=== chrispluns is now known as binarymutant [00:35] I think i've reinstalled ubuntu like 5 times already [00:35] right now without sound :/ [00:37] /set nick binarymutant :P [00:38] You know what's going wrong? [00:42] saved it, ty [00:43] need to set up alsa I think [00:44] I like wrst's idea to redirect all questions to cyberanger ;) [00:52] ha ha [00:53] But he's busy nowadays [00:54] binarymutant: what's been up with your ubuntu troubles? [00:56] You did it again... [00:58] hmm i seem to run everyone off [00:58] Well, I blame everything on you it seems :D [00:59] works for me [00:59] whatever it takes Unit193 :) [00:59] hello chaps [01:00] Hello pace_t_zulu and welcome back binarymutant [01:00] okay, my user isn't in the sound group or something [01:01] binarymutant: how did that happen? [01:01] but easy enought to fix at least [01:01] wrst: minimal install [01:01] binarymutant: fuck yea [01:01] binarymutant: +1000 [01:01] :D [01:02] ahh that makes since binarymutant [01:02] i have to do all that stuff in arch but not used to that in ubuntu [01:03] howdy pace_t_zulu [01:04] I've done it for openbox [01:07] i've never done a minimal install [01:08] it's been a pain :D [01:09] * wrst downloads the mini.iso to see how it works [01:10] brb [01:16] yay ftw [01:17] mini install only saved me ~300Mb [01:18] yeah binarymutant i've found with arch i don't save a lot of HDD space but i get a lot of speed because I have so few daemons and what not running and going [01:19] hopefully I get that speed factor then because right now I feel like it was a waste of time [01:19] although I do have my custom DE and everything on 1.4Gb [01:20] couldn't setup network-manager by myself though, so went with wicd [01:23] um... does webkit not unicode enabled? or do I just not have the fonts installed [01:31] binarymutant: wb :) [01:32] heh :D [01:32] flash is leaving some nasty artifacts in my terminals [01:33] binarymutant: have no clue i am just happy when flash works... [01:35] it's working, just not as expected [01:38] wrst: are you using oneiric? should I dist-upgrade to it or nay? [01:38] binarymutant: i'm using arch, i have oneric isntalled [01:39] but oneriric seems pretty good [01:40] upgrading to it [01:40] fingers crossed [01:40] binarymutant: i got tired of depending on upgrades every six months [01:41] debian unstable is nice, and has the best package manager :D [01:41] nah using arch binarymutant, debians packages still lag behind compared to arch :) [01:41] very true [01:42] well i don't know about unstable, but testing anyway [01:42] pacman is too weird for me though. `pacman -yyyK` strange options [01:44] debian unstable still lags behind arch pkg though [01:50] binarymutant: its not that bad and I use package kit for a lot of things anyway on gnome [01:51] what's package kit? [01:51] but pretty much -Syu syncs and updates -S install -R remove and -Rd remove and remove dependencies [01:51] gui package manager [01:51] ah [01:51] i use gnome package kit [01:53] binarymutant: everything you wanted, or didn't want to know:https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman_Rosetta [01:55] just saying, their options aren't in english :P [01:56] no but it works really fast :) [01:56] binarymutant: i'm trying an ubuntu minimal install in a VM [01:57] it's all right, I think the mini is ~700Mb [01:57] after getting things isntalled binarymutant? [01:58] uh no, ~700Mb with absolutly the bare minimal [01:58] like apt [01:58] ok it seems to have hung up on me [01:58] i liked the iso was only 28MB :) [01:59] yeah the iso was super small [01:59] nope installing grub [01:59] I wanna go back to lilo but don't want to do anything that will mess up my new installation [02:01] well this seems to be a fail [02:01] ? where at? [02:01] the minimal isntall [02:01] no login prompt [02:02] ?? [02:02] just boots a while then black screen [02:02] ctrl+alt+f1 [02:03] yeah not for sure how to do that in Vbox [02:03] can't remember how to pass that in virtual box, been too long [02:04] ahh host+f1 [02:08] that work? [02:09] yep [02:09] cool, now you have a blinking cursor :D [02:10] yep and a crazy xorg after installing fluxbox and lightdm :) [02:10] lightdm didn't work fer me :/ [02:11] but yeah I went to fluxbox first too :D [02:11] You need a ppa for natty [02:11] Unit193: this is oneiric [02:11] xdm has been good to me [02:11] wrst: As long as he got a greeter with it [02:12] xdm or startx [02:12] hmm well i forgot good ol ubuntu isn't like arch you install something and it starts up all the time... [02:12] brb oneiric just got done [02:13] Xorg needs to bring ctrl+alt+backspace back [02:13] yes [02:18] ...geeze I though it was done [02:22] i'm reinstalling... [02:24] that mini install? [02:25] yeah ssh didn't work for somereason and I couldn't access anything [02:33] linux3.0! [02:35] been running it for well a long time now :P [02:36] looks like since aug 30 :) [02:36] from your uptime? [02:37] no just looked at the packages [02:37] i'm on a laptop [02:37] so a 3 day uptime is a lot [02:37] my server runs ubuntu [02:40] did you use the virtual package? ubuntu-server [02:40] I wondered what was on it [02:40] no i just used a straight up ubuntu server install [02:41] i started way back at 9.04 i think and am running 11.04 on this box [02:41] well binarymutant i'm going to check out for the night i will catch you tomorrow [02:42] later [06:24] I get knocked off a lot.. [12:59] Morning [13:09] morning xpistos [13:09] * wrst just used an ssh tunnel for the first time... wow cool beans [13:18] me likey [13:18] yes very cool and just a longer ping time no real loss in speed I will certainly be doing this when I travel [15:53] hey guys [15:54] i missed binarymutant last night [15:54] awesome to see him re-emerge though [15:54] yeah seems to be doing well [15:54] pace_t_zulu: how are you doing? [15:56] wrst: great [15:56] wrst: you? [15:57] doing well pace_t_zulu, just got a little cyberanger and am brwosing the web via an ssh tunnel [15:57] wrst: ? [15:58] i didn't know that cyberanger was contagious ;) [15:58] got a little security nutso as our friend cyberanger always is :) [15:58] wanted to check it out for using public wifi and what not [15:58] oh [15:58] using a mac? [15:58] i've been tunneling on public wifi for months [15:59] wrst: actually tunneling on public wifi is the original reason for my cloud deployment [15:59] wrst: using a mac ... u should check out 'SideStep' and 'Tunnelblick' [16:00] pace_t_zulu: here at work i'm doing it rather rough have putty connected to my server and have firefox setup to use it for a proxy [16:00] on my linux machine i should be able to tunnel everything if i'm not mistaken [16:00] * wrst is using winders at work [16:01] wrst: yea [16:01] i don't need it at work but just had a moment to try it out [16:36] reboot [18:24] o/ [18:29] wrst: ssh tunnels are nice [18:30] Nice? They are very handy [18:30] cyberanger: Good afternoon! [18:30] pace_t_zulu: should I alert the CDC, put myself in a querentine? didn't know I was contagious [18:31] * cyberanger wonders if that's really a bad thing (well, bad for microsoft I suppose) [18:31] Unit193: afternoon [18:32] cyberanger: yes they are [18:32] hand and nice [19:05] as usual nobody home [19:20] * wrst is in the hosue [19:20] wrst possible guy to be in here lol [19:20] sup dude [19:21] not much vychune how are you? [19:21] good [19:21] making use of coud9 1de [19:21] *cloud [19:25] vychune: that's fine with me, the coffee here tastes better ;-) [19:25] * cyberanger spits it out and grabs a Dr. Pepper anyhow (hot mud, yuck) [19:25] cyberanger: you lost me [19:26] vychune: as usual nobody home (I'm at a coffee shop) [19:26] oh [19:26] smh [19:26] yeah and actually i'm at work vychune :P [19:26] * Unit193 is also at home [19:26] anybody know php? [19:26] never met them [19:27] wrst: php, eh ..... [19:27] * vychune is at the neighbor's because of having no service at home [19:27] not well enough [19:27] hello Brian-D missed your appearance! [19:27] vychune: i know enough to know when I mess something up I have to talk with someone that knows something :) [19:27] lol [19:28] vychune: not anyone that would admit to it. [19:28] wrst: greetings [19:29] Brian-D: first of all, nice to meet you. second, ok [19:29] yes nice to meet you Brian-D [19:30] * Unit193 the random weirdo says hello [19:30] Unit193: i think we are all random weirdos here [19:33] lol [19:33] * vychune no longer understands the michael jackson case [19:34] vychune: a Judge and district attonery lost an idol, don't want to believe he was crazy, an idiot or sucidial [19:35] i get that part but the arguements make no sense to me [19:35] the doc did it or not, but this trial won't answer it anymore [19:36] * Unit193 doesn't care enough [19:36] Unit193: dang lol [19:38] * cyberanger agrees with Unit193 [19:38] * cyberanger knows of people who could moonwalk better, Apollo style [22:09] wb binarymutant [22:10] tyty [22:52] wow Wellsville is horrible, I miss Knoxville [22:53] just spent close to $3 on a 2liter [22:53] POP? Brandname? [22:53] RC Cola ! [22:53] the only store in town is such a rip off [22:54] That's not right... We get walmart for less than 80 [22:54] Closest walmart is pretty far. I'm not used to having to make a "trip" out of going to Walmart yet [22:55] No kidding, we could walk to it here (And I have, just isn't easy to take stuff back) [22:56] yeah city life is awesome, country life is expensive [22:58] We used to live in the country and our cousins really live in the country! [22:58] I'm jealous of Maryville right now (never thought I'd say that) [22:58] I can't comment on that part :P [23:02] having cable is awesome though :D [23:05] They are stuck on bad dialup because nothing else will get to them except sat (Very costly) [23:05] wifimaxx is horrid [23:06] I'm surprised Charter/Comcast comes out here [23:06] I think dialup is probably better than wifimax [23:07] no caps [23:07] They are at the end of the line and have phone issues at times ;P [23:07] ah that sucks [23:08] I've never used wifimaxx. We have RoadRunner/TWC now, it's nice [23:09] Roadrunner = Comcast? [23:09] I love my shell account, ssh, and vnc. No, but it's cable [23:09] wifimaxx is the wifi satellite, caps and horrid speeds [23:10] is your shell free? [23:10] Yep [23:10] (I use irssi from home though) [23:11] who provides? I was looking for a shell acct the other day [23:11] roadrunner is owned by time warner/comcast/charter/etc. [23:11] #Ninthfloor(.org) [23:11] gah they own everything [23:12] I'll look them up [23:12] RR has no caps, good speed, and don't have bad service [23:14] Not saying they're the best one out there, but it's great for my use [23:14] can you ssh tunnel with ninthfloor? [23:15] Don't think so [23:16] aw [23:17] Undesired activity: Use of the system as a transparent proxy. [23:17] ya, most are like that [23:17] [2011-09-28] Good news! Your web pages (the stuff in your ~/public_html) are now accessible at a shorter address (the old one still works): http://.ninth.su/ [23:18] You can see the motd on the website as well as uptime stats (Just added because I said something about uptimed) [23:20] Although, I feel like I should be somewhere right now... [23:20] wacthing aots? [23:46] binarymutant: jealous of maryville? [23:46] yes with their walmarts and cheaper prices [23:47] didn't know you'd lived there [23:47] Well, I was kind of supposed to be somewhere, but it was too late :P [23:47] just moved a week ago into Wellsville [23:49] target is closer [23:49] your in my neck of the woods there (well, my folks neck of the woods, more accurately) [23:53] matter of fact, drive through it 336 to get on 411 to roads down here [23:53] yeah, talking 10 miles to walmart, give or take where you are and your route [23:54] binarymutant: just plan for issues with charter [23:54] they're good, but when there's an issue, it's an issue [23:55] and middle of nowhere like that, yeah [23:55] haven't had one yet [23:56] but any internet is better than driving around looking for open wifi :D [23:56] true [23:57] but walking to the library is cheap