[00:35] <binarymutant> I think i've reinstalled ubuntu like 5 times already
[00:35] <binarymutant> right now without sound :/
[00:37] <Unit193> /set nick binarymutant   :P
[00:38] <Unit193> You know what's going wrong?
[00:42] <binarymutant> saved it, ty
[00:43] <binarymutant> need to set up alsa I think
[00:44] <Unit193> I like wrst's idea to redirect all questions to cyberanger ;)
[00:52] <wrst> ha ha
[00:53] <Unit193> But he's busy nowadays
[00:54] <wrst> binarymutant: what's been up with your ubuntu troubles?
[00:56] <Unit193> You did it again...
[00:58] <wrst> hmm i seem to run everyone off
[00:58] <Unit193> Well, I blame everything on you it seems :D
[00:59] <wrst> works for me
[00:59] <wrst> whatever it takes Unit193 :)
[00:59] <pace_t_zulu> hello chaps
[01:00] <Unit193> Hello pace_t_zulu and welcome back binarymutant
[01:00] <binarymutant> okay, my user isn't in the sound group or something
[01:01] <wrst> binarymutant: how did that happen?
[01:01] <wrst> but easy enought to fix at least
[01:01] <binarymutant> wrst: minimal install
[01:01] <pace_t_zulu> binarymutant: fuck yea
[01:01] <pace_t_zulu> binarymutant: +1000
[01:01] <binarymutant> :D
[01:02] <wrst> ahh that makes since binarymutant
[01:02] <wrst> i have to do all that stuff in arch but not used to that in ubuntu
[01:03] <wrst> howdy pace_t_zulu
[01:04] <Unit193> I've done it for openbox
[01:07] <wrst> i've never done a minimal install
[01:08] <binarymutant> it's been a pain :D
[01:09]  * wrst downloads the mini.iso to see how it works
[01:10] <binarymutant> brb
[01:16] <binarymutant> yay ftw
[01:17] <binarymutant> mini install only saved me ~300Mb
[01:18] <wrst> yeah binarymutant i've found with arch i don't save a lot of HDD space but i get a lot of speed because I have so few daemons and what not running and going
[01:19] <binarymutant> hopefully I get that speed factor then because right now I feel like it was a waste of time
[01:19] <binarymutant> although I do have my custom DE and everything on 1.4Gb
[01:20] <binarymutant> couldn't setup network-manager by myself though, so went with wicd
[01:23] <binarymutant> um... does webkit not unicode enabled? or do I just not have the fonts installed
[01:31] <wrst> binarymutant: wb :)
[01:32] <binarymutant> heh :D
[01:32] <binarymutant> flash is leaving some nasty artifacts in my terminals
[01:33] <wrst> binarymutant: have no clue i am just happy when flash works...
[01:35] <binarymutant> it's working, just not as expected
[01:38] <binarymutant> wrst: are you using oneiric? should I dist-upgrade to it or nay?
[01:38] <wrst> binarymutant: i'm using arch, i have oneric isntalled
[01:39] <wrst> but oneriric seems pretty good
[01:40] <binarymutant> upgrading to it
[01:40] <binarymutant> fingers crossed
[01:40] <wrst> binarymutant: i got tired of depending on upgrades every six months
[01:41] <binarymutant> debian unstable is nice, and has the best package manager :D
[01:41] <wrst> nah using arch binarymutant, debians packages still lag behind compared to arch :)
[01:41] <binarymutant> very true
[01:42] <wrst> well i don't know about unstable, but testing anyway
[01:42] <binarymutant> pacman is too weird for me though. `pacman -yyyK` strange options
[01:44] <binarymutant> debian unstable still lags behind arch pkg though
[01:50] <wrst> binarymutant: its not that bad and I use package kit for a lot of things anyway on gnome
[01:51] <binarymutant> what's package kit?
[01:51] <wrst> but pretty much -Syu syncs and updates -S install -R remove and -Rd remove and remove dependencies
[01:51] <wrst> gui package manager
[01:51] <binarymutant> ah
[01:51] <wrst> i use gnome package kit
[01:53] <wrst> binarymutant: everything you wanted, or didn't want to know:https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman_Rosetta
[01:55] <binarymutant> just saying, their options aren't in english :P
[01:56] <wrst> no but it works really fast :)
[01:56] <wrst> binarymutant: i'm trying an ubuntu minimal install in a VM
[01:57] <binarymutant> it's all right, I think the mini is ~700Mb
[01:57] <wrst> after getting things isntalled binarymutant?
[01:58] <binarymutant> uh no, ~700Mb with absolutly the bare minimal
[01:58] <binarymutant> like apt
[01:58] <wrst> ok it seems to have hung up on me
[01:58] <wrst> i liked the iso was only 28MB :)
[01:59] <binarymutant> yeah the iso was super small
[01:59] <wrst> nope installing grub
[01:59] <binarymutant> I wanna go back to lilo but don't want to do anything that will mess up my new installation
[02:01] <wrst> well this seems to be a fail
[02:01] <binarymutant> ? where at?
[02:01] <wrst> the minimal isntall
[02:01] <wrst> no login prompt
[02:02] <binarymutant> ??
[02:02] <wrst> just boots a while then black screen
[02:02] <binarymutant> ctrl+alt+f1
[02:03] <wrst> yeah not for sure how to do that in Vbox
[02:03] <binarymutant> can't remember how to pass that in virtual box, been too long
[02:04] <wrst> ahh host+f1
[02:08] <binarymutant> that work?
[02:09] <wrst> yep
[02:09] <binarymutant> cool, now you have a blinking cursor :D
[02:10] <wrst> yep and a crazy xorg after installing fluxbox and lightdm :)
[02:10] <binarymutant> lightdm didn't work fer me :/
[02:11] <binarymutant> but yeah I went to fluxbox first too :D
[02:11] <Unit193> You need a ppa for natty
[02:11] <wrst> Unit193: this is oneiric
[02:11] <binarymutant> xdm has been good to me
[02:11] <Unit193> wrst: As long as he got a greeter with it
[02:12] <binarymutant> xdm or startx
[02:12] <wrst> hmm well i forgot good ol ubuntu isn't like arch you install something and it starts up all the time...
[02:12] <binarymutant> brb oneiric just got done
[02:13] <binarymutant> Xorg needs to bring ctrl+alt+backspace back
[02:13] <wrst> yes
[02:18] <binarymutant> ...geeze I though it was done
[02:22] <wrst> i'm reinstalling...
[02:24] <binarymutant> that mini install?
[02:25] <wrst> yeah ssh didn't work for somereason and I couldn't access anything
[02:33] <binarymutant> linux3.0!
[02:35] <wrst> been running it for well a long time now :P
[02:36] <wrst> looks like since aug 30 :)
[02:36] <binarymutant> from your uptime?
[02:37] <wrst> no just looked at the packages
[02:37] <wrst> i'm on a laptop
[02:37] <wrst> so a 3 day uptime is a lot
[02:37] <wrst> my server runs ubuntu
[02:40] <binarymutant> did you use the virtual package? ubuntu-server
[02:40] <binarymutant> I wondered what was on it
[02:40] <wrst> no i just used a straight up ubuntu server install
[02:41] <wrst> i started way back at 9.04 i think and am running 11.04 on this box
[02:41] <wrst> well binarymutant i'm going to check out for the night i will catch you tomorrow
[02:42] <binarymutant> later
[06:24] <binarymutant> I get knocked off a lot..
[12:59] <xpistos> Morning
[13:09] <wrst> morning xpistos
[13:09]  * wrst just used an ssh tunnel for the first time... wow cool beans
[13:18] <xpistos> me likey
[13:18] <wrst> yes very cool and just a longer ping time no real loss in speed I will certainly be doing this when I travel
[15:53] <pace_t_zulu> hey guys
[15:54] <pace_t_zulu> i missed binarymutant last night
[15:54] <pace_t_zulu> awesome to see him re-emerge though
[15:54] <wrst> yeah seems to be doing well
[15:54] <wrst> pace_t_zulu:  how are you doing?
[15:56] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: great
[15:56] <pace_t_zulu> wrst:  you?
[15:57] <wrst> doing well pace_t_zulu, just got a little cyberanger and am brwosing the web via an ssh tunnel
[15:57] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: ?
[15:58] <pace_t_zulu> i didn't know that cyberanger was contagious ;)
[15:58] <wrst> got a little security nutso as our friend cyberanger always is :)
[15:58] <wrst> wanted to check it out for using public wifi and what not
[15:58] <pace_t_zulu> oh
[15:58] <pace_t_zulu> using a mac?
[15:58] <pace_t_zulu> i've been tunneling on public wifi for months
[15:59] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: actually tunneling on public wifi is the original reason for my cloud deployment
[15:59] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: using a mac ... u should check out 'SideStep' and 'Tunnelblick'
[16:00] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: here at work i'm doing it rather rough have putty connected to my server and have firefox setup to use it for a proxy
[16:00] <wrst> on my linux machine i should be able to tunnel everything if i'm not mistaken
[16:00]  * wrst is using winders at work
[16:01] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: yea
[16:01] <wrst> i don't need it at work but just had a moment to try it out
[16:36] <pace_t_zulu> reboot
[18:24] <vychune> o/
[18:29] <cyberanger> wrst: ssh tunnels are nice
[18:30] <Unit193> Nice? They are very handy
[18:30] <Unit193> cyberanger: Good afternoon!
[18:30] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: should I alert the CDC, put myself in a querentine? didn't know I was contagious
[18:31]  * cyberanger wonders if that's really a bad thing (well, bad for microsoft I suppose)
[18:31] <cyberanger> Unit193: afternoon
[18:32] <wrst> cyberanger: yes they are
[18:32] <wrst> hand and nice
[19:05] <vychune> as usual nobody home
[19:20]  * wrst is in the hosue
[19:20] <vychune> wrst possible guy to be in here lol
[19:20] <vychune> sup dude
[19:21] <wrst> not much vychune how are you?
[19:21] <vychune> good
[19:21] <vychune> making use of coud9 1de
[19:21] <vychune> *cloud
[19:25] <cyberanger> vychune: that's fine with me, the coffee here tastes better ;-)
[19:25]  * cyberanger spits it out and grabs a Dr. Pepper anyhow (hot mud, yuck)
[19:25] <vychune> cyberanger: you lost me
[19:26] <cyberanger> vychune: as usual nobody home (I'm at a coffee shop)
[19:26] <vychune> oh
[19:26] <vychune> smh
[19:26] <wrst> yeah and actually i'm at work vychune :P
[19:26]  * Unit193 is also at home
[19:26] <vychune> anybody know php?
[19:26] <wrst> never met them
[19:27] <cyberanger> wrst: php, eh .....
[19:27]  * vychune is at the neighbor's because of having no service at home
[19:27] <cyberanger> not well enough
[19:27] <wrst> hello Brian-D missed your appearance!
[19:27] <wrst> vychune: i know enough to know when I mess something up I have to talk with someone that knows something :)
[19:27] <vychune> lol
[19:28] <Brian-D> vychune: not anyone that would admit to it.
[19:28] <Brian-D> wrst: greetings
[19:29] <vychune> Brian-D: first of all, nice to meet you. second, ok
[19:29] <wrst> yes nice to meet you Brian-D
[19:30]  * Unit193 the random weirdo says hello
[19:30] <wrst> Unit193: i think we are all random weirdos here
[19:33] <vychune> lol
[19:33]  * vychune no longer understands the michael jackson case
[19:34] <cyberanger> vychune: a Judge and district attonery lost an idol, don't want to believe he was crazy, an idiot or sucidial
[19:35] <vychune> i get that part but the arguements make no sense to me
[19:35] <cyberanger> the doc did it or not, but this trial won't answer it anymore
[19:36]  * Unit193 doesn't care enough
[19:36] <vychune> Unit193: dang lol
[19:38]  * cyberanger agrees with Unit193
[19:38]  * cyberanger knows of people who could moonwalk better, Apollo style
[22:09] <wrst> wb binarymutant
[22:10] <binarymutant> tyty
[22:52] <binarymutant> wow Wellsville is horrible, I miss Knoxville
[22:53] <binarymutant> just spent close to $3 on a 2liter
[22:53] <Unit193> POP? Brandname?
[22:53] <binarymutant> RC Cola !
[22:53] <binarymutant> the only store in town is such a rip off
[22:54] <Unit193> That's not right... We get walmart for less than 80
[22:54] <binarymutant> Closest walmart is pretty far. I'm not used to having to make a "trip" out of going to Walmart yet
[22:55] <Unit193> No kidding, we could walk to it here (And I have, just isn't easy to take stuff back)
[22:56] <binarymutant> yeah city life is awesome, country life is expensive
[22:58] <Unit193> We used to live in the country and our cousins really live in the country!
[22:58] <binarymutant> I'm jealous of Maryville right now (never thought I'd say that)
[22:58] <Unit193> I can't comment on that part :P
[23:02] <binarymutant> having cable is awesome though :D
[23:05] <Unit193> They are stuck on bad dialup because nothing else will get to them except sat (Very costly)
[23:05] <binarymutant> wifimaxx is horrid
[23:06] <binarymutant> I'm surprised Charter/Comcast comes out here
[23:06] <binarymutant> I think dialup is probably better than wifimax
[23:07] <binarymutant> no caps
[23:07] <Unit193> They are at the end of the line and have phone issues at times ;P
[23:07] <binarymutant> ah that sucks
[23:08] <Unit193> I've never used wifimaxx. We have RoadRunner/TWC now, it's nice
[23:09] <binarymutant> Roadrunner = Comcast?
[23:09] <Unit193> I love my shell account, ssh, and vnc. No, but it's cable
[23:09] <binarymutant> wifimaxx is the wifi satellite, caps and horrid speeds
[23:10] <binarymutant> is your shell free?
[23:10] <Unit193> Yep
[23:10] <Unit193> (I use irssi from home though)
[23:11] <binarymutant> who provides? I was looking for a shell acct the other day
[23:11] <binarymutant> roadrunner is owned by time warner/comcast/charter/etc.
[23:11] <Unit193> #Ninthfloor(.org)
[23:11] <binarymutant> gah they own everything
[23:12] <binarymutant> I'll look them up
[23:12] <Unit193> RR has no caps, good speed, and don't have bad service
[23:14] <Unit193> Not saying they're the best one out there, but it's great for my use
[23:14] <binarymutant> can you ssh tunnel with ninthfloor?
[23:15] <Unit193> Don't think so
[23:16] <binarymutant> aw
[23:17] <Unit193> Undesired activity: Use of the system as a transparent proxy.
[23:17] <binarymutant> ya, most are like that
[23:17] <Unit193> [2011-09-28] Good news! Your web pages (the stuff in your ~/public_html) are now accessible at a shorter address (the old one still works): http://<username>.ninth.su/
[23:18] <Unit193> You can see the motd on the website as well as uptime stats (Just added because I said something about uptimed)
[23:20] <Unit193> Although, I feel like I should be somewhere right now...
[23:20] <binarymutant> wacthing aots?
[23:46] <cyberanger> binarymutant: jealous of maryville?
[23:46] <binarymutant> yes with their walmarts and cheaper prices
[23:47] <cyberanger> didn't know you'd lived there
[23:47] <Unit193> Well, I was kind of supposed to be somewhere, but it was too late :P
[23:47] <binarymutant> just moved a week ago into Wellsville
[23:49] <cyberanger> target is closer
[23:49] <cyberanger> your in my neck of the woods there (well, my folks neck of the woods, more accurately)
[23:53] <cyberanger> matter of fact, drive through it 336 to get on 411 to roads down here
[23:53] <cyberanger> yeah, talking 10 miles to walmart, give or take where you are and your route
[23:54] <cyberanger> binarymutant: just plan for issues with charter
[23:54] <cyberanger> they're good, but when there's an issue, it's an issue
[23:55] <cyberanger> and middle of nowhere like that, yeah
[23:55] <binarymutant> haven't had one yet
[23:56] <binarymutant> but any internet is better than driving around looking for open wifi :D
[23:56] <cyberanger> true
[23:57] <cyberanger> but walking to the library is cheap