unit193I like wrst's idea to redirect all questions to cyberanger ;)00:44
wrstha ha00:52
Unit193But he's busy nowadays00:53
wrstbinarymutant: what's been up with your ubuntu troubles?00:54
Unit193You did it again...00:56
wrsthmm i seem to run everyone off00:58
Unit193Well, I blame everything on you it seems :D00:58
wrstworks for me00:59
wrstwhatever it takes Unit193 :)00:59
pace_t_zuluhello chaps00:59
Unit193Hello pace_t_zulu and welcome back binarymutant01:00
binarymutantokay, my user isn't in the sound group or something01:00
wrstbinarymutant: how did that happen?01:01
wrstbut easy enought to fix at least01:01
binarymutantwrst: minimal install01:01
pace_t_zulubinarymutant: fuck yea01:01
pace_t_zulubinarymutant: +100001:01
binarymutant:D01:01
wrstahh that makes since binarymutant01:02
wrsti have to do all that stuff in arch but not used to that in ubuntu01:02
wrsthowdy pace_t_zulu01:03
Unit193I've done it for openbox01:04
wrsti've never done a minimal install01:07
binarymutantit's been a pain :D01:08
* wrst downloads the mini.iso to see how it works01:09
binarymutantbrb01:10
binarymutantyay ftw01:16
binarymutantmini install only saved me ~300Mb01:17
wrstyeah binarymutant i've found with arch i don't save a lot of HDD space but i get a lot of speed because I have so few daemons and what not running and going01:18
binarymutanthopefully I get that speed factor then because right now I feel like it was a waste of time01:19
binarymutantalthough I do have my custom DE and everything on 1.4Gb01:19
binarymutantcouldn't setup network-manager by myself though, so went with wicd01:20
binarymutantum... does webkit not unicode enabled? or do I just not have the fonts installed01:23
wrstbinarymutant: wb :)01:31
binarymutantheh :D01:32
binarymutantflash is leaving some nasty artifacts in my terminals01:32
wrstbinarymutant: have no clue i am just happy when flash works...01:33
binarymutantit's working, just not as expected01:35
binarymutantwrst: are you using oneiric? should I dist-upgrade to it or nay?01:38
wrstbinarymutant: i'm using arch, i have oneric isntalled01:38
wrstbut oneriric seems pretty good01:39
binarymutantupgrading to it01:40
binarymutantfingers crossed01:40
wrstbinarymutant: i got tired of depending on upgrades every six months01:40
binarymutantdebian unstable is nice, and has the best package manager :D01:41
wrstnah using arch binarymutant, debians packages still lag behind compared to arch :)01:41
binarymutantvery true01:41
wrstwell i don't know about unstable, but testing anyway01:42
binarymutantpacman is too weird for me though. `pacman -yyyK` strange options01:42
binarymutantdebian unstable still lags behind arch pkg though01:44
wrstbinarymutant: its not that bad and I use package kit for a lot of things anyway on gnome01:50
binarymutantwhat's package kit?01:51
wrstbut pretty much -Syu syncs and updates -S install -R remove and -Rd remove and remove dependencies01:51
wrstgui package manager01:51
binarymutantah01:51
wrsti use gnome package kit01:51
wrstbinarymutant: everything you wanted, or didn't want to know:https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman_Rosetta01:53
binarymutantjust saying, their options aren't in english :P01:55
wrstno but it works really fast :)01:56
wrstbinarymutant: i'm trying an ubuntu minimal install in a VM01:56
binarymutantit's all right, I think the mini is ~700Mb01:57
wrstafter getting things isntalled binarymutant?01:57
binarymutantuh no, ~700Mb with absolutly the bare minimal01:58
binarymutantlike apt01:58
wrstok it seems to have hung up on me01:58
wrsti liked the iso was only 28MB :)01:58
binarymutantyeah the iso was super small01:59
wrstnope installing grub01:59
binarymutantI wanna go back to lilo but don't want to do anything that will mess up my new installation01:59
wrstwell this seems to be a fail02:01
binarymutant? where at?02:01
wrstthe minimal isntall02:01
wrstno login prompt02:01
binarymutant??02:02
wrstjust boots a while then black screen02:02
binarymutantctrl+alt+f102:02
wrstyeah not for sure how to do that in Vbox02:03
binarymutantcan't remember how to pass that in virtual box, been too long02:03
wrstahh host+f102:04
binarymutantthat work?02:08
wrstyep02:09
binarymutantcool, now you have a blinking cursor :D02:09
wrstyep and a crazy xorg after installing fluxbox and lightdm :)02:10
binarymutantlightdm didn't work fer me :/02:10
binarymutantbut yeah I went to fluxbox first too :D02:11
Unit193You need a ppa for natty02:11
wrstUnit193: this is oneiric02:11
binarymutantxdm has been good to me02:11
Unit193wrst: As long as he got a greeter with it02:11
binarymutantxdm or startx02:12
wrsthmm well i forgot good ol ubuntu isn't like arch you install something and it starts up all the time...02:12
binarymutantbrb oneiric just got done02:12
binarymutantXorg needs to bring ctrl+alt+backspace back02:13
wrstyes02:13
binarymutant...geeze I though it was done02:18
wrsti'm reinstalling...02:22
binarymutantthat mini install?02:24
wrstyeah ssh didn't work for somereason and I couldn't access anything02:25
binarymutantlinux3.0!02:33
wrstbeen running it for well a long time now :P02:35
wrstlooks like since aug 30 :)02:36
binarymutantfrom your uptime?02:36
wrstno just looked at the packages02:37
wrsti'm on a laptop02:37
wrstso a 3 day uptime is a lot02:37
wrstmy server runs ubuntu02:37
binarymutantdid you use the virtual package? ubuntu-server02:40
binarymutantI wondered what was on it02:40
wrstno i just used a straight up ubuntu server install02:40
wrsti started way back at 9.04 i think and am running 11.04 on this box02:41
wrstwell binarymutant i'm going to check out for the night i will catch you tomorrow02:41
binarymutantlater02:42
binarymutantI get knocked off a lot..06:24
xpistosMorning12:59
wrstmorning xpistos13:09
* wrst just used an ssh tunnel for the first time... wow cool beans13:09
xpistosme likey13:18
wrstyes very cool and just a longer ping time no real loss in speed I will certainly be doing this when I travel13:18
pace_t_zuluhey guys15:53
pace_t_zului missed binarymutant last night15:54
pace_t_zuluawesome to see him re-emerge though15:54
wrstyeah seems to be doing well15:54
wrstpace_t_zulu:  how are you doing?15:54
pace_t_zuluwrst: great15:56
pace_t_zuluwrst:  you?15:56
wrstdoing well pace_t_zulu, just got a little cyberanger and am brwosing the web via an ssh tunnel15:57
pace_t_zuluwrst: ?15:57
pace_t_zului didn't know that cyberanger was contagious ;)15:58
wrstgot a little security nutso as our friend cyberanger always is :)15:58
wrstwanted to check it out for using public wifi and what not15:58
pace_t_zuluoh15:58
pace_t_zuluusing a mac?15:58
pace_t_zului've been tunneling on public wifi for months15:58
pace_t_zuluwrst: actually tunneling on public wifi is the original reason for my cloud deployment15:59
pace_t_zuluwrst: using a mac ... u should check out 'SideStep' and 'Tunnelblick'15:59
wrstpace_t_zulu: here at work i'm doing it rather rough have putty connected to my server and have firefox setup to use it for a proxy16:00
wrston my linux machine i should be able to tunnel everything if i'm not mistaken16:00
* wrst is using winders at work16:00
pace_t_zuluwrst: yea16:01
wrsti don't need it at work but just had a moment to try it out16:01
pace_t_zulureboot16:36
vychuneo/18:24
cyberangerwrst: ssh tunnels are nice18:29
Unit193Nice? They are very handy18:30
Unit193cyberanger: Good afternoon!18:30
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: should I alert the CDC, put myself in a querentine? didn't know I was contagious18:30
* cyberanger wonders if that's really a bad thing (well, bad for microsoft I suppose)18:31
cyberangerUnit193: afternoon18:31
wrstcyberanger: yes they are18:32
wrsthand and nice18:32
vychuneas usual nobody home19:05
* wrst is in the hosue19:20
vychunewrst possible guy to be in here lol19:20
vychunesup dude19:20
wrstnot much vychune how are you?19:21
vychunegood19:21
vychunemaking use of coud9 1de19:21
vychune*cloud19:21
cyberangervychune: that's fine with me, the coffee here tastes better ;-)19:25
* cyberanger spits it out and grabs a Dr. Pepper anyhow (hot mud, yuck)19:25
vychunecyberanger: you lost me19:25
cyberangervychune: as usual nobody home (I'm at a coffee shop)19:26
vychuneoh19:26
vychunesmh19:26
wrstyeah and actually i'm at work vychune :P19:26
* Unit193 is also at home19:26
vychuneanybody know php?19:26
wrstnever met them19:26
cyberangerwrst: php, eh .....19:27
* vychune is at the neighbor's because of having no service at home19:27
cyberangernot well enough19:27
wrsthello Brian-D missed your appearance!19:27
wrstvychune: i know enough to know when I mess something up I have to talk with someone that knows something :)19:27
vychunelol19:27
Brian-Dvychune: not anyone that would admit to it.19:28
Brian-Dwrst: greetings19:28
vychuneBrian-D: first of all, nice to meet you. second, ok19:29
wrstyes nice to meet you Brian-D19:29
* Unit193 the random weirdo says hello19:30
wrstUnit193: i think we are all random weirdos here19:30
vychunelol19:33
* vychune no longer understands the michael jackson case19:33
cyberangervychune: a Judge and district attonery lost an idol, don't want to believe he was crazy, an idiot or sucidial19:34
vychunei get that part but the arguements make no sense to me19:35
cyberangerthe doc did it or not, but this trial won't answer it anymore19:35
* Unit193 doesn't care enough19:36
vychuneUnit193: dang lol19:36
* cyberanger agrees with Unit19319:38
* cyberanger knows of people who could moonwalk better, Apollo style19:38
wrstwb binarymutant22:09
binarymutanttyty22:10
binarymutantwow Wellsville is horrible, I miss Knoxville22:52
binarymutantjust spent close to $3 on a 2liter22:53
Unit193POP? Brandname?22:53
binarymutantRC Cola !22:53
binarymutantthe only store in town is such a rip off22:53
Unit193That's not right... We get walmart for less than 8022:54
binarymutantClosest walmart is pretty far. I'm not used to having to make a "trip" out of going to Walmart yet22:54
Unit193No kidding, we could walk to it here (And I have, just isn't easy to take stuff back)22:55
binarymutantyeah city life is awesome, country life is expensive22:56
Unit193We used to live in the country and our cousins really live in the country!22:58
binarymutantI'm jealous of Maryville right now (never thought I'd say that)22:58
Unit193I can't comment on that part :P22:58
binarymutanthaving cable is awesome though :D23:02
Unit193They are stuck on bad dialup because nothing else will get to them except sat (Very costly)23:05
binarymutantwifimaxx is horrid23:05
binarymutantI'm surprised Charter/Comcast comes out here23:06
binarymutantI think dialup is probably better than wifimax23:06
binarymutantno caps23:07
Unit193They are at the end of the line and have phone issues at times ;P23:07
binarymutantah that sucks23:07
Unit193I've never used wifimaxx. We have RoadRunner/TWC now, it's nice23:08
binarymutantRoadrunner = Comcast?23:09
Unit193I love my shell account, ssh, and vnc. No, but it's cable23:09
binarymutantwifimaxx is the wifi satellite, caps and horrid speeds23:09
binarymutantis your shell free?23:10
Unit193Yep23:10
Unit193(I use irssi from home though)23:10
binarymutantwho provides? I was looking for a shell acct the other day23:11
binarymutantroadrunner is owned by time warner/comcast/charter/etc.23:11
Unit193#Ninthfloor(.org)23:11
binarymutantgah they own everything23:11
binarymutantI'll look them up23:12
Unit193RR has no caps, good speed, and don't have bad service23:12
Unit193Not saying they're the best one out there, but it's great for my use23:14
binarymutantcan you ssh tunnel with ninthfloor?23:14
Unit193Don't think so23:15
binarymutantaw23:16
Unit193Undesired activity: Use of the system as a transparent proxy.23:17
binarymutantya, most are like that23:17
Unit193[2011-09-28] Good news! Your web pages (the stuff in your ~/public_html) are now accessible at a shorter address (the old one still works): http://<username>.ninth.su/23:17
Unit193You can see the motd on the website as well as uptime stats (Just added because I said something about uptimed)23:18
Unit193Although, I feel like I should be somewhere right now...23:20
binarymutantwacthing aots?23:20
cyberangerbinarymutant: jealous of maryville?23:46
binarymutantyes with their walmarts and cheaper prices23:46
cyberangerdidn't know you'd lived there23:47
Unit193Well, I was kind of supposed to be somewhere, but it was too late :P23:47
binarymutantjust moved a week ago into Wellsville23:47
cyberangertarget is closer23:49
cyberangeryour in my neck of the woods there (well, my folks neck of the woods, more accurately)23:49
cyberangermatter of fact, drive through it 336 to get on 411 to roads down here23:53
cyberangeryeah, talking 10 miles to walmart, give or take where you are and your route23:53
cyberangerbinarymutant: just plan for issues with charter23:54
cyberangerthey're good, but when there's an issue, it's an issue23:54
cyberangerand middle of nowhere like that, yeah23:55
binarymutanthaven't had one yet23:55
binarymutantbut any internet is better than driving around looking for open wifi :D23:56
cyberangertrue23:56
cyberangerbut walking to the library is cheap23:57

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