[00:00] <roooot> tryed both 32 - 64
[00:00] <nemo> so. yeah. indicator-applet-appmenu - 100% CPU.  looking for cluse online, but don't see anything yet.
[00:00] <smw> roooot, don't use unity
[00:00] <nemo> clues
[00:00] <Promille> d
[00:00] <roooot> tryed ubuntu classic
[00:00] <ZeloZelos> cant you have all those in one install,,,add xfce and plasma or whatever to the normal dist?
[00:00] <roooot> seemed nice
[00:00] <aeon-ltd> ZeloZelos: yes
[00:00] <roooot> but now imma try to just install xubuntu
[00:00] <roooot> i know my cpu load was like 0.90
[00:00] <zykotick9> ZeloZelos, you are correct - doesn't matter what you start with, you can install whatever you want
[00:00] <roooot> on ubuntu
[00:01] <aeon-ltd> under 1 means nothing hanged
[00:01] <soreau> nemo: What version of ubuntu?
[00:01] <nemo> Natty
[00:01] <zykotick9> roooot, load less then 1 means your CPU wasn't even maxed... just saying.
[00:01] <nemo> soreau: it's my mom's machine. she was complaining of horrible performance
[00:01] <aeon-ltd> anything under 1 means it was processed with no wait for cpu usage
[00:01] <ZeloZelos> aeon-ltd, zykotick9 will they play nicely together? well not "together" but can exist along each other w no issues?
[00:01] <roooot> so is cpu usage 5% good?
[00:02] <roooot> im guessing
[00:02] <zykotick9> ZeloZelos, sure just choose which you want to boot into using GDM/KDM/etc.
[00:02] <soreau> nemo: Using unity?
[00:02] <aeon-ltd> ZeloZelos: yes because you don't use 2 at the same time, for DEs you only use one session at a time
[00:02] <nemo> soreau: I noticed a lot of oom kills, but couldn't find a reason.  could be related to the fact that every time that applet is started it goes to 100%
[00:02] <nemo> soreau: no. gnome classic. she is not at all a fan of Unity
[00:02] <nemo> finds it horribly confusing
[00:02] <zykotick9> roooot, cpu % is NOT the same as load
[00:02] <soreau> nemo: (is is)
[00:02] <soreau> nemo: (it is)
[00:02] <roooot> whats the cmd for load again sudo top?
[00:02] <SIFTU> roooot: uptime or top
[00:02] <zykotick9> roooot, just "top" no sudo required
[00:02] <nemo> soreau: hm. it just froze up on her again
[00:03] <soreau> nemo: Doesn't seem to pose an immediate problem here on natty+classic gnome
[00:03] <soreau> nemo: Does it make a difference what wm is running?
[00:03] <soreau> nemo: (I'm using compiz master here)
[00:03] <nemo> soreau: she's using classic + compiz.  don't know if window manager is a factor yet
[00:03] <smw> nemo, my desktop is not a netbook :-P
[00:03] <nemo> I'm trying to do this remotely, which is rather difficult
[00:04] <nemo> smw: huh?
[00:04] <smw> nemo, die unity die
[00:04] <nemo> oh...
[00:04] <nemo> soreau: I'm asking her to log into her 2nd account to see if it has the same behaviour
[00:04] <roooot> says
[00:04] <roooot> load average is
[00:04] <roooot> 0.00
[00:04] <roooot> :o
[00:04] <soreau> nemo: Does it work fine at startup and then use more resources as time goes on?
[00:04] <FloodBot1> roooot: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:04] <zykotick9> smw, honestly - if you don't want Unity you should seek out another distro... just saying.
[00:04] <aeon-ltd> roooot: the others?
[00:05] <nemo> soreau: in terms of memory usage, I haven't tracked down the leak yet. but indicator-applet-appmenu will start out at 0% but climb very rapidly to 100% of CPU
[00:05] <smw> zykotick9, I plan to do that. I have been using ubuntu for years and I have been recently playing with other distros.
[00:05] <soreau> nemo: Is it nvidia?
[00:05] <roooot> now its between like 0.06 but its the first 1 is 0.05. 0/09, 0.23
[00:05] <nemo> soreau: I suspect the freezes she is experiencing are the laptop overheating
[00:05] <smw> zykotick9, debian wheezy and pcbsd are at the top of the list
[00:05] <ZeloZelos> someone else was in here complaining about unity..its nice for what it is and what it does
[00:05] <smw> zykotick9, perhaps back to arch
[00:06] <soreau> nemo: What graphics card is it?
[00:06] <roooot> now its like 0.02, 0.07, 0.21 aeon
[00:06] <roooot> good i guess?
[00:06] <nemo> soreau: I'm still waiting for her machine to reboot
[00:06] <nemo> soreau: then she has to setup an ssh tunnel for me :)
[00:06] <soreau> nemo: You don't know what graphics card she has?
[00:07] <nemo> soreau: I could tell you more precisely once I'm connected back to it.  she is 5000 km away
[00:07] <aeon-ltd> roooot: yes
[00:07] <nemo> soreau: ok. indicator-applet-appmenu appears to only go wild in her account. not her boyriend's
[00:08] <nemo> soreau: wondering if I should just blow away her entire gnome profile
[00:08] <soreau> nemo: Tell her to get a new bf. Problem solved.
[00:08] <nemo> soreau: um. his account is fine :-p
[00:08] <soreau> nemo: But then she could just take over her bf's working account and get rid of him in the process. Kill two birds with one stone
[00:09] <TrueColors> h2ph * asn-generic/* ... destination diretory /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 doesn't exist or isnt' a directory
[00:09] <kisuke> ok is anyone familiar with cron enough to help me set upa an hourly script?
[00:09] <soreau> nemo: (I'm just trolling you until you tell me What Graphics Card The Machine Has...!)
[00:09] <TrueColors> it only has python inside /usr/local/lib
[00:10] <nemo> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M880G [Mobility Radeon HD 4200]
[00:10] <soreau> nemo: I find it hard to believe you don't know if it's intel, radeon or nvidia off the top of your head
[00:10] <nemo> ...
[00:10] <nemo> I don't
[00:10] <nemo> but I just pasted it
[00:10] <soreau> k
[00:10] <nemo> and it is running fglrx
[00:10] <soreau> nemo: Using fglrx or radeon driver?
[00:10] <soreau> k
[00:10] <nemo> as noted, indicator-applet-appmenu only seems to run wild on her side
[00:10] <nemo> I am really considering wiping all her gnome settings
[00:11] <soreau> nemo: Get rid of fglrx first and foremost. (possibly after confirming metacity doesn't exhibit the issue)
[00:11] <nemo> soreau: I tried attaching ltrace -S but it wasn't too informative
[00:11] <soreau> nemo: You're not listening
[00:11] <nemo> soreau: why would compiz have anything to do w/ indicator-applet-appmenu ?
[00:11] <soreau> nemo: Why would you ask for support here if you know better?
[00:11]  * soreau finds something more productive to do
[00:11] <nemo> and for that matter, why would symptoms be different on two otherwise identical desktops
[00:12] <nemo> soreau: I'm just looking for justification before doing something drastic
[00:12] <soreau> nemo: Uninstalling fglrx is certainly not drastic on natty unless someone installed it from the AMD website
[00:13] <kisuke> ok is anyone familiar with (ana)cron enough to help me figure out how to set up an hourly script?
[00:13] <nemo> ok. 2 identical desktops. both using fglrx. both using compiz. one has an applet that is sucking up 100% of CPU, the other doens't, and your recommendation is "get rid of 3D acceleration"
[00:13] <nemo> ok...
[00:13] <soreau> nemo: I suggest 1) Try metacity and see how that fares 2) If it's ok, remove fglrx and use the radeon driver 3) If that's going well, try installing xorg-edgers and/or a newer kernel since this will provide better/latest radeon driver bits
[00:13] <SIFTU> kisuke: just ask what you are trying to do
[00:14] <soreau> nemo: If 1) has no effect, and another user is fine, create a new user and delete the problematic one
[00:14] <kisuke> SIFTU: play acouple of rounds of kmem russian roulette on an hourly basis
[00:15] <kisuke> SIFTU: got the script set, just setting up the cron job is whats stymingh me.
[00:15] <nemo> soreau: I wonder if it is related to:
[00:15] <nemo> Unable to register the object to DBus: An object is already exported for the interface com.canonical.AppMenu.Registrar at /com/canonical/AppMenu/Registrar
[00:15] <soreau> nemo: And FYI, I never said "get rid of 3D acceleration", I said get rid of fglrx. The open radeon driver handles acceleration fine
[00:15] <nemo> in the log.
[00:15] <soreau> nemo: That looks like a typical dbus warning if I were to guess
[00:15]  * nemo checks the log on other account
[00:15] <SIFTU> kisuke: sigh ok.. sudo crontab -e (as you probably need root to overwrite memory like that)
[00:16] <user7> [peq
[00:16] <SIFTU> kisuke: 0 * * * * /full/path/to/script
[00:16] <user7> fuck yea
[00:16] <soreau> nemo: Many times, proprietary drivers can cause memory leaks in unlikely places
[00:16] <nemo> soreau: actually, no log on the functioning account. only the broken one
[00:16] <user7> Джигурда)
[00:16] <user7> холи щеет
[00:16] <zykotick9> !ru | user7
[00:16] <soreau> nemo: Well I think you should just figure this out on your own since you obviously know better
[00:16] <kisuke> SIFTU: to get to kmem yeah. and thank you. when my PC repair rteacher said make me an odd problem, i dont think trhis is what he had in mind
[00:17] <SIFTU> kisuke: good luck with your now unstable computer :)
[00:17] <kisuke> SIFTU: thats the idea, again thanks for the help,
[00:19] <nemo> soreau: it seems like a rather tenuous thread you are hanging this on is all...  I'm open to trying the radeon driver. behaviour may have improved
[00:19] <nemo> I just don't see how one proprietary driver could cause *one* app in *one* profile to screw up.
[00:19] <soreau> nemo: Have you even tried 1) yet?
[00:20] <nemo> you have any idea how hard it is to explain stuff to your mom when she's 5000 km away?
[00:20] <nemo> just hang on. but no.
[00:20] <soreau> nemo: No, I don't know your mom. But after that, try !resetpanel
[00:21] <soreau> nemo: I figured you'd already tried all the basics
[00:21] <SIFTU> nemo: I support my mums PC 15000kms away.. wouldnt make any difference if it was 1 km away
[00:22] <soreau> SIFTU: I was thinking 1ft
[00:22] <OerHeks> what app is causing problems on different accounts ?
[00:22] <SIFTU> soreau: well that would be easy.. move over mom
[00:22] <soreau> OerHeks: That's a generic question
[00:23] <soreau> SIFTU: Yea but if you had to guide her
[00:23] <SIFTU> soreau: true
[00:23] <nemo> last message in the log before kernel crash was CE: hpet increasing min_delta_ns
[00:24] <jeremy77> hi I have finally kicked microsoft off my pc and have 25 minits left on my transfer of all my backup files from my storage drive which is NTFS and want to make this storage drive into a linux native storage due to permissions problems and slow transfer rates so can some one suggest what kind of format to use. it will also be a shared on a network too a windows pc
[00:24] <nemo> s/kernel crash/system lockup/ I don't actually know if it was a kernel crash, although she says magic sysrq did not work
[00:24] <SIFTU> nemo: google+ now has screensharing in the hangout too
[00:24] <SIFTU> jeremy77: just use ext4 which is pretty much default now
[00:25] <qin> jeremy77: If you use ftp or web, then file-system do not matter.
[00:26] <jeremy77> will a windows pc on my home network be able to read the drive if ext4  ? thanks
[00:27] <qin> jeremy77: uhm? windows do not support ext4 too well, how do you want to share files?
[00:27] <SIFTU> jeremy77: no natively, you might be able to get a driver for it.. but you can share it via samba as a windows network share
[00:27] <d1miguel> whats up guys? i'm having a problem with my Windows 7 x64 guest on Ubuntu 11.04 and i wanted to see if any of you can give me some insight, i'm stumped
[00:28] <zykotick9> d1miguel, #vbox if you're using virtualbox
[00:28] <d1miguel> okay ty!
[00:28] <nemo> soreau: FWIW, panel reset was a good suggestion. indicator-applet-appmenu cpu usage seems to be completely resolved
[00:29] <soreau> nemo: cool
[00:29] <nemo> soreau: my mom had enjoyed customising her side. had done quite a lot to the panels, although why that would muck it up... I hae no clue
[00:29] <jeremy77> SIFTU,  I will share it via samba as windows network share cause I think it will be easiest and was not sure if windows would be confused that it is ext4
[00:29] <nemo> she had it sliding in and out, had replaced the wider 3 part menu with the small button, removed the bottom panel, etc... all in interest of saving space. perhaps she removed something that caused it to freak out
[00:29] <SIFTU> jeremy77: windows wont see the underlying filesystem at all.. it could be anything.. samba handles all that
[00:29] <soreau> the world may never know
[00:31] <jeremy77> SIFTU,  that is perfect. thanks for the info
[00:31] <subcool> what is wish
[00:31] <aenima6> hi i have a quick networking issue, linux noob here
[00:31] <subcool> !ubottu wish
[00:32] <subcool> ! wish
[00:32] <d1miguel> whats ubuntu general chat?
[00:32] <subcool> ugh..
[00:32] <SIFTU> aenima6: ask away
[00:32] <Pici> d1miguel: #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:32] <tiago_> does anyone know how to backup your whole system to a external hard drive with command line?
[00:32] <subcool> could someone tell me about this program Wish?! -its using 30% of my Cpu
[00:32] <subcool> tiago_, its in the guide..
[00:33] <SIFTU> tiago_: http://www.backuphowto.info/linux-backup-hard-disk-clone-dd
[00:33] <tiago_> thanks !!
[00:33] <aenima6> thanks, its xbmc live related, hope thats ok, but i dont think its specific to that. anyways when i use wired connection, my internet and smb network work fine, go to wireless, and my smb network works, but no internet working in xbmc
[00:34] <aenima6> so i added a 10 second delay to xbmc startup, then i get internet connection, but i cant connect to my smb
[00:35] <subcool> good old xbmc. Hey aenima6 i was looking into it. Can i host videos and watch them off my wii or soething? Or does the display have to be attached to the computer
[00:35] <zloba> \quit
[00:35] <nemo> soreau: quick question. she was wondering why she doesn't see network management under her account. can nm-applet only be active on one side at a time?
[00:36] <aenima6> subcool im running it off a htpc
[00:37] <Phr3d13> how would i uninstall something that was installed via this command - sudo dpkg --force-architecture -i mmc_1.7.0_i386.deb
[00:38] <nemo> hm. googling, I find bugs on that subject
[00:38] <Phr3d13> i tried sudo dpkg -r mmc_1.7.0_i386.deb, but all it does is bring up the software center saying it can't install it because of wrong architecture
[00:39] <subcool> aenima6, whats an htpc?
[00:39] <aenima6> subcool, home theater pc
[00:40] <subcool> Phr3d13, what about apt-get remove blah.deb? - lol i know urs is ... more knowledgeable though
[00:40] <soreau> nemo: I'm not sure how NetworkManager/nm-applet works for multiple accounts. Make sure both are running though, and you have notification area and/or indicator applet added to the panel
[00:40] <subcool> aenima6,whats the diference?
[00:40] <soreau> (I forget in which nm-applet displays)
[00:40] <subcool> aenima6, didnt really answer my question at all now that i think about it..
[00:40] <Phr3d13> didn't use apt-get to get it
[00:40] <rectec794613> do you guys support oneiric users?
[00:41] <aenima6> subcool, im running a small linux build just to watch my networked media on my bedroom tv
[00:41] <subcool> Phr3d13, idk-
[00:41] <Phr3d13> !oneric
[00:41] <aenima6> subcool, i dont think would help a wii
[00:41] <tiago_> is there any disadvantage to creating an image of the filesystem and saving it, instead of just backing up everything? and how much time would a fs of 500G take to create?
[00:41] <rectec794613> do you guys support oneiric users?
[00:41] <nemo> soreau: tried running nm-applet from 2nd account and it complained that it was already running
[00:41] <Pici> rectec794613: No, thats what #ubuntu+1 is for.
[00:41] <Phr3d13> !oneric | rectec794613
[00:41] <SIFTU> tiago_: a long time.. no disadvantage in creating an image.. actually there are advantages are you can compress it
[00:42] <nemo> soreau: there seem to be a few bugs on the subject, and some workarounds involving kills -  I suggested mom just put up with it for now
[00:42] <subcool> aenima6, thers the answer. kinda- SO.. the media is hosted off ur htpc, - i guess my questions is, can you watch ur media via ethernet?
[00:42] <lovre__> hi all
[00:42] <rectec794613> Pici: k thanks
[00:42] <tiago_> SIFTU: what order of compression?
[00:42] <subcool> aenima6, iphone- android...
[00:42] <SIFTU> tiago_: depends on your data
[00:42] <lovre__> sorry for OT, but does someone have Samsung SGH-E250 or similar phone? I need some help...
[00:42] <soreau> nemo: FWIW, I chmod -x both and just use scripts to handle my networking setups
[00:42] <tiago_> ok thanks !
[00:42] <Trollymctroll> I farted and pooped my pants
[00:43] <aenima6> subcool, my media is stored on a pc on my network, i stream to my htpc,but yeah i can also stream to my android phone
[00:43] <soreau> ! ops | Trollymctroll
[00:43] <|GoLTaR|> i try to extraxt file , but i goot this error :/ /usr/bin/touch: 1: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting ")") can somebady help me? o.O
[00:43] <soreau> |GoLTaR|: What command gives you that output?
[00:44] <subcool> aenima6, ok we are getting somehwere. Im trying to run xbmc but- im running into issue have issue with other stuff, and wondering if i waste my time.
[00:44] <|GoLTaR|> tar zxvf file.tar.gz
[00:44] <Trollymctroll> wtf?
[00:44] <subcool> Anyone know what WISh is? - i have it and dont know why
[00:44] <subcool> and its a CPU killer
[00:44] <IdleOne> Trollymctroll: could you please take the nonsense somewhere not Ubuntu related. thanks.
[00:44] <soreau> |GoLTaR|: Does the file name contain special characters and/or spaces?
[00:44] <|GoLTaR|> no
[00:45] <|GoLTaR|> i try with 5 -6 files.. same error :/
[00:45] <aenima6> subcool, i see. well i knew nothing of linux before i started using xbmc, so if you have linux knowledge its probably worth running if you stream a lot of media
[00:45] <nerdynick> Hoping I can get this answered here. Is anyone familiar with Package Repo Pooling?
[00:45] <soreau> |GoLTaR|: Does it make a difference if you try tar -xf /full/path/to/file.tar ?
[00:45] <|GoLTaR|> i will try now
[00:46] <subcool> aenima6, ya, i do- im running tversity off XP now- and i cant stand it. So im trying to move onward, but xbmc always gives me hell. Im hoping to get it working this time around, but first im working on the networking stuff..
[00:46] <aenima6> subcool, yeah i have no trouble with it as long as im running a wired connection.
[00:47] <subcool> aenima6,  u dont wanna run it wirelessly.. - except to the revieveing device.
[00:47] <|GoLTaR|> it work like that
[00:47] <|GoLTaR|> o.O
[00:47] <soreau> |GoLTaR| :)
[00:47] <aenima6> subcool, thats what im talking about
[00:47] <subcool> aenima6, if u had ipkunfu or 2-3 eth's connecting sure..
[00:47] <|GoLTaR|> but why? :/
[00:48] <soreau> |GoLTaR|: You might look into 'tar --help' or 'man tar'
[00:48] <subcool> wireless runs at 100+/mbit/s wireless runs barely 10
[00:48] <aenima6> subcool, i have a couple TVs in teh house that arent by a connection so im trying to get it running wireless so i can throw the tiny pc onto any TV in the house
[00:49] <SIFTU> aenima6: have you run basic networking troubleshooting.. ping, traceroute, routing table (netstat -rn), dns (/etc/resolv.conf)
[00:50] <aenima6> SIFTU, yes thats where im getting confused. I can ping the outside internet. I can see my SMB media share, but i cant touch the internet within XBMC
[00:50] <SIFTU> aenima6: then it's not a OS problem
[00:51] <aenima6> SIFTU, yes Im realizing this now.
[00:51] <subcool> aenima6, what? idk about that
[00:51] <subcool> wireless alone will not block specific ports
[00:51] <subcool> check a firewall or something
[00:51] <subcool> SMB sucks
[00:51] <subcool> SERIOUSLY SUCKS
[00:51] <FloodBot1> subcool: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:52] <|GoLTaR|> im trying to make update to ubuntu and i got the same error :/
[00:52] <bekor> hi, i am new to ubuntu 10.04  looking for opinions on unity
[00:52] <subcool> i hate you flood- statement stands. OS PROBLEM
[00:52] <subcool> wireless hardware CAN NOT limit connectivity to SPECIFIC ports
[00:52] <subcool> unless FIREWALLED
[00:52] <zooka> bekor - Try it out and decide for yourself if you like it :)
[00:52] <aenima6> subcool, SIFTU, the thing is, if i add a 10 second delay before XBMC runs, then it sees the internet, but wont see my SMB.
[00:52] <subcool> OS PROBLEM!!!!!
[00:53] <zooka> bekor - many people like it, many people prefer something else. You always have the choice with linux
[00:53] <subcool> aenima6, is the pc a POS?
[00:53] <aenima6> subcool, no its a intel atom/nvidia ION
[00:53] <bekor> have you been using it yourself?
[00:54] <zooka> bekor - I used it for quite a while on 11.04, I am currently using AwesomeWM because I've always wanted to try it. I do still use Unity for regular usage / school though
[00:54] <subcool> aenima6, ya.. id count that as a pOS
[00:55] <subcool> aenima6, and Atom processor wont be able to handle that kinda work
[00:55] <aenima6> subcool, well its the size of a dvd case, and it does everything it needs to do. just this lame wireless isue
[00:55] <subcool> i cant get it to work on a 64bit celeron
[00:55] <aenima6> subcool, it handles 1080 files no problem
[00:55] <bekor> awsomewm? i will have to look into that will it work on computers with 512mb RAM?
[00:55] <subcool> aenima6, its not like that
[00:55] <subcool> think of it like this
[00:56] <subcool> running a super computer off of a 30$router
[00:56] <subcool> "technically" can work.. WIll it!? - uh
[00:56] <subcool> i bet if u try the same setup on something not netbook- it will work
[00:56] <aenima6> subcool, well its not a streaming issue, bc i cant even reach my network
[00:56] <aenima6> it works on my jolicloud netbook actually
[00:56] <subcool> OS- something is blocking u
[00:56] <subcool> firewall?
[00:57] <SIFTU> subcool: it uses the GPU for video rendering.. it's plenty powerful enough
[00:57] <subcool> SIFTU, no- i get that, im not talkinb about video render
[00:57] <zooka> bekor - for low ram set-ups, I would suggest install Xubuntu or Lubuntu instead of Ubuntu. They use different desktop environments that work much better in low ram systems. They are both very conventional setups and you should have no problems getting used to them. However, if you research awesome or another window manager and want to try them, they are very good for such systems as well. They just take a lot more work to get used to.
[00:57] <subcool> SIFTU, im talkiing about file render.
[00:57] <zooka> Woops, typed that up for nothing
[00:58] <SIFTU> subcool: file render.. righto
[00:58] <subcool> aenima6, what doesnt make sense to me- is if u put a stall on the XBMC to start, that shouldnt kill smb, unless something else was also put on hold...
[00:58] <subcool> SIFTU, u get the idea..
[00:58] <subcool> smb works just fine if XBMC isnt initaited?
[00:59] <aenima6> subcool, yeah, thats why im confused, and why i came here bc i dont understand how linux OS works
[00:59] <SIFTU> aenima6: did you see my PM
[00:59] <aenima6> subcool, smb works with xbmc initialized
[00:59] <subcool> butu dont have interenet
[00:59] <shawnboy> is there any alternative to MythTV for DVR on Ubuntu?
[00:59] <aenima6> just not when i delay the issue so that internet works within xbmc
[00:59] <aenima6> SIFTU no i didnt, ill look
[01:00] <subcool> aenima6, maybe xbmc is hosing ur internet due to the lag..
[01:00] <subcool> xbmc hoses my computer-
[01:00] <aenima6> but i can still ping out in the terminal
[01:00] <subcool> thats what iw as working on now- but im working on netowrking issues first
[01:01] <smw> subcool, I find xbmc runs fine on my computer
[01:01] <subcool> ya, xbmc is hosing u
[01:01] <subcool> swm, ya, i was aksing about wish- it was cloggin my cpu. i just figured it out- imma try now once i dl something
[01:01] <MonkeyDust> !kworker
[01:02] <subcool> aenima6, what happens if u put a 30sec delay
[01:02] <subcool> or a minute?
[01:02] <subcool> lets the computer startup and settle before loading xbmc
[01:02] <aenima6> havent tried, but i guess i could, thanks for the diea
[01:02] <smw> shawnboy, MythTV is the best option. Not sure if there are others.
[01:02] <aenima6> idea
[01:03] <smw> shawnboy, what is wrong with mythtv?
[01:04] <smw> shawnboy, (also, xbmc is best for media already recorded)
[01:05] <Loshki> shawnboy: see also http://alternativeto.net/software/mythtv. There's no clear winner (IMO)...
[01:06] <aenima6> subcool, ok i have no idea why, but didnt even make the change or reboot or anytyhign, just went back to xbmc and tried again and it works, its streaming from my network and i can see inet
[01:06] <shawnboy> smw, well, i setup the backend and mythtv seems to work well on that machine both back and front ends.
[01:07] <shawnboy> but running frontend on my laptop... frontend freezes, loops (restarts, then freezes again) , things like that.
[01:07] <shawnboy> I started with 0.23, upgraded all to 0.24.1 and no improvements.
[01:07] <smw> shawnboy, perhaps xbmc? I think it can connect to recorded mythtv
[01:07] <smw> shawnboy, not sure.
[01:07] <shawnboy> it's a lot of grief, but so many people use it, I figure this can't be the norm.
[01:08] <smw> shawnboy, I auto download my media and stream to xbmc frontends throughout the house
[01:08] <Sumpter> hey how do I set up irc through the default ubuntu client?
[01:09] <smw> Sumpter, what is the default ubuntu client?
[01:09] <Sumpter> empathy I think
[01:09] <smw> Sumpter, I did not know there was one... I use xchat
[01:09] <shawnboy> i just got an HDhomerun tuner and want to record, pause, etc live tv.
[01:09] <Sumpter> yeah
[01:09] <smw> Sumpter, empathy is not an irc program
[01:09] <Sumpter> its right up there in the top corner
[01:09] <Sumpter> oh okay well theres something
[01:09] <shawnboy> i already use torrents, but not all the tv shows i like are available.
[01:09] <smw> Sumpter, also, im clients are not good irc clients
[01:09] <Fail_BOt> I'm an idiot.. I deleted my /etc/passwd file, and now ubuntu will not boot.  I used a slackware cd I had floating around to boot, mounted the drive, and there are no back ups, can I manually create a file, or is there a "temp" I can use to allow me to boot?
[01:09] <Sumpter> because it asks me to set up irc chats, but i cant log in
[01:09] <smw> shawnboy, that is odd :-P
[01:09] <shawnboy> so I want to use my new hdhomerun to record live TV
[01:10] <subcool> aenima6, awesome!! gotta love how that happens..
[01:10] <shawnboy> broadcast.
[01:10] <Sumpter> because it asks me to set up irc chats, but i cant log in
[01:10] <subcool> aenima6, glad i couldnt help :)
[01:10] <Sumpter> sorry about the double post my bad
[01:10] <aenima6> haha thanks. yeah i wish i had some idea what it is. bc im sure next time i boot up it wont work
[01:10] <Sumpter> also how can I set up a linux distro on a usb drive while in ubuntu
[01:11] <smw> shawnboy, what can't you find on torrents? I am very curious. I have gotten the idea that everything except some news shows are not uploaded :-P
[01:11] <Fail_BOt> I also deleted /etc/shadow and /etc/g****
[01:11] <smw> shawnboy, (I am in no way condoning piracy ;-) )
[01:11] <shawnboy> for example my wife and I like cooking shows on PBS. Not to big on those on the torrent sites.
[01:12] <smw> Fail_BOt, what is wrong with you? lol
[01:12] <smw> Fail_BOt, I suggest I reinstall...
[01:12] <smw> Fail_BOt, is there a reason you deleted every file that contains user info?
[01:12] <subcool> aenima6, see im working on the same thing now, and having issues with smb myself. ugh.. what a b*
[01:12] <Fail_BOt> I'm building an LFS, and was trying to create users but couldn't lock the pwd file
[01:12] <Sumpter> so anyone?
[01:12] <Fail_BOt> The internets told me too
[01:12] <explodes> whats the name of the torrent client that comes with ubuntu?
[01:12] <Sumpter> how can I use the default client to set up irc
[01:12] <smw> explodes, transmission
[01:13] <Fail_BOt> explodes:transmission
[01:13] <Fail_BOt> So I can't just "fake" a file to boot?
[01:13] <philipballew>  how can I tell the size or a folders contents or a file from bash?
[01:13] <smw> Fail_BOt, you could take one from a correctly installed system.
[01:14] <smw> Fail_BOt, you would need to make sure you could login to root.
[01:14] <Kjekken> i have installed ubuntu 11.04 from usv but when i boot from hd i get "running /scripts/init-bottom Done .."
[01:14] <Kjekken> and it just hangs
[01:14] <smw> Fail_BOt, but why would you? God knows what could go wrong
[01:14] <wildbat> !undelete | Fail_BOt: you can try UNdelete it from live CD ~
[01:14] <Fail_BOt> If I had a live cd I would just reinstall.....
[01:15] <smw> Fail_BOt, perhaps you could boot in single user mode
[01:15] <g0rs> has anybody installed ubuntu distro on a usb drive?
[01:15] <soreau> ! anybody | g0rs
[01:15] <IdleOne> !usb | g0rs
[01:16] <g0rs> hello, i'm trying to install ubuntu OS , a full installation onto a 8 GB USB drive . It is not an installation disk but a complete working ubuntu OS which is bootable from the USB drive. Can anybody let me know if you did that already and  how to setup partitions and install it
[01:17] <Sumpter> @gors yes I have it works very well
[01:17] <soreau> g0rs: See the second link ubottu gave
[01:17] <Sumpter> I just followed the guide on ubuntu
[01:17] <g0rs> Sumpter: Did you have to boot from a DVD to install it or did you install it from you computer?
[01:17] <Sumpter> it gives you an auto installer for usb
[01:17] <Sumpter> no I installed from a usb drive to install
[01:17] <Sumpter> but it runs good off usb anyways
[01:17] <Kjekken> i just installed ubuntu 11.04 from usb and i have never used so much time installing :P
[01:17] <g0rs> Sumpter: The dvd drive wont work on my computer. I had to use install everything via USB.
[01:18] <Sumpter> well this will work for you then
[01:18] <Kjekken> my boot is now frozen in "running /scripts/init-bottom Done .."
[01:18] <Sumpter> worked for me
[01:18] <Sumpter> just get the image for ubuntu
[01:18] <soreau> Kjekken: Does the computer freeze?
[01:18] <Kjekken> no
[01:18] <g0rs> okay and afer that?
[01:18] <Sumpter> and download the universal usb installer that they link you to
[01:19] <Kjekken> cursor blinks
[01:19] <darbe> hi guys
[01:19] <soreau> Kjekken: Can you get to a tty and try 'sudo service gdm restart'?
[01:19] <Kjekken> prob
[01:20] <Kjekken> just enter as command before i boot?
[01:20] <g0rs> Sumpter: are you talking about installation usb drive? Or you are talking about intsalling the bootloader with the boot disk?
[01:20] <soreau> ! tty
[01:20] <g0rs> Sumpter: did you follow any tutorial on the web?
[01:20] <Sumpter> @ g0rs http://www.pendrivelinux.com/downloads/Universal-USB-Installer/Universal-USB-Installer.exe
[01:20] <Sumpter> yea ill link you
[01:20] <soreau> -_-
[01:21] <Sumpter> @g0rs http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[01:21] <Kjekken> oki
[01:21] <soreau> g0rs: For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[01:21] <Sumpter> tell them you want to make a usb drive
[01:21] <Kjekken> will try that
[01:21] <g0rs> Sumpter: I'm on linux. Windows is a no no . I hate micro$oft :/
[01:21] <Sumpter> ah
[01:21] <Sumpter> well then im not sure to be honest
[01:21] <Kjekken> i also had a problem with screen going black if i dont add nomodeset
[01:21] <Sumpter> do you have a windows boot partition?
[01:21] <Kjekken> not sure if they are related
[01:22] <Sumpter> im on ubuntu now, but i keep windows on a seperate partition
[01:22] <g0rs> Sumpter: ubuntu has a start up disk creator which works on th e USB drive. I Could create a USB linux installation drive with that.
[01:22] <Sumpter> yeah
[01:22] <revilodraw> hello. as of yesterday my mouse started acting strangely. when i highlight text, or drag and drop, my pointer refuses to "let go". i'm running 11.04 on a toshiba u300 laptop. any ideas?
[01:22] <soreau> ! usb | g0rs:
[01:22] <Sumpter> but I thought you wanted to install ubuntu?
[01:22] <Sumpter> are you already running it?
[01:23] <g0rs> Sumpter: I have installed ubuntu on my computer. I want to install it again onto a USB drive.
[01:23] <soreau> ! usb | g0rs:
[01:23] <Sumpter> ah okay then yeah do that
[01:24] <RyuGuns> How exactly do you pronounce ubuntu?
[01:24] <rypervenche> RyuGuns: Wikipedia.
[01:24] <IdleOne> oo-boon-too
[01:24] <RyuGuns> Sowwi
[01:24] <RyuGuns> Thanks.
[01:25] <g0rs> Sumpter: after we install the bootable image onto USB , how do we install the OS ont the usb drive again?
[01:26] <Sumpter> I would assume that is how you do it. To be honest I'm a newbie to the whole linux world
[01:26] <lilnasty> hello
[01:26] <lilnasty> me too!
[01:26] <lilnasty> i love it,hate windows
[01:26] <lilnasty> learning about wine and how it works anf terminal commands and you?
[01:26] <g0rs> Sumpter: there are tutorials o the web for installinux onto flash drives.I can take a look at them.
[01:26] <lilnasty> and*
[01:27] <lilnasty> its easier to burn the iso on disc
[01:27] <g0rs> lilnasty: my computer's dvd drive wont work . i have to install everything with usb.
[01:28] <Kjekken> ubuntu homepage has a nice tutorial
[01:28] <Kjekken> just go there and check it out
[01:28] <Sumpter> @g0rs okay, sorry I couldn't help more. I'm actually trying to do the same thing. I want to put DSL on a flash drive
[01:28] <g0rs> Thanks Kjekken
[01:28] <lilnasty> no one talks here
[01:28] <lilnasty> THEN WHY BE IN ROOM
[01:28] <lilnasty> WHATS UP WITH THIS
[01:28] <g0rs> Sumpter: Thanks, DLS on flash drive is pretty easy
[01:28] <revilodraw> lilnasty: lol
[01:28] <lilnasty> UBUNTU TECH SUPPORT HELP
[01:28] <GreenEqualizer> hello
[01:29] <revilodraw> lilnasty: u mad
[01:29] <lilnasty> HELLO
[01:29] <Sumpter> from linux?
[01:29] <lilnasty> NO LOL
[01:29] <GreenEqualizer> Please don't type in caps
[01:29] <kthomas_vh> STOP SHOUTING!!!
[01:29] <qin> !caps | lilnasty
[01:29] <lilnasty> JUST USING CAPS SO THEY CAN SEE ME
[01:29] <lunix> hii
[01:29] <lunix> h are you ?
[01:29] <lilnasty> ok............
[01:29] <g0rs> Sumpter: as a matter of fact, I wanted to install linux on a micro SD card and boot it with ausb adapter . This would be one of my projects :)
[01:29] <lilnasty> im good
[01:29] <revilodraw> i should have shouted. how can i reinstall my mouse drivers?\
[01:29] <Sumpter> yeah. Hey maybe you can help me then. How do you install DSL onto a usb flash drive?
[01:29] <lilnasty> whats up with wine paths to propellerheads reason not opening factory sound bank from within the program?
[01:29] <lunix> hiii
[01:30] <lilnasty> goto mouse driver website
[01:30] <g0rs> Sumpter: there aretutorials for the same. You can install DSL iso onto flash without any tweaks.
[01:30] <lilnasty> use the install method from the ubuntu website to install from flash drive
[01:30] <revilodraw> lilnasty: good idea, i would try that if i used windows
[01:30] <shawnboy> how do I completely uninstall a package with no trace of it so if I re-install it, it downloads it all over again?
[01:30] <lilnasty> revil is a clown lol
[01:30] <lilnasty> why use flash drive,use cd
[01:30] <lilnasty> easier
[01:31] <Sumpter> @g0rs but how do I install an iso to usb in linux?
[01:31] <lilnasty> when its on the cd it has the auto run feature
[01:31] <g0rs> Sumpter: there are no tricks, you install the iso using usb disk creator or with pen drive linux.
[01:31] <Sumpter> i could boot up xp, but its so slow
[01:31] <lilnasty> you put the cd in and either run  it or install it
[01:31] <Sumpter> usb disk creator is preinstalled?
[01:31] <Sumpter> or do i need to download?
[01:31] <revilodraw> lilnasty: i am a clown, true, but how do i reinstall mouse drivers? my mouse is being a freak
[01:31] <kthomas_vh> just installed ubuntu on a laptop,  cannot auth with 10-char WEP on wifi,  suggestions?  Have tried converting to hex-16.
[01:31] <lilnasty> InfraRecorder
[01:32] <g0rs> usb disc creator is installed with ubuntu
[01:32] <ex0_> use UNETBOOTIN its a great live usb creator multi platform support
[01:32] <lilnasty> revil?
[01:32] <Sumpter> @g0rs okay thanks
[01:32] <Sumpter> @g0rs how do I get to it?
[01:32] <g0rs> unetboot is a great software for creating installation disk or full OS installations.
[01:33] <rooot> anyone know how to make xubuntu load the right source node for audio?
[01:33] <lilnasty> sumpter may i ask why you want it on usb?
[01:33] <g0rs> Sumpter: unetboot is on sf.net
[01:33] <Sumpter> I cant seem to resize my windows partition
[01:33] <Sumpter> gparted is showing unallocated for the entire drive
[01:34] <Sumpter> and the default one doesn't work
[01:34] <qin> g0rs: apt-get install unetbootin ?
[01:34] <g0rs> qin: probably yes , please check
[01:34] <ex0_> yes
[01:34] <ex0_> its in the repositories..
[01:35] <ex0_> its a great tool
[01:35] <Sumpter> the only thing i saw preinstalled is startup disk
[01:35] <tiago_> i'm doing a backup of my system to a external HD. Should I see an immediate change in df output?
[01:35] <SteveThing> Does anyone know if 11.04 x32/x64 will detect my SSD during install and configure ext4 accordingly?
[01:35] <shawnboy> how do I completely uninstall a package with no trace of it so if I re-install it, it downloads it all over again?
[01:35] <ex0_> right...u have to use synaptic manager to search and download it, or sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[01:35] <beatbreaker> hi, reccommend something to view massive log files with 600 MEG
[01:36] <beatbreaker> in gnome
[01:36] <Sumpter> @g0rs hey I've tried the apt-get thing but it wants me to root
[01:36] <g0rs> Sumpter: type sudo apt-get
[01:36] <Sumpter> @g0rs and when I type su and my password it says authentication failed
[01:37] <qin> beatbreaker: rather breake it by 1000 lines, before viewing, what logs?
[01:37] <Guest35002> hi
[01:37] <g0rs> Sumpter: you can use your package manager to install it
[01:37] <Sumpter> got it with sudo
[01:37] <Sumpter> what is sudo btw?
[01:37] <beatbreaker> qin, java stack trace logs
[01:37] <Guest35002> is there anyone know how to change a file code?
[01:37] <Sumpter> only linux experience i have is android
[01:38] <Guest35002> from ascii text to ascii programme c++ text?
[01:38] <rooot> anyone know how to make ubuntu load the right audio source node on boot?
[01:38] <rooot> etc 0x0
[01:38] <SteveThing> Does anyone know if 11.04 x32/x64 will detect my SSD during install and configure ext4 accordingly?
[01:38] <beatbreaker> Sumpter, instsall Arch
[01:38] <Sumpter> what is that?
[01:38] <Guest35002> except iconv
[01:39] <Guest35002> or recode
[01:39] <ChronicSyncope> SteveThing, i don't *know* but i would imagine it would... it wouldn't be that hard to find out
[01:39] <Guest35002> they don't work with large files
[01:40] <shawnboy> so nobody knows how to completely remove a package to make it as you never installed it?
[01:40] <Sumpter> @beatbreaker what is Arch?
[01:40] <aj00200> shawnboy: does apt-get purge suit your needs?
[01:40] <beatbreaker> Sumpter, if you want to learn linux then install ArchLinux
[01:40] <Guest35002> is there any tools to change a large file's code?
[01:40] <Sumpter> from the sudo thing?
[01:41] <beatbreaker> hi, reccommend something to view massive log files with 600 MEG in Gnome, not Gedit and GUI preferred
[01:41] <Sumpter> @beatbreaker from the sudo thing?
[01:42] <shawnboy> I tried aptitude purge, but when I reinstall it says "selecting previously deselected package" and uses what's on the hard drive.
[01:42] <tiago_> beatbreaker: emacs, vim?
[01:42] <g0rs> Sumpter: are you a student or do you work?
[01:42] <beatbreaker> tiago_, I use VIM already, maybe gvim I guess
[01:43] <aj00200> shawnboy: is it possible that the install data is cached somewhere?
[01:43] <Sumpter> @g0rs student
[01:43] <beatbreaker> Sumpter, if you want to resize your partitions, download gparted and boot into that
[01:43] <linn-merethe> need seriously help on installing a network printer.. Canon mg series
[01:43] <SIFTU> shawnboy: apt-get clean?
[01:43] <Sumpter> @beatbreaker ive tried but it says the entire hdd is unallocated space
[01:43] <g0rs> is anbody working  in a computer here?
[01:43] <g0rs> is anbody working  in a company here?
[01:43] <Sumpter> ah
[01:44] <Sumpter> i thought you were crazy at first, we're all at computers
[01:44] <rooot> anyone know how to save hda analyzer settings so i can just boot my system up and wont habe to mess with any settings
[01:44] <rooot> ?
[01:44] <beatbreaker> Sumpter, make sure you get the latest version
[01:44] <beatbreaker> what file system is it?
[01:44] <beatbreaker> you can also try parted magic to boot into
[01:44] <Sumpter> @beatbreaker NTFS
[01:45] <linn-merethe> can someone please help me installing a network printer?
[01:45] <subcool_> this is the proper use right? ssh@ip
[01:46] <linn-merethe> ?
[01:46] <g0rs> linn-merethe: what printer is it? i could instal an epson wlan network printer using third party drivers.
[01:46] <mia158> Test
[01:47] <rooot> anyone know how to make the hda analyzer settings stick?
[01:47] <shawnboy> aj00200, don't know.
[01:47] <shawnboy> SIFTU, haven't tried that one.
[01:47] <linn-merethe> g0rs: Its a canon printer..tried setting it up with samba and all that stuff but i cant find anything..
[01:48] <g0rs> linn-merethe: there might be support for canon printers. You might try searching for its drivers.Do you know which year or model it is?
[01:50] <thenickperson> is ~/Public really used for anything?
[01:50] <g0rs> linn-merethe: if i were you, i'd find out its model number and find its driver in  search engine like google. there is a good chance that there is already a driver for it.
[01:50] <jtrucks> what are poeple n 10.04 LTS using for A/V? the stock clamav stuff is 0.94, but I need to get 0.95. Is there a safe repo to get that from, or should I compile and build my own package?
[01:50]  * jtrucks doesn't want to use some fly-by-night package repo.
[01:50] <linn-merethe> g0rs: yes its 2011, but it wont even find it..and when i press on windows-printers via samba ..nothing..tells there are no shared printers and i should check my firewall settings
[01:51] <g0rs> linn-merethe: probabbly you have to install it with native llinux support and not with samba.
[01:51] <jojo_> any one here who can help me
[01:52] <jojo_> its about the network manager?
[01:52] <linn-merethe> g0rs: how do i do that?
[01:52] <g0rs> linn-merethe: which distro are you using?
[01:52] <jtrucks> jojo_: just ask the question.
[01:52] <linn-merethe> gors: noob here.. sorry.. what do you mean bu distro
[01:52] <jojo_> how can i edit the ip address of the shared internet i used network manager to shared
[01:52] <jojo_> how can i edit the ip address of the shared internet i used network manager to shared internet
[01:53] <g0rs> linn-merethe: are you running ubuntu?
[01:53] <linn-merethe> g0rs: yes, the latest one.. 10.4
[01:53] <g0rs> linn-merethe: you'd have to find a package which is compatible with your printer. it is usually a .deb file
[01:53] <aj00200> jojo_: try this: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=!ip
[01:53] <g0rs> linn-merethe: let me know your printer name
[01:53] <jtrucks> linn-merethe: that isn't the latest, but it isthe latest LTS install.
[01:53] <jojo_> jtrucks: how can i edit the ip address of the shared internet i used network manager to shared internet
[01:53] <jtrucks> jojo_: why are you asking me? if I had an answer I would have answered.
[01:54] <aj00200> jojo_: that depends a lot on your network setup
[01:54] <linn-merethe> g0rs: Canon Mg5250
[01:54] <jojo_> aj00200 : ok i will try the website now
[01:55] <g0rs> linn-merethe: there is support for your printer. Try here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1655880
[01:55] <aj00200> Does anyone know when Firefox 7 will hit the repos? OMGUbuntu said within hours but that was hours ago. It doesn't even appear to be in the firefox-stable PPA
[01:55] <jojo_> aj00200 : i shared internet using network manager and i wanted to edit the range of the ip address how can i do that???
[01:55] <subcool_> i hate brain farts
[01:56] <jojo_> aj00200 : i shared internet using network manager and i wanted to edit the range of the ip address how can i do that???
[01:57] <xangua> aj00200: it is
[01:58] <wyang_> i tried "service iptables start"
[01:58] <wyang_> but the status is still fail
[01:58] <Rodrigo> 11.10
[01:59] <jojo_> any one here who know..s
[01:59] <jojo_> aj00200 : i shared internet using network manager and i wanted to edit the range of the ip address how can i do that???
[01:59] <xangua> !oneiric | Rodrigo
[01:59] <aj00200> jojo_: the internal address or the external address?
[01:59] <jojo_> aj00200 : internal ip address
[01:59] <Rodrigo> Help
[01:59] <Rodrigo> Wine
[01:59] <aj00200> xangua: that is weird. I can't seem to get the update manager to get it. Even switching between US Server and the "Main Server" don't make a difference
[02:00] <aj00200> jojo_: you will need to make a manual connection setup
[02:00] <xangua> aj00200: if you are using natty you will have to wait or activate backports/proposed updates maybe
[02:00] <jojo_> yes may if thats the case
[02:01] <xangua> aj00200: the ppa is for earlier ubuntu releases
[02:01] <Promille> They keyboard layout(i use the norwegian layout with "æøå") goes back to USA layout _even though_ i apply norwegian layout system wide, and deletes everything else. Any idea how to save it permanently?
[02:01] <Promille> Ubuntu 11.04
[02:01] <jojo_> aj00200 : yes may be you cannot edit the default address of a shared network..?
[02:01] <Rodrigo> 11.10 b2
[02:02] <Rodrigo> Net start
[02:02] <aj00200> jojo_: it depends on the hardware you use to run your network. Try reading the manual for the device you connect to (such as your router)
[02:03] <xangua> Rodrigo: /join #ubuntu+1
[02:03] <jojo_> aj00200 : http://www.somewhereville.com/?p=1196 my connection is like this one
[02:04] <linn-merethe> g0rs: why do i have to type a password in the terminal?
[02:04] <jojo_> aj00200 : http://www.somewhereville.com/?p=1196 my connection is like this one
[02:04] <g0rs> linn-merethe: whenyou install something you'd have to enter your password .
[02:05] <linn-merethe> g0rs: yes, but the password i am typing is wrong..i only have one password and i have only 2 seconds to type it..
[02:05] <g0rs> linn-merethe: ubuntu doesnt have a root password . your login pw should be used there.
[02:06] <aj00200> jojo_: then you will probably need to change your IP in your NAT device
[02:06] <g0rs> linn-merethe: can i pm you ?
[02:06] <linn-merethe> g0rs: thats what i am using...when it asks me for the password i cant type i have to press enter then type the password fast. yes you can
[02:07] <g0rs> linn-merethe: there is no time limit for entering password.
[02:07] <jeremy77> is there a short cut key to pull up the desktop switcher in 11.04 ?
[02:07] <g0rs> linn-merethe: why did you have to enter your password? were you installing something?
[02:07] <Promille> linn-merethe: when you enter password it shows up as blanks in terminal, not
[02:07] <aj00200> jojo_: you may also be able to do it in the switch
[02:07] <Promille> linn-merethe: not like ******* which is normal
[02:08] <g0rs> linn-merethe: you wont see any characters on the terminal when you're typing your password.
[02:08] <linn-merethe> g0rs: can we go on a private screen?
[02:08] <g0rs> yes
[02:08] <aartist> Hi
[02:08] <aj00200> jeremy77: Super Key + s
[02:09] <linn-merethe> g0rs:hgow?
[02:09] <g0rs> hi aartist
[02:09] <jojo_> aj00200 : Im able to shared internet now...
[02:10] <jeremy77> aj00200, thanks . it works! now is there a way to make that a short cut on taskbar
[02:10] <g0rs> linn-merethe: i sent you a pm, it should be visible in your irc client
[02:11] <ahoneycun> anyone here ?
[02:11] <rooot> ahoneycun,  no
[02:11] <aartist> Me
[02:11] <aj00200> jeremy77: you can probably right-click and select add widgets or something like that. But there should be one there by default
[02:11] <g0rs> hello ahoneycun
[02:12] <rooot> anyone know of  any equalizer?
[02:12] <aartist> Hi ahoneycun
[02:12] <aj00200> rooot: maybe audacity?
[02:12] <rooot> aj00200,  kind havin trouble with my audio... its not loadin the right settings i think
[02:12] <ahoneycun> anyone knows how to intergate a music player in the sound menu?
[02:13] <rooot> aj00200,  i have to change it every reboot via hda analizer
[02:13] <jeremy77> aj00200,  there was but I dont like unity and went to ubuntu clasic.  that desktop switcher was the only thing I liked about unity
[02:13] <miles__> Is there a better room for Quickly related questions ?
[02:14] <aj00200> jeremy77: sorry, but I don't know how to make a shortcut for that. But I would like to encourage you to give Unity an extended try. You can Use Super Key + 1-9 for window switching if you did not know that already
[02:16] <w30> jeremy77, make a panel addition of workspace switcher to bottom panel
[02:16] <miles__> the answer i was looking for was #quickly
[02:16] <aj00200> xangua: I'm still not seeing Firefox 7, with or without the PPA. Any ideas?
[02:16] <xangua> aj00200: wait¿ download it from firefox.com¿
[02:17] <jeremy77> aj00200, I have tried 3 or for times to get use to it. I just like the traditional gnome with docky instead of bottom panel. guess its just a personal preference
[02:17] <aj00200> jeremy77: ok. w30's suggestion sounds correct. Try that out.
[02:17] <aj00200> xangua: ok, thanks.
[02:18] <w30> jeremy77, then put a workplace switcher on - in the top panel
[02:19] <jeremy77> w30, that worked, thanks.  too bad it dont pull up all four desktops on screen like the unity one
[02:20] <qin> jeremy77: Mod4-e
[02:21] <jeremy77> qin,  Mod4-e   ??
[02:22] <qin> jeremy77: If you run compiz, press: "windows" key and e
[02:23] <jeremy77> qin, oh ok. just installed ccc manager so I will try that
[02:24] <qin> jeremy77: I think it is expo plugin.
[02:32] <rooot> anyone know how to make a script to run on startup for my sound settings?
[02:33] <apporc> I found that the fonts used by my nautilus Navigation toolbar and firefox Navigation toolbar are different, which though i configed both as "Ubuntu" font.
[02:34] <apporc> Ubuntu 10.04
[02:34] <apporc> rooot: there some places to set it .
[02:35] <rooot> yes i know
[02:35] <rooot> ive been doing it in hda analyzer
[02:35] <rooot> but i dont wanna keep doing it
[02:35] <rooot> apporc,  i wanna just make a script uppon start up
[02:35] <apporc> rooot: System-Preferences-Startup Applications . this is one.
[02:36] <rooot> apporc,  do u know anything about the hda-analyzer.diff file? do u think i can make it load upon start up
[02:37] <apporc> rooot: I am not familiar with that . but as you want to load it upon startup . there are some approach .
[02:37] <rawfodog> I want to install lubuntu, but before I do I am testing to see if wifi works off the live cd. Thing is, it's doing that thing where in ADDITIONAL DRIVERS it shows broadcom, but the paradox is, I need INTERNET ACCESS TO ACTIVATE THE DRIVER. How do I do this manually ?
[02:37] <apporc> rooot: you can write to the /etc/rc.local
[02:37] <rooot> apporc,  because if anyone has any experience in hda analyzer they all know that all the settings will vanish after restart
[02:38] <rooot> apporc,  i can put the .diff file in their?
[02:38] <apporc> rooot: you can look that file ,you edit it and write some commands there for the os to run upon startup
[02:39] <rooot> yeh but the .diff file has alot of stuff in it lol.. do u need to put any option lines or anything like that in their?
[02:39] <apporc> rooot:at your case ,maybe you can edit a "patch"command for the .diff file
[02:40] <rooot> Know any Patch commands?
[02:40] <KirinDave> Hey all, I have a rather specific question. I'm looking for someone with a laptop with an intel hd 3000. I'm trying to scope out which laptop to buy as a full-time ubuntu machine, but my wife demands I keep playing Minecraft with her.
[02:41] <rooot> !patch
[02:41] <KirinDave> I'm trying to find out if I can get away with integrated graphics, or if I have to find something with discrete graphics. I figured the easiest way would be to ask in here.
[02:41] <kat> hey, anyone know when Firefox 7 hits the repos?
[02:42] <apporc> rooot:I though , it is one configuration file that will change every time you restart , isn't it? then how about the .diff file .It is diff original-configuration present-configuration?
[02:43] <KirinDave> Maybe I should ask in #minecraft as well..
[02:43] <xangua> !fx7
[02:43] <xangua> kat if you use lucid or  maverick use the ppa
[02:43] <rooot> apporc,  yes  everytime u restart the settings go back to normal but i do believe the .diff file stays the same
[02:43] <xangua> if you use natty wait
[02:43] <xangua> !fx6
[02:43] <jeremy77> I formated my 250 gig drive as ext4 and coppied all my files back to it and rebooter my pc and when I go to properties of drive it says The permissions of 250 GB hard drive could not be determined.  how do I set permissions to that drive ?
[02:43] <apporc> rooot: where does the .diff come from in you case?
[02:43] <rooot> apporc,  its saved to ur file system.. so im wondering if i move it and find a way to make it load on its own and dont use hda analyzer anymore if it will be good
[02:43] <xangua> or download it from firefox.com kat
[02:44] <rooot> apporc,  when u edit hda analyzer.. it saves a file.. called hda-analyzer.diff which are the settings u applied
[02:44] <apporc> rooot:where is this file located?
[02:45] <rooot> apporc,  i do believe in /tmp/
[02:45] <apporc> rooot: you found it in /tmp ?
[02:45] <rooot> apporc,  it generated in there.. "saved"
[02:46] <cocoongg> hello
[02:46] <rooot> apporc,  when u open the file the first line is Diff for codec 0/0 (0x10ec0888):
[02:47] <rooot> apporc,  and then load of stuff after
[02:48] <apporc> rooot: seconds.
[02:48] <rooot> apporc,  kk
[02:49] <jeremy77> how can I take ownership of a 250 GB hard drive formated to ext4 ?
[02:52] <rooot> apporc,  could i make a config file and put it in the module direc?
[02:52] <apporc> rooot: see this post , will it help yo u .
[02:52] <apporc> rooot: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1435136.html
[02:52] <apporc> rooot: it refered one patch file someone written.
[02:54] <rooot> who wrote the script
[02:54] <rooot> is it the lidex guy?
[02:56] <apporc> rooot: maybe it's a bug still unfixed... According to this post :http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:RXCo8RjaZaAJ:osdir.com/ml/ubuntu-bugs/2010-04/msg83805.html+hda-analyzer.diff+patch&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk
[02:57] <rooot> could i do this
[02:57] <rooot> apporc,  Running the following command as root fixes sound on my laptop:
[02:57] <rooot> # hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x19 SET_PIN_WIDGET_CONTROL 0x22The 0x22 represents VREF_GRD
[02:59] <Ibis> Does anyone have any ideas why I'm not getting any results for following this tutorial? http://serverfault.com/questions/112795/how-can-i-run-a-server-on-linux-on-port-80-as-a-normal-user           (The point is, I want to use port 80 for testing my Website. But the server is runned by a NON-Root account)
[03:00] <Ibis> The page can not be found when I try to access my testing webpage on port 80, instead of 8080
[03:01] <Chaintech> hi all
[03:02] <Ibis> Hi.
[03:03] <_Ray_> Hi. In Gentoo, I could select a specific package version to install by emerging package=version. Is there a way to specify which version of a package I want to install in Ubuntu? Specifically, packages.ubuntu.com lists the latest GCC as 4.5 for Natty, but 4.6 for Oneiric. I'd want to have 4.6 on Natty.
[03:05] <xangua> !latest | _Ray_
[03:05] <xangua> so search a ppa or compile yourself
[03:10] <rooot> is there anywhere... where i can get hda verb?
[03:11] <fuho> Hi, could someone help me set up putty to show box-draw characters when I connect to my VPS?
[03:13] <fuho> I tried connecting directly from xterm and it works fine. If i try locale on VPS from xterm i get utf8, if I try locale on VPS from putty it returns POSIX
[03:13] <hydromet> hello
[03:13] <fuho> I set putty terminal-type string to xterm.
[03:14] <hydromet> when I use aptitude to search for a package, on my Ubuntu 11.04 Server system, if the package is installed it comes back like this:
[03:14] <hydromet> i A dpkg-dev                                                             - Debian package development tools
[03:14] <hydromet> what does the "A" mean to the right of the letter "i" (where "i" indicates its installed)?
[03:15] <fuho> I basically tried all the combinations :( I had the same problem a ayear ago and gave up back then, but using direct ssh from gnome-terminal sucks.
[03:17] <hydromet> does anyone know what the difference is between "I' and "i A" when aptitude is used to display a list of installed packages?
[03:17] <hydromet> oops, I mean the difference between "i" and "i A"
[03:18] <alpha1> I have done a local install (since I am not administrator) of git and would like to bind the command "git" to the actual git program file ~/installs/bin/git. How do I do this? I guess it should be done in .bashrc but I don't know how
[03:18] <crass> hydromet: I believe that means the package was automatically installed
[03:18] <Seven_Six_Two> After the update, pulseaudio won't start. Sound works from media players, no panel volume control. Complete details at http://pastebin.com/LFxWJW7d
[03:18] <hydromet> thanks crass:
[03:20] <Ibis> Any ideas why this doesn't redirect connection from port 80 to 9001? I used this command to get this effect: sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp –dport 80 -j REDIRECT –to-port 9001
[03:20] <alpha1> ok, I found what I was looking for (alias)
[03:20] <Ibis> Running a webserver here on port 9001, as a non root user (regular user).
[03:22] <SIFTU> Ibis: you are working n the nat table.. only your local machine or on a router?
[03:23] <Ibis> Only on localhost I am working on.
[03:23] <Ibis> It's nothing special other than being a test-only server.
[03:23] <SIFTU> Ibis: you probably want to use the INPUT chain then
[03:25] <Ibis> How can I do that exactly?
[03:25] <SIFTU> Ibis: hmm you might be right after looking at some examples
[03:28] <Ibis> SIFTU: How and how cna I delete previous rules?
[03:31] <SIFTU> Ibis: you might want to play with fwbuilder to build your rules
[03:34] <Ibis> Alrighties, thanks for the suggestions SIFTU.
[03:42] <kuchiku> what's the latest version of firefox for ubuntu ?
[03:42] <kuchiku> i got version 6 but heard there's version 8
[03:43] <xangua> 7 is stable, firefox.com
[03:44] <kuchiku> how to install one ?
[03:44] <rooot> anyone know the model for limbo 6000a?
[03:44] <kuchiku> i can't seems to get it on the software center
[03:44] <rww> oh great, now I get to go modify a tonne of factoids for the "how do i get firefox 7?!" crowd, don't I
[03:44] <rww> !latest | kuchiku
[03:46] <rooot> anyone know the model for zareason that work for  the sound card?
[03:47] <kuchiku> silverlight or moonlight wont work
[03:47] <kuchiku> say not compatible
[03:48] <dr_willis> moonlight does nit have all the features silverlight does
[03:48] <kuchiku> is there a silverlight for ubuntu then ?
[03:49] <dr_willis> kuchiku:  moonlight is it.
[03:49] <dr_willis> what are you trying to run
[03:50] <kuchiku> i installed silverlight and firefox version 6 said it is not compatible so it disable it
[03:50] <dr_willis> installed silverlight how
[03:51] <widewake> hey there. i'm trying to update java. DLed update, cant figure the rest
[03:51] <kuchiku> drwillisssssssss silverlight is for windows system
[03:52] <Cyclotron> Hi.. i am unable to find a manual entry for the command - alias. plz help
[03:52] <dr_willis> kuchiku:  yes it is. moonlight is for linux.
[03:53] <dr_willis> Cyclotron: it may be a bash builtin command
[03:53] <SIFTU> Cyclotron: alias <name>='command'
[03:53] <Cyclotron> dr_willis: how do i execute it.. e.g alias testcmd = 'ls -lrt'
[03:54] <dr_willis> i think your spaces are wrong.
[03:54] <Cyclotron> dr_willis
[03:54] <Cyclotron> dr_willis: lemme try
[03:54] <G00053> graphical ui rdp client ?
[03:54] <dr_willis> bash guides give examples of alias
[03:54] <SIFTU> Cyclotron: yeah take the spaces out between the =
[03:55] <SIFTU> G00053: remmina in my preferred
[03:55] <Cyclotron> dr_willis/SIFTU: thanks.. it was an issue with the space :-). by the way why isnt there a manual entry?
[03:55] <soreau> How can you log into an ftp site with implicit ssl enabled?
[03:55] <dr_willis> Cyclotron: its a.bash built in command
[03:55] <SIFTU> Cyclotron: there is for me
[03:55] <locojay_> hi i m installing ubuntu 11.04 alter text mode on a 2011 mac mini. after selecting the usb stick to boo i get install ubuntu . after pressing i only see a black screen and nothing happens
[03:55] <dr_willis> would be my guess
[03:56] <SIFTU> Cyclotron: http://pastebin.com/UWrZX78M
[03:56] <locojay_> do i need to set something in edit mode?
[03:56] <dr_willis> alias --help  perhaps
[03:56] <locojay_> is there a only text install
[03:56] <Cyclotron> dr_willis: Seems like SIFT is having a man entry for alias but not me.. any idea?
[03:57] <SIFTU> Cyclotron: I run a different distro
[03:57] <Cyclotron> SIFT: which is ur distro?
[03:57] <SIFTU> Cyclotron: Arch Linux
[03:57] <Cyclotron> SIFTU: oh okie... is there a way to add it to the manual... like some sort of manual entry?
[03:58] <rooot> anyoe know if zareason computer is compbat with ubuntu?
[03:58] <rooot> Im guessing so?
[03:59] <dr_willis> you allready know how to make an alias.. ;)
[03:59] <rooot> And if so what model should i use for an options line in alsa-base.conf
[03:59] <rooot> ??
[03:59] <dr_willis> !hcl | rooot
[03:59] <tapout> On an old install, I had a bunch of passwords... where would that file be and is there a way to import them into my new install (ssd)
[03:59] <rooot> it doesnt say it
[04:00] <dr_willis> forums perhaps
[04:00] <Cyclotron> dr_willis: haha.. but just curious :)
[04:00] <rooot> its called zareason
[04:01] <shawnboy> can someone point me in a good direction for learning how to change audio from pulseaudio to something else?
[04:01] <shawnboy> I've never messed with audio stuff before in ubuntu
[04:01] <SIFTU> Cyclotron: I'm not sue but I think you can just add it /usr/share/man....
[04:01] <dr_willis> www.gnu.org/s/bash/manual/html_node/Bash-Builtins.html
[04:01] <widewake> Cant get this to work, trying the commands nothing happens. http://java.com/en/download/help/linux_install.xml#selfextracting
[04:01] <dr_willis> most bash builtins dont have man pages
[04:02] <dr_willis> info bash may have docs on it
[04:02] <elbeto> I have libreoffice 3.3, but cant install 3.4, I get: wrong architecture, and it is not, anyone having the same problem?
[04:03] <Seven_Six_Two> can someone please pastebin their /etc/pulse/client.conf ? Thanks
[04:03] <Ibis> elbeto: You might be to install libreoffice of a 64bit machine
[04:04] <Ibis> Try downloaded a 32bit, i386, version of it
[04:04] <tapout> Where are the passwords stored ?  System->Preferences->Passwords .. what file is that using?
[04:04] <shawnboy> so how do I change from pulseaudio to a different audio____
[04:05] <elbeto> Ibis: im sure my machine is 64bit, how do i find out?
[04:06] <Seven_Six_Two> elbeto, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[04:06] <Ibis> elbeto: Open up System monitor
[04:07] <Ibis> elbeto: In terminal: uname -h
[04:08] <SIFTU> elbeto: grep /proc/cpuinfo vmx
[04:09] <elbeto> thanks!
[04:09] <SIFTU> elbeto: ah sorry.. i was thinking virtualizatio
[04:09] <shawnboy> howto change from pulseaudio to different sound daemon?
[04:09] <dr_willis> shawnboy:  why do you need to
[04:09] <furyoshonen> does 11.04 have a graphics card monitor?
[04:09] <dr_willis> !pulse
[04:09] <zykotick9> elbeto, the shortest way is "uname -m"
[04:10] <Seven_Six_Two> pulse doesn't start for me...
[04:10] <elbeto> thanks!
[04:10] <Seven_Six_Two> I'm trying to start it with apport, but it's taking a while
[04:10] <elbeto> it is 64bit, so i dont know why i cannot install libreoffice 3.4
[04:12] <widewake> how can i update java? http://java.com/en/download/help/linux_install.xml#selfextracting
[04:12] <christopher> so your computer is 64bit, did you install the 64bit version of ubuntu or the generic 32bit?
[04:12] <Seven_Six_Two> elbeto, where are you trying to install it from?
[04:13] <zykotick9> christopher, "uname -m" says what OS versions 32/64 they have.  (well, technically you could have a different kernel and userspace, but that very irregular)
[04:13] <Ibis> zykotick9: Oh you're right, I meant to say that.
[04:13] <elbeto> Seven_Six_Two:  LibO_3.4.0_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz
[04:13] <Ibis> -.-
[04:14] <Ibis> Mines is i686
[04:14] <Seven_Six_Two> elbeto, from where? libreoffice site?
[04:14] <Seven_Six_Two> elbeto, that's an x86 file, not 64 bit
[04:16] <locojay_> ubuntu 11.04 alternate text on mac min. install ubuntu--> e --> replace quiet with nomodeset ==> still black screen??
[04:16] <shawnboy> dr_willis, I'm having freeze issues with MythTV. In that irc channel, I was told to get latest release. I have latest release. The he said it's probably pulseaudio issue and that there are better alternatives to pulseaudio anyway.
[04:17] <shawnboy> dr_willis, I know that's controversial, but if there is another audio daemon I could try, I'd be interested if it solved the mythtv freezess.
[04:17] <zykotick9> shawnboy, i've run myth for years, and honestly it's never been 100% stable (probably why it will never be a debian package).  Good luck though!  Myth Rocks!
[04:17] <Seven_Six_Two> shawnboy, mythtv has an alsa output module? try that
[04:18] <elbeto> Seven_Six_Two: that explains it, thanks
[04:18] <shawnboy> zykotick9, I'm sure it would rock if it didn't freeze when I tried to exit watching TV.
[04:19] <zykotick9> shawnboy, if it's a constant issue/problem then that really sucks man.  hope you find a fix!
[04:19] <shawnboy> Seven_Six_Two, any helpful push as to how I try the alsa module for myth?
[04:19] <shawnboy> zykotick9, yes, every time I exit TV it hangs.
[04:20] <D3CRYP70R> hello world
[04:20] <Seven_Six_Two> shawnboy, well, you could uninstall all of the pulse stuff, and install the alsa stuff. As for myth, I don't know how to do it, but there's likely documentation about enabling it. Some programs have either different versions, or separate modules for input and output.
[04:21] <zykotick9> shawnboy, try changing your video and audio outputs first, see if those make a difference - i'd start with video if i where you.
[04:21] <curiousx> echo "Hello world" > my_first_program.sh =P
[04:21] <D3CRYP70R> #include <iostream> using namespace std; my first program
[04:22] <shawnboy> zykotick9, you mean in mythtv? would that be on the frontend?
[04:22] <zykotick9> curiousx, technically you'd need a #! line to make that a real script
[04:22] <Guest37539> hii
[04:22] <zykotick9> shawnboy, frontend
[04:23] <paean_> curiousx, zykotick9, you'd also need to write echo twice, wouldn't you?
[04:23] <Seven_Six_Two> shawnboy, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/ALSA
[04:23] <paean_> echo echo "Hello world" > program.sh
[04:23] <curiousx> zykotick9: xD i just joking =P
[04:23] <Guest37539> using Ubuntu oneiric beta one.. Its asking for partial upgrade.. So should I go with it.. I have read that its not advisable to partial upgrade
[04:24] <widewake> how can i update java? http://java.com/en/download/help/linux_install.xml#selfextracting
[04:24] <Guest37539> help
[04:24] <Guest37539> using Ubuntu oneiric beta one.. Its asking for partial upgrade.. So should I go with it.. I have read that its not advisable to partial upgrade
[04:24] <zykotick9> curiousx, ;) plus the darn "bash: Hello: command not found"
[04:24] <Northwoods> Is there a keyboard shortcut for terminal window ?
[04:24] <cowo_pengen> hem ,,,
[04:25] <paean_> Northwoods, depends on your desktop, by default ctrl alt T
[04:25] <Seven_Six_Two> Guest37539, I've done it before without problems. You will have to do another one when that finishes, and keep doing it until there's no more to do. don't reboot until the end. Buyer Beware. Caution. Achtung!
[04:25] <curiousx> xD
[04:25] <Northwoods> paean_: thanks
[04:25] <Northwoods> it worked
[04:25] <cowo_pengen> there is a way to make a partition??? cause i installed without make partition
[04:26] <Guest37539> thnx Seven_Six_Two
[04:26] <curiousx> Northwoods: try Ctrl + T
[04:26] <dr_willis> cowo_pengen:  clarify that to the channel
[04:26] <Northwoods> curiousx , crtl alt T workds
[04:26] <Seven_Six_Two> cowo_pengen, you can probably resize and make a new one. try gparted or qtparted
[04:26] <Northwoods> Crtl +T doesn't
[04:27] <curiousx> yeah! i don't remember but there ya go
[04:27] <cowo_pengen> seven ,,, it cannt ,  cos just one partition in my hdd , system partition
[04:27] <pielstick> hi
[04:27] <pielstick> all
[04:27] <shawnboy> zykotick9, Seven_Six_Two I found settings page for frontend with sound. it was set to alsa. I chose scan and it gave other choices.. I changed to pulseaudio.
[04:27] <D3CRYP70R> okay im still having problem with my laptop freezing while running ubuntu any help......
[04:28] <Seven_Six_Two> cowo_pengen, oh, do it from a live cd
[04:28] <D3CRYP70R> ?....
[04:28] <cowo_pengen> oke seven lets try first ,,thank
[04:28] <curiousx> i dont see paean_ sory about that =P
[04:28] <shawnboy> oh my gosh, zykotick9 Seven_Six_Two. it worked.
[04:29] <zykotick9> shawnboy, i've been looking for ANY video output in frontend settings and can't find any!?  but i remember getting vdpau support going in myth a while ago, and can't find that setting either?!  GLAD the audio did it!!!
[04:29] <curiousx> heya! pielstick
[04:29] <Seven_Six_Two> D3CRYP70R, any flashing lights? Can you reproduce the freezing?
[04:29] <widewake> how can i update java? http://java.com/en/download/help/linux_install.xml#selfextracting
[04:30] <widewake> trying the instructions not working out
[04:31] <shawnboy> zykotick9, I had amd/ati driver isssue (apparently) before which resulted in two top halves showing in the screen instead of whole pic.
[04:31] <cowo_pengen> i used empathy,,, but i can search any list room here
[04:31] <D3CRYP70R> Seven_Six_two no none of the above... just randomly freezes every now and then screen gets glitchy
[04:31] <shawnboy> zykotick9, I was told to change from CPU+ to Slim on some setting and it fixed that.
[04:32] <zykotick9> shawnboy, i don't go near ATI/AMD I haven't for like 7+ years.  Though ATI was my 1st 3D game experience on gnu/linux.
[04:32] <Seven_Six_Two> leave top in a terminal sorted by cpu use, maybe see the offending process
[04:33] <shawnboy> I had to take it on my Dell laptop. Couldn't find a laptop at the time with nVidia
[04:33] <locojay_> will try xubuntu as they have a text based install
[04:33] <zykotick9> shawnboy, laptops with nvidia are WAY too expensive.  I think ATI has come a long way though.
[04:34] <tapout> Where are the passwords stored ?  System->Preferences->Passwords .. what file is that using?
[04:35]  * zykotick9 wishes ATI would open source it's firmware (along with the now opensource driver)
[04:35] <shawnboy> zykotick9, there have been some glitches--like usually after kernel update I have to reinstall drivers--but for most part amd drivers have done well for me.
[04:36] <zykotick9> shawnboy, that's good to hear man.
[04:39] <shawnboy> zykotick9, Seven_Six_Two , well thanks guys for the help. I'm headed out now.
[04:40] <zykotick9> shawnboy, i currently use myth with OTA HD TV and schedulesdirect for the TV listings - I only get 5 channels but it's super cool to be able to PVR  it all in HD (those mpegs get big quick though - I've NEVER gotten the transcoding to work which is a MAJOR drag
[04:40] <shawnboy> zykotick9, same use here. it will be cool with my new HDhomerun
[04:40] <tapout> Where are the passwords stored ?  System->Preferences->Passwords .. what file is that using?
[04:41] <paean_> tapout, not sure where they're stored exactly, but the frontend's name is seahorse.  Not sure if that can help you at all.
[04:41] <widewake>  how can i update java? http://java.com/en/download/help/linux_install.xml#selfextracting   i try this and nothing :\
[04:42] <zykotick9> tapout, in a terminal try "cat /etc/passwd"
[04:42] <zykotick9> tapout, but the "passwords" aren't really stored there
[04:43] <HACKhalo2> hi, i screwed up and acenedtally removed the ubuntu ndiswrapper module, and I need to reinstall it
[04:44] <dante_> hey
[04:44] <HACKhalo2> the wiki pages and stuff google pointed me to did nothing
[04:44] <paean_> HACKhalo2, sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper?
[04:44] <HACKhalo2> did that, no go
[04:45] <HACKhalo2> the kernel module is gone
[04:46] <paean_> HACKhalo2, sorry, can't help you beyond that. I think I've had the same problem with another module before, and I have yet to fix it.
[04:46] <HACKhalo2> is there a package for ubuntu kernel modules?
[04:47] <Seven_Six_Two> widewake, which step did nothing?
[04:47] <paean_> HACKhalo2, dsmesg maybe
[04:48] <Seven_Six_Two> HACKhalo2, try sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[04:48] <paean_> modprobe -- that's what I was trying to think of.
[04:49] <curiousx> HACKhalo2: a package for installing modules ?
[04:49] <HACKhalo2> Seven_Six_Two Fatal error, cannot find /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/misc/ndiswrapper.ko
[04:49] <HACKhalo2> where uname -r is the latest kernel'
[04:50] <widewake> Seven_Six_Two, all of them, though i changed file to executable manually
[04:50] <Seven_Six_Two> widewake, are you in the same directory as the downloaded file?
[04:51] <widewake> Seven_Six_Two, no
[04:51] <tapout> Old install of ubuntu, has all my passwords for chromium.  New install, how do I get the old passwords into ubuntu?
[04:51] <widewake> Seven_Six_Two, :)
[04:51] <Seven_Six_Two> widewake, and when you do  ls -l   do you see the file with the "x" permission set?
[04:51] <HACKhalo2> Seven_Six_Two, the KO file is in /kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper
[04:52] <Chheapshot> HACKhalo2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper Check the section 5 on removing the ndiswrapper. And then try installing it again
[04:52] <widewake> Seven_Six_Two,  see a few yes
[04:52] <Seven_Six_Two> widewake, rwxrwxrwx?
[04:53] <widewake> Seven_Six_Two,  drwxrwx
[04:53] <paulus68> !ndiswrapper |hackhalo2
[04:54] <Seven_Six_Two> widewake, what dir are you in? pwd will tell you
[04:54] <widewake> Seven_Six_Two,  the file is located in downloads, how to enter downloads? not sure
[04:54] <widewake> Seven_Six_Two, home user
[04:56] <Seven_Six_Two> widewake, sudo cp ~/Downloads/<javainstaller> /usr/java && cd /usr/java && sudo ./<javainstaller>
[04:56] <xenland> Hello everyone
[04:56] <Seven_Six_Two> widewake, replace <> with actual file name
[04:56] <widewake> Seven_Six_Two, k,
[04:57] <xenland> looking for a easier to configure solution for sending/recieving emails with domain support. Postfix is nearly imposible to get my Cloud VPS from Rackspace going it.
[04:57] <xenland> At best I can send emails but never recieve them, DNS is setup fine
[04:57] <Seven_Six_Two> xenland, google apps
[04:57] <xenland> Google Apps?
[04:58] <Seven_Six_Two> xenland, yes, they do domain support. 10 accounts with the free version
[04:58] <xenland> Do you have a link I could check out?
[04:58] <Seven_Six_Two> xenland, http://www.google.com/a
[04:59] <Seven_Six_Two> xenland, bottom left, under "solutions"
[04:59] <malakhi> xenland: are you able to send mail on the local host?
[05:00] <widewake> Seven_Six_Two, cp: cannot create regular file `/samet/java': No such file or directory
[05:00] <HACKhalo2> the problem I'm having is that I'm using this laptop to move the files I need to the desktop I'm trying to get ndiswrapper installed on
[05:00] <xenland> Do you think it would be possible to send emails with from my webserver box with a PHP script? I would just have to manually set the "FROM:" or somthing albet right?
[05:00] <Seven_Six_Two> widewake, no no, /usr/ is a directory. don't change that
[05:01] <widewake> Seven_Six_Two, k tried that too
[05:01] <Seven_Six_Two> widewake, only change <javainstaller> to whatever the filename is that you downloaded
[05:02] <Seven_Six_Two> widewake, there is a space before /usr
[05:02] <widewake> Seven_Six_Two, bash: cd: /usr/java: Not a directory ---->        sudo cp ~/Downloads/jre-6u27-linux-i586.bin /usr/java && cd /usr/java && sudo ./jre-6u27-linux-i586.bin
[05:02] <malakhi> xenland: depends on the PHP script. If there's no SMTP server on the localhost, the script has to be able to talk SMTP to a remote host.
[05:02] <Seven_Six_Two> widewake, can you do ls -l /usr | grep java
[05:02] <rhizmoe> ugh. ubuntu has a zombie fetish. getting sick of rebooting in order to kill processes.
[05:02] <widewake> Seven_Six_Two, k done
[05:03] <dencebemsussa> fuck
[05:03] <xenland> So basically PHP can only send using the domain name if the DNS servers were pointed to that box that contained the PHP script?
[05:03] <rhizmoe> hm?
[05:03] <paulus68> xenland:  use phpmailer
[05:04] <widewake> Seven_Six_Two, -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root 21630577 2011-09-27 22:01 java
[05:04] <xenland> thanks everyone
[05:04] <Ibis> SIFTU: I do not understand that GUI good enough. (fwbuuilder) cli seems to be the better way to do this.  I do not know what the lowercase j (jump) switch can be used for.
[05:04] <tapout> Old install of ubuntu, has all my passwords for chromium.  New install, how do I get the old passwords into ubuntu?
[05:04] <paulus68> xenland: http://phpmailer.worxware.com/
[05:05] <Seven_Six_Two> widewake, haha..ok    sudo rm /usr/java && mkdir /usr/java
[05:05] <Chheapshot> tapout: not all sure but u could try to copy the old settings from your chromium to the new install of ubuntu theyr at ~/.config/chromium/Default
[05:05] <Seven_Six_Two> widewake, get a sudo in there for the mkdir
[05:05] <widewake> Seven_Six_Two,  removed the space before user got this. cp: missing destination file operand after `/home/samet/Downloads/jre-6u27-linux-i586.bin/usr/java'
[05:05] <widewake>   
[05:05] <widewake> Seven_Six_Two,  proceed with sudo?
[05:06] <Seven_Six_Two> widewake, no, there is supposed to be a space before /usr. yeah, delete the file that's there with the first command, then make a directory with the same name, in the same place
[05:07] <tapout> Chheapshot, some time ago, they moved it all to the seahorse password management.. the Login Data sqlite file is empty
[05:07] <widewake> Seven_Six_Two,  permission deniieeed
[05:07] <widewake> Seven_Six_Two, ouch
[05:07] <Seven_Six_Two> what command was denied?
[05:07] <tapout> is there a way to have one master passowrd, and all your passwords on every computer?
[05:07] <widewake> Seven_Six_Two, mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/java': Permission denied
[05:07] <tapout> does lastpass/keepass work?
[05:07] <Seven_Six_Two> widewake, sudo mkdir /usr/java
[05:08] <widewake> Seven_Six_Two,  kk
[05:08] <Seven_Six_Two> then copy the file there
[05:08] <widewake> Seven_Six_Two,  roger, engines are on go
[05:08] <Seven_Six_Two> with sudo
[05:09] <Chheapshot> tapout: well if its possible u to log in to the old ubuntu u could always just use the chromes Building password sync. Just enable it from the settings and then login in the chromium in the new install of ubuntu and it should sync all the settings and passwords.
[05:09] <Chheapshot> build in *
[05:09] <chumbawamba> woah
[05:09] <widewake> Seven_Six_Two,  hows that?
[05:10] <chumbawamba> where am i?
[05:10] <widewake> irc chatroom chumba
[05:10] <Seven_Six_Two> widewake, do the first set of commands
[05:10] <widewake> pissing the night away
[05:10] <chumbawamba> holy crap, how did I get here?
[05:10] <widewake> Seven_Six_Two, ah
[05:10] <Seven_Six_Two> sudo cp ~/Downloads/jre-6u27-linux-i586.bin /usr/java && cd /usr/java && sudo ./jre-6u27-linux-i586.bin
[05:10] <widewake> Seven_Six_Two,  cp: missing destination file operand after `/home/samet/Downloads/jre-6u27-linux-i586.bin/usr/java'
[05:10] <widewake> Try `cp --help' for more information.
[05:10] <chumbawamba> Is this heaven? or maybe it's hell?
[05:10] <rabbi1> just installed virtualbox, how can i get windows to it ?
[05:11] <widewake> Seven_Six_Two,  for sudo cp ~/Downloads/jre-6u27-linux-i586.bin/usr/java && cd /usr/java && sudo ./jre-6u27-linux-i586.bin
[05:11] <Seven_Six_Two> widewake, put a space after .bin
[05:11] <widewake> k
[05:11] <Theishi> I recently installed a new video card with HDMI output. I plugged this into my tv and I have picture fine, but no audio. In my sound settings HDMI is an option (selected of course), and when i try to test the sound nothing happens
[05:11] <chumbawamba> am listening to latest clif high interview, anyone interested in the link?
[05:12] <Seven_Six_Two> chumbawamba, I'll bet some people in #ubuntu-offtopic would be
[05:12] <widewake> Seven_Six_Two, mm nope. space after?
[05:12] <chumbawamba> Hey, have they fixed that bug yet where when you sometimes maximize a window and it goes all white? totally annoying.
[05:12] <lmnop> I <3 UBUNtu!
[05:12] <Seven_Six_Two> widewake, look at what I pasted, and compare it to what you pasted
[05:13] <tapout> Chheapshot, what is the building password sync?  Iv'e got the sync setup but it only does my favorites
[05:13] <Seven_Six_Two> jre-6u27-linux-i586.bin/usr/java
[05:13] <Seven_Six_Two> jre-6u27-linux-i586.bin /usr/java
[05:13] <widewake> Seven_Six_Two,  lol i believe i did that.  ooh that bin. kk
[05:13] <chumbawamba> well, it was fun chatting with you.
[05:14] <HACKhalo2> is it possible to roll back from the 2.6.38-11 kernel back to 2.6.38-10, remove the -11 kernel, and reinstall it?
[05:14] <widewake> Seven_Six_Two, engines starting
[05:14] <Chheapshot> tapout: There should be a setting to sync everything. All the plugins passwords bookmarks themes. U login there with your gmail account
[05:14] <widewake> Seven_Six_Two,  landed in java
[05:15] <Seven_Six_Two> HACKhalo2, yes. install the other kernel, choose it from grub
[05:15] <Seven_Six_Two> widewake, so you're good to go?
[05:15] <widewake> Seven_Six_Two, i believe so. i shall test
[05:15] <HACKhalo2> seven_six_two, my desktop doesn't have a grub select screen (grub2 thing I believe), how would I trigger it on boot?
[05:16] <madduck> wow, I cannot believe Ubuntu really just switches a happy 10.10 user to Unity with 11.04
[05:16] <madduck> no question asked
[05:16] <madduck> how can I go back to GNOME?
[05:16] <rabbi1> guys, just installed virtualbox, how can i get windows to it ?
[05:16] <Seven_Six_Two> HACKhalo2, not sure, sorry
[05:16] <HACKhalo2> no problem
[05:16] <Seven_Six_Two> madduck, choose gnome from the login screen
[05:16] <madduck> Seven_Six_Two: aha, we have autologon…
[05:17] <Seven_Six_Two> madduck, maybe it's called classic gnome. Well then, you'll have to turn that off!
[05:17] <madduck> Seven_Six_Two: or change the default. Strangely, there is no selection possible in the login screen, I just tried…
[05:17] <Seven_Six_Two> madduck, if it's any consolation, they also switched the unhappy 10.10 users
[05:18] <madduck> so I have to "fix it" in login manager
[05:18] <madduck> Seven_Six_Two: hehe
[05:18] <curiousx> rabbi1: do you have an iso image of windows on your HDD ?
[05:18] <widewake> Seven_Six_Two, hmm java still thinks i have update 26.
[05:18] <madduck> ridiculous, just because mark or some other executive thought it was better to ride some wave…
[05:18] <curiousx> i don't know if i can help on that but...
[05:18] <rabbi1> curiousx: nope
[05:19] <Seven_Six_Two> madduck, that's the joy of what he does. you get it for free, so he doesn't have to hold back
[05:19] <widewake> Seven_Six_Two, i think if i find the path for the update, in java control panel i can set it too 27
[05:19] <curiousx> do you have a CD ?
[05:19] <rabbi1> curiousx: i got winxp cd
[05:19] <madduck> oh, and I hate how they install Ubuntu One on upgrades, even though I previously purged it
[05:19] <madduck> ubuntu is starting to taste bitterer every day…
[05:19] <madduck> :/
[05:19] <paulus68> rabbi1: insert the windows cd in your cdrom drive and launch it from there
[05:19] <digital_838> ubottu
[05:19] <Seven_Six_Two> widewake, that's beyond me now. the "which" command will show you the binary you're calling (which java)
[05:20] <curiousx> ok, run Virtualbox, create a new machine, with name Guinbug then fallow the instructions, if you have question ask me =)
[05:20] <rabbi1> paulus68: boot from cd ?
[05:20] <rabbi1> curiousx: sure, thank you ... :)
[05:20] <rabbi1> brb friends
[05:20] <lmnop> dude only ubuntu it is good, try it
[05:20] <curiousx> then i'll wirte you how to boot with de CD
[05:20] <Seven_Six_Two> madduck, have you considered gentoo or slackware?
[05:20] <paulus68> rabbi1: yes when creating a new machine you boot from cd
[05:20] <digital_838> ubottu oneric irc channel
[05:21] <paulus68> digital #ubuntu+1
[05:21] <madduck> Seven_Six_Two: I am a Debian user myself, for something like 15 years now. Ubuntu around 2008 or so was perfect for parents. Now, Debian has come a long way and Ubuntu has gone a long way, so I think I am just going to use Debian from now on.
[05:21] <digital_838> paulus68- thanks!
[05:21] <rabbi1> paulus68: sure, brb thank you
[05:21] <paulus68> rabbi1: yw
[05:21] <Seven_Six_Two> madduck, I switched to debian for my server...
[05:21] <lmnop> great unhappy user...
[05:22] <madduck> hwo do i make gdm let the user choose the session??
[05:22] <widewake> Seven_Six_Two, it tells me /usr/bin/java  .   thanks for your help appreciated, will poke around
[05:22] <lmnop> its fine, you can make more
[05:22] <lmnop> 'debian like'
[05:22] <Seven_Six_Two> maddog_, to each his own. I like unity, and if I could just get pulseaudio to start, I'd be happy!
[05:23] <bao2> how can i join fedora irc
[05:23] <bao2> help
[05:23] <tapout> Seven_Six_Two, this is redfox, come in over... *crackle*
[05:23] <madduck> Seven_Six_Two: absolutely, I am not against unity or innovation, but my mum's face suggests she just wants no changes
[05:23] <bao2> :-!
[05:23] <Seven_Six_Two> madduck, haha...my mom's the same. I just tell her to suck it up, because she can't switch it back anyhow
[05:24] <Seven_Six_Two> madduck, and I think it's easier for her using unity
[05:24] <tapout> whiskey tango foxtrot Seven_Six_Two , this is redfox.. over
[05:24] <madduck> Seven_Six_Two: I am bofh everywhere else except family ;)
[05:24] <paulus68> madduck:  if the mums are happy with a feature don't try to talk them out of it had the same with mine when she by accident activated T9spelling on her mobile
[05:25] <bao2> how can i join fedora irc
[05:25] <Seven_Six_Two> bao2, sort of the same way you got here
[05:25] <paulus68> bao2: google might be your friend here
[05:25] <madduck> okay, the craziest thing about 11.04 must be that the laptop goes off the net until someone logs in
[05:25] <madduck> network manager for the win!
[05:26] <paulus68> madduck: running 11.04 on a laptop to never had a problem with that
[05:26] <madduck> bug #1 in ubuntu is to kill microsoft, bug #2 must be to achieve the level of windows
[05:26] <madduck> liar!
[05:27] <paulus68> madduck who's a liar?
[05:27] <madduck> paulus68: ubottu is
[05:28] <madduck> Launchpad bug 2 in Ubuntu "Repeat the UI and admin mistakes of Windows, slowly, one after the other"
[05:28] <madduck> see?
[05:28] <paulus68> madduck: problem is that he's not human ;)
[05:28] <madduck> machines can (be instructed to) lie ;)
[05:29] <madduck> instead of Unity, maybe canonical should have made ubottu pass the turing test
[05:29] <madduck> anyway, I should stop ranting…
[05:29] <HACKhalo2> ok, booting into the previous kernel and trying to get ndiswrapper to work causes it to hang
[05:30] <Glitchy_> how do I create a directory...
[05:30] <Glitchy_> I'm trying to set up my vpn on ubuntu...kinda lost
[05:31] <Glitchy_> anyone? bueller?
[05:31] <Glitchy_> schweet
[05:32] <jincreator> Hi, everyone! I'm trying to share printer at Ubuntu 11.04 with Canon LP3300. When I tried to print from Mac, it asked my(Ubuntu) account and password. How can I share printer to guest?
[05:32] <StepNjump> guys, my screen keeps dimming. how can i keep it at the same intensity for longer period of time?
[05:32] <paulus68> Glitchy_: to create a directory use mkdir
[05:33] <paulus68> !vpn | Glitchy_
[05:33] <rabbi1> How can i disable this shadow effect of the "windows" in 11.04  ?
[05:34] <paulus68> rabbi1: which shadow effect
[05:34] <StepNjump> night
[05:34] <rabbi1> paulus68: application windows has got some shadow effects around it
[05:34] <max_> can someone help me configure my soundcard please? I am using HDMI, it is listed in the sound configuration, but no audio comes out
[05:35] <HACKhalo2> the ndiswrapper KO file is in the correct ubuntu directory in the kernel tree
[05:38] <prasenjeetp_> for some reason, setting up the "exclude list" of sites from the proxy settings doesnt work for me on ubuntu ... even if i put .mydomain.com in my exclude list, whatever.mydomain.com still hits the proxy server
[05:38] <max_> brb
[05:38] <bao2> 仅邀请
[05:38] <bao2> 加入 #linux 需要邀请
[05:38] <bao2> why
[05:38] <bao2> why
[05:38] <FloodBot1> bao2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:39] <bao2> ok
[05:39] <paulus68> !cn |bao2
[05:41] <seneca> hi
[05:41] <seneca> theadmin: hi
[05:41] <seneca> my vpn connection is taking too long to connect
[05:42] <linuxuz3r> what is a vpn for?
[05:43] <bao2> who can invite me join #linux
[05:44] <linuxuz3r> bao2: try ##linux
[05:44] <seneca> linuxuz3r: for conneting server
[05:44] <seneca> from machine
[05:44] <linuxuz3r> bao2: are you chinese
[05:45] <linuxuz3r> ok
[05:45] <soreau> Does anyone know what the titlebar button is called that typically does the same as titlebar double click action?
[05:45] <linuxuz3r> seneca connecting servers to what
[05:46] <seneca> linuxuz3r: from a developers machine server
[05:46] <seneca> sorry
[05:46] <bao2> i chinese
[05:46] <seneca> linuxuz3r: from a developers machine to server
[05:46] <urlin2u> soreau, maximize ?
[05:46] <bao2> :)
[05:47] <linuxuz3r> bao2: have you seen the movie shaolin 2011
[05:47] <soreau> urlin2u: No, it's usually a button represented by 4 dots
[05:47] <bao2> shaolin
[05:47] <bao2> no
[05:47] <linuxuz3r> ok was wondering if it is good
[05:47] <soreau> urlin2u: It's on some themes but I can't seem to get one that has it.. they all just go to 'custom' in the theme selector
[05:47] <bao2> ok ,i will see shaolin
[05:48] <urlin2u> soreau, not sure, lol
[05:48] <widewake> Seven_Six_Two, i found some instructions, removed previous version, now  on step five im getting no such file or directory any idea? if your able to tinker some more https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/java#TOC-INSTALL-MANUALLY
[05:48] <celltech> What's our version of yahoo messenger
[05:48] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[05:49] <silv3r_m00n> totem is not playing vcds and .dat files, how to make it play ?
[05:49] <caesar_> how do you install fonts?
[05:50] <linuxuz3r> is this site up
[05:50] <linuxuz3r> www.linux.com
[05:50] <rwebb> Question about install
[05:51] <caesar_> im listening
[05:51] <widewake> trying to DL java 6 update 27, ive fallowed all steps till step 5, im getting no such directory or file even though i just created directory. help plz https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/java#TOC-INSTALL-MANUALLY
[05:51] <bao2> > Time.now
[05:51] <linuxuz3r> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts
[05:51] <celltech> Ok. What drivers do I need to make my video camera a webcam
[05:52] <rwebb> I installed Ubuntu 11.4 to run along side of Windows Vista and now windows will not boot ??
[05:52] <caesar_> linuxuz3r: gratsi
[05:52] <urlin2u> rwebb, try sudo update-grub in ubuntu
[05:53] <rwebb> OK
[05:53] <The_BROS> I installed Talika applet into panel, but my panels has dissapeared. How to uninstull that app or how to run Synaptic?
[05:53] <linuxuz3r> rwebb: what grub version did you use
[05:53] <linuxuz3r> install
[05:53] <urlin2u> rwebb, look for vista to show in the terminal.
[05:54] <linuxuz3r> The_BROS: run gnome in failsafe
[05:54] <The_BROS> linuxuz3r: and then?
[05:54] <The_BROS> linuxuz3r: I will try
[05:54] <linuxuz3r> or delete every .gnome .gnome* folder you have in your home directory
[05:55] <The_BROS> linuxuz3r: but how it will be working after I delete?
[05:56] <rwebb> ok, ran sudo update-grub, this is the results Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-11-generic
[05:56] <rwebb> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.38-11-generic
[05:56] <rwebb> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-8-generic
[05:56] <rwebb> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.38-8-generic
[05:56] <rwebb> Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
[05:56] <rwebb> Found Windows Recovery Environment (loader) on /dev/sda1
[05:56] <rwebb> Found Windows Vista (loader) on /dev/sda2
[05:56] <rwebb> done
[05:56] <Flannel> rwebb: in the future, please use pastebin.  Thanks.
[05:57] <rwebb> Flannel- sorry new at this
[05:57] <Flannel> rwebb: No worries.
[05:57] <Dimitri_Paolino> hi
[05:57] <Dimitri_Paolino> how can I find the linux version inside the source directory?
[05:57] <urlin2u> rwebb, looks like you found the recovery sda1, and the OS sda2, do you sy=till have a recovery partiton or is sda1 the boot partition.
[05:57] <urlin2u> still*
[05:58] <Dimitri_Paolino> does anyone know that?
[05:58] <rwebb> urlin2u - not sure ?
[06:00] <bao2> :)
[06:00] <urlin2u> rwebb, I suspect sda2 is the OS I would boot that from grub
[06:01] <rwebb> urlin2u - thanks, how do I do that ?
[06:02] <ranjan> ilug-kochin
[06:03] <urlin2u> rwebb, as of now when you boot you should be getting a grub menu. You said vista didn't boot, ubuntu is so how did you get to ubuntu?
[06:04] <urlin2u> rwebb, that update-grub command rewrote the grub menu to include the 2 vista refrences.
[06:04] <rwebb> urlin2u, when I re-start my computer I do not get an option to choose, Ubuntu loads
[06:04] <urlin2u> rwebb, have you rebooted since you ran the update-grub?
[06:04] <rwebb> no
[06:05] <paulus68> Dimitri_Paolino lsb_release -a
[06:05] <rwebb> I'll try re-booting now
[06:05] <urlin2u> rwebb, try it and make sure you look close vista will show twice one wil be named recovery I would not choose that one, as it may trigger a recovery.
[06:08] <ScottSanbar> Please see the following forum post to see if you can help me:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11292304#post11292304
[06:08] <proxyman_> can someone tell me hint or something where i should start to look. i have now working squid server. All computer in my LAN uses that squid and its fast, but if i use my proxy from WAN address its veeery veery slow (like 5min opens half of the page).
[06:08] <rwebb> urlin2u- just re-booted, still no option to choose windows
[06:11] <choutib> hey
[06:12] <choutib> how to join a chat rom
[06:12] <proxyman_>    /join #some_room_name
[06:13] <urlin2u> rwebb, run this script in Ubuntu and pastebin the RESULTS.txt.  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[06:13] <rwebb> OK
[06:14] <xust-> How exactly am i supposed to mount a new drive in 11.04?
[06:14] <xust-> i'm definitely a noob, and googling comes up with everything but what I need to do.
[06:15] <xust-> i'm not trying to partition it
[06:15] <xust-> i'm not trying to install ubuntu to it
[06:17] <urlin2u> xust-, new drive? details would be helpful, is it formatted, is it  internal or external, to startwith
[06:17] <xust-> it's formatted NTFS, internal
[06:17] <tapout> is there a way to get the harddrive serial number from a running machine?  I have 4 drives, and i want to make sure I pull out the right drive when i reboot
[06:17] <tapout> shutdown
[06:17] <urlin2u> xust-, go to home and look in the left panel to see if it shows if so click it.
[06:18] <xust-> ...left panel?
[06:18] <urlin2u> xust-, open home
[06:18] <xust-> in the file manager?!
[06:18] <xust-> nothing shows
[06:19] <rwebb> urlin2u- I must be doing something wrong because I ran http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ and it said no such file or directory ?
[06:19] <xust-> it shows home/desktop/file system/network/trash | shortcuts to useful directories
[06:19] <xust-> file system = the drive it's installed on...
[06:20] <urlin2u> rwebb, did you down load it and extract it to the desktop and run this command  sudo bash ~/Desktop/boot_info_script.sh
[06:21] <urlin2u> xust-, home-devices, have just installed it?
[06:21] <urlin2u> you*
[06:21] <xust-> what.
[06:22] <urlin2u> xust-, huh
[06:22] <MeirD> Hello
[06:22] <MeirD> I accidently clicked some key on my laptop and it took me to a shell screen
[06:23] <MeirD> How can I return to the GUI?
[06:23] <urlin2u> MeirD, alt-f7
[06:23] <HACKhalo2> ^
[06:23] <MeirD> thnx!!
[06:23] <MeirD> What is that mode?
[06:23] <urlin2u> MeirD, usually it is two keys alt-f1
[06:24] <urlin2u> MeirD, tty
[06:24] <munsking> does anyone know a good very small but modern distro? (i tried damn small linux but i heard that's outdated)
[06:24] <munsking> all i need is networking + gui + java really
[06:24] <MeirD> thnx
[06:24] <urlin2u> munsking, bodhilinux
[06:25] <munsking> ooh looks nice, tnx
[06:25] <rwebb> ulin2u - not sure what I'm supposed to download
[06:25] <urlin2u> munsking, puppylinux and various pupplets are pretty small
[06:26] <sdperez79> how do i install adobe flash player on ubuntu gz zip file i already extracted it
[06:26] <urlin2u> rwebb, in the link it says download boot info script, do that then extract it to the desktop and copy and paste that command to a terminal.
[06:26] <sdperez79> i have a folder called usr and a .so file??
[06:27] <Polah> sdperez79: You can install flash player from the repositories
[06:27] <thauriswulfa> HELP: Swap space is not getting used in xubuntu ,its already swapped on in gparted. How do I enable it? xubuntu also deny to hibernate,reporting less swap space.
[06:27] <munsking> urlin2u: bodhilinux is 1.5 gigs, damn small linux is 50mb xD so it's not all that small
[06:27] <munsking> but puppylinux sounds better, 100mb
[06:28] <urlin2u> munsking, yep it depends on what you want really.
[06:28] <sdperez79> i need this one for steam
[06:29] <Polah> sdperez79: With the flash plugin from the repos you can view videos on the steampowered website, just not in the actual Steam client.
[06:29] <munsking> urlin2u: well what i want to try is to make a portable system that will run on any computer just for browsing + minecraft(server)
[06:29] <rabbi1> curiousx: FATAL: No bootable medium found ! system halted
[06:29] <urlin2u> munsking, puppy is very good and there a a variety of remixes called pupplets, I think browser puppy is the smallest.
[06:29] <munsking> on linux cause i wrote some scripts for that server that would be nice to have built in
[06:29] <munsking> hmmkay, tnx
[06:31] <urlin2u> munsking, puppy is set up to be portable, works great on a thumb.
[06:31] <munsking> urlin2u: does puppy have apt-get as well? cause that'd be great
[06:32] <urlin2u> thauriswulfa, if the swap is at the least equal to the ram hibernate may work.
[06:33] <Morfeus^> Good Morning
[06:34] <thenickperson> dddddddddddddddddddd
[06:34] <Athenon> can someone recommend a tutorial for an ipsec/l2tp SERVER tutorial for 11.04?
[06:35] <paulus68> munsking: you can also have Tiny Core Linux   http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/38425
[06:35] <Glitchy_> okay I need help...anyone out there?
[06:35] <urlin2u> munsking, it has a package retriever like synaptic, forget the name.
[06:35] <paulus68> !help|Glitchy
[06:35] <urlin2u> munsking, puppy runs in root as well,
[06:36] <thauriswulfa> urlin2u: actually the uuid was different in fstab
[06:36] <Glitchy_> I'm am trying to set up a vpn on ubuntu 11, i have hit a snag
[06:36] <urlin2u> thauriswulfa, you get it fixed then?
[06:36] <munsking> urlin2u: "runs in root" what do you mean by that?
[06:37] <urlin2u> munsking, super user basically no sudo
[06:37] <dageriv> my plug and play usb mouse periodically does not send input to ubuntu. very weird. started happening after i tried another wireless usb mouse.
[06:37] <ikonia> munsking: urlin2u maybe take the puppychat to #puppylinux please.
[06:37] <paulus68> munsking: http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/6702/1
[06:37] <Glitchy_> ....
[06:37] <rwebb> urlin2u- I downloaded and extracted to the desktop, ran the command and it said "Command not found"
[06:37] <munsking> paulus68: thanks :)
[06:38] <paulus68> munsking: your welcome
[06:38] <urlin2u> rwebb, you copied and pasted this command? sudo bash ~/Desktop/boot_info_script.sh
[06:38] <pahnin>  i cudnt boot ubuntu 11.10 from usb, tried unetbootin, live usb install, universal... etc
[06:38] <rwebb> yes
[06:39] <pahnin> someone plz help
[06:39] <urlin2u> rwebb, not sure what to say it always works.
[06:39] <rwebb> I'll try again
[06:39] <urlin2u> rwebb, you extracted the download comes in a zip.
[06:39] <ikonia> pahnin: try the channel #ubuntu+1 for 11.10 support disussion
[06:40] <pahnin> okay thanx
[06:40] <dageriv> how can I check if theres a problem with my usb mouse? like if theres something weing with the circuitry or something
[06:40] <dageriv> *weird
[06:40] <Glitchy_> paulus any help?
[06:41] <ikonia> Glitchy_: you've still not told us the problem
[06:42] <Glitchy_> I did, it was way up there...
[06:42] <ikonia> Glitchy_: no, you said "I'm trying to setup a vpn, I've hit a snag" that explains nothing.
[06:42] <Glitchy_> I sorry it was sent just to paulus...hang on
[06:42] <Glitchy_> trying to move files from dir to dir and the destination folder is locked
[06:42] <ikonia> Glitchy_: thats fine, paulus68 can help you then.
[06:44] <paulus68> Glitchy, ikonia I can help on the how to make a dir not an expert on vpn though
[06:45] <ikonia> !pm > Glitchy_
[06:45] <Glitchy_> the current problem is transferring files from one dir to another...I have a walk through just can't move the files
[06:45] <ikonia> Glitchy_: where are you trying to move files from and to
[06:45] <Glitchy_> ikonia, why did you just pm me that?
[06:46] <ikonia> Glitchy_: because you sent me a pm
[06:46] <Glitchy_> I just messaged, i thought a query was a pm
[06:46] <dr_willis> Glitchy_:  like this?
[06:46] <Glitchy_> yeah
[06:46] <dr_willis> thats not a pm
[06:47] <kai_> Is it possible to use the indicator-cpufreq in xUbuntu?
[06:47] <Glitchy_> anyway, back to the issue at hand...that's what i thought...anyway, trying to move a file from my download folder, to a folder in the etc. dir
[06:47] <dr_willis> your client just flagged the line with your nick in it
[06:47] <ikonia> Glitchy_: where are you trying to move files, from and to
[06:47] <Glitchy_> this room must be lagging
[06:48] <thenickperson> I have an issue with conky, can someone please help me out?
[06:48] <ikonia> thenickperson: explain the issue, it's like saying "I have a fixfor conky" - it tells you nothing
[06:48] <dr_willis> Glitchy_:  whats the exact command line you are using also.
[06:48] <Glitchy_>  /msg
[06:48] <Glitchy_> what command should i use?
[06:48] <ikonia> Glitchy_: when you "/msg" someone - that is a pm
[06:49] <ikonia> Glitchy_: where are you trying to move files FROM and TO
[06:49] <Glitchy_> It doesn't show it as such on my sys...dammit
[06:49] <paulus68> thenickperson: check out this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865&highlight=Conkey
[06:49] <dr_willis> Glitchy_:  whats the copy command you are doing.
[06:49] <Chheapshot> Glitchy_: sound like a problem with permissions
[06:49] <Glitchy_> tried cut, copy, and then tried running through the term mv file to des...none have worked
[06:49] <pete_> sup
[06:50] <Glitchy_> probably is, just not sure how to fix it
[06:50] <ikonia> Glitchy_: listen very carefully
[06:50] <Chheapshot> sudo ..?
[06:50] <ikonia> Glitchy_: where are you moving files FROM and TO
[06:50] <ikonia> Glitchy_: what directories
[06:50] <dr_willis> Glitchy_:  whats the EXACT mv command you tried
[06:50] <pete_> I'm going to do a disk dump (dd) but how do I find out what the disk name is (sda, sdb, sdb1 etc?)
[06:50] <Derpy_> .
[06:50] <thenickperson> alright, sorry, just used to asking first. anyway, I'm trying to get conky to start when I log in. I can start conky whenever, and it works fine, right on top of my desktop. my issue is getting it to run and display when I'm logging in. there are tutorials online that say to put "sleep 10 && conky" in your login items, or in a shell script that's in your login items, but it doesn't work. I can just start "conky" on startup, but when nautilus opens, i
[06:50] <celltech> Is there a generic driver to make all cameras work as a web cam
[06:50] <ikonia> celltech: no
[06:50] <Glitchy_> mv home..../file et/file
[06:51] <paulus68> ikonia from download folder to etc folder is he trying to copy something
[06:51] <dr_willis> pete_:  sudo fdisk -l    is one way
[06:51] <ikonia> Glitchy_: give us the EXACT command you used or tell us where you are moving files from and to
[06:51] <rwebb> Ulin2u - yeah I extracted the file to the desktop - package had 2 files the boot_info_script.sh and a change log
[06:51] <popey> pete_: disk utility
[06:51] <celltech> Then I wonder why my video camera has a PC cam option if it's not gonna work
[06:52] <popey> celltech: because the manufacturer assumes "PC = Windows PC"
[06:52] <celltech> Well they should di
[06:52] <celltech> die
[06:52] <paulus68> thenickperson: check out the link I sent you this covers it all also your question is answered there
[06:52] <dr_willis> it may have windows drivers also
[06:52] <Glitchy_> mv home/name/home/downloads/file etc/vpn/
[06:52] <Glitchy_> exact command
[06:52] <ikonia> thenickperson: increase the sleep to 30 as a test
[06:52] <ikonia> Glitchy_: put sudo infront of it
[06:52] <popey> ikonia: still wont work
[06:52] <Glitchy_> I'm running in root
[06:53] <hacked_kernel> how to keep maximized window controls always shown in the global menu?
[06:53] <ikonia> popey: the sleep command
[06:53] <popey> it needs a leading / on home and on etc
[06:53] <ikonia> Glitchy_: you're not
[06:53] <dr_willis> Glitchy_:  your path is also wrong
[06:53] <ikonia> popey: I'm assuming he's just messed up copy and pasting to us as he's done 10 times so far
[06:53] <Glitchy_> what's the lead supposed to be
[06:53] <popey> fair enough
[06:53] <thenickperson> paul: I appreciate it, but the thing is, my conky script is BASED off the script here, which would always work for me on 10.04 (on 11.10 now). hm, I don't know if I tried a delay that large, good idea.
[06:53] <popey> assumption...
[06:53] <ikonia> popey: you are correct, but I've asked 10 times for stuff and it comes back different each time, so I can only assume it's a copy and paste error
[06:54] <popey> ikonia: well, indeed, downloads would be Downloads, so its not a copy/paste
[06:54] <dr_willis> sudo cp /path/to/foo /path/to/bar
[06:54] <thenickperson> is there any reason why "sleep 10 && conky" would work after logging in, and "conky" would work as a startup item, but "sleep 10 && conky" won't work as a startup item?
[06:54] <Glitchy_> What's the correct path then?
[06:54] <ikonia> popey: sorry, I meant "re-typing" as it's obvious he's re-typing rather than actually copy and paste
[06:54] <pete_> thanks popey, another quick question
[06:54] <dr_willis> Glitchy_:  paths begin eith / the way i showed nirmally
[06:54] <fidyduce> I having trouble making a bootable thumbdrive... all the usb pendrive pages produce nothing... anyone know a sure fire method?
[06:55] <ikonia> thenickperson: I'm not suggesting you keep that sleep time at 30, just run it as a test
[06:55] <somsip> thenickperson: doesn't conkyhave to be started in the background: sleep 10 && conky & ?
[06:55] <Glitchy_> dr can I just message you ikonia is being a dick
[06:55] <ikonia> Glitchy_: drop the language and attitude, that is uncalled for
[06:55] <dr_willis> Glitchy_:  you need to cut and paste the exact command line you are using
[06:55] <pete_> dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdc/image.img   if sda is a harddrive in the machine and sdc is a USB harddrive correct?
[06:56] <Glitchy_> your the one with attitude dude, i did nothing to you, i accidentally messaged you and you have done nothing but not help me
[06:56] <dr_willis> and i showed.an examply of how to use sudo cp
[06:56] <ikonia> pete_: no
[06:56] <popey> pete_: NO
[06:56] <ikonia> pete_: dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdc
[06:56] <popey> pete_:
[06:56] <thenickperson> I'm going to try "sleep 30 && conky" as a startup item. thanks, brb
[06:56] <ikonia> ooh, sorry popey didn't realise you where helping.
[06:56] <popey> pete_: what do you want to achieve
[06:56] <popey> pete_: do you want to make an image?
[06:56] <pete_> i want to backup one harddrive onto another as an image
[06:56] <popey> pete_: if so you need to mount sdc up somewhere
[06:57] <ikonia> Glitchy_: I've asked you for information specfically 10 times, I'm trying to help you as is dr_willis
[06:57] <popey> pete_: if its a usb stick/drive its probably already mounted under /media somwhere
[06:57] <ikonia> Glitchy_: we need the exact info you are using to give you help.
[06:57] <pete_> I have a USB key in there, I've booted Ubuntu, I have the internal HDD I want to backup onto a second USB drive attached
[06:57] <dr_willis> Glitchy_:  paste it to the channel. i may have to leave at any time
[06:57] <Glitchy_> what I said was almost exact
[06:57] <popey> pete_: so something like dd if=/dev/sda of=/media/diskname/image.img
[06:57] <ikonia> Glitchy_: "almost exact" is not exact, we need EXACT
[06:57] <Glitchy_> I no longer have the terminal open
[06:58] <pete_> ok, how do I find /media name of drive?
[06:58] <Glitchy_> I can't give you exact
[06:58] <thenickperson> open your terminal and press the up arrow until you see that command
[06:58] <popey> pete_: type "mount", it will tell you where it's mounted
[06:58] <dr_willis> open new term. use history command to see Glitchy_
[06:58] <popey> pete_: look for your usb drive in the output
[06:58] <ikonia> Glitchy_: then where exactly do you want to move files from and to
[06:58] <Glitchy_> I can't give you exacts, it doesn't show
[06:58] <ikonia> Glitchy_: then where exactly do you want to move files from and to
[06:59] <Glitchy_> from my download folder to etc/openvpn
[06:59] <bao1> :)
[06:59] <thenickperson> also, about my problem, "sleep 30 && conky" still isn't working. :| the delay is in seconds by default, yes? it's odd, it works fine when I use terminal AFTER I've logged in, even with sleep before it.
[06:59] <ikonia> Glitchy_: what is the name of the file you want to move
[06:59] <ikonia> thenickperson: correct
[06:59] <Oxi> how to restore the graphical setting in command mode
[06:59] <pete_> should sda be mounted?
[06:59] <thenickperson> I'm thinking it's a weird priority issue between nautilus and conky
[06:59] <urlin2u> rwebb, I have to crash but the script posted is helpful, you can also post the problem at the Ubuntu forums, past the script there as well if that is your choice.
[06:59] <ikonia> thenickperson: so it sounds as if it's the actual startup that's not getting executed.
[06:59] <popey> pete_: if thats your boot drive, yes
[06:59] <ikonia> thenickperson: change the conky command to something simple like "touch /var/tmp/testfile"
[06:59] <popey> pete_: I wouldn't be doing a dd of my boot drive though
[07:00] <ikonia> thenickperson: see if /var/tmp/testfile gets created at login, then you know the script is being executed
[07:00] <Oxi> how to restore the graphical setting in command mode
[07:00] <popey> pete_: personally I'd use clonezilla to do what you're trying to achieve
[07:00] <popey> pete_: you make a clonezilla stick/cd and boot from it, it has a nice menu for doing this kind of thing
[07:00] <Glitchy_> openvpn-US.config
[07:00] <pete_> what do you mean you wouldn't dd your boot drive?
[07:00] <rwebb> urlin2u- Thanks for the help, already posted a question to Ubuntu Help
[07:00] <popey> pete_: correct
[07:01] <ikonia> Glitchy_: so "sudo cp ~/Downloads/openvpn-US.config /etc/openvpn"
[07:01] <thenickperson> I don't see conky in my processes. and hm, that test file is an awesome idea, thanks, I'll try it.
[07:01] <Glitchy_> can I use mv instead?
[07:01] <dr_willis> Glitchy_:  use cp first
[07:01] <fidyduce> Anyone know a sure fire method towards making a bootable usb?
[07:01] <pete_> popey, why not?
[07:01] <ikonia> Glitchy_: use copy incase it goes wrong
[07:01] <hacked_kernel> how to keep maximized window controls always shown in the global menu?
[07:01] <popey> fidyduce: unetbootin is pretty reliable for me
[07:01] <popey> pete_: because the disk is mounted and will change whilst you're copying it
[07:01] <Oxi> how to restore the graphical setting in command mode
[07:02] <popey> pete_: thus rendering the image inconsistent
[07:02] <Chheapshot> fidyduce: what kind of usb are u trying to make?
[07:02] <Glitchy_> "cp: cannot stat `/home/silence/Downloads/openvpn-US.config': No such file or directory
[07:02] <Glitchy_> "
[07:02] <pete_> popey, no, I have booted into a USB key, I am dd'ing the internal hard drive
[07:02] <Glitchy_> I know it's there
[07:02] <pete_> it is bootable.
[07:02] <ikonia> Glitchy_: so the file is not called openvpn-US.config then
[07:02] <Glitchy_> I can clearly see
[07:02] <fidyduce> Popey> thanks man...
[07:02] <dr_willis> Glitchy_: you spelt  somthing wrong
[07:02] <popey> pete_: ah, okay. cool then
[07:02] <ikonia> Glitchy_: ls -la /home/silence/Downloads/openvpn-US.config
[07:03] <pete_> ok, it now looks like
[07:03] <dr_willis> Glitchy_:  case is impornrant
[07:03] <Glitchy_> ls being list...what is -la?
[07:03] <ikonia> Glitchy_: it's just options that show more detail
[07:03] <dr_willis> bbl off to work.
[07:03] <Glitchy_> so casing on words does matter?
[07:03] <dr_willis> Glitchy_:  yes
[07:03] <thenickperson> I tried "touch ~/Desktop/test.txt" as a startup item, and it didn't work. I paste it into terminal after logging in, and it works. seems like commands don't want to run when I log in?
[07:03] <popey> pete_: I have to go, sorry
[07:03] <dr_willis> i just said it did.
[07:03] <pete_> dd if=/dev/sda of=/media/f78998jhf...9b/image.img  where the ... is a bunch of letters and numbers, correct?
[07:03] <Glitchy_> that would explain it..
[07:04] <ikonia> Glitchy_: this is why we keep asking you for exact information
[07:04] <Chheapshot> Glitchy_: try using tab to fill the rest of the file name
[07:04] <pete_> cheers for your help popey
[07:04] <Oxi> can any one help me ?how to restore the graphical setting in command mode
[07:04] <popey> pete_: np
[07:04] <ikonia> thenickperson: ok, so now we know the issue, it's not your script or conky, it's that startup items aren't happening
[07:04] <dr_willis> CAse mAttERs
[07:04] <dr_willis> ;)  bbl
[07:04] <Glitchy_> the silence was capatilized...had no idea it was til now
[07:04] <proxyman_> Oxi:  what ubuntu you have?
[07:04] <pete_> popey, just befor eyou go can you scan that line for me.  it is right now?
[07:05] <Oxi> <proxyman 11.4
[07:05] <subcool> !unity
[07:05] <thenickperson> ikonia: that's odd, because I added "pidgin" myself as a startup item, and it works fine. :|
[07:05] <Glitchy_> the silence was capatilized...had no idea it was til now
[07:05] <Oxi> <proxyman 11.4
[07:06] <proxyman_> Oxi:  command mode you are referring cli = command line interface? well you can search gdm or lightmd and restart that service
[07:06] <Glitchy_> whoops posted that twice...is there a way to search for a file on this like windows?
[07:06] <pete_> ikonia, is this correct:  dd if=/dev/sda of=/media/f78998jhf...9b/image.img  where the ... is a bunch of letters and numbers, correct?
[07:06] <Oxi> ok
[07:07] <thenickperson> ikonia: what should I try now?
[07:07] <popey> pete_: looks good
[07:08] <pete_> thanks, popey, had to pop a sudo in there... but seems to be working  cheers
[07:08] <proxyman_> Oxi: sudo service gdm restart
[07:08] <Oxi> <proxyman thanks
[07:08] <thenickperson> ikonia: could this be an issue with permissions?
[07:08] <administrator__> this?
[07:08] <proxyman_> Oxi: im not now front of linux so i cant test it but it should work
[07:09] <ikonia> thenickperson: I don't think so (although possible)
[07:09] <proxyman_> Oxi: other way is sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:09] <ikonia> thenickperson: using startup option, are you putting the commands in direct or using a script ?
[07:09] <proxyman_> Oxi: you are using gnome right?
[07:10] <proxyman_> Oxi: or kde?
[07:10] <thenickperson> ikonia: directly. however, I did use shell scripts as well (I put the bash thing on the first line, and they had the right permissions) and that still didn't work.
[07:10] <ikonia> thenickperson: could you show me "ls -la" on that script please.
[07:11] <thenickperson> ikonia: I don't have a script right now, should I write/copy one for conky
[07:11] <ikonia> thenickperson: the reason I'm asking this is if you get a script working that works fine and tested, and then ask startup to call it, if it doesn't work, you know it's not being called, rather than being called and not working
[07:12] <ikonia> thenickperson: just narrowing it down
[07:12] <rabbi1> how can i get shokwave flash plugin?
[07:12] <thenickperson> ikonia: awesome, makes sense, I'll try it, thanks
[07:13] <thenickperson> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/nonfree
[07:13] <thenickperson> includes flash
[07:15] <thenickperson> ikonia: I have a script that's exactly this:
[07:15] <thenickperson> #! /bin/bash/
[07:15] <thenickperson> sleep 12
[07:15] <thenickperson> conky && conky -c conkyrc2;
[07:16] <thenickperson> (sorry, didn't realize that would be in multiple messages)
[07:17] <jojo__> any body know about webcontent filtering in ubuntu beside squidGuard
[07:17] <rabbi1> thenickperson: thanks :)
[07:17] <jojo__> it there another webfiltering in ubuntu
[07:18] <paulus68> thenickperson: just sent you a pm with the specs of the conky bash script
[07:19] <zykes-> if i get an error when checking a errorous filesystem saying that fsck is restarting that means what ?
[07:19] <thenickperson> paulus68: thanks!
[07:19] <paulus68> thenickperson: according to page 92 of this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865&highlight=conky&page=92
[07:19] <paulus68> thenickperson: YW
[07:20] <thenickperson> paulus68: one question. in the else part of that, there are references to three conky startup scripts. I just use .conkyrc, is that alright?
[07:21] <thenickperson> paulus68: also, why "killall conky"?
[07:21] <arun__> wonder why nobody is logging onto android-dev lately?
[07:21] <rapier> hi there, im having trouble installing a driver for the intel n 1000 ive tried loads of stuff ive read on forums and the ubuntu site, im running 10.10 can anyone help me please?
[07:22] <danishbacker> hi is there any system wide equalizer for ubuntu otherthan pulseaudio
[07:22] <rapier> thats the intel wireless n 1000
[07:22] <danishbacker> sound quality is not good for pulseaudio
[07:23] <paulus68> thenickperson: you just use 1 then as this is an example, if there is a conky running these instances will be killed first before launching a fresh one
[07:24] <thenickperson> paulus68: do I just add that script to startup items and log in? and ah, thanks, I realize that guy uses 3 configs while I just use one
[07:24] <thenickperson> danishbacker: pulseaudio has its annoying issues. have you tried alsamixer?
[07:25] <paulus68> thenickperson: yes and as mentioned before this is an example, if you have the time to go through this post on the forum then you might some nice and interesting things that you can do with conky
[07:25] <paulus68> thenickperson: brb
[07:25] <thenickperson> paulus68: thanks, I'll try this out now
[07:25] <shar> Привет
[07:28] <arun__> is android-dev down or something? i have not been able to see anybody logging in for quite a few days
[07:28] <thenickperson> paulus68: I logged in with the script, but conky just did what it would do without sleep. it displays the moment I log in to my account, and stays open, but is completely hidden once nautilus starts the desktop.
[07:29] <iSeeDeadPixels> hey
[07:29] <phobelexx> install openbravo issue
[07:29] <phobelexx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/698344/
[07:29] <phobelexx> can anyone please help
[07:30] <thenickperson> paulus68: going to try again, this time with sleep and conky in a shell script
[07:31] <dr_willis>  i always make a startconky.sh script ;)
[07:31] <thenickperson> paulus68: whoah, it's working apparently! o_o
[07:32] <paulus68> thenickperson: glad to hear that
[07:32] <Glitchy_> dammit i need more help...i can't find a ca.crt file. how can i run a search via terminal?
[07:32] <thenickperson> thanks for your help!
[07:32] <dr_willis> conky has learned some new tricks over the last year or two
[07:32] <thenickperson> is there a way I can have conky wait until nautilus has opened instead? say, to optimize how soon it starts, and to avoid issues with nautilus taking unusually long to open.
[07:33] <thenickperson> rather, know when nautilus has control of the desktop
[07:33] <pete_> hey, if I do a disk dump (dd) it only copies the files right, like I don't need a disk bigger than the HDD?
[07:33] <dr_willis> Glitchy_:  sudo updatedb     then  locate filename
[07:33] <Glitchy_> so: sudo updatedb ca.crt
[07:33] <dr_willis> pete_:  ut does the whole hd. empty spave and all
[07:34] <paulus68> thenickperson: I think adapt the sleep might be able to help you
[07:34] <dr_willis> Glitchy_:  no.. its 2 cimmands
[07:34] <Glitchy_> sudo updatedb locate ca.crt
[07:34] <pete_> shit
[07:34] <Glitchy_> o gotcha ok
[07:34] <vlt> Hello. Any idea why I get "passwd: Authentication token manipulation error \n passwd: password unchanged" when I want to change the password by typing "passwd" as root?
[07:34] <pete_> how do I stop it?
[07:34] <thenickperson> paulus68: I mean, I can just change the value for sleep to anything, I just thought that would be a cool hack if possible
[07:34] <dr_willis> pete_:  ctrl c
[07:35] <Glitchy_> hmmm....
[07:35] <dr_willis> pete_:  dding a 100gb filesystem takes up 100gb
[07:35] <Glitchy_> I don't think that's the right one...how many ubuntu ca.crt
[07:35] <paulus68> thenickperson: yes
[07:35] <dr_willis> pete_:  even if the fs is empty
[07:35] <Glitchy_> how many ca.crt's does ubuntu have?
[07:36] <dr_willis> no idea what ca.crt even us
[07:36] <dr_willis> is for
[07:36] <Glitchy_> certificate file...I think I just will try it and see what happens
[07:36] <Glitchy_> thanks for the assist again dr w
[07:37] <dr_willis> Glitchy_:  you may want tobe reading somebash tutorials soon. ;)
[07:38] <Glitchy_> lol I know it, i'm terrible with this stuff...to unlock a folder it's sudo 777 something lol
[07:38] <damno> can I use the same swap partition for two different verions of ubu installations?
[07:38] <thenickperson> paulus68: well this does work, thanks
[07:38] <Peetz0r> I use sslh to run ssh and https over port 443. Connecting to ssh over 443 takes way longer than over port 22. Can this be fixed, and how?
[07:38] <ikonia> Glitchy_: what folder are you trying to change permissions on
[07:38] <dr_willis> Glitchy_:  go read the tutorials NOW i think... :)
[07:38] <Glitchy_> lol can you link me?
[07:39] <Glitchy_> /etc/openvpn/keys
[07:39] <teweWork> default encoding in ubuntu is UTF-8 and that's fine, but how can I tell to cat (or the terminal?) that the file I want to print is in ISO-8859-2?
[07:39] <Glitchy_> it's owned by root...
[07:39] <ikonia> Glitchy_: best to keep that locked for security reasons
[07:39] <ikonia> Glitchy_: use sudo to copy the files in.
[07:39] <thenickperson> I'm curious, is there any way to start a program as a startup item so that it doesn't open any windows, or minimizes them when it starts? maybe a command line flag?
[07:39] <Glitchy_> okay, i'll do that
[07:39] <dr_willis> damno:  if you dont use the suspend ir hibernate stuff. yes
[07:39] <ikonia> thenickperson: depends on the software, some can run in a daemon mode
[07:39] <Peetz0r> thenickperson: some programs have that. try programname --help in the terminal
[07:40] <damno> dr_willis: I thought the same.. thanks
[07:40] <Glitchy_> thanks, still need a link to those tuts dr w if you can send it my way, that way I don't have to bug ya guys every five seconds
[07:40] <p896gbm> does anybone here have xvidcap working on ubuntu? i'm completely at a loss on how to get sound to work
[07:40] <dr_willis> Glitchy_:  hit up google or delicious.com for bash shell tutorials
[07:40] <dr_willis> !shell
[07:41] <curiousx> Glitchy_: and also see "/j #bash
[07:41] <thenickperson> good idea. I'm curious if I can do this in pidgin (and maybe firefox). I tried pidgin --help, but didn't find anything that looks useful
[07:41] <Glitchy_> bash shell, got it
[07:42] <dr_willis> Glitchy_:  see delicious.com/dr_willis also
[07:42] <dr_willis> my bookmarks
[07:42] <ikonia> thenickperson: for some tools you can also do -minimised for window positioning, which essentially is start minimised, but it's only a few
[07:43] <thenickperson> awesome, thanks
[07:44] <thenickperson> also, does anyone know of a plugin for pidgin that resizes the height of the contact list so that it's never taller than the actual list of contacts being displayed (like you can do with trillian on windows or adium on a mac)?
[07:44] <ikonia> thenickperson: may want to try #pidgin for that
[07:44] <Glitchy_> okay it's not working, im over this for the night
[07:45] <Glitchy_> later and thanks for your help
[07:45] <thenickperson> ikonia: aw, I found a post on it but the link to the plugin 404s. :| thanks
[07:50] <Ibis> Is there by any chance an easier way to redirect request to port 80, to a different port? Like if I running apache on port 8080,  I would like to make all requests from port 80 to go to port 8080
[07:51] <dr_willis> Ibis: like a ssh tunnel?
[07:51] <curiousx> Ibis: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --destination-port 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 8080
[07:52] <dr_willis> i dont see why you dont set apache to listen to both
[07:52] <Ibis> curiousx: I tried that, but it's not working the way I want it to. Visiting http://127.0.0.1:80/  shows nothing. Other than an error message generated by my web browser.
[07:52] <Ibis> dr_willis, apache is just an example, I'm running a webserver WITHOUT root.
[07:53] <iSeeDeadPixels> i can't eject the cd by using my laptops keyboard button, it's a MSI P600
[07:53] <iSeeDeadPixels> it does show up in my dmesg tho
[07:53] <Ibis> It's /easier/ to do this. programs running in /home/ rather than going through all the headache of having to edit files in root directories.
[07:54] <dr_willis> iSeeDeadPixels:  try the eject command
[07:54] <pulse00> hi all. i'm trying to setup permissions using setfacl in the cache folder of my webapp so that files created either by my user or the webserver can be written and deleted both by my user and the webserver. however, when the webserver creates a new file, getfacl overwrites some permissions and instead of having "rwx", there's a comment stating "#effective:r-x" - preventing me from deleting the file. anyone an idea
[07:54] <pulse00> where the #effective part comes from?
[07:54] <iSeeDeadPixels> dr_willis: that obviously works
[07:54] <ikonia> pulse00: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[07:55] <pulse00> ikonia: just a second
[07:55] <dr_willis> iSeeDeadPixels:  obvioulsy? not really.. so you are saying your button is actually broken. not a locked drive
[07:55] <Ababab> Hello. I'm looking for one program. It should listen a pop3 or imap email box and save all the email attachments to a folder. Any suggestions? I need to run it headless
[07:55] <pulse00> ikonia: 10.04 lucis
[07:56] <pulse00> *lucid
[07:56] <iSeeDeadPixels> dr_willis: the button is not mapped
[07:56] <ikonia> !info httpd lucid
[07:56] <ikonia> !info apache2 lucid
[07:56] <dr_willis> iSeeDeadPixels:  you got a button thats not part of the optical drive unit?
[07:57] <iSeeDeadPixels> dr_willis: yes
[07:57] <ikonia> pulse00: so the user running the webserver, is that www-data (I can't remember without checking)
[07:57] <dr_willis> thats new.
[07:58] <iSeeDeadPixels> How so?
[07:58] <pulse00> ikonia: yes, it's www-data
[07:58] <dr_willis> ive never seen a laptop set up that way
[07:58] <ikonia> pulse00: so can you show me ls -la on a file created by the webserver please.
[07:59] <Windovoz> I wonder if Ubuntu will be as fast as my Windows XP on my netbook?
[07:59] <pulse00> ikonia: drwxr-xr-x+ 8 www-data www-data 4096 Sep 28 09:50 prod
[07:59] <fritsch> Windovoz: just give it a try
[07:59] <dr_willis> Windovoz: .faster i find then xp
[07:59] <pulse00> ikonia: this ist the getfacl for the "prod" folder: https://gist.github.com/1247287
[07:59] <ikonia> pulse00: what is the location of this file on the file system
[07:59] <Windovoz> fritsch: how can I ? without ruining the current stuff?
[07:59] <iSeeDeadPixels> dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/698356/
[07:59] <fritsch> Windovoz: just start from cd / usb stick
[08:00] <fritsch> Windovoz: there is a tryout mode
[08:00] <Windovoz> it will be fast from usb too?
[08:00] <pulse00> ikonia: the full path is /var/www/vhosts/example.com/website/app/cache/prod
[08:00] <Godfather_> hi
[08:00] <ikonia> fritsch: running from a usb/cd will not be a valid performance test
[08:00] <fritsch> Windovoz: it will boot a little slow
[08:00] <dr_willis> very useable Windovoz
[08:00] <ikonia> it will run slower
[08:00] <fritsch> Windovoz: but when stuff is in memory
[08:00] <Godfather_> how can i open the "Run application" with keys?
[08:01] <fritsch> Windovoz: i think it will be as fast as xp anyways - even from stick / cd :-)
[08:01] <Windovoz> OK, the USB mode is read-only ? Like CD-mode
[08:01] <ikonia> fritsch: then you think wrong
[08:01] <fritsch> ikonia: ubuntu got so slow over time?
[08:01] <ikonia> fritsch: running an OS against another OS running from a CD/external USB will never be as responsive
[08:01] <fritsch> ikonia: i know, was just kidding above
[08:02] <ikonia> fritsch: it's nothing to do with the OS, an internal disk based OS that is uncompressed will run faster by default than a OS booting on an external OS in a compressed format
[08:02] <iSeeDeadPixels> dr_willis: any idea?
[08:02] <ikonia> fritsch: please don't "joke" to misslead people
[08:02] <fritsch> ikonia: i placed a smiley
[08:02] <Windovoz> hey guys
[08:02] <ikonia> pulse00: I'm just trying to work out which would take priority here in terms of file creation mask
[08:03] <monotonia> I used ceni to manage network connections, but I wanted to come back to network-manager, so I uninstalled it. Now wlan1 and eth1 dissapeared from my ifconfig and no application can see them. What to do to restore them?
[08:03] <subcool> xorg.conf Q
[08:04] <fritsch> monotonia: i think you have to restore the default /etc/network/interfaces
[08:04] <fritsch> monotonia: normally there are just two lines in
[08:04] <subcool> Im reading a thing explaining how to fix my video. It mentions adding a section to the xorg.conf file. But, the only file i have is an xorg.conf.d file and it doesnt look much like the section that is being added
[08:04] <fritsch> monotonia: auto lo
[08:04] <fritsch> monotonia: iface lo inet loopback
[08:04] <monotonia> fritsch: the problem is, there are
[08:04] <monotonia> fritsch: nothing else
[08:05] <fritsch> monotonia: this is kind of strange then
[08:05] <Windovoz> you didn't tell me if USB mode will be read-only or not
[08:05] <curiousx> monotonia: sudo dhclient
[08:05] <iSeeDeadPixels> dr_willis: any idea?
[08:06] <fritsch> Windovoz: per default ubuntu live does not write to any disk
[08:06] <monotonia> fritsch: done, reboot or something?
[08:06] <fritsch> Windovoz: but you can have write access, by accessing folders and so on
[08:06] <Windovoz> can I "install" it on USB?
[08:06] <fritsch> monotonia: you can try to restart network-manager daemon
[08:06] <fritsch> Windovoz: this can also be done
[08:07] <Windovoz> how do I do that?
[08:07] <fritsch> Windovoz: as ikonia mentioned, it will be slow
[08:07] <Windovoz> fritsch: but that will not be compressed anymore
[08:07] <monotonia> fritsch: still only eth0 and lo in ifconfig
[08:07] <fritsch> monotonia: there only has to be lo device
[08:08] <fritsch> monotonia: the rest is done with network-manager
[08:08] <fritsch> monotonia: ah! got you
[08:08] <fritsch> monotonia: ifconfig just reports eth0 and lo
[08:08] <fritsch> monotonia: correct?
[08:08] <monotonia> fritsch: yes
[08:08] <Ibis> Finally, something that works.       I used: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/rinetd-redirects-tcp-connections-from-one-ip-address-and-port-to-another.html
[08:08] <fritsch> monotonia: rightclick on nm-applet and click: activate wireless
[08:08] <iSeeDeadPixels> http://paste.ubuntu.com/698356/ my eject button doesn't work, any ideas?
[08:08] <curiousx> thx Ibis
[08:09] <fritsch> monotonia: which interface is missing?
[08:09] <monotonia> fritsch: there is no option like that
[08:09] <Ibis> dr_willis: That will do.
[08:09] <Ibis> curiousx: You're welcome. Thanks you to for your time.
[08:09] <Ibis> s/to/TWO
[08:09] <fritsch> monotonia: is this a laptop and wireless is missing?
[08:09] <monotonia> fritsch: eth1, for usb, and wlan, for wifi
[08:09] <Windovoz> How do I install Ubuntu to USB flash?
[08:09] <Chat0831> hehehe
[08:09] <curiousx> your welcome too dude ==)
[08:09] <Ibis> Windovoz: Use unetbootin
[08:09] <monotonia> fritsch: before uninstalling ceni it worked
[08:09] <Chat0831> naon eta teh artina ah
[08:10] <dr_willis> Windovoz:  full install or a live cd setup.
[08:10] <fritsch> monotonia: okay, can you "replug" the usb device?
[08:10] <Windovoz> dr_willis: full install
[08:10] <Chat0831> hey nuju naraon
[08:10] <iSeeDeadPixels> http://paste.ubuntu.com/698356/ my eject button doesn't work, any ideas? @ dr_willis
[08:10] <Chat0831> meni rame kieu
[08:10] <monotonia> fritsch: lol, I did it many, many times, really
[08:10] <dr_willis> Windovoz:  boot a cd. install to flash same as you.would a hd.
[08:10] <monotonia> fritsch: it just stopped seeing it
[08:10] <Ibis> Windovoz: unetbootin.sourceforge.net/             <----- That program will put your ISO file you downloaded from ubuntu into your USB flash drive.          You then turn off your computer. Turn it back on and BE sure to ask your comptuer to boot from your USB drive and not your HARDDRIVe
[08:11] <fritsch> monotonia: lsusb does report it?
[08:11] <iSeeDeadPixels> monotonia: what does your dmesg saf?
[08:11] <curiousx> iSeeDeadPixels: tipe "eject" in the terminal
[08:11] <euis> kumaha daramang gaya ??
[08:11] <Windovoz> Ibis: that is live USB mode
[08:11] <dr_willis> iSeeDeadPixels:  never seen a software contrilled eject media bytton. so no
[08:11] <Vladislas> euis, damang
[08:11] <Ibis> Windovoz: Yea... And you can install from it too.
[08:11] <iSeeDeadPixels> curiousx: No.
[08:11] <curiousx> and eject -t to close
[08:12] <Ibis> Windovoz: OoOooo I get it. Sorry, I misread that.
[08:12] <iSeeDeadPixels> dr_willis: it's just a keybard button
[08:12] <dr_willis> iSeeDeadPixels:  you may want to give more details when yiu reask the question. ;)
[08:12] <Windovoz> dr_willis Ibis: OK, I have a computer with DVD-ROM, I want to use ubuntu from USB flash on netbook
[08:12] <Ibis> Windovoz: Basically, select an option that asks "How do you want to partition". Click on "Something else", and ask it to use your USB drive.
[08:12] <monotonia> fritsch: wow, i plugged it in and it works, hurray, now if only wi-fi started to work too
[08:12] <iSeeDeadPixels> dr_willis: learning dvorak, slow typing
[08:12] <dr_willis> iSeeDeadPixels:  nwver seen a laptoo like that.  so i have ni idea in it
[08:12] <fritsch> monotonia: just reboot :-)
[08:12] <Ibis> Windovoz: Oh then use Unetbootin. Lol, confusing me.
[08:13] <fritsch> monotonia: it is easier than fiddling with modul loading
[08:13] <dr_willis> on my android phone typing slowly..
[08:13] <monotonia> fritsch: ok, if I won't return it means it worked :)
[08:13] <Ibis> Windovoz: That is exactly HOW I install ubuntu every time. I not going to waste money On CD-disks.
[08:13] <euis> teu di waro nyeri hate awas tah
[08:13] <fritsch> monotonia: returning and saying thx is always a good idea
[08:13] <euis> di tungguan di pajagalan
[08:13] <iSeeDeadPixels> http://paste.ubuntu.com/698356/ my eject button doesn't work, i do know about the terminal command, but i want my button to work
[08:13] <euis> wew ah
[08:13] <Ibis> Windovoz: Oh wait. Wow, I confused myself.
[08:14] <dr_willis> Windovoz:  a live usb can install to a hd. a full install to a usb cant
[08:14] <Ibis> Windovoz: With your "CD disk", you will eventually get to the installation option asking "How do you want to partition".
[08:14] <iSeeDeadPixels> that better?
[08:14] <dr_willis> iSeeDeadPixels:  call it a eject multimedia jeybord button
[08:15] <Ibis> Windovoz: it may also say "install next to, or besides windows".       Click on something else and be extremely sure you select USB flash drive to "Install TO".
[08:15] <dr_willis> otherwise we think its the button on the cd.
[08:15] <Ibis> dr_willis: Can't install to USB? o_O
[08:16] <dr_willis> Ibis:  hmm? i use a live flash setup to install to hd ir a usb to make a full install
[08:16] <dr_willis> cd or live ysb --> full install to hd
[08:17] <Ibis> dr_willis: I thought Windovoz here wanted to install and use ubuntu from USB and not Harddrive.            At first, I was instructing to use Unetbootin to install to  "hd".
[08:17] <dr_willis> or full install to a second flash drive
[08:17] <dr_willis> Ibis:  no ide what he wants... ;)
[08:18] <dr_willis> live use unetbiitin or pendrive linux tools
[08:18] <Ibis> Windovoz: So. Exactly.. What are you trying to do?               You want to install this to your /HardDrive/?
[08:18] <dr_willis> full use cd ir luve ysb. to do full insrall
[08:19] <iSeeDeadPixels> and ubuntu doesn't wanna install on a raid too
[08:19] <dr_willis> ndirc still has this lame keybord bug.
[08:19] <dr_willis> !raid
[08:19] <iSeeDeadPixels> dr_willis: use AndChat
[08:20] <dr_willis> iSeeDeadPixels:  i am
[08:20] <dr_willis> it has a keybord bug
[08:20] <iSeeDeadPixels> and it's a HW Raid0
[08:20] <dr_willis> it wont echo wgat i type after a while
[08:20] <fritsch> iSeeDeadPixels: what controller are you using?
[08:20] <iSeeDeadPixels> uhu
[08:21] <iSeeDeadPixels> fritsch: onbaord
[08:21] <fritsch> iSeeDeadPixels: a - a pseudo ICH10 one?
[08:21] <dr_willis> i dont bother with raid anymore.
[08:21] <iSeeDeadPixels> it worked on older distro
[08:21] <fritsch> iSeeDeadPixels: and now ubuntu only sees separate disks?
[08:21] <dr_willis> alternative cd is needed for a raid install i thought
[08:21] <iSeeDeadPixels> No, it sees the raid
[08:22] <fritsch> iSeeDeadPixels: okay, then i did not get the problem
[08:22] <iSeeDeadPixels> it's a Asus Rampage II Extreme
[08:22] <iSeeDeadPixels> but it fails to install
[08:22] <iSeeDeadPixels> and it can't install grub
[08:22] <fritsch> iSeeDeadPixels: what is the rror message?
[08:23] <fritsch> iSeeDeadPixels: could you switch terminals and see some of them?
[08:23] <iSeeDeadPixels> fritsch: it hangs at the checklist screen
[08:23] <iSeeDeadPixels> i got it to install
[08:23] <monotonia> fritsch: unfortunately, still no wlan
[08:23] <iSeeDeadPixels> but then grub failed to install
[08:23] <fritsch> monotonia: wireless is internal?
[08:24] <murlidhar> can anyone confirm that twitux client is no longer workind in 11.04
[08:24] <fritsch> iSeeDeadPixels: that makes sense, grub does not take the correct device
[08:24] <monotonia> fritsch: yes
[08:24] <iSeeDeadPixels> fritsch: let him do a lspci along with a lsmod
[08:24] <fritsch> monotonia: can you pastebin an lspci
[08:24] <iSeeDeadPixels> fritsch: i tried installing grub onto the raid, didn't work
[08:25] <murlidhar> working*
[08:25] <fritsch> iSeeDeadPixels: you could run from live cd chrooting into it
[08:25] <iSeeDeadPixels> meh
[08:25] <iSeeDeadPixels> later today maybe
[08:25] <monotonia> fritsch: it's this one: Network controller: Intersil Corporation ISL3886 [Prism Javelin/Prism Xbow] (rev 01). I use native drivers, they worked fine before I uninstalled ceni.
[08:26] <fritsch> monotonia: are they loaded?
[08:26] <fritsch> monotonia: try rmmodding them and modprobe them again
[08:26] <rapier> hi, i am trying to install the drivers to recognise my intel wireless. i have the needed files but having trouble with getting them installed, can anyone help me out pls?
[08:27] <fritsch> rapier: normally intel wireless does not need you to install drivers
[08:27] <fritsch> rapier: they are integrated into the kernel
[08:28] <rapier> my wireless is still not working, i can softblock on and off bt iwconfig is not showing it at all.
[08:28] <iSeeDeadPixels> what's in your dmesg?
[08:28] <fritsch> rapier: please pastebin a dmesg output
[08:28] <fritsch> iSeeDeadPixels: hehe
[08:28] <rapier> im running ubuntu 10.10
[08:29] <iSeeDeadPixels> dmesg | grep "intel"
[08:29] <iSeeDeadPixels> enter that command and pastebin it
[08:29] <rapier> [    0.000000]  [<c17cbf50>] detect_intel_iommu+0x12/0x7a
[08:29] <rapier> [    4.254833] intel_idle: MWAIT substates: 0x22220
[08:29] <rapier> [    4.254836] intel_idle: does not run on family 6 model 23
[08:29] <rapier> [    4.647226] agpgart-intel 0000:00:00.0: Intel GM45 Chipset
[08:29] <rapier> [    4.647417] agpgart-intel 0000:00:00.0: detected gtt size: 2097152K total, 262144K mappable
[08:29] <FloodBot1> rapier: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:29] <rapier> [    4.648949] agpgart-intel 0000:00:00.0: detected 65536K stolen memory
[08:29] <monotonia> fritsch: i get what's modprobe, but what's rmmodding?
[08:29] <fritsch> rapier: this is not the pastebin
[08:29] <fritsch> monotonia: loading "drivers"
[08:30] <iSeeDeadPixels> monotonia: rmmod
[08:30] <murlidhar> can anyone confirm that twitux client is no longer working in 11.04 ?
[08:30] <iSeeDeadPixels> rapier: please pastebin it
[08:30] <iSeeDeadPixels> http://goo.gl/ixcN9
[08:31] <rapier> http://paste.ubuntu.com/698371/
[08:31] <rapier> like this?
[08:31] <monotonia> fritsch: just "rmmod p54pci"? done.
[08:31] <fritsch> rapier: please paste whole dmesg
[08:31] <fritsch> monotonia: yes, try this
[08:31] <monotonia> fritsch: now reboot?
[08:31] <fritsch> monotonia: and afterwards modprobe p54pci
[08:31] <fritsch> monotonia: and then give me the output of dmesg into a pastebin
[08:32] <fritsch> monotonia: no reboot
[08:32] <iSeeDeadPixels> rapier: is that the full output of > dmesg | grep "intel"
[08:32] <fritsch> iSeeDeadPixels: the grep is wrong here
[08:32] <rapier> http://paste.ubuntu.com/698372/
[08:32] <rapier> this one?
[08:33] <fritsch> rapier: yes, is there a hardware killswitch?
[08:33] <rapier> its a touch sensitive switch
[08:34] <rapier> it seems to work
[08:34] <rapier> rfkill shows that it does.
[08:34] <dspr> hi guise
[08:34] <ambuj> hii
[08:34] <fritsch> rapier: i do not see any wireless in the logs
[08:34] <dspr> sup
[08:34] <iSeeDeadPixels> rapier: lspci in a pastebin?
[08:35] <Windovoz> Ibis: dr_willis: I think I need two usb flash sticks - one for live USB and one for install, right
[08:35] <ambuj> hello everybody!!!
[08:35] <ambuj> :D
[08:35] <rapier> http://paste.ubuntu.com/698374/
[08:35] <monotonia> fritsch: http://pastebin.com/HepvvHAC weird, in the end it says it can't find firmware, even if I wget-ed (again) it a moment ago
[08:35] <fritsch> monotonia: place it at the correct location
[08:35] <rapier> thx for helping guys, ive been at it for 3 days now :(
[08:35] <ambuj> hey atleast reply
[08:35] <fritsch> rapier: this is oneiric unstable
[08:35] <ambuj> is my messages delivered to u??
[08:35] <fritsch> rapier: did it work with 11.04?
[08:35] <rapier> what does that mean?
[08:36] <fritsch> rapier: you are not using a stable ubuntu release
[08:36] <monotonia> fritsch: I used this instruction: http://wiki.debian.org/prism54#p54pci
[08:36] <fritsch> monotonia: copy the firmware to /lib/firmware
[08:36] <rapier> ehm this is the first time ive installed ubuntu, i was using backtrack and the wifi worked but once i switched to blackbuntu it stopped.
[08:36] <iSeeDeadPixels> rapier: he needs to load the iwlwifi driver
[08:36] <fritsch> monotonia: and do: rmmod "yourdriver" && modprobe "yourDriver"
[08:36] <ionutP> hi
[08:37] <ionutP> kernel page size is in bit or in byte?
[08:37] <ionutP> is expressed *
[08:37] <fritsch> ionutP: without looking it must be byte
[08:37] <fritsch> ionutP: bit does not make any sense
[08:37] <iSeeDeadPixels> fritsch: he needs to load iwlwifi
[08:38] <fritsch> iSeeDeadPixels: should be loaded automatically
[08:38] <ionutP> ty
[08:38] <iSeeDeadPixels> rapier: lsmod | grep "iwl"
[08:38] <fritsch> ionutP: you asked for the size, correct - not the count
[08:38] <iSeeDeadPixels> can you pastebin that?
[08:38] <ionutP> yes size
[08:38] <monotonia> fritsch: thanks, you are the greatest :)
[08:39] <fritsch> monotonia: no, i am not
[08:39] <rapier> it doesnt do anthing lsmod | grep "iwl"
[08:39] <fritsch> ionutP: it is byte, but normally kbyte
[08:39] <iSeeDeadPixels> rapier: modprobe iwlwifi
[08:39] <fritsch> ionutP: there is not so much room in one byte - only 8 bit
[08:40] <ionutP> wanted to play with memory mapped file thats why i ask about the size
[08:40] <rapier> FATAL: Module iwlwifi not found.
[08:40] <iSeeDeadPixels> aha
[08:40] <fritsch> rapier: did you mess with the kernel?
[08:40] <iSeeDeadPixels> rapier: uname -a
[08:40] <rapier> mate i honestly dont know what i messed with, i just copy and paste stuff :(
[08:41] <iSeeDeadPixels> fritsch: he's not using Ubuntu but a derative
[08:41] <fritsch> iSeeDeadPixels: jep, if it is a very old version the modul is called iwlagn
[08:41] <murlidhar> can anyone confirm that twitux twitter client is no longer working in 11.04 ?
[08:41] <rapier> i have not made any updates as of yet, this is a fresh install of 3 days ago.
[08:41] <fritsch> murlidhar: read for the third time now - dont know
[08:41] <iSeeDeadPixels> rapier: uname -a ?
[08:41] <conntrack-> why would IP be fragmenting between two machines?
[08:41] <fritsch> conntrack-: mtu problem? bad switch?
[08:42] <fritsch> conntrack-: IP, you mean tcp?
[08:42] <conntrack-> There is no switch
[08:42] <rapier> Linux 1337 2.6.39-3-bb03 #10 SMP Tue Jul 12 14:01:04 ICT 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:42] <conntrack-> fritsch: Yes
[08:42] <fritsch> conntrack-: what do you mean be fragmenting?
[08:42] <iSeeDeadPixels> rapier: distro?
[08:42] <fritsch> conntrack-: it is normal, that packages are fragmented and build up later
[08:42] <murlidhar> FiremanEd: well hopefully someone knows it. maybe i shouldn't hve repeated it cuz if anyone had known about it they would have told me already.
[08:42] <rapier> blackbuntu
[08:42] <iSeeDeadPixels> hmm
[08:43] <fritsch> rapier: uname -a as iSeeDeadPixels said
[08:43] <ikonia> rapier: we don't support that here
[08:43] <iSeeDeadPixels> weird stuff
[08:43] <ikonia> rapier: please use the blacbuntu support resources.
[08:43] <conntrack-> fritsch: The checksum is incorrect
[08:43] <iSeeDeadPixels> fritsch: Linux 1337 2.6.39-3-bb03 #10 SMP Tue Jul 12 14:01:04 ICT 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:43] <fritsch> conntrack-: oha! meaning it gets broken?
[08:43] <ambuj> i am getting stange color in videos
[08:43] <iSeeDeadPixels> he posted it already
[08:43] <ambuj> probably messed up my nvidia settings :(
[08:44] <rapier> ehm ok, i thought it would have been the same.  thanks for your time.
[08:44] <ikonia> rapier: no problem
[08:44] <conntrack-> fritsch: I guess so. I don't actually know :)
[08:44] <iSeeDeadPixels> np rapier
[08:44] <fritsch> conntrack-: what is your usecase? you are just copying files?
[08:44] <iSeeDeadPixels> try googling
[08:44] <ambuj> hey can anybody solve my query??
[08:44] <conntrack-> fritsch: Browsing
[08:44] <ambuj> is i am talking to myself
[08:44] <fritsch> ambuj: you said probably
[08:44] <conntrack-> fritsch: A have set a ttl 255 though
[08:45] <Peetz0r> I use sslh to run ssh and https over port 443. Connecting to ssh over 443 takes way longer than over port 22. Can this be fixed, and how?
[08:45] <conntrack-> fritsch: Could that be why?
[08:45] <fritsch> conntrack-: no, this just means 255 hobs between you and target
[08:45] <fritsch> conntrack-: why did you change that setting?
[08:45] <rabbi1> installed virtualbox, unable to get the usb, saying need to add user to vbox
[08:45] <fritsch> conntrack-: do you have packet loss when doing ping?
[08:46] <conntrack-> fritsch: Not now :)
[08:46] <fritsch> conntrack-: sorry, cannot really get your problem
[08:46] <Windovoz> Which version of Ubuntu is better for Netbook with 1Gb RAM and 1.6 Atom CPU?
[08:46] <conntrack-> fritsch: The thing is that the fragmented packets appear to evidence the firewall
[08:47] <lion42> Windovoz, either 11.04 or... what's the lts, 10.10? 10.04?
[08:47] <lion42> should be fine.
[08:47] <curiousx> rabbi1: did you install the Vbox guest additions ?
[08:47] <lion42> Windovoz, are you used to using an older version? Are you interested in using unity?
[08:47] <rabbi1> curiousx: yes, i did
[08:47] <fritsch> conntrack-: you mangle them in your firewall?
[08:47] <conntrack-> fritsch: No
[08:47] <Windovoz> lion42: I meant there are different desktops , right? I don't want old version/
[08:47] <fritsch> conntrack-: iptables -F and retry without
[08:48] <lion42> Windovoz, then 11.04
[08:48] <curiousx> rabbi1: yours usb port doesn't work on the windows virtual machine ?
[08:48] <Windovoz> Why is 32-bit version "recommended"
[08:48] <rabbi1> curiousx: yeah
[08:48] <lion42> Windovoz, because a lot of users don't know if they have a 32 bit or 64 bit machine, and 64 bit machines can use 32 bit os just fine.
[08:49] <lion42> Unless you have a bunch of ram or a high end machine, which a netbook obviously isn't, 32 is fine.
[08:49] <Windovoz> lion42: What if I do know?
[08:49] <Windovoz> ok then
[08:49] <curiousx> waith me a minute i'll run my Winbug virtual machine =P
[08:49] <rabbi1> curiousx: okies...
[08:50] <fritsch> lion42: 64bit packages are compiled with isse2 support, this is a great advantage
[08:53] <conntrack-> fritsch: Didn't help. Thanks for taking the time to think about the issue :) I look into it later
[08:53] <rabbi1> curiousx: u there?
[08:54] <Vurtne> hello all
[08:55] <curiousx> yeah!
[08:55] <Vurtne> Smf - Hahaha êàê âàì song?
[08:55] <curiousx> the solution is adding your user to VirtualBox group i think
[08:56] <Vurtne> drag?7
[08:56] <fritsch> Vurtne: keyboard working fine?
[08:56] <loonchong> d
[08:56] <curiousx> some like ---> sudo adduser $USER VirtualBox
[08:56] <Vurtne> fritsch		 yes
[08:56] <Vurtne> à ÷òî?
[08:57] <Vurtne> ó òåáÿ ïðîáëåìû?
[08:57] <fritsch> mmh, is this some kind of new spambot?
[08:57] <Vurtne> what&
[08:57] <Vurtne> no
[08:57] <Vurtne> wtf O.j
[08:58] <Vurtne> i dont spek english
[08:58] <rabbi1> curiousx: yeah, that's what the dialog box say, but how can i add it ?
[08:59] <curiousx> rabbi1: sudo adduser $USER vboxusers
[08:59] <Vurtne> speak Russia?
[08:59] <ikonia> !ru | Vurtne
[08:59] <bazhang> Vurtne, #ubuntu-ru
[09:00] <rabbi1> curiousx: the group already exists
[09:00] <Vurtne> thanks
[09:03] <curiousx> mmm... i dont know what clould be the problem =(
[09:03] <curiousx> try again
[09:04] <rabbi1> curiousx: that's k, thank you for the support
[09:04] <curiousx> look what i have
[09:04] <curiousx> sudo adduser $USER vboxusers
[09:04] <curiousx> [sudo] password for curiousx:
[09:04] <curiousx> Adding user `curiousx' to group `vboxusers
[09:05] <curiousx> Adding user curiousx to group vboxusers
[09:05] <curiousx> Done.
[09:05] <fritsch> curiousx: this is good, logout and in again and it sould be fine
[09:05] <fritsch> curiousx: ups :-) you just showd it to some one
[09:06] <curiousx> yes like fritsch wrote try again rabbi1 logout
[09:06] <curiousx> Adding user curiousx to group vboxusers
[09:06] <curiousx> Done.
[09:06] <mordof> how do i check what my individual core speed is?
[09:07] <curiousx> thanks fritsch =)
[09:07] <jpds> mordof: less /proc/cpuinfo
[09:07] <mordof> jpds: ty
[09:07] <bouma> how do i fix it so that the root pw is requested and a sata/esata can be mounted without being added to fstab or a manual sudo mount etc??
[09:08] <rabbi1> curiousx: $user is linux user or windows username?
[09:09] <curiousx> rabbi1: write with upercase, is the user with you are loging on your system
[09:09] <curiousx> not the user of windows
[09:11] <htlm> Is there a room for andriod cellphones?
[09:11] <ikonia> htlm: #anrdoid ?
[09:11] <jpds> htlm: #android ?
[09:11] <ikonia> bit of common sense works wonders
[09:12] <Vurtne> dfss
[09:12] <Vurtne> óðà çàðàãåñòðèðîâàëñÿ
[09:12] <Vurtne> âñåì ïðèâåò
[09:12] <ikonia> Vurtne: stop
[09:12] <ikonia> Vurtne: you have been told #ubuntu-ru
[09:12] <Vurtne> k sory
[09:12] <htlm> it's not common sense it's more of a guess
[09:12] <ikonia> Vurtne: you will not be warned again
[09:12] <ikonia> htlm: no, I looked on the channel list and found it, hence common sense
[09:13] <legalimpurity> heyy hi everyone! up here first time
[09:14] <Myrtti> legalimpurity: welcome!
[09:14] <htlm> Well, its just a  "hey  do you.know of this , if not lets give a guess... "  either way still works ,thank you anyways
[09:15] <qiyong> should I use distro rails or gem's?
[09:15] <htlm> Hi new guy
[09:15] <legalimpurity> thnxx. canany one help me here.. whatzz IRC networks all abt>? what is thsi chat group aboutt?? any particular area of interest?
[09:20] <htlm> legalimpurity  you have a big name...  This is for people with computer help that everyone  volunteers for to help out ... And hopefully u do the same...   this is more for the operative system type of help called ubuntu
[09:21] <Sidewinder1> He's gone.
[09:21] <htlm> Darn
[09:22] <htlm> I'm on my android device so , this is such a small stream compared to a computer
[09:22] <htlm> Screen
[09:22] <Rurd2di> how do you save and leave visudo
[09:22] <Rurd2di> lol
 how do you save and leave visudo
 lol
[09:22] <FloodBot1> Rurd2di: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:23] <htlm> Sidewinder1 long time huh
[09:23] <curiousx> Rurd2di: to save press "Ctrl + O" to exit press "Ctrl + X"
[09:23] <Sidewinder1> htlm, Hope you're well...
[09:24] <curiousx> if there are somthing wrong in the syntax visudo will tell you
[09:24] <Rurd2di> login and out to take effect Sidewinder1 ?
[09:24] <htlm> Rrr!  U too   and  I hope things are well ?
[09:24] <Kjekken> my computer hangs in boot at "Begin: Running /scripts/init-button ... done." any tips?
[09:25] <htlm> stretch out my thing but I would think if you would make sure you can mess with the boot priority or some kinda thing that makes keep your start up ... it's a guess
[09:26] <htlm> script I mean
[09:27] <htlm> Kjekken
[09:27] <faLUCE> hi.  Is it possible to run a graphical program with rc.local ? for example: xclcok I can run non-graphical processes, but I don't understand how to run gui programs
[09:27] <faLUCE> hi.  Is it possible to run a graphical program with rc.local ? for example: xclok .                  I can run non-graphical processes, but I don't understand how to run gui programs
[09:28] <faLUCE> (xclock)
[09:29] <htlm> Sidewinder1    u got sometime ?
[09:29] <Sidewinder1> htlm, A littlt.
[09:30]  * pr_Black думает что ставить на нетбук
[09:30] <Sidewinder1> littlebear, even.
[09:30] <Tm_T> !ru | pr_Black
[09:30] <zho> somebody here have an experience with rsync (exit 24) "file has vanished"?
[09:30] <htlm> No not me.
[09:30] <strange> hey guys i have a problem with my touch screen in ubuntu it seems to work but all movement is inverted if i touch it on the right it recognizes it left etc
[09:31] <Kjekken> htlm ? what?
[09:31] <RajDev_King> hello guys I have a problem or can say a doubt that.... I am using Windows Xp as well as Ubuntu 11.04 on dual mode but whenever I try to play sound in Xp it won't  work but at the same time ubuntu will do it,,, That my sound system is supported in ubuntu but not in Xp. Xp says that my sound card is damaged so why is it working in ubuntu..
[09:31] <strange> RajDev_King, i think your problem is windows related not ubuntu
[09:32] <strange> ie wrong channel
[09:32] <Peetz0r> RajDev_King: windows probablyneeds drivers, whileubuntu already has those in the kernel. Try #windows for more help
[09:33] <RajDev_King> Okae..
[09:33] <RajDev_King> I see
[09:33] <htlm>  Kjekken scirpt out my thing but I would think if you would make sure you can mess with the boot priority or some kinda thing that makes keep your start up ... it's a guess
[09:33] <Sidewinder1> RajDev_King, I seem to remember a similar problem with my dual boot, my solution was to cold reboot when switching from one OS to the other, warm reboot (restart) seemed to be the problem.
[09:35] <htlm> Kjekken  something with a script that you wrote poss we convene messing with it .. From booting up I mean
[09:35] <RajDev_King> Sidewinder1: I didn't get you???
[09:35] <Sidewinder1> RajDev_King, That's simply a suggestion; something to try.
[09:36] <RajDev_King> Sidewinder1: Yeah Please tell me how to do it..
[09:37] <htlm> Sidewinder1  does it  seem like the grub not working?
[09:37] <Sidewinder1> RajDev_King, When going from ubuntu to win and vice-versa, use "Shut-Down" and NOT "Restart".
[09:37] <htlm> RajDev_King  what your computer brand
[09:38] <RajDev_King> htlm: it's intel pentium 4
[09:38] <RajDev_King>  Sidewinder1; Oh I see..
[09:40] <RajDev_King> Okae thank you all for your support I will get back to you if still the problem's floating..
[09:40] <htlm>  Not the cpu .but it does help indircetly.... what is your brand I'm hoping it's not a toishba  ...
[09:40] <RajDev_King> htlm: It's samsung
[09:40] <RajDev_King> no..no... it's INTEX
[09:40] <RajDev_King> My LCD is Samsung
[09:41] <RajDev_King> Well Ubuntu's so complex
[09:41] <RajDev_King> Sometimes it's very difficult to deal with it..
[09:42] <RajDev_King> :(
[09:42] <htlm> RajDev_King  so im guessing its about 5 _11 yrs. Old ?
[09:42] <RajDev_King> Yeah it's 5 yrs old.
[09:42] <vlt> Hello. What can be a reason for "passwd: Authentication token manipulation error \n passwd: password unchanged" when I want to change the password by typing "passwd" as root? (/usr/bin/passwd looks fine: 4755 root:root)
[09:46] <Sidewinder1> Looks like the three floodbots are having an argument. :-)
[09:47] <Mikey^> lol
[09:51] <rabbi1> how do i get only network manager on notification area ?
[09:53] <htlm>  No this is . Very easy most things r e renamed  and move around from windows  and mac   but once you find the groove about knowing how ubuntu   works  you can see huge ocean of computer stuff! Try resisting the vast customization alone can get lost for weeks  on just how you what your computer to look like,,,  some ppl like windows feel or a mac look  which makes it easier to switch over to linux .... So ultimately you are the person of choice,,, lol so ha
[09:54] <htlm> what I miss bots fightimg?
[09:57] <ahhughez> hey guys, day #3 now.... trying to connect apple magic trackpad :'( I can scan + see the device and I can now run sudo hidd --connect XX:XX:XX..... but it says 'Can't create HID control channel: Operation now in progress' is there something I am missing (and obviously dont know about)?
[09:58] <htlm> does anyone know how to read through phone
[09:59] <htlm> does anyone know how to root your phone  (andriod)
[09:59] <LjL> htlm: that's hardly ontopic for here, try #android-root
[09:59] <newman> Anyone here managed to use Eclipse for development? It seems to freeze each time I right or left click on a file in project explorer.
[09:59] <ahhughez> htlm, depends on the phone and the version. goto #android
[09:59] <crimsonmane> hello. i'm using 10.04 LTS and am trying to upgrade Thunderbird to the latest. There's no update option within Thunderbird itself. I have downloaded thunderbird-7.0.tar.bz and do not know how to proceed.
[09:59] <ahhughez> newman, CONSTANTLY use it for java
[10:00] <linuxuz3r> newman, i have
[10:00] <linuxuz3r> it works fine
[10:00] <htlm> LjL just lookin for a channel thanks
[10:00] <newman> linuxuz3r: 4.1, natty and java 1.6-26. You?
[10:01] <linuxuz3r> 10.04 lynx and java 1.5
[10:01] <newman> ahhughez: Same to you? I'm using it for PHP though
[10:02] <htlm> ahhughez thanks...   No ones there.. Ive been there for like 30 mins. To 1hr
[10:02] <newman> B-/ I can create a remote project, and refresh it. But as soon as I click on a project files, seems it doesn't matter which kind, eclipse freezes.
[10:03] <crimsonmane> hello. i'm using 10.04 LTS and am trying to upgrade Thunderbird to the latest. There's no update option within Thunderbird itself. I have downloaded thunderbird-7.0.tar.bz and do not know how to proceed.
[10:03] <linuxuz3r> have you tried the update
[10:04] <linuxuz3r> eclipse helios or eclipse 3.7
[10:04] <shubham> hii
[10:05] <newman> linuxuz3r: Yup, I'm trying 4.1 now
[10:07] <crimsonmane> hello. i'm using 10.04 LTS and am trying to upgrade Thunderbird to the latest. There's no update option within Thunderbird itself. I have downloaded thunderbird-7.0.tar.bz and do not know how to proceed.
[10:12] <Chheapshot> crimsonmane: sudo apt-get upgrade thunderbird
[10:13] <crimsonmane> output is ... 0 upgraded message
[10:13] <Chheapshot> crimsonmane: are u sure u arent already running the latest version. Ubuntu usually updates all programs automatically
[10:13] <crimsonmane> About says i'm using 3.1
[10:14] <drgreen> +o FloodBot1] by ChanServ
[10:14] <drgreen> sorry
[10:14] <crimsonmane> which is what's available in the software center
[10:14] <drgreen> paste failed
[10:16] <Sidewinder1> crimsonmane, 3.1.13 is the current version for 10.04.
[10:16] <crimsonmane> why can't i upgrade to 7? aren't i supposed to be able to arbitrarily install?
[10:17] <crimsonmane> i need to upgrade because Lightning doesn't work with 3.1..13
[10:18] <silv3r_m00n> how to convert .dat vcd files to mpeg , on ubuntu ?
[10:18] <faLUCE> hi, In the "startup applications" I put  "/home/user/./myscript"  . myscript only contains "xclock" . Unfortunately, I don't see xclock after login. why ?
[10:18] <Sidewinder1> crimsonmane, It may not work and also may ruin the current version. That being said, if you open the .tar.bz file with "Archive Manager", you should find a readme type file with installation instructions.
[10:18] <Chheapshot> crimsonmane: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/thunderbird-stable
[10:19] <crimsonmane> sidewinder1 - that readme file gives a link to mozilla download page. there are no instructions there
[10:19] <Chheapshot> crimsonmane: sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade and u should have 7
[10:19] <Sidewinder1> Chheapshot, Not if he's running 10.04, correct?
[10:20] <crimsonmane> he tol dme to add mozilla to my repositories
[10:20] <crimsonmane> i'm typing in last command now
[10:20] <Sidewinder1> OIC
[10:20] <Chheapshot> well it worked for me atleast when i tried it
[10:20] <crimsonmane> it's working so far
[10:20] <Chheapshot> upgraded from 3.13 to 7
[10:21] <crimsonmane> i spent the last 4 hours searching online determined to find the answer myself
[10:21] <Chheapshot> crimsonmane: :D hehe sometimes u just cant find what u'r looking for. I hit the 2nd result from google to find that repository :P
[10:22] <Acfay> finity
[10:22] <crimsonmane> you probably have my experience with linux
[10:22] <Sidewinder1> crimsonmane, Certainly hope you backed everything up.. :-)
[10:22] <crimsonmane> more**
[10:22] <crimsonmane> no i didn't back everything up. i use gmail IMAP settings so there is nothing to "lose"
[10:23] <crimsonmane> alright lets see if this worked!
[10:23] <crimsonmane> let's see if it worked!
[10:23] <crimsonmane> omg can't see my own typing
[10:23] <Chheapshot> crimsonmane: hope it did :D
[10:23] <sven_> how can it be ubuntu gives me thunderbird version 3, and on mozilla they have 7? its mainly about my "virtual identies" plugin :/
[10:23] <Sidewinder1> Nothing can go wrong, go wrong,...
[10:23] <crimsonmane> FLAWLESS IT WORKED
[10:24] <Chheapshot> crimsonmane: cheers
[10:24] <Sidewinder1> Kewl!
[10:24] <crimsonmane> :)
[10:24] <shubham> hii
[10:24] <Sidewinder1> !pm > shubham
[10:25] <crimsonmane> actually it broke the addon that syncs my address book with google. but i'm happy
[10:25] <Chheapshot> crimsonmane: it doesnt support 7 or?
[10:25] <crimsonmane> dunno yet.
[10:26] <t_j> anyone know how to fix the asm include bug with clang on 11.04?
[10:26] <crimsonmane> oh nevermind, the contacts sync addon still works. it's the indicator icon that doesn't. i can't stand Evolution
[10:26] <crimsonmane> so that one addon is out of date. i can survive.
[10:28] <t_j> i exported CFLAGS=-I/usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu
[10:28] <shubham> hey plz am new to this can anybody solve my query?
[10:28] <shubham> my all videos giving blue color
[10:28] <waxhead> Hi everyone...
[10:29] <waxhead> I've got an i3 machine and I wanted to install 64bit, but instead 32bit with pae was installed...
[10:29] <shubham> all videos showing blue colors and whenever i open nvidia settings it maggically fixes
[10:29] <waxhead> how do I get the 64bit version installed?
[10:29] <shubham> bt when i closes it again becomes blue!!
[10:29] <shubham> :(
[10:29] <Sidewinder1> !nvidia | shubham
[10:30] <shubham> i have seen nothing there!!!
[10:30] <shubham> :(
[10:30] <timofonic> Hello
[10:30] <Sidewinder1> shubham, You may need to install the "Restricted Extras", driver.
[10:30] <shubham> yaa i have installed
[10:31] <waxhead> shubham, check that it's actually being used though
[10:31] <shubham> bt i thing my nvidia settings are not saved
[10:31] <shubham> it color settings changes each time
[10:31] <timofonic> I have problems hearing audio from my HDMI monitor, it worked previously on Windows Vista and I selected the correct output under Ubuntu 11.04. Please, can anyone help me?
[10:31] <waxhead> my headache for ages has been that the drivers are installed, but not in use
[10:31] <negev> hi, what is wrong with this in /etc/sudoers?     negev ALL = NOPASSWD: /sbin/ifup eth0:0,/sbin/ifup eth0:1,/sbin/ifdown eth0:0,/sbin/ifdown eth0:1,/usr/sbin/apache2ctl graceful-stop
[10:31] <waxhead> which is just painful...
[10:32] <Sidewinder1> shubham, I seem to remember someone else complaining about the same sort of thing but I forget the solution; 11.04, right?
[10:32] <shubham> yaa
[10:32] <timofonic> Uhh, I found was the nr2 output
[10:32] <timofonic> Weird
[10:32] <timofonic> Thanks anyway
[10:33] <shubham> nvidia making junk drivers
[10:33] <shubham> whats its use
[10:33] <shubham> it is not able to save its setting!
[10:33] <shubham> :(
[10:33] <ikonia> shubham: you need to save it to a config file
[10:33] <crimsonmane> alright so we have another problem. Thunderbird7 is not installing any addons when i tell it do... how to proceed?
[10:34] <shubham> i do even after becoming root user
[10:34] <ikonia> shubham: whats the actual problem you are having ?
[10:34] <Chheapshot> crimsonmane: what does it do? any error?
[10:34] <crimsonmane> it recognizes that i press the button on that addon, but there is no response.
[10:35] <crimsonmane> i have found "install from file" on the wrenches upper right corner. gonna try it
[10:35] <shubham> bt it each time changes to bizzare blue colour settings in videos
[10:35] <shubham> it totally ruined my video experiance
[10:35] <shubham> its like seeing avatar characters in all videos
[10:35] <Chheapshot> crimsonmane: it might be that the addons wont support version 7 yet or something. But there was a way to trick them that u'r using older version.
[10:35] <ikonia> shubham: can you fix this with a config change /?
[10:36] <shubham> ??
[10:36] <ikonia> shubham: can you fix this with a config change /?
[10:36] <esnoeijs> .perl.org
[10:36] <shubham> how to change config file settings?
[10:36] <crimsonmane> i was able to download the manual file from mozilla. very easy, that part. it could be a little more clear about what the 'tools menu' actually means
[10:36] <shubham> how to open it through notepad?
[10:37] <ikonia> shubham: notepad ?
[10:37] <Sidewinder1> shubham, gksudo gedit.
[10:37] <shubham> ohh sorry am new in ubuntu used to be window user sorry!!!!
[10:37] <shubham> :P
[10:37] <crimsonmane> next up, getting Thunderbird into the notifications applet
[10:37] <Sidewinder1> ikonia, Don't ya just love windows nomenclature?
[10:37] <ikonia> shubham: that's fine, I'm just trying to get where you are up to
[10:38] <ikonia> shubham: have you endabled the "nvidia drivers" from the ubuntu hardware tool ?
[10:38] <vagy> hi
[10:38] <shubham> yes!!!
[10:39] <mang0> What's the best computer you reckon I could get for around £200? Custom built or pre built, doesn't matter.
[10:39] <shubham> all is fine except video colors
[10:39] <vagy> i've a question: i connect via ssh on a 10.04 (server) system ... is it possible to monitor whatever messages the kernel or daemons generate by monitoring some tty device?
[10:39] <mang0> Oops, sorry was menna be in offtopic
[10:39] <ikonia> shubham: ok. So is it all videos or just some videos ?
[10:39] <ikonia> vagy: dmesg
[10:39] <ikonia> vagy: syslog
[10:39] <shubham> all videos
[10:39] <shubham> :(
[10:39] <ikonia> shubham: can you run the command "file" against one of those video files for me
[10:39] <shubham> avatar like blue colors in videos
[10:39] <ikonia> shubham: eg: "file myvideo.avi"
[10:40] <shubham> how to run command file?
[10:40] <ikonia> shubham: open a terminal, change directory to where one of your video files is, and run "file videofilename.avi"
[10:41] <shubham> ok
[10:42] <vagy> ikonia: thank you
[10:42] <Chheapshot> ah what was the command to quiet those floodbot messages on irssi. I mean on /ignore
[10:42] <shubham> hey i have seen this page bt it fixes only color in totem
[10:42] <shubham> vlc still showing blue color
[10:43] <shubham> i used step 2
[10:43] <shubham> http://www.wiredrevolution.com/ubuntu/fix-blue-tinted-video-in-ubuntu
[10:43] <vlt> Hello. When I open an OpenOffice odt document and scroll to its end the program closes. Why?
[10:44] <shubham> ikonia ??
[10:44] <ikonia> shubham: use step 3
[10:44] <ikonia> shubham: did you get the information I asked for
[10:44] <shubham> ok bt it saying it will use higher cpu usage
[10:44] <shubham> that i dont want!
[10:44] <ikonia> shubham: probably
[10:44] <ikonia> shubham: you'll have to deal with it, it's a bug
[10:45] <shubham> yaa ok!! fine!!!
[10:45] <shubham> nvidia sucks
[10:45] <shubham> ubuntu rocks!!
[10:45] <lion42> ...
[10:45] <lion42> lool
[10:45] <vlt> shubham: rocks?
[10:45] <shubham> its all nvidia fault!
[10:45] <shubham> :(
[10:45] <ikonia> shubham: don't need silly pointless ill educated comments please.
[10:45] <ikonia> shubham: no, it's not, please don't spout nonsense. Accept the bug, and the work around.
[10:46] <shubham> ok ok
[10:46] <maxillusionist> has anybody got some idea to use dialog in bash running under ubuntu
[10:46] <vlt> And what can be a reason for "passwd: Authentication token manipulation error \n passwd: password unchanged" when I want to change the password by typing "passwd" as root? (/usr/bin/passwd looks fine: 4755 root:root)
[10:46] <ikonia> vlt: you shouldn't be root
[10:47] <ikonia> vlt: the root user in Ubuntu is locked
[10:47] <saju_m> i have ubuntuu 10.04. How upgrade ubuntu 10.04 to 10.04.3 ???
[10:47] <shubham> thanks ikonia:
[10:47] <maxillusionist> vlt use the graphical windows its far easier
[10:47] <ahhughez> back to my trackpad + keyboard issues. Can anyone confirm all I need to do for bluetooth is 1) install bluez, 2) `sudo bluez-simple-agent hci0 XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX` 3) `sudo bluez-test-device trusted XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX yes` 4) restart
[10:47] <ikonia> saju_m: just use the update manager to install updates as they are offered to you
[10:47] <jrib> maxillusionist: what's your question exactly?
[10:47] <Sidewinder1> shubham, Why not just use Totem (that's what I use), rather than vlc?
[10:48] <yurik3829> ahhughez: Is bluez not already installed?
[10:48] <shubham> no na i will give u example
[10:48] <ahhughez> yurik3829, nope.. but it is now.
[10:48] <shubham> some videos hangs in totem when i use seek baar
[10:48] <Chheapshot> saju_m: it should automatically update to 10.04.3
[10:48] <shubham> vlc is totally stable in that manner!
[10:48] <yurik3829> ahhughez: Have you tried the official guide here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[10:48] <vlt> maxillusionist: I have no graphical windows here.
[10:48] <Chheapshot> saju_m: 10.04.3 isnt a major upgrade
[10:49] <ahhughez> yurik3829, for 3 days straight :'(
[10:49] <shubham> ikonia sidewinder1 even my fingerprint reader isnt workin
[10:49] <Sidewinder1> shubham, I have never had that problem with avi.s, what you describe happens rarely, with other file formats.
[10:49] <shubham> my laptop is hp dv4 1241tx
[10:49] <maxillusionist> can anybody suggest some ebooks on ubuntu
[10:50] <jrib> maxillusionist: help.ubuntu.com
[10:50] <shubham> yaa its usually does with mkv format
[10:50] <maxillusionist> any links wuld be fine
[10:50] <vlt> ikonia: Currently I can login as root. It doesn't seem to be locked. Any idea how to check that?
[10:50] <ikonia> vlt: did you install this machine.
[10:50] <soreau> ahhughez: bluetooth should already work OOTB.. which version of ubuntu are you using?
[10:50] <shubham> and mkv format is gud as far i talk abt clarity yet in small size
[10:50] <ahhughez> soreau,  11.04
[10:50] <Chheapshot> saju_m: type in terminal  lsb_release -a  to check your current version
[10:51] <vlt> ikonia: Yes.
[10:51] <soreau> ahhughez: Did you try running bluetooth-properties?
[10:51] <ikonia> vlt: and it's ubuntu ?
[10:52] <vlt> ikonia: 10.04 LTS
[10:52] <soreau> vlt: Did you check the md5sum of the image you used to install ubuntu?
[10:52] <saju_m> Chheapshot: 10.04 is the current version
[10:53] <vlt> soreau: Installed by debootstrap
[10:53] <ikonia> vlt: who set the root passsword ?
[10:53] <vlt> ikonia: Me
[10:53] <saju_m> Chheapshot: which is the major upgrade ?
[10:53] <ikonia> vlt: ok, so that's why you can login as root
[10:53] <ikonia> vlt: you've disabled the ubuntu security model
[10:54] <soreau> ! pm | ahhughez
[10:54] <ahhughez> my blueze list-devices == http://pastie.org/private/yjackvjjwfzge9hwxq8oq
[10:54] <yurik3829> shubham: Some finger print readers aren't well supported by Linux. Fedora has the best support for them I believe
[10:54] <soreau> ahhughez: You did not answer my previous quewstion
[10:54] <vlt> ikonia: Yes. But how to change the passwd?
[10:54] <soreau> erm..
[10:54] <soreau> question, even
[10:54] <ahhughez> no, have not run bluetooth-properties soreau.. havent seen that in any of the howto guides :/
[10:55] <soreau> ahhughez: Try running it as your normal user
[10:55] <ikonia> vlt: you use the passwd command as you've been trying, but you've clearly changed something (probably when setting the root password the first time)
[10:55] <ahhughez> soreau,  The program 'bluetooth-properties' is currently not installed.  should I do this?
[10:55] <ikonia> vlt: to be honest, I'm of the stance this week, that if think you know enough to set the root password then you should know what you're doing.
[10:55] <vlt> ikonia: What to check first (after /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow, /usr/bin/passwd)?
[10:55] <soreau> ahhughez: It should already have been installed. But since it isn't, install it
[10:55] <shubham> yurik3829: ohh now i have to install fedora?? :O plz can u help out in ubuntu only?
[10:56] <soreau> ikonia: this week only? :)
[10:56] <vlt> ikonia: After installing I just ran "passwd" once to set the root password.
[10:56] <ikonia> vlt: then you should know what you're doing
[10:56] <ikonia> vlt: if you think you know enough to bypass the security model and login as root directly, you should be confident
[10:56] <yurik3829> shubham: You don't have to install Fedora, though if you're having hardware problems with Ubuntu, it's always worth trying a different distro. Fedora is very bleeding edge, so can have good support sometimes.
[10:57] <ikonia> vlt: I'm sure someone else maybe willing to help you
[10:57] <soreau> ikonia: not to mention using debootstrap to install.. ubuntu (?)
[10:57] <shubham> yurik3829: ok and my ir remote also not working it use to work in windows!
[10:58] <Chheapshot> saju_m: Have u installed all the updates what it suggests to you?
[10:58] <Chheapshot> saju_m: The newest version of ubuntu is 11.04 at the moment
[10:59] <saju_m> Chheapshot: that i know
[10:59] <saju_m> 10.04 have LTS
[10:59] <ikonia> !pm > shubham
[11:00] <ahhughez> soreau, w00t (kinda).... I can see the devices... Im not sure they are working tho.... the greyed out bluetooth icon with a padlock on it is probably not the best sign right?
[11:00] <saju_m> Chheapshot: i want to upgrade to latest version(patch) of ubuntu 10.04
[11:00] <soreau> ahhughez: I'm still wondering how you managed to install 10.04 without bluetooth packages
[11:00] <auronandace> saju_m: if you update normally then you are using the latest
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> saju_m: try sudo apt-get update || sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:01] <saju_m> ok,
[11:01] <ahhughez> 11.04 soreau and this is mythbuntu...
[11:02] <soreau> ahhughez: I recommend you ensure all of the following packages are installed: bluez bluez-alsa bluez-cups bluez-gstreamer gnome-bluetooth libbluetooth3 libgnome-bluetooth7 pulseaudio-module-bluetooth
[11:02] <soreau> ahhughez: especially gnome-bluetooth, provided you're using gnome
[11:03] <ahhughez> E: Unable to locate package libgnome-bluetooth7
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> ahhughez: try apt-cache search [package]
[11:03] <soreau> he may have some repos not enabled
[11:04] <crimsonmane> don't forget "sudo" at the front
[11:04] <ahhughez> I have not added any repos
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> crimsonmane: sudo not needed for apt-cache
[11:05] <soreau> ahhughez: Sorry, that package is provided by gnome-bluetooth
[11:05] <soreau> ahhughez: So for now, just try installing gnome-bluetooth if it isn't already
[11:05] <ahhughez> I got that already :) will check the rest now too
[11:05] <soreau> ahhughez: And use bluetooth-properties
[11:06] <maxillusionist> yeah sudo is needed for installing things
[11:06] <maxillusionist> 8)
[11:07] <Chheapshot> or just sudo !! afterwards
[11:07] <maxillusionist> like libraries etc and also packages
[11:07] <Chheapshot> sudo !!  repeats the last command with sudo added to it
[11:08] <soreau> Make me a sandwich. 'No!' sudo !! 'hm, ok'
[11:08] <crimsonmane> lol
[11:09] <crimsonmane> i'll try that when i get home
[11:09] <omidomid_> what's the jockey-backend? i want to install ATI drivers or codecs and it says waiting for jockey-backent to close and nothing happens for hours.
[11:09] <Chheapshot> soreau: lol :D
[11:10] <ahhughez> soreau, all on the way... except  pulseaudio-module-bluetooth  I dont want/have any bluetooth audio output
[11:10] <yellabs-r2> any one here got an wacom bamboo touch and got it working OK ?
[11:10] <fmauro> yellabs-r2: I've tried it like some two weeks ago and didn't get the pressure sensor to work
[11:10] <soreau> ahhughez: All of these packages are installed by default on a normal ubuntu 10.04 install
[11:10] <yellabs-r2> hmm
[11:10] <fmauro> yellabs-r2: and only absolute positions on the tablet... so, nope
[11:11] <yellabs-r2> so i better not invest in one then..
[11:11] <yellabs-r2> to bad
[11:11] <ahhughez> soreau, 11.04
[11:11] <fmauro> yellabs-r2: the regular tablets from wacom work just fine
[11:11] <crimsonmane> yellabs-r2: the Ubuntu that i think is still in Beta has lots more built-in ability to work with that type of stuff.
[11:12] <yellabs-r2> the wacom bamboo touch is the one i need, for librabry setup
[11:12] <soreau> ahhughez: Oh, woops.. I read you wrong. sec
[11:12] <lilnasty> ?
[11:12] <yellabs-r2> exposition material ( multi touch )
[11:12] <fmauro> yellabs-r2: yeah , it's possible they've added the drivers to the new kernel, I'll have a look
[11:12] <soreau> ahhughez: bluez bluez-alsa bluez-cups bluez-gstreamer gnome-bluetooth libbluetooth3 libgnome-bluetooth8 pulseaudio-module-bluetooth
[11:12] <tasslehoff> anyone wiki for how to reinstall on encrypted lvm without formatting? mounting encrypted volumes from the livecd and such.
[11:13] <soreau> ahhughez: Though the libs are probably provided by gnome-bluetooth package
[11:13] <ikonia> tasslehoff: can't be done
[11:13] <yellabs-r2> okey
[11:13] <ahhughez> yep soreau, looks like they are all there... but why dont I get a bluetooth icon on the task/menu/bar thing at the top (what is the name for that anyway?)
[11:13] <tasslehoff> ikonia: hmm. I'm quite certain I've done it before.
[11:13] <michi> hi wer da der de kann
[11:14] <inz> tasslehoff, if you have plenty of disk space, then it can be done without losing data, but not without formatting
[11:14] <soreau> ahhughez: Not sure.. you may need to add something to the panel. Are you using classic gnome with gnome-panel? (not unity)
[11:14] <bazhang> !de | michi
[11:14] <ikonia> tasslehoff: good luck then
[11:15] <tasslehoff> I seem to recall booting the livecd and manually mounting the encrypted volumes to fix grub issues. Couldn't the installer then use the partitions I have unlocked?
[11:15] <fmauro> yellabs-r2: you could try this: http://frankgroeneveld.nl/2010/04/11/get-wacom-bamboo-fun-pen-working-in-ubuntu-lucid/ and go to a store and try it
[11:15] <tasslehoff> ikonia: thanks, it means a lot
[11:15] <yellabs-r2> okey thanks
[11:15] <fmauro> yellabs-r2: np
[11:15] <MonkeyDust> fmauro: .nl? you dutch or belgian?
[11:16] <nbjayme> hi all!  is there a opensource Wiki capable of scribus export/ import?
[11:17] <ahhughez> soreau, somethings busted :'(  I used bluetooth-properties and removed the trackpad, then did 'setup new device'... all went thru said it was 'Finished'.. seemed to go 'bold for about 5sec then greyed out   there was some output in the terminal ** Message: Failed to connect to device /org/bluez/835/hci0/dev_70_CD_60_FE_39_58
[11:18] <soreau> ahhughez: You probably busted it before you started.. by follow all those random guides
[11:18] <ahhughez> and ** Message: has_config_widget 70:CD:60:FE:39:58 HumanInterfaceDeviceService
[11:18] <soreau> ahhughez: Now you might have to reinstall all of those packages
[11:18] <ahhughez> soreau, I didn't deviate from the official guide :'(
[11:19] <ahhughez> you're the only deviation soreau Mwhaaahahaha :)~
[11:19] <soreau> ahhughez: I'll certainly remember not to help you next time
[11:20] <ahhughez> heehehehe :)
[11:20] <ahhughez> jokes aside tho, you recommend I reinstall the bluetooth packages?
[11:21] <soreau> No, I was just typing to see letters scroll up across the chat room
[11:21] <yellabs-r2> okey thanks again
[11:21] <yellabs-r2> bye all
[11:21] <yellabs-r2> :)
[11:21] <ahhughez> please don't tease the animals :) I'll follow your advice and try remove everything I can see bluetooth related soreau - thanks heaps for your help so far :)))))))
[11:23] <ahhughez> can I list all of the packages installed via apt ?
[11:23] <soreau> dpkg -l
[11:24] <tasslehoff> ikonia: I only fixed grub, and never reinstalled Ubuntu, so I take that back. But if I manually unlock the encrypted partition, the installer can't be made to install to the logical volumes?
[11:25] <ahhughez> so I got... bluez bluez-alsa bluez-compat bluez-cups bluez-gstreamer gnome-bluetooth libbluetooth3 libgnome-bluetooth8   remove and then install them or does apt have reinstall command?
[11:26] <iSeeDeadPixels> anyone knows a DB Design tool for linux like access 2007/2010?
[11:26] <vlcchrom> hello, how can i install vlc plugin on chrome? i'm on ubuntu 10.04
[11:26] <openvoid> ahhughez, apt-get install bluez --reinstall
[11:27] <siddhion> I wrote a message on a web form and submitted it but it did not go through and I lost it. Is there any way I can retrieve it from Chrome's cache files?
[11:30] <masterc57> back|track 4 r1 will not create the swap space when the partitioner starts to create the partition/back|track is on a linux kernel
[11:31] <Sidewinder1> iSeeDeadPixels,  You mean Openoffice-Database?
[11:31] <Sidewinder1> iSeeDeadPixels, It should already be installed, by default.
[11:31] <auronandace> !backtrack | masterc57
[11:32] <RobinJ> is there an ubuntu bug fixer in here?
[11:33] <auronandace> !bug | RobinJ
[11:33] <RobinJ> yeah i filed a bug auronandace, problem is that it's being throughly ignored on launchpad and that it's a rather critical one
[11:34] <tasslehoff> inz: what method were you thinking of? it's the encrypted home volume I want to keep
[11:34] <auronandace> RobinJ: what is the bug?
[11:35] <RobinJ> auronandace: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/858916
[11:35] <iSeeDeadPixels> Sidewinder1: i only have LibreOffice
[11:35] <ahhughez> hey soreau, you think this is a bad sign?  ** (bluetooth-properties:7436): WARNING **: Could not open RFKILL control device, please verify your installation
[11:35] <auronandace> !11.10 | RobinJ
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> RobinJ: oneiric discussion in #ubuntu+1 please
[11:35] <Sidewinder1> iSeeDeadPixels, 11.04?
[11:35] <RobinJ> -.-
[11:36] <RobinJ> a bugfixer is a bugfixer, no matter what version
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> RobinJ: could try a different distro to see if it is ubuntu at fault, something like Mandriva or somesuch
[11:36] <RobinJ> ActionParsnip: not a problem with 11.04
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> RobinJ: oneiric ANYTHING is offtopic here
[11:37] <iSeeDeadPixels> Sidewinder1: yup
[11:38] <Sidewinder1> iSeeDeadPixels, Doesn't Libreoffice contain "Base"?
[11:39] <nailox> hi all. Im getting a message in terminal from syslogd sayint CPU temp and speed is normal. it shows the msg every 5min. how can i stop this? Im on a VPS
[11:39] <auronandace> !info libreoffice-base | Sidewinder1
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> nailox: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc   please
[11:40] <iSeeDeadPixels> Sidewinder1: nop
[11:40] <nailox> ActionParsnip command not found. its ubuntu 10.4 LAMP
[11:40] <Sidewinder1> auronandace, Yes, I know; I was trying to address iSeeDeadPixels 's issues. :-)
[11:41] <inz> tasslehoff, in short: create new encrypted partition, copy everything there, reconfigure few things
[11:41] <auronandace> iSeeDeadPixels: sudo apt-get install libreoffice-base
[11:41] <iSeeDeadPixels> oh, that
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> nailox: are there any bugs reported?
[11:41] <Sidewinder1> iSeeDeadPixels, Have a look here, maybe Base is a component that you need to download? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libreoffice
[11:41] <inz> tasslehoff, probably easier to backup and reinstall though
[11:41] <iSeeDeadPixels> libreoffice doent contain db design tool
[11:42] <auronandace> iSeeDeadPixels: sudo apt-get install libreoffice-base
[11:42] <tasslehoff> inz: yeah.
[11:42] <nailox> ActionParsnip: can I pm u ?
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> nailox: if you want
[11:42] <Sidewinder1> iSeeDeadPixels, Please follow auronandace ' advice.
[11:43] <iSeeDeadPixels> ahh
[11:45] <CyON> hai all , can anyone help me to upgrade my BIOS ? I'm using HP dv2000 intel centrino Duo.
[11:47] <Sidewinder1> CyON,  Perhaps #hardware may be a better channel?
[11:48] <CyON> Sidewinder1: thanks!!
[11:48] <Sidewinder1> My pleasure.
[11:48] <gnomeunity> hello, i think i have unity, and i'd like to go back to my old looking gnome; how can i do that?
[11:49] <fritsch> gnomeunity: logout and choose gnome classic
[11:49] <auronandace> !classic | gnomeunity
[11:49] <ahhughez> soreau, thanks heaps... but I think this has me beaten. I think I might have to go the the mailing list to try and obtain some verbose logging... bluetooth-properties has no options
[11:49] <auronandace> gnomeunity: bear in mind that from 11.10 onwards there will not be the option of gnome2
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> gnomeunity: Unity2D replaces Classic session in oneiric
[11:51] <CyON> Sidewinder1: there is no replay from that channel what can I do ?
[11:51] <Sidewinder1> CyON, Be patient or try back later?
[11:51] <gnomeunity> auronandace: what do you mean?
[11:52] <gnomeunity> ActionParsnip: in one?
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> gnomeunity: how do you mean?
[11:52] <CyON> Sidewinder1: ok ...is there any other channel related to hardware/BIOS/HP etc..
[11:52] <auronandace> gnomeunity: the next release of ubuntu and onwards won't give you the option of using gnome 2
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> gnomeunity: Ubuntu Classic is an option in Natty and will make it look like the old school Gnome desktop. This is removed in Oneiric and instead Unity2D is in place
[11:54] <gnomeunity> so i'll be obligated to use the weird looking unity?
[11:54] <Sidewinder1> CyON, I don't know; have you tries 'searching' for a "how to" to flash the BIOS in your on your particular MOBO?
[11:54] <Sidewinder1> tried, even.
[11:54] <compdoc> gnomeunity, no, there are other version of ubuntu with different desktops
[11:54] <gnomeunity> compdoc: but gnome-shell won't be developped anymore?
[11:55] <compdoc> I dont know about that
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> gnomeunity: its installable extra
[11:55] <auronandace> gnomeunity: gnome3 will be available but not gnome2
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> !info gnome-shell oneiric
[11:56] <gnomeunity> i don't get the differences between gnome2 gnome3 gnome-shell unity?
[11:56] <handsome> hello
[11:57] <sagaci> handsome, hi
[11:57] <mactimes> Hi there.  I'm looking for a FTPD with WUI, which users management is independent from the local users (i.e., stored in a database or something like that).  A friend of mine recommended me one once, but he just can't remember.  Any ideas?
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> !ftpd
[11:58] <handsome> i'm a newer   ,please
[11:58] <handsome> help me
[11:58] <Sidewinder1> !ask | handsome
[11:59] <handsome> oh year, i see
[11:59] <mactimes> ActionParsnip It had some sort of WUI front-end for administration, but also had a front-end for users to log in and upload/download files.
[11:59] <phoenixsampras> HELP
[12:00] <phoenixsampras> how to change the default image viewer for GIMP ?? HELPP SOS
[12:01] <yurik3829> phoenixsampras: Right click on an image, go to properties, and you can choose the default program to open it with. Note: You have to do this for every file type.
[12:02] <phoenixsampras> thank you brother
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> mactimes: not sure there, you can use nautilus to mount the FTP folder and access it like a normal folder
[12:02] <phoenixsampras> wow
[12:02] <phoenixsampras> worrker
[12:03] <mactimes> ActionParsnip It's not for me to use.  I have some "slow" end users who could take advantage of this WUI.
[12:04] <somethinginteres> hi all, I'm trying to convert a tif image to pdf. Does anyone know a command line tool that can do this? Thanks.
[12:04] <fmauro> MonkeyDust: it's just the server I'm connected to, I'm from switzerland
[12:04] <mactimes> ActionParsnip They're not smart enough to use sshfs, it seems.
[12:05] <openvoid> somethinginteres, tiff2pdf
[12:06] <somethinginteres> openvoid: thank you! Was hoping to find something like that.
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> mactimes: http://www.debianadmin.com/proftp-server-web-interfacefrontend-or-gui-tools.html
[12:07] <Odaym> where does grub-md5-crypt usually reside?
[12:07] <Odaym> I did a locate and nothing came up
[12:07] <mactimes> ActionParsnip I'll take a look.  Thank you.
[12:07] <compdoc> Odaym, always updatedb first
[12:07] <Odaym> ok
[12:07] <compdoc> sudo updatedb
[12:07] <Odaym> still nothing
[12:08] <Odaym> is it a package I need to get?
[12:08] <compdoc> not familure with grub-md5-crypt, but most things grub are in /boot
[12:09] <Odaym> it's a way to generate a password to set for editing grub at the prompt
[12:11] <Guest19044> HI
[12:11] <newman> Anyone here with natty and a working Eclipse install?
[12:12] <Sidewinder1> !anyone | newman
[12:13] <DarkForest> !details
[12:16] <newman> Oh come on.. Ok, I have natty and I'm trying to make Eclipse work as my environment for PHP development. I've tried 3.5 from repos, but then I can't get Install new software window to open, I've since tried to unpack&run 3.6, 3.7 and 4.1 as well. These versions freeze as I try to interact with files. And when exiting eclipse, as well.
[12:16] <newman> Sun jdk and openjdk installed, rather up to date ;)
[12:17] <jrib> newman: what does "I can't get the Install new software window to open" mean?
[12:17] <newman> jrib: I click on "Install new software" in the menu. The menu then disappears as it should, and I can keep on clicking in the Eclipse window, but no Install window ever appears.
[12:18] <jrib> newman: what menu?
[12:18] <jrib> newman: is this some eclipse menu?
[12:19] <jrib> newman: I will return shortly.
[12:20] <gnomeunity> can someone please explain me the differences between gnome2 gnome3 gnome-shell unity; are there different desktop manager? which ones are in use now?
[12:20] <pratz_> hey guys i have installed vim on ubuntu but i do not have all the features, but varient i have to install to get all the features ??
[12:20] <newman> jrib: Yes, the Eclipse Help menu->"Install new software...". The Install window appears in newer eclipse versions, but they freeze when I'm working with them instead =[
[12:21] <faLUCE> hi, I added "/home/user/my_script" to "startup applications" of the gnome menu. Unfortunately, it is not executed after login. why? I can execute the script with command line.
[12:21] <Odaym> gnomeunity, there is no GnomeUnity. Unity is Unity, and Gnome is Gnome
[12:21] <pratz_> hey guys i have installed vim on ubuntu but i do not have all the features, but varient i have to install to get all the features ??
[12:21] <RaTTuS|BIG> faLUCE - check .xsession-errors file it will tell you why
[12:22] <auronandace> Odaym: unity is built on top of gnome
[12:22] <Odaym> Gnome2 is Gnome2 and it is no longer used in most modern distros (ArchLinux and Fedora moved to Gnome3)
[12:22] <Odaym> are you sure?
[12:22] <RaTTuS|BIG> faLUCE but you probably need to do /usr/bin/gnome-terminal -e /home/usr/script
[12:22] <cobra-the-joker> hey guys .... i am using 10.04 here ... can i get the later artwork and GTK themes for later versions ( 10.10 , 11.04 ) ?
[12:22] <Odaym> that's true, auronandace
[12:23] <Odaym> but it ain't Gnome :)
[12:23] <Odaym> it's Unity
[12:23] <Odaym> and there is no Gnome Unity
[12:23] <Odaym> there's Gnome, then there's Unity
[12:23] <LjL> Unity is a shell for GNOME.
[12:24] <pratz_> hey guys i have installed vim on ubuntu but i do not have all the features, but varient i have to install to get all the features ??
[12:24] <faLUCE> RaTTuS|BIG: I understand the problem but I don't want to see a gnome-terminal in background
[12:24] <RaTTuS|BIG> pratz_ what features do you want
[12:24] <pratz_> RaTTuS|BIG: -clipboard
[12:24] <faLUCE> RaTTuS|BIG: is it possible to hide the gnome-terminal ?
[12:25] <RaTTuS|BIG> faLUCE - if you just run the command it will run iun the background - you dont need to use the terminal
[12:26] <faLUCE> RaTTuS|BIG: but you said "/usr/bin/gnome-terminal -e /home/usr/script"
[12:26] <pratz_> RaTTuS|BIG: when i do :version in the list i get -clipboard, that mean it is disabled in the build, any suggestions ??
[12:26] <RaTTuS|BIG> pratz_ I have no Idea
[12:26] <pratz_> RaTTuS|BIG: ok
[12:27] <faLUCE> RaTTuS|BIG: I don't understand what to add in "startup applications" in order to run /home/user/myscript
[12:27] <RaTTuS|BIG> faLUCE - yes the terminal will open a new tereminal and run your script - if you just want it to run with no terminal [depends on your script] then you can just do /usr/home/script - but check the .xsession errors to see what is erring - as it should say
[12:28] <RaTTuS|BIG> also check ps axOT to see if it's runing
[12:29] <faLUCE> RaTTuS|BIG: ok thanks let's try
[12:32] <faLUCE> RaTTuS|BIG: gnome-session[1870]: WARNING: Could not launch application 'RestartScripts.desktop': Unable to start application: Failed to execute child process "/home/ocs/Sistema/SysScripts/./foo" (Permission denied)
[12:33] <faLUCE> RaTTuS|BIG: which permissions should I add to foo ?
[12:33] <RaTTuS|BIG> umm - can you run it normall from a terminal session?
[12:33] <cobra-the-joker> how can i get 11.10 gtk themes ?
[12:33] <faLUCE> RaTTuS|BIG: yes
[12:33] <onez> is ext4 better than ext3?
[12:34] <jrib> newman: This advice assumes you are using the repository version and have properly removed the other versions you said you tried.  1) check bugs.ubuntu.com for a bug.  2) run eclipse from a terminal, attempt to access the menu, and look for interesting output 3) have you ever executed eclipse as root or using sudo?  4)  (this is related to 3) check the permissions and ownership of files eclipse uses,
[12:34] <jrib> especially where it puts user-installed plug-ins when using that menu
[12:34] <RaTTuS|BIG> umm - you run it as :- ./ocs/Sisetma/SysScripts/./foo
[12:35] <Amin_> hi, I use Transmission to download torrents but I've got to use vpn to override ISP limits. I don't have to use vpn in windows-utorrent but in ubuntu it limits my download speed with Transmission and Vuze. what's the problem?!
[12:35] <compdoc> vpns are slow
[12:35] <Jasonn> compdoc: mine isnt :D
[12:35] <compdoc> they emulate a 10baseT network
[12:35] <compdoc> Jasonn, what you use?
[12:35] <faLUCE> RaTTuS|BIG: I can run it from a terminal session in this way:   /home/ocs/Sistema/SysScripts/./foo
[12:36] <Jasonn> compdoc: openvpn-as
[12:36] <alfmatos> hi all
[12:36] <Amin_> sure they are. the problem is that I download at high speed with utorrent on windows but in ubuntu I have to use vpn.
[12:36] <Jasonn> Only allows for 2 clients, but thats enough for me
[12:36] <alfmatos> the oneiric beta 2 file is not downloadable ATM
[12:36] <alfmatos> 403 Forbidden
[12:36] <Pici> alfmatos : Oneiric/11.10 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[12:36] <Jasonn> compdoc: why, what do you use?
[12:36] <Sidewinder1> Amin_, If your ISP throttles you, if it were me, I'd find a new ISP; kinda' Off-topic, though.
[12:36] <imanameen> hi all :)
[12:37] <RaTTuS|BIG> kk - I'm not sure sorry ...
[12:37] <newman> jrib: Ok, thanks, working on things :)
[12:37] <Amin_> Sidewinder1, but why on windows it does'nt limit me? by the way I'm at university using wifi, I have no chance.
[12:37] <RaTTuS|BIG> time for coffee
[12:38] <imanameen> is this room about english literature?
[12:39] <Sidewinder1> Amin_, I can't really answer that, sorry. Unless it has something to do with port forwarding, within your ubuntu torrent clients.
[12:39] <Amin_> imanameen, lol yes !
[12:39] <imanameen> phew
[12:40] <imanameen> anybody interested in mystery plays?
[12:41] <Sidewinder1> !ot > imanameen
[12:41] <imanameen> how?
[12:42] <imanameen> im new here
[12:42]  * Sidewinder1 Can't figure out how to mute/ignore the bloody FloodBots. :'(
[12:42] <n4dsp> how do you change the linux 'bloop' sound?
[12:42] <Sidewinder1> !ot | imanameen
[12:43] <imanameen> ahh
[12:43] <Sidewinder1> :D
[12:44] <faLUCE> RaTTuS|BIG: it's probably a bug. a workaround would be using an invisible application launcher, like gnome-terminal ... but which one?
[12:45] <RaTTuS|BIG> faLUCE - give me 5 mins I'll just try something here
[12:45] <faLUCE> thanks RaTTuS|BIG
[12:46] <Sidewinder1> n4dsp, Find the location of bloop.snd (or whatever it's name is) rename it; then pick a sound of your choosing and put it in the same dir and rename it bloop.snd.
[12:46] <n4dsp> thanks
[12:46] <Sidewinder1> n4dsp, At least that's how I would do it.
[12:49] <imanameen> nothing works here :(
[12:50] <RaTTuS|BIG> faLUCE - from a tereminal try /usr/bin/gnome-terminal --geometry 60x50+100+100  -e /script  ... then if that works you could try in the startup 2x2+1200+1200
[12:51] <imanameen> 33 f from iraq
[12:52] <Pici> imanameen: This is a support channel for Ubuntu, not a dating service.
[12:52] <imanameen> i know :)
[12:53] <imanameen> just wanted to introduce myself :)
[12:53] <Pici> imanameen: Not really needed here.  If you just want to chat, theres #ubuntu-offtopic.
[12:53] <ironhalik> Hmm anyone knows a way to convert midi to pc speaker beeps using 'beep'? :>
[12:54] <imanameen> how do i find that ?:(
[12:54] <conceptronic> hi is there any software  for print from Android?
[12:54] <Nika> how to use PPA?(add to my system?)
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> !addppa
[12:54] <Pici> imanameen: type: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:54] <Nika> thanks
[12:54] <Sidewinder1> imanameen, just type "/join #ubuntu-offtopic"
[12:54] <furyoshonen> I am getting a periodic network disconnect, where my network connection will disconnect and say that there are "no networking devices located"
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> conceptronic: some apps in the market to print to various printers
[12:54] <imanameen> thank u :)
[12:55] <furyoshonen> how should I go about problem solving for this issue?
[12:55] <conceptronic> action : whats the software name?
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> furyoshonen: when it drops, run:  dmesg | tail    see if it gives you any clues
[12:56] <Sidewinder1> furyoshonen, Wireless?
[12:56] <furyoshonen> ActionParsnip thanks.
[12:56] <furyoshonen> Sidewinderl no LAN
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> conceptronic: http://www.cnet.com/8301-19736_1-10272545-251.html
[12:57] <furyoshonen> or... wired
[12:57] <Sidewinder1> furyoshonen, Loose connection or bad wire, perhaps?
[12:57] <ujjain> Does the opensource ATI driver support dual screen?
[12:57] <ujjain> and/or does the default VGA driver? (non-ATi)
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> furyoshonen: disabling ipv6 helps things :)
[12:59] <furyoshonen> sidewinderl I don't think so because restarting resolves the problem
[12:59] <ujjain> What is the name of the default VGA drivers in Ubuntu?
[12:59] <nuclearworm> hello, how to know the tv stream url from a web page?
[12:59] <ujjain> I am expecting this to go wrong ^
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> ujjain: ati or radeon are common
[12:59] <Amin_>  hi, I use Transmission to download torrents but I've got to use vpn to override ISP limits. I don't have to use vpn in windows-utorrent but in ubuntu it limits my download speed with Transmission and Vuze. what's the problem?!
[13:00] <ujjain> ActionParsnip: k, :)
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> Amin_: different drivers, different OS
[13:00] <Sidewinder1> Amin_, Did you research the "port-forwarding" situation as suggested earlier?
[13:01] <Amin_> Sidewinder1, I don't have an idea? what exactly should I do?
[13:03] <ujjain> Can I just remove the old driver and install the new one and hope Xorg.conf will still be correct?
[13:03] <Sidewinder1> Amin_, A step by step on port forwarding is a little beyond the scope of this channel; you might want to do a search for port forwarding, as it pertains to your router. and or wireless card.
[13:04] <nuclearworm> what is the embed code of a video stream?
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> nuclearworm: I'd ask in a html channel
[13:05] <DarkForest> Install a extension called 'video hunter' in firefox, and this extension can show the video url
[13:06] <nuclearworm> ActionParsnip, ok , thanks
[13:08] <nuclearworm> ActionParsnip, do you know an html channel?
[13:09] <Pici> nuclearworm: #html
[13:09] <Sidewinder1> nuclearworm, If you only want to download the video stream, have a look for Firefox's add-on/extension of "UnPlug."
[13:11] <faLUCE> RaTTuS|BIG: this is a workaround and, in addition, the terminal window is not invisible....
[13:11] <Amin_> is there anyway to bypass wifi connection download speed? (by deafult, the router gives 10mbps to each client)
[13:11] <alexd285> hello, I run 11.10 and Alt+Ctrl+Shift+R on GS isn't working on me, anyone else has the same issue?
[13:13] <Pici> alexd285 : Oneiric/11.10 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[13:13] <alexd285> Pici, ok
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> Amin_: how do you mean 'bypass'?
[13:13] <nuclearworm> Sidewinder1 , i would like to watch tv streams on vlc instead of on a web page
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> Amin_: if the wireless link is 10Mb, you cannot go faster than that
[13:14] <notlostyet> Hey, I've just added the firefox-stable PPA but no Firefox 7? What gives?
[13:14] <ikonia> notlostyet: ask the PPA maintainers
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> notlostyet: run:  sudo apt-get update    then retry
[13:15] <notlostyet> I did that
[13:15] <ikonia> notlostyet: ask the PPA maintainers
[13:15] <mia158> hi there
[13:15] <ujjain> Can somebody please help me? Ubuntu is just always giving me pain when I try to change something.
[13:16] <ujjain> I uninstalled proprietrary VGA driver and installed the opensource version.
[13:16] <ikonia> ujjain: just state your problem
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> notlostyet: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc     please
[13:16] <ujjain> It doesn't boot anymore, I can press alt-f2 to get into this shell.
[13:16] <notlostyet> ActionParsnip: natty
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> notlostyet: ok then visit https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable    notice which releases are supported....
[13:16] <Sidewinder1> nuclearworm, I guess you could install UnPlug in Firefox; download the video; and watch it in vlc. But that sounds like more trouble than it's worth.
[13:16] <ujjain> I followed many different instructions  and tried the failsafe xorg.conf.
[13:17] <mia158> can someone please point me to a doc for configuring com port settings 9600/8/none/1 to connect to a switch console port? I am using ubuntu 10.10 and would like to connect to the switch using gnome-terminal or terminator
[13:17] <ujjain> Can somebody maybe lookup how I can recreate xorg.conf? dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver (I have it in text-file) doesn't do it, and failsafe xorg.conf doesn't boot.
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> notlostyet: which (If you'd actually checked the PPA) you would have seen. That's "what gives"
[13:17] <ikonia> ujjain: if you remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf it will fall back to auto detect
[13:18] <notlostyet> So older OS versions get newer software first
[13:18] <notlostyet> Makes sense
[13:18] <ujjain> ikonia: I will rename xorg.conf and see what happens, thanks!
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> notlostyet: its a 3rd party PPA, there is no control
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> notlostyet: firefox 7 is in Oneiric
[13:18] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:18] <ikonia> notlostyet: one more time "ask the PPA maintainers"
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> notlostyet: that PPA is maintained by some dude, its not an official repo so there is zero jusistiction of what releases they have to support
[13:19] <dean> Hi all I was wondering whether you can run mac alongside ubuntu on a non apple machine?
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> notlostyet: its nothing to do with canonical
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> dean: I'd check the apple licensing first
[13:20] <ujjain> ikonia: thanks, you are my hero!
[13:20] <dean> ActionParsnip, Ok cool thanks are you aware if vbox runs mac os?
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> notlostyet: so you "makes sense" comment is worthless
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> dean: not sure, I have zero interest in the OS
[13:21] <notlostyet> I do enjoy this non-helpful linux elitism
[13:21] <notlostyet> here was me thinking this was a general ubuntu chat room
[13:21] <dean> ActionParsnip, No probs thanks anyway
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> notlostyet: how is it elitism?
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> notlostyet: no, this is the official support channel for ubuntu
[13:21] <ikonia> notlostyet: it is, that's why I gave you the correct information of talk to the PPA maintainer
[13:22] <notlostyet> because you probably know how you can help me but you're being unhelpful simply because you're smug and don't like people you think are newbies
[13:22] <darkriszty> hi, can someone help me out with a surround related audio problem?
[13:22] <ikonia> notlostyet: no, the answer is to contact the PPA maintainer, only he knows what it supports and why
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> notlostyet: lets break it down: you assed a 3rd party repo maintained by a non-canonical member and then moan it doesn't support your release. Think about it....
[13:22] <ikonia> notlostyet: it's genuine advice, it's not something "we" the community control,
[13:22] <darkriszty> my rear speakers are not working, the front l+r, center and subwoofer are ok though
[13:22] <notlostyet> I don't care about the PPA
[13:23] <ikonia> notlostyet: sorry, have I missunderstood, I thought you where asking for help with a PPA
[13:23] <ikonia> notlostyet: what's the issue ?
[13:23] <notlostyet> the fact that some of the biggest Ubuntu user websites are suggesting it blindly is irrelevent I suppose
[13:23] <ikonia> lets try to help
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> notlostyet: you can add it manually if you want, there are downloadable binaries on the firefox site
[13:23] <notlostyet> I want to install Firefox 7 on natty
[13:23] <notlostyet> Simples
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> notlostyet: I have instructed how to get it
[13:23] <ikonia> notlostyet: what version of ubuntu are you running ?
[13:23] <notlostyet> natty
[13:23] <ikonia> notlostyet: ok, you need to find a repo that contains it
[13:23] <ikonia> notlostyet: at the moment there is no official package for natty
[13:23] <notlostyet> Do you know of one?
[13:24] <ikonia> notlostyet: so you have a limited choice of using a 3rd party repo
[13:24] <darkriszty> can you recommend another channel for audio related issues?
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> notlostyet: i'll write you a script
[13:25] <pielstick> hi bro
[13:25] <chroot> hi , i can't find the "inittab"  in ubuntu , where is it
[13:25] <OerHeks> notlostyet, see this page with ppa and instructions > https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable
[13:25] <notlostyet> OerHeks: I've tried that PPA
[13:26] <Sidewinder1> !sound | darkriszty
[13:26] <pielstick> anybody have already prepared progs for wifi pentest?
[13:27] <darkriszty> ok, thx
[13:27] <ActionParsnip>  notlostyet: cd /opt; sudo wget ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/7.0/linux-i686/en-GB/firefox-7.0.tar.bz2;sudo tar jxvf ./firefox-7.0.tar.bz2; sudo rm ./firefox-7.0.tar.bz2 ; sudo ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox-7.0
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> notlostyet: OerHekscheck what releases the PPA uses
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> darkriszty: all it does it download the binary archive which YOU could have done, then puts a link in /usr/bin    nothinig hard there at all
[13:28] <notlostyet> Fuck it, i'll reinstall Arch
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> what a douche
[13:29] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: easy there
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> well you do someone a favour and they don't even say thanks
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> those are the worst kind of people
[13:29] <pielstick> oi , somebody know a names of programs for wifi pentest?
[13:30] <Sidewinder1> ActionParsnip, Some are like that. :'(
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> pielstick: I'd ask in #backtrack-linux
[13:30] <pielstick> why not here
[13:30] <maalac> pielstick: you can also try blackbuntu
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> Sidewinder1: even in real life i get right up to people if they are ignorant like that, no need for it at all
[13:30] <Sidewinder1> !backtrack > pielstick
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> pielstick: its possibly illegal activity
[13:31] <Sidewinder1> ActionParsnip, Agreed.
[13:31] <darkriszty> ubottu: it seems like i've tried almost all of those things
[13:31] <ujjain> Ubuntu: I hate you.
[13:31] <darkriszty> :)
[13:31] <pielstick> )))
[13:31] <chroot> is there anybody who knows how to change the runlevel in ubuntu?
[13:31] <Stanley00> ujjain: why?
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> !runlevel
[13:31] <jamesw> hello, i enjoy the use of the cpu frequency scaling applet, unfortunately, i have 8 different cpu cores i must manage. does anyone know of a way to combine them into one setting?
[13:32] <forceflow> jamesw: manually setting their scaling governor by writing to dev/sys/cpu or something like that
 pielstick: its possibly illegal activity
[13:32] <ujjain> Stanley00: 1) opensoruce driver doesn't do multi-monitor, proprietary driver needs lots of hacks 2) Ubuntu does not shut down anymore 3) I always get logged out within 10min 4) Sooo many issues all the time and OS not booting anymore.
[13:32] <pielstick> when its happen?
[13:33] <faLUCE> RaTTuS|BIG: just found where the problem. myscript is in an usb attached memory.   /home/user/mydir/myscript <---- mydir is not a real dir but only a link to the usb memory. If I copy the script into a real dir, it works. but why doesn't it work in thie usb dev too ?
[13:33] <chroot> ubottu,i want to start into text mode , not gui , so i want to change that inittab
[13:33] <jvgeli> error: no video mode activated on Natty . Any suggestions?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> chroot: add the boot option:  text
[13:33] <pielstick> pentest of wifi is full legal activity
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> pielstick: its potentially illegal
[13:33] <ujjain> chroot: You can use a rescue disk, or boot in single user mode.
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> !text | chroot
[13:34] <littlebear> Sidewinder1: hm?
[13:34] <littlebear> Sidewinder1: 4hours ago you said even?
[13:34] <chroot> is this means that the /default/grub is eq to /etc/inittab ?
[13:34] <chroot> in ubuntu
[13:35] <Sidewinder1> littlebear, Yes, I accidently hit the "Tab" key after typing little; sorry...
[13:35] <pielstick> nobody answer at this channel  : blackbuntu
[13:35] <jvgeli> error: no video mode activated on Natty . Any suggestions?
[13:35] <ikonia> pielstick: pardon ?
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> chroot: the /etc/default/grub is the place to define boot options
[13:35] <pielstick> shall waid
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> chroot: the boot option you need to add in the quotes with:  quiet splash     is: text
[13:36] <Tnud> I'm having trouble understanding how I can extend my boot partion with gparted in live CD mode. Resize sure doesn't work :/
[13:36] <chroot> yeah , i have tried that , and worked ,
[13:36] <Tnud> I've just used clonezilla to move my installation to a new hdd btw
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> chroot: where is the issue?
[13:37] <chroot> i just wonder is this equal betwen the inittab and grub
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> !boot | chroot
[13:37] <chroot> they all change bootmod
[13:37] <dweez> pielstick, Blackbuntu's official IRC channel is on another irc network
[13:38] <Sidewinder1> Tnud, It may have something to do with the new hdds, UUID being different form the old hdds, UUID?
[13:38] <dweez> don't know if it's allowed to post the network here or not
[13:38] <brahmana> Hi all
[13:38] <chroot> ActionParsnip, i am leaning linux , and the teacher said inittab , but i do the same things in grub ,
[13:38] <brahmana> I am running Linux #27-Ubuntu SMP Wed Mar 2 22:53:38 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:38] <chroot> ActionParsnip, so i think it is equal between grub and inttab file
[13:38] <dweez> chroot, so you're wanting to change the runlevel?
[13:39] <brahmana> i.e. Ubuntu lucid on a t1.micro instance on Amazon EC2
[13:39] <brahmana> It is the one available under free tier and comes with 8GB disk space.
[13:39] <chroot> already changed , and now , i want to figure out the relationship between the two file
[13:40] <Tnud> Sidewinder1: I dunno, it's odd. How would one usually go about resizing the boot partion? I can only make it smaller
[13:40] <brahmana> I attached an additional 100GB disk (which is /dev/sdm) and mounted in at /d/data1
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> chroot: no, the grub file is only to set grub options, the boot services are managed differentlt. The only reason I mentioned the file as it achieved the text boot which you wanted
[13:40] <Tnud> even though I have lots of unallocated space
[13:40] <brahmana> df -h shows that the default disk of 8GB, mounted on my root partition, is almost full
[13:41] <chroot> ActionParsnip, but they all worked ,one in redhat ditro  , and the other in ubuntu .
[13:41] <Smilex> I'm trying to push a file into a .jar package with the File Archiver software provided with ubuntu, but it won't push one of the files in, how do I open the archiver with my terminal to see the output?
[13:41] <brahmana> I tried to dig around to see what is taking up disk space, but du -csh doesn't give me anything apart from the 14GB being used on the additional drive (/dev/sdm1)
[13:42] <brahmana> How can I find out what is taking so much of space on my first disk (/dev/sda1) of 8GB?
[13:43] <Stanley00> brahmana: use baobab, it's GUI tool...
[13:43] <dweez> Chris_0076, modifying the runlevel in inittab works in redhat but I believe Ubuntu has replaced it
[13:43] <brahmana> Stanley00: this is a server machine and I have logged in to it via ssh.. so can't use GUI tools
[13:44] <dweez> chroot, read this page ==> http://www.debianadmin.com/debian-and-ubuntu-linux-run-levels.html
[13:44] <dweez> runlevel 3 is cli (text) mode
[13:44] <chroot> dweez,ok
[13:44] <dweez> ActionParsnip got disconnected.
[13:44] <zykotick9> !runlevels
[13:44] <scarleo> brahmana, cd to a folder on /dev/sda1 and run du -h again
[13:45] <dweez> lol, thanks zykotick9, where were you a few moments ago?
[13:45] <Stanley00> brahmana: use du without the -s switch, I think
[13:45] <brahmana> scarleo: did that on each folder present in / - they are showing the right numbers. Only df -h shows that it is 100%
[13:45] <shubham> hey how to remove print$ from sambha sharing
[13:45] <shubham> ?
[13:46] <chroot> ubottu, ok , got it
[13:46] <brahmana> Stanley00: without -s I will get a list of all files, not useful
[13:46] <scarleo> brahmana, what is 100%?
[13:46] <chroot> ubottu,
[13:46]  * brahmana hopes he can paste two lines here without being kicked.. !
[13:46] <brahmana> scarleo: here it is
[13:46] <brahmana> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda1             7.9G  7.8G     0 100% /
[13:47] <Stanley00> brahmana: ah, sorry, I didnt understand you from the beginning... haha
[13:47] <dweez> chroot, ubottu is a bot
[13:47] <Sidewinder1> !ubottu > chroot
[13:47] <shubham> how to remove print$ from sambha sharing
[13:48] <brahmana> scarleo: that is the first line of output from df -h which shows that /dev/sda1 mounted on / is 100% (which I am pretty sure isn't)
[13:48] <brahmana> Stanley00: nm
[13:48] <scarleo> brahmana, dont run df -h, run du -h
[13:48] <scarleo> brahmana, from / if you want to see ecvery folder and file
[13:49] <Chheapshot> brahmana: doesnt ubuntu come witha disk usage analyzer build in. A tool with nice UI
[13:49] <nick_name> hello
[13:49] <brahmana> scarleo: No, I don't want to see each and every file. I wan't to see disk level utilization
[13:49] <aajgar> Hi. anyone know how to create a bootable USB with uefi support ? I am using unetbootin but my laptop is not booting from the USB. I have a Lenovo T420 with windows 7 .
[13:49] <brahmana> Cherothald: server machine.. logged in via ssh.. no gui
[13:49] <brahmana> Chheapshot: ^^
[13:50] <chroot> and
[13:50] <brahmana> sorry Cherothald
[13:50] <scarleo> brahmana, you said you wanted to find WHAT is taking space, not how much, correct?
[13:50] <zykotick9> brahmana, this might help -- "cd /" then run "du -sh * 2>/dev/null" to see what directories are taking all the space
[13:50] <chroot> i have a small problem when write shell script
[13:50] <brahmana> zykotick9: Did that and the only one taking space is the /d/data1 where my second drive is mounted
[13:50] <RaTTuS|BIG> du / | sort -nr
[13:51] <chroot> and is there anybody who could explain to me the reason
[13:51] <binni> is it possible to uninstall/remove what was installed last time through apt-get/synaptic? (e.g. two packages and 10 dependencies)
[13:51] <brahmana> zykotick9: except for /d/data1, other directories will add up to 1 GB
[13:52] <chroot> binni, yes
[13:52] <alles-wird-gut> hmm
[13:52] <chroot> binni, use apt-get remove filename
[13:53] <compdoc> use -purge
[13:53] <chroot> of apt-get purge filename
[13:53] <compdoc> apt-get leaves lots to stuff behind otherwise
[13:53] <shubham_rathi> how to remove print$ folder from samba sharing??
[13:53] <chroot> who can shell scripting
[13:54] <binni> chroot: well I meant remove them all in one command without having to write in the name of all the packages, like apt-get purge history-last or last-apt_get, but what is the difference between remove and purge?
[13:54] <Sidewinder1> binni, If installed with Synaptic, simply highlite what you want to remove, click "completely remove' than click "apply".
[13:54] <shubham_rathi> please anyone can tell me?
[13:54] <chroot> HTKMFCC=true   ;   if $HTKMFCC ;then ....
[13:55] <chroot> is this script right
[13:55] <chroot> ?
[13:55] <Pici> chroot: #bash is the best place to ask shell scripting questions.
[13:55] <chroot> ok , thank you .
[13:55] <shubham_rathi> ??
[13:55] <shubham_rathi> how to remove print$ folder from samba sharing?
[13:55] <chroot> join #bash
[13:56] <chroot> Pici , one more question , use what command to join #bash, thanks
[13:56] <Pici> chroot: /join #bash
[13:56] <chroot> ok
[13:57] <shubham_rathi> ?>?
[13:57] <shubham_rathi> anybody plz reply!!
[13:57] <shubham_rathi> :P
[13:57] <Pici> !patience | shubham_rathi
[13:58] <Sidewinder1> !pm | shubham_rathi
[13:59] <shubham_rathi> ;'(
[13:59] <Sidewinder1> :-)
[13:59] <shubham_rathi> :'(
[13:59] <aajgar> anyone successful in installing ubuntu with uefi bios on a dual boot configuration with Win 7 ?
[13:59] <shubham_rathi> !pm
[14:00] <shubham_rathi> !patience
[14:00] <shubham_rathi> nobody answers me!!
[14:01] <Pici> shubham_rathi: if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you.
[14:01] <shubham_rathi> lol hii pici!!!
[14:01] <faLUCE> how can I make rc.local access access to DISPLAY variable in order to launch graphical applications?
[14:01] <jrtech> Hello I when to by bios to do configuartion but there area no setting there regarding the hardware in my computer.
[14:01] <shubham_rathi> no problem am waiting
[14:01] <ikonia> jrtech: not really an ubuntu issue
[14:02] <aajgar> shubham_rathi: you want to disable printing in Samba ?
[14:02] <shubham_rathi> yes!!
[14:02] <aajgar>         load printers = no
[14:02] <aajgar>         printing = bsd
[14:02] <aajgar>         printcap name = /dev/null
[14:02] <aajgar>         show add printer wizard = no
[14:02] <aajgar>         disable spoolss = yes
[14:02] <FloodBot1> aajgar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:02] <shubham_rathi> how to do that? aajgar
[14:02] <aajgar> add those in smb.conf , restart samba ,
[14:02] <jrtech> You know of a channel I can get help regarding this issue.
[14:02] <ikonia> jrtech: contact the hardware vendor
[14:02] <Pici> jrtech: Try ##hardware perhaps
[14:03] <shubham_rathi> where is smb.conf??
[14:03] <shubham_rathi> and how to add?
[14:03] <shubham_rathi> am noob in ubuntu!!!
[14:04] <manas> hey
[14:04] <manas> im new to ubuntu and ive just installed compiz
[14:04] <aajgar> /etc/samba/smb.conf  .. use an editor like vi to edit it .
[14:04] <manas> the windows borders keep dissapearing
[14:05] <shubham_rathi> aajgar whereis smb.config file?
[14:05] <shubham_rathi> aajgar how to add in it?
[14:05] <Sidewinder1> ^
[14:05] <racc> yep, vi or vim nice variant for newbie :D
[14:05] <shubham_rathi> sidewinder1 plz help me!
[14:05] <Pici> racc, aajgar: vim/vi are unreasonable to suggest to new users.
[14:05] <Pici> shubham_rathi: please *read* the replies that aajgar has given you.
[14:05] <Chheapshot> shubham_rathi: sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf  for example
[14:06] <manas_> hi all
[14:06] <aajgar> manas: under ccsm, there is a windows workaround, select that , probably it will fix it ,
[14:06] <manas_> the windows border keeps dissapearing
[14:06] <Chheapshot> Am I the only one using nano :D?
[14:06] <chroot> ?
[14:07] <shubham_rathi> chheapshot i have tried not working
[14:07] <chroot> i have a question?
[14:07] <yurik3829> Chheapshot: I can confidently say nano has more than one user
[14:07] <jrtech> Nano = pick?
[14:07] <RaTTuS|BIG> shoot chroot
[14:07] <aajgar> shubham_rathi: use sudo gedit shubham_rathi: sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf
[14:07] <ikonia> aajgar: gksudo
[14:07] <racc> Chheapshot, nope, i used it for a long time, now i use vim :3
[14:07] <jrtech> Pico
[14:07] <RaTTuS|BIG> vi
[14:08] <chroot> RaTTuS|BIG, when you learn linux and unix , what you should learn ,
[14:08] <Arnold> Hello. Is there a way to move a window from one X server to another?
[14:08] <RaTTuS|BIG> learn vi
[14:08] <aajgar> shubham_rathi: gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[14:08] <chroot> RaTTuS|BIG, and i am a student conllege
[14:08] <chroot> RaTTuS|BIG, already
[14:08] <chroot> and ?
[14:08] <Chheapshot> Can someone point to a nice guide for vi or vim. I always feel overwhelmed when i try it
[14:08] <Pici> !ot | chroot
[14:09] <Pici> Chheapshot: vimtutor
[14:09] <Stanley00> chroot: if so, learn what you will be teach ;)
[14:09] <RaTTuS|BIG> vi , grub , mysql
[14:09] <Sidewinder1> shubham_rathi, Open a terminal, type gksudo gedit , then open /etc/samba/samba.conf, then input the lines that aajgar said, save the file and then restart samba.
[14:09] <jrtech> Chheaprshot man vi
[14:09] <chroot> ok, ubottu
[14:09] <racc> Chheapshot, info vi or vim
[14:09] <chroot> i just a new man to irc
[14:09] <robinduckett> Anyone know if Alin Andrei hangs about in here?
[14:09] <Pici> Can we please use the non-support discussions to #ubuntu-offtopic, folks are trying to get support questions asked here in #ubuntu.
[14:09] <RaTTuS|BIG> oh and irssi
[14:10] <ikonia> RaTTuS|BIG: who are you talking to ? you just seem to be saying random words
[14:10] <robinduckett> brb
[14:11] <chroot> RaTTuS|BIG, how can we continue talking
[14:11] <chroot> and not annoy ubottu
[14:11] <Stanley00> chroot: /join #ubuntu-chat or using pm
[14:11] <Chheapshot> Pici: thx this vimtutor seems handy tutorial
[14:11] <shubham_rathi> sidewinder1 aajgar but how to copy that copy option not coming when i selecting lines that aajgar wrote
[14:12] <aajgar> type it if you can't copy .. :)
[14:12] <chroot> Stanley00, i just want to learn something about linux
[14:12] <markskil1eck> Was there an update yesterday/today? All of a sudden I'm seeing a different grub!
[14:12] <Sidewinder1> chroot, Or, right click on user-nick then click open dialog window... at least for x-chat.
[14:12] <markskil1eck> (a much prettier one, at that)
[14:12] <ravinder> hello
[14:12] <chroot> ok , try
[14:13] <Sidewinder1> shubham_rathi, Try ctrl-shift-V
[14:14] <shubham_rathi> sidewinder1 ok thanks :)
[14:14] <Sidewinder1> My pleasure.
[14:15] <chroot> Sidewinder1, i can't connect to the user.
[14:15] <shubham_rathi> aajgar sidewinder now how to restart samba?
[14:15] <chroot> can you teach me how between us
[14:15] <shubham_rathi> aajgar sidewinder1 did i have to restart whole system?
[14:15] <aajgar> what version of ubuntu do you have ?
[14:16] <aajgar> for anything above 10.04 you can use restart samba
[14:16] <aajgar> as root from the terminal ,
[14:17] <shubham_rathi> aajgar yaa i have 11.04
[14:17] <shubham_rathi> aajgar so how to restart it?
[14:17] <aajgar> open terminal and do sudo restart samba .
[14:18] <shubham_rathi> aajgar ok thanks
[14:18] <unimtest> hello
[14:18] <aajgar> yw!!
[14:18] <unimtest> hello
[14:18] <unimtest> hello
[14:18] <shubham_rathi> aajgar error coming unknown job samba
[14:19] <Sidewinder1> unimtest, It's workin'.
[14:19] <unimtest> yes
[14:19] <aajgar> I am sorry , sudo restart smbd
[14:19] <poison> hi all...i have mistakenly configured a mail account in Evolution..now i want to delete that account and create it agian
[14:19] <hashi_> would this be the right place to ask questions about upgrading ubuntu 9.10 to 10.04.x on a dual-boot system?
[14:19] <poison> help
[14:19] <shubham_rathi> aajgar ok
[14:20] <asteve> after you place something in /etc/cron.d do you have to restart crond?
[14:20] <aajgar> asteve: I don't think you have to ,
[14:21] <Sidewinder1> !eol | papol
[14:21] <manas> hi
[14:21] <fabienne> I have two computers running ubuntu 11.04, I want to move files from one to the other over my network. How do I do it? I've right clicked on the folders, clicked share, allowed guest access. But still, it says on this computer (the one I want the files on) that it's unable to mount windows share? I don't get it, both computers are running linux, what's it got to do with windows?
[14:21] <shubham_rathi> aajgar hey print$ folder gone but even my other sharing folder gone did i have to again start their sharing?
[14:22] <manas> when i enable wobble windows and 3d cube, the windows border disapears
[14:22] <dweez> sounds like something crashed
[14:22] <chroot> fabienne, you can use samba
[14:22] <chroot> or ftp
[14:22] <manas> is it because i have both ccsm and tweak ubuntu?
[14:22] <dweez> sounds like something crashed, manas
[14:22] <fabienne> how do i do it with ftp?
[14:22] <manas> but its happening every time!!
[14:22] <dweez> fabienne, use scp
[14:23] <chroot> you should install ftp server in your ubuntu machine
[14:23] <craigbass1976> We've got a bandwidth problem here...  Is there a sniffer I can install that will catch traffic to and from the WAN even though this box isn't the gateway?  Our firewall can't just be lef tin packet capture mode, or it crashes.
[14:23] <dweez> !scp
[14:23] <aajgar> Probably , you will have to add the shares again ,
[14:23] <fabienne> Dweez, chroot: Which is the easier way of doing it. An ftp server? Ok. Is there a tutorial for an ftp server?
[14:23] <chroot> if you use scp , you need install ssh
[14:23] <fabienne> I don't need ssh, it's just on a home network.
[14:23] <craigbass1976> fabienne, sudo apt-get install vsftpd I think
[14:23] <aajgar> fabienne: use rsync
[14:24] <dweez> why wouldn't you have ssh installed?
[14:24] <dweez> rsync is good too (but also (can) use ssh for it's transport)
[14:24] <chroot> fabienne, wait a min
[14:24] <fmauro> craigbass1976: you will need to put a box between your gateway and LAN, manage everything from there with 2 NICs
[14:24] <fabienne> I have a NAS as well which uses ftp, so I'd like that to be compatible with these computers.
[14:24] <fmauro> craigbass1976: not really a ubuntu question though
[14:25] <craigbass1976> fmauro, I suspected that would be the case.
[14:26] <chroot> fabienne, i have a small script , it will do the work for you (intsall ftp server)
[14:26] <chroot> and how can you get it
[14:26] <chroot> ?
[14:26] <chroot> now this is my problem
[14:26] <fmauro> well you could reARP everyone to go through one NIC but that is just not feaseable for large networks.
[14:26] <Sidewinder1> fabienne, If you decide on the rsync method, you might also want to try the GUI front end called "Grsync".
[14:26] <fmauro> craigbass1976: well you could reARP everyone to go through one NIC but that is just not feaseable for large networks.
[14:27] <fabienne> oh you can get filezilla for ubuntu, does that do ftp server?
[14:27] <chroot> ok , i say you do it on your computer , it is easy
[14:27] <craigbass1976> fmauro, it SEEMS to have started when I put up a new ubuntu web server, but I really think it's coincidence...
[14:27] <chroot> fabienne,
[14:28] <chroot> are u ready
[14:28] <fabienne> chroot: ready for what?
[14:28] <glioros> guys through shh how can i check that mod_rewrite is loaded
[14:28] <chroot> i said the command , you run it
[14:28] <chroot> it is really easy
[14:29] <nuclearworm> can i install ubuntu using /cdrom as mount point? which problems will i have doing that?
[14:31] <chroot> fabienne, or you recieve my file , and run it ,that is all
[14:31] <fabienne> chroot: I clicked accept but it's not downloading
[14:32] <chroot> funy, is there anybody who knows how to transfer a file
[14:32] <ePirat> hello
[14:33] <AndrewNTH> hi i have ubuntu server - how do i find GB repositories for apt-get
[14:33] <ePirat> how can i free a specific port, which is used by another application?
[14:34] <agus_sintang> GN
[14:34] <chroot> fabienne, can i send the file to your mailbox
[14:34] <chroot> ?
[14:34] <kqian> irc used to be used for file sharing
[14:34] <Sidewinder1> fabienne, Perhaps this might help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grsync
[14:35] <fmauro> ePirat: close the application using it
[14:35] <kqian> until torrents kicked in
[14:35] <ePirat> fmauro, how can i figure out which app is using it?
[14:35] <aajgar> ePirat: look in /etc/services , comment the port # you want to free .
[14:36] <yurik3829> kqian: IRC is still used for filesharing. Join the Rizon network some time.
[14:36] <Sidewinder1> chroot, Just so you know, I have never succeeded in sending/receiving files in X-Chat and I have tried many times, port configs etc...
[14:37] <Sidewinder1> Perhaps I'm just 'thick".
[14:37] <ePirat> aajgar, the port isnt listed there...
[14:37] <req^> There are a lot of things in the way of irc file transfers :)
[14:38] <yurik3829> Sidewinder1: Are you on a University or private network, where someone might be filtering certain traffic?
[14:38] <aajgar> then it should be free, are you getting any errors when you try to access it ?
[14:38] <Sidewinder1> yurik3829, No, home network, wired and wireless; this particular box is wired.
[14:40] <OerHeks> !nomodeset > OerHeks
[14:40] <hashi> I'm trying to upgrade the linux side of a dual-boot w7/ubuntu9.10 system to ubuntu 10.04.3 without having 10.04.3 auto-misuse grub2 to overwrite /dev/sdx. Anyone know how to manage that? Thanks in advance.
[14:40] <aajgar> check what app is using the port .. netstat -an | greop  <port#>
[14:40] <InsektO> hi all
[14:40] <glioros> guys what that means  Options FollowSymLinks or SymLinksIfOwnerMatch is off which implies that RewriteRule directive is forbidden ?
[14:41] <LasersHTTP> hashi: Make a backup first before you try anything. It's a good general practice.
[14:41] <madurax86___> 2.6.38 freezes randomly on my machine, no log messages and no call traces, sysrq does not work, to recover have to reset and windows has been running straight for 1d+ on same hardware i dont know how to report it as a bug even since i dont have any reports
[14:41] <Sidewinder1> hashi, Did you have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[14:41] <hashi> Thanks and have done that Lasers
[14:41] <hashi> I'm just hoping that grub2 doesn't go nuts and decide to write a sector to the disk root which already has a bootloader.
[14:42] <madurax86___> all kernels after 2.6.38-8 freezes too
[14:42] <jiltdil> Is firefox 7 out for ubuntu 64bit>
[14:42] <hashi> Yes, I took a look at that. I think the docs become somewhat null when you try to find about dual-boot setup behavior
[14:43] <OerHeks> jiltdil, no. not for regular updates, yet.
[14:43] <Sidewinder1> hashi, You may also wish to familiarize yourself with the differences between Grub Legacy and Grub2.
[14:43] <jiltdil> OerHeks, ya i see
[14:43] <yurik3829> jiltdil: Yes, you can use the ppa https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable
[14:43] <hashi> rephase:: Is grub2's behavior managable during the EOL upgrade (update-manager -d) or are there no options for that?
[14:44] <jiltdil> yurik3829, hm not believe in ppa
[14:44] <OerHeks> jiltdil, if you can't  wait, you can  add ppa:chromium-daily/ppa and download 15.0.8710
[14:44] <hashi> I've already installed grub2 on 9.10 but it's the automated process that worries me (update-manager -d)
[14:44] <yurik3829> jiltdil: The ppa works perfectly, but entirely up to you
[14:45] <jiltdil> yurik3829, i know it dude :) any way thanks for giving your valuabe time
[14:45] <Sidewinder1> hashi, With a version that is EOL, I don't believe that it's recommended to use the 'update' feature.
[14:45] <hashi> Sidewinder: What is recommended instead?
[14:46] <craigbass1976> I'm watching top, and I see something not explained in the man pages.  Up in the summary section, in the Cpu(s): line, I see 0.3%us,  0.0%sy,  0.0%ni, 99.7%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st.  What's the 99.7%id mean?  The man page skips over that one
[14:46] <Sidewinder1> hashi, Back up your /home, as you said you already did, then clean install the version of your choice; I prefer LTS, 10.04 is current.
[14:47] <mc89__> when will firefox 7 get published the repos
[14:47] <mc89__> so i can use update centre to grab it
[14:47] <Sidewinder1> hashi, Then copy your backed-up /home to the new /home on the new install, I thinh..
[14:47] <Sidewinder1> think, even.
[14:48] <glioros> I have this error have this error Options FollowSymLinks or SymLinksIfOwnerMatch is off which implies that RewriteRule directive is forbidden
 what that means and what can i do ?
[14:48] <hashi> Sidewinder : I've got the entire disk imaged, so that's fine. I was just wondering what grub2 does during the upgrade (hopefully not clobber the root (/dev/sda)>
[14:48] <somsip> glioros: AllowOverride None would cause this
[14:48] <yurik3829> glioros: You have to turn on the options to follow symlinks in your apache config, for the specific website folder you're trying to use .htaccess in
[14:48] <OerHeks> mc89__, within days, i guess
[14:49] <Sidewinder1> hashi, I'm tellin' ya, with all due respect, I wouldn't trust "Upgrade" when you're dealing with EOL.
[14:49] <glioros> yurik3829 how can i turn them on ?
[14:49] <OerHeks> mc89__  if you can't  wait, you can  add ppa:chromium-daily/ppa and update to download 15.0.8710
[14:49] <yurik3829> glioros: One sec, I have my own copy of the config file, I'll find it
[14:49] <OerHeks> ah sorry
[14:50] <hashi> OK: I don't trust it anyway. I've had terrible experiences with it in VMs but I was hoping a native box would behave better ;)
[14:50] <hashi> thanks.
[14:50] <OerHeks> mc89__, ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable
[14:51] <poison> how do i install wine on natty?
[14:51] <yurik3829> glioros: Similar to this, this is how I do it on my web server http://pastebin.com/qiGiXGjB
[14:51] <ubuntu_> heloo
[14:51] <yurik3829> glioros: Read the apache documentation for more info
[14:51] <Sidewinder1> hashi, Actually, my best friend is in the same position; he's currently running Hardy. When he's ready, I'll follow my own advice (big surprise there), afterall, it's his system. :-)
[14:51] <ubuntu_> anybody there ?
[14:51] <Sidewinder1> Oops, he's gone. Rats!
[14:52] <ubuntu_> :d
[14:52] <ubuntu_> :D
[14:52] <yurik3829> glioros: You have to add that (or modify) your httpd.conf file
[14:52] <Sidewinder1> ubuntu_, Only 1,611..
[14:53] <somsip> glioros: depending on your version, this may be in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[14:53] <yurik3829> I wouldn't know, I use Scientific Linux for servers
[14:53] <glioros> guys do you think that this might be the reason the youtube to mp3 script is not running /
[14:53] <glioros> ?
[14:55] <mc89__> OerHeks, added how do i update firefox though
[14:55] <mc89__> or do i just redownload it
[14:56] <somethinginteres> is there an easy way in bash to rename files even numbers 2.jpg 4.jpg etc?
[14:57] <Ibis> Anyone here by any chance have experience using a software known as "FreeNX"?
[14:58] <chroot> chroot no
[14:58] <OerHeks> mc89__, just run update, FF 7 should appear as an regular update
[14:58] <Sidewinder1> Ibis, Is this to which you are referring? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freenx
[14:58] <chroot> mc
[14:58] <mc89__> yeah unfortunately it doesnt OerHeks
[14:58] <chroot> mv
[14:58] <glioros> somsip i am in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[14:59] <somsip> glioros: if AllowOverride is None, change it to All (this is *not* a very secure approach but it may work)
[14:59] <glioros> is none
[14:59] <somsip> glioros: after saving it, sudo service apache2 restart, and try again
[15:00] <glioros> ok
[15:00] <Sidewinder1> somethinginteres, You might get a better response in #bash.
[15:01] <somethinginteres> Sidewinder1: thanks will go there. :)
[15:01] <Sidewinder1> :D
[15:01] <Ibis> Sidewinder1: Yea.
[15:03] <Sidewinder1> Ibis, I couldn't really answer your question but figgered' since no one else answered, I'd point you there; sorry it wasn't of more help. :'(
[15:03] <glioros> somsip i change it to All
[15:03] <glioros> and i am still getting the error Options FollowSymLinks or SymLinksIfOwnerMatch is off which implies that RewriteRule directive is forbidden
[15:03] <chroot> Sidewinder1, can i ask some questions
[15:04] <Sidewinder1> !ask | chroot
[15:04] <somsip> glioros: okay - sounds like it's outside the scope of #ubuntu. I could guess at suggesting you add FollowSymLinks to the default file as suggest earlier by someone else, but it is just clutching at straws
[15:04]  * Sidewinder1 Is not really intelligent, but ask away. :)
[15:05] <wamicho> hey my server boots up and gives me this error reiserfs_read_locked_inode what does this mean ?
[15:05] <chroot> Sidewinder1, copy that
[15:06] <aajgar> wamicho: I think you have some bad blocks on your disk ,
[15:06] <Sidewinder1> wamicho, reiserfs is a file system and not the default of ubuntu (ext3, ext4), if that helps...
[15:07] <kkulhavy> Hello
[15:08] <wamicho> aajgar: is there a command to repair this ? tried fsck but nothing changed
[15:08] <kkulhavy> I want to add a new disk into crashed RAID
[15:08] <yurik3178317> wamicho: Does your server use Reiser FS? It's gone out of popularity since the main developer was convicted of murdering his wife...
[15:08] <kkulhavy> and the RAID howto asks me to do something that seems to be impossible
[15:08] <kkulhavy> namely run the raidhotadd command
[15:08] <kkulhavy> apt-file search raidhotadd doesnt find anything
[15:08] <aajgar> that is a utility called reiserfsck , but I would first take a backup and then run it .,
[15:09] <kkulhavy> how can I fix a broken raid in ubuntu?
[15:10] <wamicho> yurik3178317: ya been using that for a while now
[15:11] <kkulhavy> how can I get command raidhotadd under ubuntu?
[15:11] <kkulhavy> The Linux Documentation Project Software RAID Howto requires it
[15:11] <kkulhavy> but i cannot find it
[15:12] <f00bar80> i did setup a pptp vpn server on my ubuntu and want to know how to monitor a pptp client, any comment ??
[15:13] <kkulhavy> "This HOWTO is deprecated; the Linux RAID HOWTO is maintained as a wiki by the linux-raid community at http://raid.wiki.kernel.org/"
[15:13] <kkulhavy> points to deadlink
[15:13] <kkulhavy> Typical official Linux documentation
[15:13] <kkulhavy> asks to do impossible things
[15:13] <kkulhavy> and points to deadlink
[15:14] <jmusbach> im horny
[15:14] <compdoc> congrats
[15:15] <kkulhavy> linux foundation another deadlink
[15:15] <kkulhavy> anyone knows how to reconstruct raid array in ubuntu?
[15:16] <woot1337> using what?
[15:16] <woot1337> mdadm?
[15:17] <kkulhavy> using whatever
[15:18] <kkulhavy> PEBTIL
[15:18] <kkulhavy> Problem Exists Because This Is Linux
[15:19] <kkulhavy> and i feel angry and unfairly treated
[15:19] <ensaf> Does anyone know where i can get PDF books about linux?
[15:19] <kkulhavy> because i contrbuted to the world already with many open source software and hardware projects
[15:19] <kkulhavy> and this is what I get back
[15:21] <kkulhavy> ensaf, is it important that the books dont contain rubbish?
[15:21] <Sidewinder1> kkulhavy, I'd demand my money back!
[15:21] <kkulhavy> yes I demand my development time back which I contributed to the comunity
[15:22] <kkulhavy> or that the rubbish howtos that poison the google search results be deleted
[15:22] <kkulhavy> this is denial of service attack on google results
[15:22] <kkulhavy> in my opinion
[15:22] <kkulhavy> "the linux documentation project"
[15:22] <kkulhavy> I feel contemptuous.
[15:23] <kkulhavy> oh, n00b, rtfm!
[15:23] <kkulhavy> Rubbish These Fucking Manuals
[15:23] <llutz> could someone show this troll the door
[15:23] <KirinDave> kkulhavy, cool story, bro.
[15:23] <backintime> how do i force stop a backintime job?
[15:24]  * Sidewinder1 Knew that was commin'. :)
[15:24] <Sidewinder1> Sorry..
[15:24] <Sidewinder1> Couldn't resist.
[15:24] <f00bar80> ppl any comment ?
[15:25]  * Sidewinder1 Puts on his resistance cap.
[15:25] <sdperez79> I'm on a 64bit laptop with 4bg what would be the best version of ubuntu11.04 32 bit or 64 bit?
[15:25] <sdperez79> ubuntu recommend 32bit?
[15:25] <kkulhavy> I feel unfairly treated for being kicked
[15:26] <KirinDave> kkulhavy, gonna continue with your cool story, bro?
[15:26] <Snicksie> i'd recommend 64bit, but thats your choice sdperez79 ;)
[15:26] <llutz> sdperez79: 64bit to use all the 4gb
[15:26] <kkulhavy> I feel disrespected when u say cool story
[15:26] <jussi> KirinDave: please dont
[15:26] <llutz> kkulhavy: respect the rules and you're welcome here
[15:26] <Sidewinder1> kkulhavy, You kinda' asked for it, no?
[15:26] <sdperez79> will the 32 bit software onlinux be compatible?
[15:26] <jussi> kkulhavy: for general chat, please join #ubuntu-offtopic, here is specifically support only
[15:27] <Sidewinder1> sdperez79, If your system is 64 bit, use that version.
[15:27] <cooter> hey
[15:27] <kkulhavy> I feel unfairly treated, because I asked for support for software raid , and jussi says "for general chat, please join #ubuntu-offtopic"
[15:28] <Sidewinder1> sdperez79, 32 will work on 64; however, 64 won't work on 32; HTH.
[15:28] <jussi> kkulhavy: you need to keep it specificly to support only in here, if you have complaints, please direct them to #ubuntu-ops.
[15:29] <sdperez79> kool.thanks sidewinder,snicksie,and llutz
[15:29] <Sidewinder1> Np
[15:30] <Battlecat> Hello:
[15:30] <DeLorean731> o:
[15:30] <DeLorean731> http://www.openvim.com/tutorial.html
[15:30] <DeLorean731> this is really cool
[15:30] <FloodBot1> DeLorean731: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:31] <mang0> What would you guys advise for a screen recorder?
[15:31] <DeLorean731> ah, no other links allowed I guess?
[15:31] <RaTTuS|BIG> 3 lines maybe
[15:31] <DeLorean731> oh I see, my bad
[15:31] <RaTTuS|BIG> dunno for sure
[15:31] <DeLorean731> you're probably right
[15:31] <DeLorean731> since it said flood, not something else
[15:31] <kkulhavy> i found out the raid re-add
[15:32] <kkulhavy> its done by mdadm --add
[15:32] <kkulhavy> looks like the raidhotadd command is obsolete or not exists anymore
[15:32] <kkulhavy> and that the official howtos on the internet still recommend the old command
[15:32] <kkulhavy> hope other people can use this information too!
[15:32] <strange> hey guys i have a problem with my touch screen in ubuntu it seems to work but all movement is inverted if i touch it on the right it recognizes it left etc
[15:33] <Battlecat> I recently installed Ubuntu 11.04 via F4 CLI option. When I did this the installation was great. When it rebooted into the new CLI system the screen was all white with little black lines on it. I then tried other terminals such as F1 and F2. Those were also unreadable. I did manage to just type in the commands to get xorg and fluxbox. I gave it a few minutes to do its thing which was also scrambled. When I typed in startx it did go right into fluxbox and I 
[15:33] <AlexDevilLX> hi can i be unbanned from ubuntu-offtopic?
[15:33] <ikonia> AlexDevilLX: join #ubuntu-ops - as you know.
[15:33] <mang0> AlexDevilLX: #ubuntu-ops
[15:33] <AlexDevilLX> thx
[15:33] <ikonia> kkulhavy: out of interest, was it raidtools or mdadm the howto was pointed at
[15:34] <mang0> Any ideas for a decent screen recorder for ubuntu? Video and sound.
[15:35] <Sidewinder1> mang0, Are you talkin' a snap-shot or streaming?
[15:35] <trinimoses> hi all
[15:35] <trinimoses> morning
[15:35] <OerHeks> mang0, VLC can do that
[15:35] <mang0> Sidewinder1: Streaming. Like camstasia for windows, etc.
[15:35] <mang0> OerHeks: Really?!
[15:35] <trinimoses> i am getting the following error on my box : "cannot unlock the session because the authentication system failed to work. You must kill kscreenlocker manually "
[15:36] <kkulhavy> ikonia, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO-8.html#ss8\
[15:36] <Sidewinder1> mang0, Have you checked out UnPlug? It's a FF add-on/extension for recording streaming video.
[15:36] <strange> !nl
[15:36] <ikonia> kkulhavy: raidhotadd I believe is from the now defuct raidtools
[15:36] <mang0> Sidewinder1: No, will look into it, thankyou :)
[15:37] <trinimoses> any ideas guys ?
[15:37] <Sidewinder1> nphase, glad to've hepped'.
[15:37] <Battlecat> Is there a way to boot directly into a desktop without the intervention of XDM or GDM or any display manager? I am building a MAME box.
[15:37] <ikonia> KirinDave: I think that is there for legacy systems (very old) that are still using raid tools.
[15:37] <nphase> Sidewinder1: huh
[15:37] <AlexDevilLX> battlecat: like arcade?
[15:37] <theadmin> DeLorean731: Interesting thing... Vim has a built-in tutorial mechanism of it's own, though, usually you can run it with "vim-tutor", and it explains so much more.
[15:38] <OerHeks> mango VLC > Media  > recordapp and select 'desktop' in record modus ( i am not sure about the menu, i use NL )
[15:38] <Sidewinder1> nphase, I did it again...Ggrrrr hit the "Tab' key by accident. Humblest apologies.
[15:38] <Battlecat> AlexDevilLX like arcade.
[15:38] <AlexDevilLX> ok
[15:38] <nphase> Sidewinder1: :)
[15:38] <theadmin> Battlecat: Configure your display manager to autologin
[15:38] <Sidewinder1> Been on here WAY too long.
[15:39] <Battlecat> theadmin I would like to avoid using a DM because this is running on a P3 and anything I do not need I would rather not use.
[15:39] <bastidrazor> theadmin: DeLorean731 : the actual command in 'vimtutor'
[15:39] <theadmin> bastidrazor: Ah, makes sense
[15:39]  * Sidewinder1 Takes his clumbsy fingers and departs.. Have a good one, ALL!
[15:39] <Battlecat> I was so excited to get this CLI version of Ubuntu up and running this morning even with the White screens that I had to deal with.
[15:39] <bastidrazor> theadmin: i went back through it a few weeks ago to help my vimskills
[15:40] <allowoverride> theadmin: could you explain that a little further for Battlecat
[15:40] <theadmin> allowoverride: Sure, I can't type too fast just now, I'm in a very weird, almost crying state, don't force stuff on me
[15:40] <theadmin> Battlecat: Let me try and find something for you
[15:40] <Battlecat> theadmin thank you.
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> Battlecat: could use just openbox for lightness, or lxde if you want a light DE. There are ways to make Linux autorun the desktop without a login screen too
[15:40] <allowoverride> im also wondering if that was the correct response. first, Battlecat what is a mame box
[15:41] <Nika> anybody know about V4l2?(video for linux 2)
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> allowoverride: websearch for MAME   see what you find ;-)
[15:41] <Battlecat> I noticed that when I was using the Ubuntu derivative Lubuntu the LXDM has no GUI to allow for auto-login, you have to edit text files and the GDM once installed via APT-GET did not function correctly.
[15:42] <theadmin> Battlecat: Okay, run this,  echo "exec ck-launch-session gnome-session" > ~/.xinitrc
[15:42] <allowoverride> Battlecat: i read what your doing, that seems to the be the fix. good luck
[15:42] <theadmin> Battlecat: Replace gnome-session with the session of your desktop
[15:42] <Battlecat> a MAME box is a PC or MAC that is dedicated to running the MAME emulator with a Graphical front-end that is joystick friendly (usually).
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> Battlecat: weird. Could install minimal then install openbox for  light OS
[15:43] <allowoverride> Battlecat: sounds fun :)
[15:43] <AlexDevilLX> right
[15:43] <Battlecat> ActionParsnip I went with Fluxbox because I know it and its easy to setup an auto run program without the actual desktop.
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> Battlecat: slim is a nice lightweight login manager
[15:43] <trinimoses> can anyone help me ?
[15:44] <theadmin> Battlecat: sooo... Why do you need a DE at all? Just autostart your emulator on X startup (via .xinitrc)
[15:44] <Battlecat> Does slim allow for both autologin and desktop selection?
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> Battlecat: fluxbox is a fine choice. Very powerful
[15:44] <Nika> How can I found answer the question abot v4l2?!!
[15:44] <llutz> Nika: maybe you just should ask your real question
[15:45] <allowoverride> Battlecat: everyone has an opinion on a WM. pick the one with the prettiest background :)
[15:45] <Battlecat> I've read about using the .xinitrc but to be honest when I have tried it I usually end up with a non-functioning box.
[15:45] <allowoverride> and themes
[15:45] <theadmin> Battlecat: Means you're doing it wrong
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> Battlecat: i believe so, its very configurable. You can make the OS log you in and run the GUI without login screen too
[15:45] <Nika> my qusetion about USE_USERPTR(I/O stream)
[15:45] <allowoverride> Battlecat: i dont see why gnome wouldnt be an option though...
[15:45] <Battlecat> I use Wah!Cade as my Arcade FrontEnd. So I never see the desktop.
[15:45] <c-beams> dd has gotten slower and slower, it started at 32M/s now its at 1M/s
[15:46] <Battlecat> I will look into slim.
[15:46] <allowoverride> Battlecat: ic
[15:47] <Battlecat> THe nice thing about Wah!Cade is that you never need to use a mouse or keyboard. The joystick and buttons do all the work.
[15:48] <allowoverride> Battlecat: awesome!
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> Battlecat: http://linux.koolsolutions.com/2009/03/15/howto-autologin-into-your-linux-system-without-xdm-gdm-kdm-etc/
[15:48] <allowoverride> is that in the ubuntu repos?
[15:48] <Battlecat> So I could apt-get slim and configure that to autologin into fluxbox?
[15:48] <allowoverride> ActionParsnip: lol...
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> allowoverride: ?
[15:49] <Battlecat> OMG That is what I needed!
[15:49] <Battlecat> Printing!
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> Battlecat: fluxbuntu uses both as default
[15:49] <allowoverride> ActionParsnip: oh, i like the link you found
[15:49] <Battlecat> Once this is setup it stays inside my arcade cabinet.
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> Good ol duckduckgo
[15:50] <Battlecat> I collect Arcade machines but one of the machines I have is just a shell and that is where MAME comes in.
[15:50] <AlexDevilLX> good
[15:50] <AlexDevilLX> battlecat: my soul
[15:51] <c-beams> dd has gotten slower and slower, it started at 32M/s now its at 1M/s
[15:51] <csenger41> hey everyone :)
[15:51] <Battlecat> what is DD?
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> Battlecat: if you look at the code on the page it makes sense. Its dirty but it works
[15:51] <Battlecat> dungeons and dragons?
[15:51] <csenger41> i'd need help in moving window buttons in xubuntu
[15:51] <c-beams> the command 'dd'
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> Battlecat: bit-by-bit copy of one thing to a
[15:52] <urthmove1> Battlecat: it is a block level copying command on most *nix systems
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> Ano
[15:52] <Battlecat> oh okay
[15:52] <Battlecat> I have never used it
[15:52] <urthmove1> Battlecat: btw people are playing pathfinder instead these days
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> Battlecat: use it wrong and it can mean: disk destroyer
[15:53] <Battlecat> ah I am behind. I am still stuck on Asteroids, Pacman, Space Invaders.
[15:53] <Guest26039> how to change nickname?
[15:53] <csenger41> any ideas? :S
[15:53] <urthmove1> Guest26039: you must register on freenode....
[15:53] <Walex2> GuestNNNN: use /nick
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> Battlecat: no xmen vs street fighter
[15:54] <Battlecat> Ahh I tried them. To complicated for me.
[15:54] <Battlecat> LOL
[15:54] <GHOSTx562> Got it thanks!
[15:54] <Battlecat> I like simple and repetative. Kind of like my job.
[15:54] <urthmove1> Battlecat: A Mind Forever Voyaging was greatness back then
[15:54] <c-beams> anyone know why dd would be getting progressively slower?
[15:54] <allowoverride> Battlecat: do you have a wii? those original games are available. i just got dragon's lair lol
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> Battlecat: sounds like my sexlife
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> Boom!
[15:54] <Battlecat> allowoverride I have the Dragons laid DVD set.
[15:55] <csenger41> guys u see what im typing?
[15:55] <allowoverride> i wonder if that will load on your linux box
[15:55] <urthmove1> how do I make my bash script run without putting ./ in front of it?
[15:55] <Battlecat> and… I have the original Dragons lair DVD from the arcade machine framed on my game room wall.
[15:55] <Battlecat> Dragons lair works great on linux.
[15:55] <bastidrazor> urthmove1: put it in a directory that is in your path
[15:55] <ikonia> urthmove1: put it in your PATH
[15:55] <allowoverride> Battlecat: lol wow, cool. so i can build a mame box and use it there?
[15:55] <Battlecat> it was a laserdisc and it was big back then.
[15:56] <allowoverride> save me!
[15:56] <urthmove1> odd I put it as a ln -s in /usr/bin  but it still doesn't maybe I need to restart my terminal
[15:56] <urthmove1> brb
[15:56] <Battlecat> Dragons lair and all the laserdisc games use a free GNU emu called Daphne. It works great on my machine.
[15:56] <ikonia> Battlecat: maybe take this to #ubuntu-offtopic as it's moved beyond support discussion
[15:57] <Battlecat> your right
[15:58] <Battlecat> Thanks for the help! Any idea what the whole white screen issue is about? I have to currently type startx without being able to see anything I type.
[15:59] <allowoverride> Battlecat: so to load daphne, i can load from repos? and then what hardware is needed for the dvd to run, just /dev/cdrom?
[15:59] <allowoverride> and then autolog in. right?
[15:59] <Battlecat> allowoverride can you pm?
[15:59] <allowoverride> per actionparsnips link instructions
[15:59] <allowoverride> sure
[16:00] <c-beams> dd has gotten slower and slower, it started at 32M/s now its at 1M/s
[16:00] <allowoverride> i dont see how its off-topic, but ok
[16:00] <ikonia> allowoverride: you're issue isn 't, please continue
[16:00] <Battlecat> or go to that offtopic chanell
[16:00] <ikonia> I just meant the general emmulation chat
[16:00] <Battlecat> oh well
[16:00] <AlexDevilLX> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:AndroidMarketWebSite.png ubuntu!
[16:00] <Battlecat> okay
[16:02] <fireprint> hey guys. im having trouble with my ssh. i have tried both fromputty and terminal. It keeps giving me lagspikes. Im running ubuntu on both computers. Any thoughts or anything i should be searching for? (ping result is a steady 2ms average)
[16:02] <silv3r_m00n1> for unicode and nonenglish languages , if there are multiple font files , which one does the browser choose to display those characters ?
[16:03] <fireprint> the lagspikes being that i can type semi decent.. when it sudden comes to a halt for some sec's.. then return, semi spike and then goes back to normal.
[16:03] <theadmin> silv3r_m00n1: Whatever the webpage developers tell it to, OR whatever is in your settings
[16:04] <allowoverride> where does ufw store its save config?
[16:04] <silv3r_m00n1> theadmin: can it be determined ?
[16:05] <allowoverride> saved*
[16:05] <silv3r_m00n1> theadmin: for this particular language there are 15 ttf files , I just need to know which ttf file is in effect
[16:05] <allowoverride> ufw is a helper for iptables, correct?
[16:05] <c-beams> I'm trying to create an image fo a 1TB drive. dd started off fast at 32M/s but has gotten progressively slower and is now at 1M/s. what do I do?
[16:05] <theadmin> silv3r_m00n1: Check your browser's settings, and page's code
[16:06] <silv3r_m00n1> theadmin: page is utf-8 with font family as arial , and browser setting has nothing very specific
[16:06] <Maestr0> hi there
[16:06] <rurufufuss> anyone know a text editor that can search&replace from many open documents at once?
[16:07] <Maestr0> I have a Grub2 question, I've resized some partitions and now my computer boots with an error "grub rescue > error: no such partition"
[16:07] <c-beams> anyone?
[16:07] <Maestr0> I've figured out how to boot despite that
[16:07] <Maestr0> but for some reason it won't save the new settings
[16:07] <Maestr0> the root is hd0,msdos7 (which is now wrong) and should be hd0,msdos5
[16:07] <Maestr0> thoughts?
[16:07] <OerHeks> !backup
[16:08] <andrea_> send list
[16:09] <macal> Hola, hay alguien por aquí que haya instalado Skype en Xubuntu 10.04?
[16:10] <ikonia> !es | macal
[16:10] <theadmin> macal: Just download it from skype.com
[16:10] <kv10t> I really needs some help. stopping a back in time job.
[16:11] <f00bar80> i did setup a pptp vpn server on my ubuntu and want to know how to monitor a pptp client, any comment ??
[16:11] <Maestr0> hm, I'll go mess with it some more myself then, thanks anyway
[16:11] <clouder> does anybody has some experience with live usb stick?
[16:11] <andrea_> dccc
[16:12] <michael_mbp> hi all
[16:12] <michael_mbp> is to possible to do quickly dev on Mac ?
[16:12] <andrea_> c/c++
[16:12] <michael_mbp> I do remember setting up pyGTK/python ages ago with fink
[16:13] <c-beams> anyone?
[16:13] <c-beams> I'm trying to create an image fo a 1TB drive. dd started off fast at 32M/s but has gotten progressively slower and is now at 1M/s. what do I do?
[16:13] <michael_mbp> and I've recently got python with virtualenv all setup on my mac.
[16:13] <andrea_> italia
[16:13] <ikonia> michael_mbp: on macos or ubuntu ?
[16:13] <kv10t> I really needs some help. stopping a back in time job.
[16:13] <theadmin> michael_mbp: Why are you asking this in #ubuntu ? We don't support OS X
[16:14] <michael_mbp> well thought I'd ask here cause I only just ready about the whole quickly/pyGTK launch
[16:14] <michael_mbp> and OS X does run BSD...
[16:14] <michael_mbp> anyways thanks ...
[16:14] <theadmin> michael_mbp: Ubuntu is not even closely BSD-related...
[16:14] <ikonia> michael_mbp: try #macosx
[16:14] <theadmin> ikonia: You sure it's with one # ? I doubt the channel is official
[16:14] <michael_mbp> theadmin: didn't say it was :)
[16:15] <clouder> i installed several distributions on am usb stick, every distri started, except ubuntu
[16:15] <ikonia> probably ##
[16:15] <clouder> *a
[16:15] <c-beams> hello?
[16:15] <michael_mbp> ok so hardware for ubuntu 11 and unity ui
[16:15] <michael_mbp> do the specs need to be rather fancy to get it all running?
[16:15] <ikonia> michael_mbp: check out ubuntu.com for system specs
[16:15] <michael_mbp> kk
[16:16] <theadmin> michael_mbp: Not really, you should be fine with 512 meters of RAM, 5GB of disk space and, let's see... 1ghz processor?
[16:16] <michael_mbp> meters of RAM ...heh :p
[16:16] <theadmin> michael_mbp: Meters, megabytes... Same difference
[16:16] <dgandhi> Is there a package with a seeded pseudo-random-number generator that can output repeatable binary data? I need to generate TB of binary data that I can recreate at will from a small amount of config info.
[16:16] <macal> Hi, someone who knows how to install Skype on Xubuntu 10.04?
[16:17] <theadmin> macal: From skype.com
[16:17] <Captain_Harlock> is the kdbg currently supported at the latest ubuntu?
[16:17] <c-beams> I'm trying to create an image fo a 1TB drive. dd started off fast at 32M/s but has gotten progressively slower and is now at 1M/s. what do I do?
[16:17] <michael_mbp> never head that version....
[16:17] <savid> I just installed gnome3 from the gnome3 ppa.  The theme is awful looking (orange boxy title bar, terrible fonts),   how can I get it to look like the screenshots on gnome3.org?
[16:17] <michael_mbp> *heard
[16:17] <macal> Thank you Theadmin, I'll try it
[16:18] <savid> I can't find "theme" anywhere in activities...
[16:18] <clouder> could anybody help me with my live usb stick? i spent several hours, but it doesnt work - debian und crunchbang live system worked - only ubuntu doesnt
[16:18] <theadmin> savid: GNOME 3? Doesn't support themes without weird manipulations.
[16:18] <ikonia> c-beams: wait for it to finish
[16:19] <c-beams> ikonia, why is it getting slower and slower though?
[16:19] <c-beams> ikonia, if it contiunes getting slower it will never finish
[16:19] <ikonia> c-beams: is it continuing to get slower ?
[16:20] <clouder> noone can help me?
[16:20] <c-beams> yes
[16:20] <savid> theadmin,  ok, then why does mine look really crappy??
[16:20] <dina_> hello
[16:20] <dina_> I am looking for help to install vodafone mobile broadband on ubuntu
[16:21] <theadmin> savid: We don't really support GNOME 3 here...
[16:21] <llutz> clouder: how did you create the stick from iso?
[16:21] <andrea_> !list
[16:21] <theadmin> !pm | clouder
[16:22] <jeremy77> hi I am trying to format a drive using disk utility on ubuntu 11.04. I unmount drive and delete all partitions and do guided partition ext 4 with the take ownership box checked but after its done and I mount drive it tells me I dont have permissions of that drive or anything I put on it. can anyone explain what I am doing wrong ?
[16:22] <clouder> with shell command "dd", mac drive recovery and windows usb creater
[16:22] <theadmin> clouder: Ubuntu can't just be dd'd
[16:22] <llutz> clouder: dd doesn't work with ubuntu-iso (yet)
[16:22] <theadmin> clouder: You need to use a tool like unetbootin
[16:22] <dina_> installing a mobile broadband on ubuntu
[16:22] <clouder> so why is dd the way of the user guide?
[16:22] <llutz> seem to be changed with oneiric, they discovered hybrid-isos...
[16:22] <os1ris> Can anyone help me? I have an ATI graphics card. Can't seem to get 3d effects to work or compiz.. Can anyone assist?
[16:23] <clouder> theadmin: unetbootin didn't work too
[16:23] <theadmin> clouder: Well, bad ISO then?
[16:23] <Battlecat> Are there any Ubuntu distros with GNOME 3 live to try?
[16:23] <___MAX> http://developer.ubuntu.com/2011/09/announcing-the-ubuntu-app-developer-site/
[16:23] <theadmin> Battlecat: GNOME 3 is default in Ubuntu 11.10, however, we do not support it yet.
[16:24] <Battlecat> ahh okay thank you.
[16:24] <clouder> theadmin: offical ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso and ubuntu-11.04-1.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[16:25] <theadmin> clouder: I'm not sure if unetbootin does work with 64-bit images or not... Well, if you're running Windows, you can try LiLi, too
[16:25] <Battlecat> I am on a MAC at the moment running Virtual Box to test Ubuntu out while I waste time at work. What version of Ubuntu should I grab to try out GNOME 3?
[16:25] <theadmin> Battlecat: 11.10 beta. But don't expect support here, head to #ubuntu+1 instead
[16:26] <Battlecat> okay but I do not see the beta offered on the ubuntu dl site.
[16:26] <dina_> I need help installing vodafone mobile broadband on ubuntu 11.04
[16:26] <theadmin> Battlecat: Support, and download links, in #ubuntu+1
[16:26] <Battlecat> TY!
[16:27] <theadmin> Battlecat: Don't blame me if your system crashes, because it may, it IS a unstable release.
[16:27] <m477> how to enable tab-completion in bash?
[16:28] <Battlecat> theadmin I am trying it out in a virtual box. Nothing bad should happen should it?
[16:28] <theadmin> Battlecat: Yeah, should be good enough
[16:28] <theadmin> m477: Should be enabled by default...
[16:29] <m477> theadmin: i mean completion based on history
[16:29] <theadmin> Battlecat: You'll need to install guest additions, though, or else you won't be able to work with GNOME3 -- 3D acceleration needed and such
[16:29] <Battlecat> Ive got one of those macs with 4  of the ntel Core i3 processors.
[16:29] <theadmin> m477: ?
[16:30] <m477> theadmin: for example ctrl+r doesnt search anything
[16:30] <Battlecat> and 8 gig of ram and a ATI Radeon HD 4670
[16:30] <Battlecat> so I hope it would work . Hope being the word.
[16:31] <Mac_Weber> I'm on 10.04 LTS, but I want to install the latest git. How to do it using apt-get or aptitude?
[16:32] <Battlecat> bbl
[16:32] <theadmin> Mac_Weber: https://launchpad.net/~git-core/+archive/ppa
[16:33] <Onryo> Seems Ubuntu is a bit different then other *nix systems in not enabling a root account by default? How do I check to see if superuser (su) enabled?
[16:33] <theadmin> Onryo: It's not by default
[16:33] <Onryo> I try su
[16:33] <theadmin> Onryo: Use sudo
[16:33] <llutz> !sudo | Onryo
[16:33] <Mac_Weber> theadmin thanks
[16:34] <WebETGUser454> Hi guys, quick question about buntu
[16:35] <kolix> ubuntu 10.04 *
[16:35] <kolix> can i make my desktop look like this? - http://blog.brixandersen.dk/wp-content/uploads/conky.png
[16:35] <kolix> with conky, etc
[16:35] <kolix> what type of window manager do i need
[16:35] <Delphious> looks like fluxbox to me
[16:35] <popey> kolix: i love that konky look too :D
[16:36] <kolix> so if install fluxbox it will remove the current look of the ugly ubuntu defualt desktop?
[16:36] <pants_> that looks like fluxbox but the conky is a bit distracting
[16:36] <kolix> popey, yeah it's sweet
[16:36] <clouder> theadmin: it worked - thanks a lot
[16:36] <kolix> do i need GNOME or KDE for fluxbox?
[16:37] <paean_> does the perlre command exist for natty?  I get perlre: command not found.
[16:37] <llutz> kolix: just fluxbox
[16:37] <thesheff17> ;;bc,stats
[16:37] <kolix> sudo apt-get fluxbox?
[16:37] <popey> thesheff17: haha, wrong channel :D
[16:37] <thesheff17> haha sorry
[16:37] <llutz> kolix: man apt-get  (install fluxbox)
[16:38] <kolix> llutz, does fluxbox give me power to edit my terminal settings too?
[16:38] <kolix> i.e. have transparent background?
[16:38] <Onryo> theadmin, things is that when I set up my RAID I used the alt distro. Manuely partitioned the drives in 1+0 raid mdadm. The UI front end was later built (Gnome) as I wanted it. More to the point. How do I check if there is a superuser account. I see /root home if I sudo.
[16:38] <llutz> kolix: idk
[16:39] <theadmin> Onryo: There is one, it's just it has no password set
[16:39] <theadmin> Onryo: Do you *really* need it? Just run the command I've PMed to you, then
[16:39] <TheLegace> hi guys, im migrating from fedora, and this environment path is confusing me
[16:39] <TheLegace> im trying to set it in my profile
[16:39] <TheLegace> which file do i modify?
[16:40] <theadmin> TheLegace: $PATH?
[16:40] <theadmin> TheLegace: .bashrc is probably the best place
[16:40] <Onryo> theadmin no but I need to make ultra sure it is not on.
[16:40] <TheLegace> now i see a whole buncha if statements
[16:40] <theadmin> Onryo: By default, it is not.
[16:41] <TheLegace> to do an export PATH_VAR= /path
[16:41] <TheLegace> do i just write it in the file?
[16:41] <theadmin> TheLegace: export PATH=/home/you/bin:$PATH # Something like this
[16:42] <TheLegace> theadmin, PATH is not in the bashrc file
[16:42] <Seven_Six_Two> I tried to install beta2 to see if I could fix my pulseaudio(won't start) and it isn't showing my raid devices! It asks if I'd like to enable them, just before the partitioner, but they aren't listed with my partitions.
[16:42] <theadmin> TheLegace: So? It just reads the default values set wherever. You can just add that line and be fine
[16:42] <TheLegace> or do i just do it on command line
[16:42] <TheLegace> okie thats good
[16:43] <theadmin> Seven_Six_Two: 11.10 support is in #ubuntu+1
[16:43] <symaxian> Why wouldnt an enviroment variable set in .profile be available?
[16:43] <TheLegace> thanks
[16:43] <Onryo> theadmin I did not do anything by default the way I installed this system. The Kernel is from kernel.org etc .... Just want to know how to check once again.
[16:44] <theadmin> Onryo: You shouldn't bother, but you can lock the account by doing "sudo usermod -L root"
[16:44] <theadmin> Onryo: Even though that IS just being paranoid
[16:45] <clouder> ok, the boot loader of the usb stick is working, but after selecting "installung ubuntu" i get a black screen :/
[16:46] <vacho> can someone please help me? I want to install ODBC drivers for ORACLE
[16:46] <TheLegace> if im installing kubuntu should i choose gdm or kdm?
[16:46] <buhman> how can I tell apt to change architecutures and reinstall packages appropriately?
[16:47] <buhman> surely a 64-bit installation can bootstrap a 32-bit and then do some kexec sorcery and go from there right?
[16:48] <urlin2u> clouder, tap the shift key when you boot the stick hit f6 at the gui for choice of try without instal, install, check disc..ect, choose nomodeset for a low graphic boot.
[16:49] <urlin2u> TheLegace, where is that choice?
[16:49] <TheLegace> when i do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[16:49] <urlin2u> TheLegace, what is installed now?
[16:49] <urlin2u> what desktop
[16:50] <___MAX> vacho: wat is ur oracle version
[16:51] <TheLegace> i dont understand what you mean
[16:51] <TheLegace> i just typed that command
[16:51] <TheLegace> and its installing now
[16:52] <clouder> urlin2u: with every option i get a black screen
[16:52] <urlin2u> TheLegace, if your running a apt-get install of kubuntu you must have a install, what is that desktop already installed, or are you using a minimal install, details man is the point here. :D
[16:52] <TheLegace> it was gnome
[16:52] <TheLegace> thats installed
[16:53] <TheLegace> i just install 11.04 dvd
[16:53] <TheLegace> and then i want kde now
[16:53] <TheLegace> so im just installing it
[16:53] <traph> hi everyone
[16:53] <pants_> anyone have any experience with wacom tablets
[16:54] <traph> how can I reset the keyboard configuration, composite key and such...
[16:54] <glioros> what is the server url ffmpeg converts videos ?
[16:54] <urlin2u> TheLegace, not sure really, gdm is gnome, kdm is kubuntu, lets get others help I think.
[16:54] <pants_> i'm not sure if me resetting my resolution higher than neccesary or what did it, but the wacom libraries made me unable to sign into ubuntu
[16:54] <traph> after a fresh install, going through the installer, I have set the alt keys and I think that's why I cannot use the left alt key for anything under terminal or X11
[16:55] <pants_> or maybe it was because i tried installing gnome-shell and gnome3 and it didn't mesh well
[16:55] <urlin2u> clouder, do you have another computer to test the stick on, if you tap the shift at powering on you should get a gui right away, very quick.
[16:55] <TheLegace> urlin2u, its just a display manager
[16:55] <TheLegace> i think it has to do with the login screen you want
[16:56] <TheLegace> ya thats it
[16:56] <urlin2u> TheLegace, I realize that, I have just never used a dvd install.
[16:56] <glioros> what is the server url ffmpeg converts videos ?
[16:56] <TheLegace> urlin2u, it works the same either way
[16:56] <obx> does that one guy who's the be all on the forums for wacoms come in here?
[16:56] <urlin2u> TheLegace, I think your right on the login
[16:57] <slipttees> Hi all, activated the magnifying glass here and I can only see half the screen
[16:57] <obx> also, can you get rid of the little handles on scrollbars in ubuntu 11.04? they are kind of annoying
[16:57] <slipttees> There is some shortcut to turn off the magnifying glass
[16:57] <slipttees> ?
[16:58] <urlin2u> slipttees, have you logged out and back in to see if this gets fixed?
[16:58] <slipttees> urlin2u, no
[16:58] <Ellipsis753> hey, does anyone know of a widget thing for the ubuntu bar that replaces the need for the blue bar at the top of your program. Hopefully one with - [] X and move window.
[16:58] <qin> Could someone tell me how to get gmail (or any) labels work in mutt?
[16:58] <urlin2u> slipttees, I would try that, never used it there must be a wiki on it.
[16:59] <clouder> urlin2u: ok, other pc worked
[16:59] <Chat7112> hey
[16:59] <slipttees> urlin2u, :( .... my brother make this shit here :(
[16:59] <obx> anyone at all?
[16:59] <ikonia> slipttees: control the language please.
[17:00] <Calinou> Ellipsis753: you speak of a different theme?
[17:00] <obx> the little handles are getting kind of annoying and they don't work right with my touchpad
[17:00] <Calinou> try "Clearlooks"
[17:00] <slipttees> ikonia, sorry.
[17:00] <clouder> urlin2u: but shift doesnt show a gui
[17:00] <slipttees> Can anyone help me disable the magnifier in GDM?
[17:00] <urlin2u> clouder, cool so the stick appears to be good, when you tap the shift you want to do it repeatedly kina quick ti catch that first gui, I have to go to school in a few minutes but this is the place for help.
[17:01] <urlin2u> s/kinda/to
[17:02] <cheese>  /nick timetravel
[17:02] <cheese> hum
[17:02] <Ellipsis753> calinou, sure I just don't like having decorations at the top of windows uses up space. That said I'd still like buttons at the top to close minimise or maximise or move a window.
[17:02] <slipttees> Can anyone help me disable the magnifier in GDM?
[17:02] <Ellipsis753> also I'm on clearlooks, it's nice
[17:02] <conntrack-> Does tcp/udp port randomization create more CPU load?
[17:03] <urlin2u> slipttees, this might help. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Accessibility
[17:03] <slipttees> urlin2u, u are god :D
[17:04] <clouder> @urlin2u doesnt change anything, starts grub on usb stick again with same issues
[17:04] <urlin2u> slipttees, hardly, I'm agnostic, but we all work together for the good of all, lol
[17:04] <slipttees> urlin2u, :)
[17:04] <sarkis> hey all, so ubuntu by default doesn't load up .bash_profile everytime i start up a new gnome-terminal
[17:05] <alkafoo> urlin2u: you're unsure of the existence of yourself =P
[17:05] <sarkis> anyway to fix this?
[17:05] <conntrack-> Say on a webserver
[17:05] <neo_> cdv
[17:05] <alkafoo> sarkis: sure you're using bash?
[17:05] <urlin2u> alkafoo, the importance of.
[17:05] <sarkis> alkafoo: ya im reading bash_profile is only read once per login
[17:05] <alkafoo> sarkis: source ~/.bash_profile
[17:06] <Guest9968> hi all, please i did install open-cobol in my unbuntu 11.04 but i dont know where is the application. any help please?
[17:06] <urlin2u> clouder, do you have a linux install already there or was there on the HD?
[17:06] <llutz> sarkis: .bash_profile is only read when bash is invoked as login-shell
[17:06] <alkafoo> Guest9968: dpkg -L open-cobol | grep bin
[17:06] <obx> Guys, is there any way to get rid of this? http://i.imgur.com/iI6Q9.png
[17:06] <Guest9968> thx
[17:06] <nieros> Hello all- I'm running 11.04 and trying to use a USB to serial adapter- if I do a lsusb I see a ttyS0 and a ttyUSB0, so I know it's recognizing the unit. However if I try and run putty with it, it gets denied (I've tried both) Any assistance is appreciated.
[17:07] <Ellipsis753> I think I'm looking at this wrong, is there a terminal command to move the current window? (or one to close, minimise or maximise it)
[17:07] <alkafoo> obx: floating scrollbars, yes
[17:07] <obx> they are kind of annoying tbh
[17:07] <alkafoo> obx: http://mikebeach.org/2011/05/disable-the-overlay-scrollbars-in-ubuntu-natty/ maybe
[17:07] <Guest9968> thx
[17:07] <alkafoo> I can see how they would be
[17:07] <sarkis> llutz: interesting.. byobu for some reason appended . $(which byobu-launch) at the end of .bash_profile
[17:07] <sarkis> that should go in .bashrc instead then
[17:07] <musharraf> hi to all
[17:08] <obx> it wouldn't be so bad but my touchpad is so sensitive that it makes scrolling a huge pain
[17:08] <alkafoo> Ellipsis753: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyboardShortcuts
[17:08] <musharraf> i just now install ubuntu 10.04
[17:08] <musharraf> its so nice!
[17:08] <alkafoo> obx: can probably configure that, but =)
[17:08] <alkafoo> musharraf: +)
[17:09] <easylancer> How can I find out what is the default version of python on ubuntu 10?
[17:09] <obx> yeah i don't remember how to configure my synaptic touchpad and honestly i remember it being a huge pain
[17:09] <musharraf> im so happy to install it.
[17:09] <SIFTU> easylancer: python -V
[17:10] <obx> i think i got it to where it doesn't randomly do things when i type, but i'm not sure
[17:10] <alkafoo> obx: I guess if it only bothers you when combined with this...
[17:10] <nieros> I feel like a damn usb to serial port should just work :|
[17:10] <easylancer> SIFTU, I accidentally installed another version of python and the original seem to be corrupted, is there a way to rollback?
[17:10] <alkafoo> obx: you should be able to setup a shortcut for disabling it for long typing sessions
[17:10] <obx> i think that's what i did iirc
[17:10] <alkafoo> easylancer: accidentally how?
[17:11] <obx> this is my third reinstall of ubuntu in a couple days because i half hazardly just start doing things
[17:11] <skrite> nieros, what is the problem ( just got here) serial to usb adapter?
[17:11] <easylancer> I was trying to install MySQL-python and it seemed to install a version of python with it
[17:11] <SIFTU> easylancer: what version are you running?
[17:11] <easylancer> commands like easy_install and pip which were working before are now missing
[17:12] <easylancer> SIFTU, python 2.7.1+
[17:12] <zaxonspox> hello, did sbdy succeded instaling BCM4312 wifi card?
[17:12] <obx> One more question, does evolution have a minimize to somewhere else and not in the lower bar option?
[17:12] <SIFTU> easylancer: nothin wrong with that version.. what version do you need
[17:13] <nieros> skrite: I can grep it out of dmesg, and see it with lsusb: but (ttys0/ttyusb0) both don't work when I try and use a console emulator.
[17:13] <nieros> which are the two interfaces showing up
[17:13] <easylancer> SIFTU, I just need easy_install working again really
[17:13] <tyoc213_> how I can do for ls -R to print also the full path (because Im doing a grep and I cant see the dirs)
[17:13] <obx> zaxon, shouldn't that install with restricted hardware? i've got a broadcom wifi card and it showed up right away
[17:13] <Ellipsis753> alkafoo, thank you but I need terminal commands rather than keyboard shortcuts for closing windows etc.
[17:13] <obx> i could be mistaken of course
[17:14] <zaxonspox> obx, i did installed it, but: the card is seeing WIFI but wont connect to ANY
[17:14] <skrite> nieros, on my server, i have to give ownership to my user each time i reboot or i cannot use them in my software
[17:14] <easylancer> SIFTU, how do I change the default version of python also, I am sure the version that came with Ubuntu 10 was python 2.6
[17:14] <easylancer> I would like to revert back to that
[17:14] <SIFTU> easylancer: hard to tell without more specifics, but python looks fine if you are running 2.7, maybe you need to install some modules
[17:14] <nieros> hrm
[17:15] <obx> hmm.
[17:15] <SIFTU> easylancer: do you have python2.6 in /usr/bin
[17:15] <alkafoo> Ellipsis753: oh?  Why's that?
[17:15] <easylancer> SIFTU, yes I do
[17:17] <SIFTU> easylancer: and ls -la /usr/bin/python is a sym link to pythion2.7
[17:17] <SIFTU> easylancer: ?
[17:17] <Ellipsis753> alkafoo, I'd like to have buttons on the top bar to do those things, I can't think of another way and it's not just me that uses the computer, I'd like to have a way to do those things without using the keyboard. It's not just me that uses the computer and I know at least one of the other uses downright refuses to use keyboard commands.
[17:17] <zaxonspox> obx, any idea? how to diagnose whats wrong?
[17:17] <hyper_ch> how do you file a bug at launchpad?
[17:17] <easylancer> SIFTU, yes thats correct
[17:17] <SIFTU> easylancer: so you can just change that symlink
[17:17] <Chheapshot> If i enable ufw don't i have to reboot before it starts?
[17:17] <easylancer> SIFTU, I will try that
[17:17] <alkafoo> Ellipsis753: buttons... there should already be buttons at the top of each window for that
[17:18] <obx> No, I would see if you can get wired. See if the hardware is activated and check the forums. I know  every now and again my wireless card drivers will install WITH the system, and others I have to be connected via ethernet to do it.
[17:19] <Ellipsis753> alkafoo, I'd like buttons on the bar at the top, I've removed the standard bar for that. Are you deliberately being silly here?
[17:20] <xtremelybored> does ubuntu support radeon hd 6500?
[17:20] <zaxonspox> obx, so you didnt use ndiswrapper, or CLI with b43-installer or fwcutter?
[17:22] <clouder> i have an intel i3 with intel grafic chipset - when i try to start the live stick i get the bootloader (not the purpel GUI) and when i choose an option the screen turns black and nothing happens
[17:22] <alkafoo> Ellipsis753: nope, I just don't read minds on Wednesday
[17:22] <obx> no, mine just installed with restricted hardware. is this a dell computer? i know i've had problems and had to use ndiswrapper in the past
[17:23] <Kartagis> !lamp
[17:23] <zaxonspox> obx, no its Lenovo G550, with ndiswrapper it looks like its installed, but saw no WIFIs, with b43 module its seeing WIFIs but refuse to connect to ANY
[17:23] <systemclient> I am trying to get my university VPN working. I installed vpnc and the network manager thing, imported the .prf file and the connect fails immideatly "because there is no valid PSK"
[17:23] <systemclient> what is going on there?
[17:24] <tiago> when doing dd to copy my system to an external HD, does it also copy the empty space??
[17:25] <alkafoo> tiago: yup
[17:25] <slipttees> Can anyone help me disable the magnifier in GDM?
[17:25] <Ellipsis753> alkafoo, ok, sorry, Just that I'd already explained it in further detail further up and the pointing out that windows had a X in the top right thing made me wonder. Thanks anyway.
[17:25] <alkafoo> tiago: not much point dd'ing an open source OS
[17:25] <SIFTU> tiago: yes it is a block level copy (exact)
[17:25] <tiago> alkafoo: is this copying faster though?,
[17:25] <alkafoo> tiago: it's much more useful for Windows, which by default attempts to bind itself to the hardware in odd ways
[17:25] <alkafoo> Ellipsis753: right
[17:25] <tiago> and would making an image of system overcome this problem?
[17:26] <alkafoo> Ellipsis753: short of some built-in cute way, you can probably manage it with a script and wmctrl or devilspie
[17:26] <obx> i really wish i could be more help man, i would definitely go to the forums and see if there's anything you can conjure up there.
[17:27] <Ellipsis753> ok thank you.
[17:27] <slipttees> Can anyone help me disable the magnifier in login screen?
[17:29] <Chheapshot> is it possible to make a guest account without a password. mainly for just web browsing
[17:29] <alkafoo> Ellipsis753: xprop can tell you the ACTIVE window, couple that with wmctrl
[17:29] <slipttees> Hi all, activated the magnifying glass here and I can only see half the screen
[17:29] <Chheapshot> Or what is the best and "safest" way to do it
[17:29] <slipttees> There is some shortcut to turn off the magnifying glass
[17:31] <zaxonspox> slipttees, Shift+WinKey+ScrollOut mayby?
[17:31] <slipttees> zaxonspox, GDM
[17:35] <tiago> how can i restore my system from an iso file ?? is it possible to say so in the reinstall ?
[17:35] <andrea_> ciao
[17:35] <andrea_> !list
[17:36] <clouder> i have an intel i3 with intel grafic chipset - when i try to start the live stick i get the bootloader (not the purpel GUI) and when i choose an option the screen turns black and nothing happens
[17:36] <honeybee> I just wired a SATA cable to a CD/DVD drive. I doesn't appear on the desktop. Is there a mount guru here :) ?
[17:37] <honeybee> I did a lsscsi giving: [6:0:0:0]    cd/dvd  Optiarc  DVD RW AD-7170S  1.00  /dev/sr0
[17:41] <organiks> hey all
[17:42] <honeybee> hi organiks
[17:42] <zaxonspox> honeybee, did you put a Media in the drive?
[17:42] <preetam> pls help me my webcam is not working in ubuntu 11.04. The cheese prog hangs whenevr I open the prog
[17:42] <honeybee> zaxonspox: There's a DVD in it
[17:43] <thauriswulfa> HELP:ubuntu hangs on dell when usb device is plugged
[17:44] <Escherial> hey, anyone happen to know why the unity launcher bar in 11.04 tends to get stuck under other applications?
[17:44] <Escherial> it most often happens with eclipse :\ incredibly frustrating
[17:44] <WilGil> hello, I am trying to install ubuntu desktop from the alternate install cd.  When I hit the select and install software part if i check ubuntu desktop i get an install failed message.  Anyone know why?
[17:44] <Escherial> actually, strangely, i can still click icons on it; it just doesn't visually appear
[17:45] <Escherial> WilGil: posting the message would probably help
[17:45] <WilGil> one sec
[17:45] <Chheapshot> how does this ufw work. I enable it and didnt reboot or anything after it but after 2hours it suddenly kills my ssh connection. Why didnt it kill it the moment i enabled it?
[17:45] <zaxonspox> honeybee, try: sudo mount /dev/sr0 -t iso9660 /media/folder_that_exist
[17:46] <honeybee> zaxonspox: :) OK
[17:46] <skegeek> When I run 'aptitude upgrade' it gives a rather long 'changes' report. Is it vital to read ALL of this before I continue or can I treat it like a disclaimer?
[17:47] <Kartagis> what package has bash completion?
[17:47] <honeybee> (I should have tried that) ..... It now says mount: no medium found on /dev/sr0
[17:48] <zaxonspox> honeybee, it looks like blank CD, did you open some burning soft to check that?
[17:48] <dv310p3r> Why when I unzip files that come from another persons computer, that are 755, they turn into 700. How can I stop that?
[17:48] <honeybee> zaxonspox: Its a DVD video. I will try something with a file system
[17:48] <WilGil> Ok, when installing i get a dialog box with the title "[!!] Select and install software".  Inside the box it says "Installation step failed.  An installation step failed.  You can try to run the failing item again from the menu, or skip it and choose something else.  The failing step is: Select and install software"
[17:49] <oCean> Kartagis: many packages. See /etc/bash_completion.d/
[17:49] <WilGil> if i don't choose install ubuntu desktop in the software selection screen i do not get this message.
[17:49] <Gnea> dv310p3r: umask controls that
[17:49] <WilGil> But I do want the desktop
[17:50] <The_Janitor> hey guys, where can i download the proprietary drivers for the BCM4318 wireless chip?
[17:50] <dv310p3r> Gnea, umask?
[17:50] <Gnea> dv310p3r: it's a command, use the terminal
[17:51] <honeybee> zaxonspox: It seems to work for a CDROM
[17:51] <Gnea> dv310p3r: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/understanding-linux-unix-umask-value-usage.html
[17:52] <honeybee> zaxonspox: I actually want to burn a CD/DVD
[17:52] <zaxonspox> The_Janitor, ndiswrapper-common and ndisgtk
[17:52] <Escherial> WilGil: this may help you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=779468
[17:52] <zaxonspox> The_Janitor, if you want to install from a windows drivers
[17:53] <Escherial> WilGil: apparently, reburning the CD should help
[17:53] <knandan> Hi..I am trying to install ubuntu desktop on vmware..
[17:53] <knandan> but it seems it doesnt install..rather i get a command promt after some time..
[17:53] <knandan> can anybody please throw some light on this
[17:54] <WilGil> Escherial: thanks I have read that already.  I have tried with the cd and a usb
[17:55] <WilGil> I also tried on another machine in virtualbox like that thread suggested and had the same problem.  I have been working on this for 2 days and am starting to think there is a problem with the alt install image.
[17:55] <zaxonspox> WilGil, try to do MD5SUM on the downloaded ISO to check if its correct
[17:55] <wcchandler> I'm only pulling 4 kbps when updating... shouldn't I automatically be bumped to the closest/fastest mirror?
[17:55] <willynilly> is ubuntuforums.org giving blank screens to anyone else?
[17:55] <willynilly> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-445571.html
[17:55] <evilgenius> Hello, i need the channel for ubuntu germany
[17:56] <OerHeks> !de > evilgenius
[17:56] <WilGil> zaxonspox: thanks, but i have tried that.  also i downloaded as a torrent which inherently does hash checks.  i am fairly  certain that if there is a problem with the image it is the one being distributed
[17:57] <OerHeks> willynilly, looks fine here
[17:57]  * OerHeks does not say anything about the content age
[17:57] <willynilly> blank on two different computers here OerHeks
[17:57] <WilGil> I am about to try ubuntu server and see if that works.  I can't use the desktop cd because i am installing on a raid array
[17:57] <willynilly> 2 different operating systems
[17:58] <QuikNik> hey all, how big of a flash drive to I need in order to boot ubuntu off of? the iso is ~700ish mb so do I need one just big enough for that? or should I have more free space available
[17:58] <willynilly> also from my server
[17:58] <willynilly> I'm dubious that it works fine for you OerHeks, unless you're not talking about the link I posted
[17:58] <inc0> hi, is there any way to reset permissions? I ran chmod -R 777 on root...
[17:59] <OerHeks> is says "View Full Version : I can't install VMWAre Server because I had installed VM Player before" May 16th, 2007, 08:44 AM
[17:59] <savid> Ok, so I made the mistake of installing gnome3.   Is it possible to go back without doing a full re-install?
[18:00] <Kartagis> how can I fix this? http://pastebin.com/9RCae1JP
[18:00] <OerHeks> savid no
[18:00] <Kartagis> inc0: no
[18:00] <savid> OerHeks, fantastc :-P
[18:00] <alkafoo> savid: yes, but what they're saying is a reinstall will be simpler
[18:01] <inc0> Kartagis, crap, so its eighter manual solving it or reinstalling whole system?
[18:01] <Kartagis> inc0: yes
[18:01] <Kartagis> how can I fix this? http://pastebin.com/9RCae1JP
[18:01] <alkafoo> downgrading is not something Debian distros "support" =)
[18:01] <alkafoo> but obviously it can be done with a certain amount of effort and knowhow
[18:02] <alkafoo> usually a lot more than just reinstalling
[18:04] <Kingsy> ok I have an mp3 player.. and when I plug it into my pc it only detects about 50% of the time.. why might that be?
[18:05] <BenXYZ> Is there a utility for monitoring disk reads / drive access bundled with Ubuntu?
[18:05] <Kingsy> but also as a seperate question... when I do get it to detect what application can I use to sync music to it?
[18:06] <happyface> is there a way to back up my install's current state and restore it on another machine?
[18:06] <Kingsy> for windows I use windwos media player..
[18:06] <Kingsy> banshee doesnt work
[18:06] <ckb> hey guys, I have a VM running ubuntu and a shared folder setup to my working copy of my SVN. On my Ubuntu VM, /path/to/root is the document root for apache2, and /mnt/hgfs/SVN is the path to my working copy. If I want these 2 directories to mirror each other, what is my best bet?
[18:06] <Kingsy> I can see the mp3 player appear in banshee for a moment then it vanishes..
[18:08] <kjp_1212> hey guys, I am new to ubuntu and I cant get my wifi connection(it says firmware missing). I googled and found that we have to connect an ethernet cable and then click on additional drivers but the problem is I dont have a cable.Is there another way???
[18:09] <usr13> kjp_1212: So you are trying to establish a wireless connection?
[18:09] <skrite> kjp_1212: not an easier way, but you could put the software on a cd or usb
[18:09] <alkafoo> happyface: yes, but usually just backing up ~/ (which includes all your personal configurations and personal data) and a list of what packages you installed is enough
[18:09] <alkafoo> happyface: the OS files themselves area already mirrored in thousands of places
[18:09] <usr13> kjp_1212: What is your wireless device? (make and model) (lspci)
[18:10] <happyface> alkafoo, alright, I essentially want to move a real install to a VMWare instance
[18:10] <skegeek> The bind9 package is used by many packages or only needed for DNS servers?
[18:10] <alkafoo> happyface: ah, there're instructions for that online
[18:10] <happyface> alkafoo, really? hmm ill look harder then thanks
[18:10] <lauratika> hi everyone i wonder if there is a linux portable anti virus i can use with a ubuntu pen drive?
[18:10] <alkafoo> happyface: I mean you can convert to RAW or something and then dd to a partition, something like that
[18:10] <usr13> kjp_1212: In other words, what does   lspci  say about your wifi device?
[18:10] <alkafoo> happyface: you can also just do a network copy with rsync or ... well even cp
[18:10] <happyface> alkafoo, that's always an option
[18:11] <quellhorst> anyone seen an install that can't properly reboot a system?
[18:11] <dv310p3r> So, i've checked my umask, and it's supposed to be setting new directories to 755, but it's setting them to 700? Any ideas.
[18:11] <dv310p3r> in my etc/profile, it's 022, which is correct.
[18:11] <dirtycookie> hi, i have an eeepc 701 where i freshly installed xubuntu. the eeepc has a sdcard slot. inserting a 2gb generic card is no problem, it gets mounted automatically. But inserting a 16gb card from Transcend, doesnt get mounted automatically
[18:11] <quellhorst> so when it gets to the point where the system should shut down, it just hangs?
[18:11] <alkafoo> happyface: set up your partitions and boot a live image on top of your VMware install, then just cp it over
[18:11] <usr13> lauratika: This is for inspecting MS Windows PCs?
[18:11] <alkafoo> quellhorst: could be your BIOS config
[18:11] <alkafoo> or lack of BIOS config
[18:11] <lauratika> usr13 yes
[18:11] <dirtycookie> can someone help
[18:11] <evilgenius> Hello, i cant start ubuntu software center after update-manager
[18:12] <alkafoo> dirtycookie: maybe it isn't formatted
[18:12] <usr13> lauratika: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[18:12] <dirtycookie> alkafoo: no it is formated from a windows machine with fat32
[18:12] <Frots> I love ubuntu
[18:13] <happyface> alkafoo, cool, thanks
[18:13] <ckb> cool thanks for the help guys
[18:13] <conntrack-> o_O
[18:13] <dirtycookie> alkafoo: when i try to mount it via terminal, the mount command hangs
[18:13] <alkafoo> dirtycookie: if there's nothing on it, you might try reformatting it
[18:13] <dirtycookie> alkafoo: ctrl+c doesnt have any effect, only when i take out the card i gain control from my console
[18:14] <lauratika> usr13: i want more of a AV not the wholoe bundle
[18:14] <dirtycookie> alkafoo: tried different formats already
[18:14] <lauratika> any ideas of just an AV...
[18:14] <usr13> dirtycookie: fdisk -l  #What does that say about your device
[18:14] <alkafoo> lauratika: is clamscan not on there?
[18:14] <dirtycookie> usr13: 1 sec
[18:14] <usr13> lauratika: Do you not have enough disk space?
[18:15] <lauratika> usr13: exactly
[18:15] <happyface> alkafoo, VMWare has a product called VMware vCenter Converter which does this for us :D
[18:15] <varnie> hi
[18:15] <lauratika> alkafoo: no is not there
[18:15] <varnie> how do I fix the following: random switches from one language to another while typing letters?
[18:16] <dirtycookie> usr13: fdisk -l /dev/sdb1 gives me: "Cannot open /dev/sdb"
[18:16] <usr13> lauratika: It is only a couple of megabytes..... ?
[18:16] <alkafoo> happyface: wouldn't know, I don't use proprietary binary nonsense =)
[18:16] <varnie> i.e. I have EN and RU langs but when I type in English from time to time there appears some russian letters. that's odd.
[18:16] <usr13> dirtycookie: Must be defective
[18:16] <lauratika> usr13: what is the AV?... i dont need the other stuff
[18:17] <dirtycookie> usr13: impossible because i bought it today and i formated it on a windows machine, copied files onto it from a windows machine
[18:17] <varnie> ops, I found out
[18:17] <varnie> it was enabled 'separate layout for each window" flag ;)
[18:17] <skrite> varnie:  what window manager are you using?
[18:18] <varnie> gnome
[18:18] <usr13> lauratika: It downloads current virus definitions at the time you use it, and that is the only effective way.  (It ops for a couple, I think McAffe and AVG, I always just use AGV).  But this discussion is clearly OT
[18:20] <usr13> dirtycookie: Why did you format it?  Wasnt' it already formatted?  What filesystem did you format to?
[18:20] <usr13> dirtycookie: What filesystem did you install on it?
[18:20] <varnie> system->preferences->layouts-> switch off 'separate layout for each window'
[18:20] <dirtycookie> usr13: i formated it to fat32
[18:20] <cypha> how can I test to see if my system can beep?
[18:21] <usr13> dirtycookie: What fiflesystem came on it when you got it?
[18:21] <dirtycookie> usr13: fat32
[18:21] <usr13> Did you change the partition(s)?
[18:22] <alkafoo> cypha: you can use any commandline audio player for that
[18:22] <pyro_killer> Gentlemen! i have  aproblem with my ubumtu server, the speed up and down through apache is slow as hell , is there a way to tweak it? already reniced the user www-data to 10
[18:22] <cypha> alkafoo, for beeps?
[18:23] <usr13> alkafoo: I think cypha is wanting to hear the MB beep, (not the sound chip).
[18:23] <alkafoo> yeah I know
[18:23] <alkafoo> but people use that because they don't realize they can use mplayer =P
[18:23] <pyro_killer> it should give me 1-10MB it only gives me 20-80kB
[18:23] <usr13> cypha: Hold down a key like maybe delete or escape key while booting.
[18:24] <usr13> or one of the F keys
[18:24] <alkafoo> or echo -e "\a"
[18:25] <cypha> no sound for echo -e "\a"
[18:25] <Kingsy> what application can I use to sync music to an mp4 player?
[18:25] <Kingsy> banshee doesnt work..
[18:25] <alkafoo> lucky you
[18:25] <alkafoo> Kingsy: which mp4 player?
[18:25] <skegeek> Does updatedb just update a list of installed packages or is there more to it?
[18:25] <usr13> Kingsy: Your file manager.
[18:25] <usr13> skegeek: no
[18:26] <alkafoo> skegeek: it doesn't do that, it makes a database of file names/paths on your box
[18:26] <alkafoo> skegeek: if you want something that doesn't rely on a database, use find
[18:26] <usr13> skegeek: The whole filesystem
[18:26] <alkafoo> skegeek: if you want package info, use dpkg or aptitude
[18:26] <usr13> skegeek:  or apt-get
[18:28] <Kingsy> usr13: nautilus wouldnt work.. it needs to be "synced"
[18:28] <Kingsy> if you just copy the files then the mp3 player says "no media" under music
[18:28] <usr13> skegeek: If you want to see what you have installed, do  ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list
[18:29] <Kingsy> alkafoo: its a samsung YP-K5
[18:29] <lauratika> i will wipe a hard drive that has windows 7 right now, but want a dual boots with ubunutu...which one should i install first?... windows or linux
[18:29] <Kingsy> alkafoo: its just an mp3 player
[18:29] <usr13> Kingsy: It will if you reboot it.
[18:29] <pyro_killer> laurtika: windows 7
[18:29] <AG1T> Windows 7
[18:29] <Kingsy> usr13: nope
[18:30] <Kingsy> usr13: it says "no file"
[18:30] <Kingsy> it needs to be "synced"
[18:30] <alkafoo> lauratika: installing Windows first will save you a little time
[18:30] <usr13> Kingsy: I don't know what your problem is but I've done it plenty of times on several mp3 players and works just fine.
[18:31] <usr13> It will sync when it is re-started
[18:31] <Kingsy> banshee seems to detect it but then it vanishes from the list on the left hand side after a second or so
[18:31] <Kingsy> I can still see it in nautilus tho
[18:31] <alkafoo> lauratika: Windows and Linux both have their own boot loaders; if you install Ubuntu second, it should auto-configure to list both OSes at bootup; if you install Windows second, you have to go back and reconfigure manually
[18:31] <Kingsy> usr13: what do you mean? I have restarted the mp3 player..
[18:32] <usr13> Kingsy: Well, either the files are there or they are not.
[18:32] <lauratika> alkafoo: so windows first will be, thanx
[18:32] <usr13> what kind of mp3 player is it?
[18:33] <Kingsy> usr13: its a samsung YP-K5
[18:35] <alkafoo> Kingsy: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22yp-k5%22%20%22linux%22
[18:37] <cypha> any way to get my system beeps working?
[18:39] <Kingsy> thanks
[18:41] <pyro_killer> in ubuntu server, are there any restriction files for apache2 that restricts speed to eaach individual user?
[18:41] <pyro_killer> *ip
[18:41] <Kartagis> how can I fix this? http://pastebin.com/9RCae1JP
[18:42] <dr_spork> exit
[18:42] <antivirtel> hi, can someone suggest me an SMS sending/reciving app? I have a "413c:8184 Dell F3607gw v2 Mobile Broadband Module" built in to my netbook. Please suggest me an app!
[18:43] <Fargh> anyone running firefox to version 7 ?
[18:44] <pyro_killer> Kartagis: are you building perl from source?
[18:44] <skegeek> Is Zend Optimizer in the repos?
[18:45] <Kartagis> pyro_killer: no, I am installing packages
[18:46] <pyro_killer> kartagis: try running this command: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[18:47] <pyro_killer> kartagis: if that really does nothing: Edit /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local and add the following line:
[18:47] <pyro_killer> en_GB ISO-8859--1
[18:47] <Kartagis> pyro_killer: http://pastebin.com/XFLzf5WJ
[18:48] <Kartagis> pyro_killer: I don't have such a file
[18:51] <pyro_killer> Kartagis: then create the file
[18:52] <pyro_killer> i still havent gotten any suport on my problem of a slow ubuntu server
[18:52] <llutz> Kartagis: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locale
[18:54] <Kartagis> llutz: http://pastebin.com/Vk0VgTc1
[18:54] <llutz> Kartagis: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[18:54] <pyro_killer> i stil say create the file and add the line
[18:55] <Anarchy7> how to copy a file from one place to another?
[18:55] <jexmex> for some reason my windows drive is not showing up, well it is, but only "SYSTEM RESERVE"
[18:55] <pyro_killer> Anarchy7: cp /the/file /where/you/want/a/copy
[18:56] <llutz> Kartagis: ubuntu seem to have a different way (debian here, sry) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale
[18:58] <Anarchy7> thanks pyro_killer
[18:58] <Anarchy7> how to get out of man?
[18:58] <usr13> jexmex: Where do you see "SYSTEM RESERVE"?
[18:58] <usr13> Anarchy7: q
[18:58] <jexmex> sidebar in the listings of Computer, it says  GB Hard Disk: SYSTEM RESERVED
[18:59] <jexmex> thats the drive windows is on, but all that is in there is boot folder and System Volume Information
[18:59] <usr13> jexmex: So, which partition is that?
[18:59] <jexmex> should be c: drive
[18:59] <usr13> jexmex: So, which partition is that?
[19:00] <jexmex> not following, sorry
[19:00] <usr13> jexmex: sudo fdisk -l
[19:00] <usr13> jexmex: sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit
[19:00] <usr13> and send resulting URL, we'll have a look
[19:01] <jexmex> http://paste.ubuntu.com/698659/
[19:01] <usr13> jexmex: mount  #See if it mounted now.
[19:01] <Ellipsis753> Is there like a website where I can find lots of nice little widget things for the bar at the top?
[19:01] <icarious> Is there an official free variant of ubuntu? with a blobfree kernel and libre packages ?
[19:02] <X-warrior> Is there a web music player for server ? Similar to transmission web but a music player?
[19:02] <usr13> jexmex: mount |pastebinit  #Send resulting URL and we'll have a look.
[19:03] <jexmex> http://paste.ubuntu.com/698660/
[19:04] <jexmex> i like that pastebinit program
[19:05] <usr13> jexmex: I see that you have  /dev/sda1 & /dev/sdf1 & /dev/sdf2  mounted.  What I do not see, are any Linux partitions. Are you booting to a LiveCD?  Or what? And what exactly are you wanting to do with this system?  (What is your end goal?)
[19:05] <usr13> or are you using wubi?
[19:06] <jexmex> its installed (I installed from windows installer)
[19:06] <usr13> jexmex: Yea, I like it too.
[19:06] <usr13> jexmex: So it is wubi?
[19:06] <jexmex> I just want functioning install, when I did install I did it because my now ex employee said that it would run in windows, but after I did install, he realized it would just install in windows, but then dual boot
[19:07] <usr13> !wubi | jexmex
[19:07] <jexmex> yeah pretty sure its wubi
[19:07] <usr13> jexmex: If you have a wubi install, I am not the one to help you.  I know little if anything about wubi.
[19:07] <jexmex> am I better off uninstalling it and do a regular dual boot install?
[19:08] <usr13> jexmex: Yes (IMHO)
[19:08] <jexmex> ok I will do that later today, back to windows for me for now :)
[19:08] <usr13> or... not so humble  ....
[19:08] <jexmex> thanks for all your help though
[19:08] <icarious> does the "free software only" option during installation removes blobs from the kernel?
[19:09] <usr13> icarious: What is a blob?
[19:09] <usr13> Only thing I can associate is a very old SiFi movie.
[19:10] <auronandace> usr13: i think he means binary blobs (like firmwares)
[19:10] <taza> How would I allow all users to update system?
[19:10] <usr13> o
[19:10] <taza> Just update system, not do anything else admin-related
[19:10] <X-warrior> Is there a web music player for server ? Similar to transmission web but a music player?
[19:10] <usr13> taza: Include them in admin group
[19:11] <taza> usr13: No, that's a bad idea
[19:11] <icarious> yup i meant non-free binary blobs
[19:11] <genii-around> taza: Alternately add an allowed entry in sudoers file specifically for some command like sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:11] <usr13> taza: What?  Allowing them to update the system?  Or...?
[19:11] <taza> Also a bad idea.
[19:11] <icarious> i want a clean blob free system. sticking to Debian cause of it. is there any way i can use a similar environment under ubuntu?
[19:12] <taza> icarious: No
[19:12] <icarious> taza: ok.
[19:12] <taza> (Okay fine IIRC there was an ubuntu derivative 100% binary blob free, but can't recall it.)
[19:12] <usr13> taza: So what do you suggest?
[19:12] <taza> usr13: I don't *know*, but I know that idea is a bad one too.
[19:13] <Gentoo64> X-warrior, i think mpd is not 100% sure
[19:13] <icarious> taza: i guess you are talking about trisquel. but its not official
[19:13] <usr13> taza: Well, I guess it depends on what you consider good or bad.  Why don't YOU just do the updates?
[19:13] <GOMI> is it possible that things in /tmp are automaticlly get removed ??
[19:13] <X-warrior> Gentoo64, thanks will take a look
[19:13] <taza> usr13: Would you stop asking me questions about why and help with the how?
[19:13] <GOMI> i put some things there but nowhere to find now
[19:13] <ayurvedas> hi
[19:14] <usr13> taza: I suppose you could use  a cron job to do it once in a while.  Set up some sort of schedule?
[19:14] <taza> icarious: Yeah, no official way to do it IIRC. Debian's fine if you're skilled enough to care.
[19:14] <usr13> taza: What version of Ubuntu is it?
[19:14] <taza> usr13: 11.04
[19:14] <icarious> taza: ya i guess so . they recently switched to blob-free since squeeze. anyways thanks mates
[19:15] <Smilex> how do I see what architecture my Ubuntu is? e.g. x86
[19:15] <Gentoo64> icarious, why do you want this? for the sake of being 100% open?
[19:15] <usr13> taza: Is a cron job acceptable?
[19:15] <GOMI> Smilex, uname
[19:15] <adubz> i have done a search in linux for something my first search gave 190 results my second only 196
[19:16] <adubz> how can i determine the 6 that were not found in the second search
[19:16] <Smilex> GOMI, it just says 'Linux'
[19:16] <genii-around> Smilex: uname -i
[19:16] <GOMI> Smilex, uname -a
[19:16] <taza> usr13: *sigh* No.
[19:16] <adubz> or how can i output to a txt file and compare to tiles and find the ones that are different between the two
[19:16] <icarious> Gentoo64: yes, and plus you are forced to trust vendors not to put backdoors and spyware into the blobs. dont wanna do that.
[19:16] <Smilex> ok, not to sound too stupid, what does x86_64
[19:16] <genii-around> Smilex: 64 bit
[19:16] <Gentoo64> icarious, depends what blobs. i trust nvidia
[19:17] <icarious> Gentoo64: i trust nouveau :P
[19:17] <Smilex> genii-around, and all this time I've been thinking it's 32bit. Thanks all anyway
[19:17] <Gentoo64> nvidia is too fast to compare though
[19:17] <Gentoo64> blobs arent bad...
[19:17] <Gentoo64> theyre blobs for a reason
[19:17] <GOMI> does the /tmp folder automatically empty it files  , because i know for sure i put some things there ....
[19:17] <usr13> taza: Well, if you werent opposed to giving some details about the system, we could probably give you more specific advise.   Why is it you can't do it from time to time.  You could use teamviewer and have them call you once a month or so and you could do it.
[19:18] <icarious> Gentoo64: i am having same performance with DRI under nouveau as i did with nvidia-glx once. 120-125 fps for a game called urban terror
[19:18] <taza> usr13: QUIT TRYING TO HELP ME WHEN YOU HAVE BARELY ENOUGH KNOWLEDGE TO WIPE YOUR ASS
[19:18] <Gentoo64> old card?
[19:18] <CoffeeIV> GOMI: I think /tmp is cleaned on a reboot
[19:18] <Gentoo64> icarious, ^
[19:18] <icarious> Gentoo64: 9400 GT,
[19:18] <auronandace> !attitude | taza
[19:18] <Gentoo64> i dont believe you lol
[19:18] <GOMI> CoffeeIV,  for real -_-!) ....that sucks
[19:18] <Gentoo64> no way is nouveau anywhere near as fast, never will be
[19:19] <Gentoo64> im on nouveau now
[19:19] <usr13> taza: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates
[19:19] <icarious> Gentoo64: its true. under debian testing with libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental installed along with nouveau
[19:19] <Gentoo64> ok whatever
[19:19] <taza> I won't have ACCESS to the hardware, and it's a kiosk machine.
[19:19] <usr13> taza: You are an idiot if you think you are going to get any more help from this channel.  I think you need to change your attitude.  I assure you that you are now on my ignore list.
[19:20] <icarious> that made me to switch. even i was using the proprietary nvidia till last week. things are working fine.
[19:21] <Gentoo64> i use nouveau on my hardened desktop (which i would never use blobs) and i miss vdpau and the speed. nouveau does seem to strangely have a better image quality though
[19:21] <taza> I still use proprietary nvidia, but then again, I like a little gaming
[19:21] <GOMI> CoffeeIV,  is it possible to get things back or is that the end ?
[19:21] <Gentoo64> mplayer2 tears with nouveau, dont with vdpau
[19:22] <icarious> Gentoo64: a few minor glitches are there i agree. but its workable . and 3d gaming performance is pretty good. so its fine with me.anyways i guess this is offtopic here . cause i am not a ubuntu guy :P
[19:22] <Gentoo64> me neither, but were not talking about distros
[19:22] <Gentoo64> :)
[19:22] <icarious> :P
[19:23] <icarious> we are having blob wars haha. yes you do need nvidia-settings. specially for dualhead
[19:23] <vacho> can someone please help me? I am getting this error : http://pastebin.com/1gjHzqV5 after following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PHPOracle
[19:23] <Gentoo64> ah idk i dont use dual, or nvidia settings. nouveau is improving though a lot of work goes into it
[19:23] <vacho> I get the error after runnig sudo pecl install oci8
[19:25] <icarious> i had dualhead before. with nvidia-settings i could configure both of the displays to spawn two different x screens. with nouveau i couldnt .
[19:25] <vacho> anyone please?
[19:26] <CoffeeIV> GOMI: if you rebooted and lost data in /tmp , it is probably the end.  However, if it is worth it to you to spend some time for a small chance at getting all the files back but without their original file names, then turn off the computer now, and do some research on finding a live CD with forensic tools on it that you can use to examine the disk
[19:27] <Gentoo64> GOMI, it empties on boot, so i think if you havent rebooted go into a livecd and they could be there still
[19:27] <CoffeeIV> GOMI: it's possible, but it might not be worth it.  It's not rocket science, but for a lot of new linux people, booting a live CD and scaning disk images and such would be the most advanced thing they'd ever done
[19:30]  * conntrack- chuckles
[19:31]  * alkafoo chuckles louder
[19:31] <davis_> will ever ubuntu support games like GTA 4, Portal 2, Black-Ops or type-like?
[19:31] <Gentoo64> not without wine
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> davis_: check the wine appdb
[19:31] <alkafoo> davis_: it's up to the game developers to make them more cross platform friendly
[19:32] <Gentoo64> linux doesnt have DX only opengl
[19:32] <Gentoo64> and almost all games use dx
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> davis_: games like doom3 have native installers, go moan to your short sighted game developers
[19:32]  * conntrack- is listening to foofighters - Pretender
[19:32] <auronandace> !ot conntrack-
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> conntrack-: nobody cares
[19:32] <taza> Pretty much all Humble Bundle games run on Linux
[19:32] <auronandace> !ot | conntrack-
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> davis_: its the responsibilities of games devs to either make games run nice in wine, or make a native installer
[19:33] <aries> hi guys
[19:33] <aries> hi guys
[19:33] <aries> hi guys
[19:34] <FloodBot1> aries: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> hi aries
[19:34] <aries> hi guys
[19:34] <aries> Hello
[19:34] <Gentoo64> fu
[19:34] <alkafoo> really even if they used DirectX but programmed their games better, they'd work via Wine
[19:34] <aries> Hi
[19:34] <aries> Hi
[19:34] <aries> Hi
[19:34] <FloodBot1> aries: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:34] <conntrack-> OK
[19:34] <alkafoo> plenty of decently programmed DirectX games work via Wine just fine
[19:34] <aries> hi
[19:34] <aries> hi
[19:34] <aries> hi
[19:34] <aries> hi
[19:34] <FloodBot1> aries: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:37] <GOMI> THANKS  for the tips , will try them out
[19:37] <Kartagis> I've updated /etc/adduser.conf to have the users' HOME under /srv/www, the directory and the user's own directory exists (I've checked), but when I do su - user, I get No directory, logging in with HOME=/. why?
[19:39] <Ghostx562> Hello using ubutn natty and i can't connect to the internet anymore need help to reconfig my connection
[19:39] <pyro_killer> post your ifconfig?
[19:40] <Ghostx562> Im using my laptop, how would i copy it here?
[19:40] <Ghostx562> ubuntu natty is on a desktop
[19:40] <pyro_killer> -.-
[19:40] <jcpham> i always troubleshoot network issues by pinging things
[19:40] <jcpham> so ifconfig
[19:40] <sunice> Ghostx562: Are you using the GUI, or did you make changes to /etc/network/interfaces?
[19:41] <jcpham> ping localhost. if localhost responds network most likely works
[19:41] <Ghostx562> using GUI, i restarted my pc and now network won't connect
[19:41] <Ghostx562> jcpham, just pinged localhost
[19:41] <Kartagis> I've updated /etc/adduser.conf to have the users' HOME under /srv/www, the directory and the user's own directory exists (I've checked), but when I do su - user, I get No directory, logging in with HOME=/. why?
[19:41] <jcpham> then ping your gateway
[19:42] <jcpham> then try to ping something public like 208.67.222.222
[19:42] <sunice> Ghostx562: when you do the ifconfig, do you have an IP?
[19:42] <Ghostx562> its still popping up on terminal saying 64 bytes from localhost (127.0.0.1): icmp_req## ttl=64 time=0.055 ms
[19:42] <jcpham> ctrl c
[19:43] <Ghostx562> for inet address it shows 127.0.0.1
[19:43] <Ghostx562> and mask 255.0.0.0
[19:43] <jcpham> thats lo
[19:43] <jcpham> no eth0
[19:44] <Ghostx562> eth0 doesn't show an IP
[19:44] <alkafoo> lower than lo =P
[19:44] <jcpham> who knows the dhclient command to release and renew?
[19:45] <sunice> Ghostx562: do you have connectivity lights on the ethernet?
[19:45] <Kartagis> dhclient -k I think
[19:45] <Ghostx562> sunice, not on my router, it isn't flashing
[19:45] <sunice> jcpham: ifup ifdow
[19:45] <jcpham> sounds like a hardware problem or dhcp
[19:45] <Ghostx562> nor on the back
[19:45] <sunice> jcpham: ifdown eth0
[19:46] <Ghostx562> ifdown: faild to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: permission denied
[19:46] <jcpham> Ghostx562, see sunice's comments on ways to release/renew enable/diasable
[19:46] <jcpham> sudo?
[19:47] <Ghostx562> using sudo i get, RTNETLINK answers: no such process
[19:47] <Ghostx562> using sudo ifdown eth0
[19:47] <Ghostx562> just tried ifup
[19:47] <afeijo> hey guys, how can I remove a folder named -files ?
[19:48] <coot> Hello, how to upgrade kubuntu 9.10 to kubuntu 11.04 at once?
[19:48] <jcpham> sudo cat /etc/network/interfaces
[19:48] <xangua>  coot clean install
[19:48] <jcpham> wait on the new version it isn't there anymore is it
[19:48] <usr13> alkafoo: rm -rf
[19:48] <jcpham> i quit
[19:49] <coot> xangua: thanks.
[19:49] <Ghostx562> jcpham, i get auto eth0
[19:49] <jcpham> I'd verify the NIC has a link light
[19:49] <Ghostx562> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[19:49] <jcpham> auto eth0 is dhcp
[19:49] <jcpham> yeah that's normal
[19:49] <brunner> which process or package is it that monitors the link state of my NIC and executes DHCP requests when a cable is connected?
[19:50] <Ghostx562> jcp, yep green light and a yellow one
[19:50] <ikonia> brunner: that will be done through gnome-network-manager normally
[19:50] <Kartagis> I've updated /etc/adduser.conf to have the users' HOME under /srv/www, the directory and the user's own directory exists (I've checked), but when I do su - user, I get No directory, logging in with HOME=/. why?
[19:50] <brunner> ikonia: got it.  so if I have a system that doesn't have X installed, it won't do that, correct?
[19:50] <jcpham> so you have a link. check
[19:50] <jcpham> localhost responds to pings
[19:51] <ikonia> brunner: depends if you configure it through /etc/network/interfaces, if you don't, no, it won't
[19:51] <Ghostx562> try to ping the gateway?
[19:51] <jcpham> but eth0 is nowhere to be seen
[19:51] <jcpham> yeah
[19:51] <Ghostx562> gateway is 192.168.1.1 right?
[19:51] <jcpham> ifconfig and tell me
[19:51] <ikonia> Kartagis: grep $username /etc/passwd and lets see the restuls (it contains no password inforamtion)
[19:52] <Ghostx562> jcp, i get Connect: Network is unreachable
[19:52] <brunner> ikonia: I want it to act the way gnome-network-manager does, where it does a DHCP request any time a cable is plugged in
[19:52] <Kartagis> ikonia: vetbbc.com:x:1000:100:BBC Veteriner Klinigi,,,:/srv/www/vetbbc.com:/bin/bash
[19:52] <jcpham> dmesg |grep eth0
[19:52] <ikonia> Kartagis: ok, so that's all set spot on, look at the permissions on the home dir as I suspect that's the issue
[19:53] <ikonia> brunner: if you configure it in the /etc/network/interfaces file, it will
[19:53] <Kartagis> ikonia: 600, maybe that's why?
[19:53] <soreau> afeijo: rm -rf -- -files
[19:53] <ikonia> Kartagis: is the user the owner ?
[19:53] <brunner> ikonia: okay, because I thought turning on dhcp via the interfaces file would just cause it to do a DHCP request when the machine is turned on
[19:53] <ikonia> Kartagis: (and look at the permissions on /srv and /srv/www as the user needs to be able to get into them to see his home dir
[19:53] <Kartagis> ikonia: yes
[19:53] <ikonia> brunner: well, it will, but the cables not plugged in, so it will keep going
[19:54] <ikonia> Kartagis: if you su - $user
[19:54] <afeijo> soreau, now my friend said he need to access that folder, is that possible?
[19:54] <ikonia> Kartagis: can you then cd into the home dir ?
[19:54] <Ghostx562> jcpham, use pastebin for outcome?
[19:54] <afeijo> cd -- -files worked
[19:54] <afeijo> thanks soreau !!
[19:54] <jcpham> sure
[19:55] <soreau> afeijo: The special option -- means "end of options" to every POSIX command except echo and test. E.g., mv -- *.png /somedir # see also http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/dict/terms/end_of_options
[19:55] <Kartagis> ikonia: permission denied
[19:55] <ikonia> Kartagis: we have a winner !
[19:55] <brunner> ikonia: but you're saying there's a way to configure the interfaces file to do a dhcp request each time a cable is plugged in?
[19:55] <Kartagis> ikonia: /srv/ and /srv/www are botb 755
[19:55] <ikonia> brunner: it will do that automatically
[19:55] <Kartagis> both*
[19:55] <ikonia> brunner: if you configure it in /etc/network/interfaces, it will do it
[19:55] <ikonia> Kartagis: ls -la /srv (pastebin please)
[19:56] <Ghostx562> jcpham, http://paste.ubuntu.com/698697/
[19:56] <jcpham> that looks like ahardware problem or dhcp problem to me
[19:56] <jcpham> i'm looking
[19:56] <wcchandler> when I'm shutting down it fails...  is there a log file of the messages from shutting down?  I want to know where it stops/hangs at
[19:57] <Kartagis> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/QbNaKSrE
[19:57] <Ghostx562> jcpham, rebooting router now
[19:57] <brunner> ikonia: got it, thanks
[19:57] <jcpham> Anyone have a second opinion on Ghostx562's paste above?
[19:57] <Ghostx562> jcpham, this happened after removing moblock
[19:57] <brunner> ikonia: is there a special command to make it behave that way?
[19:58] <jcpham> i'm googling what moblock is ;p
[19:58] <ikonia> brunner: no
[19:58] <Ghostx562> jcpham, got it workign
[19:58] <Ghostx562> working*
[19:58] <jcpham> yay
[19:58] <ikonia> Kartagis: ls -la /srv/www
[19:58] <Ghostx562> seems it needed a router reset
[19:58] <Ghostx562> gonna ping an ip now
[19:58] <jcpham> go figure :)
[19:58] <brunner> ikonia: so "auto eth0" and "iface eth0 inet dhcp" will do the trick?
[19:59] <ikonia> brunner: looks spot on
[19:59] <Kartagis> ikonia: drwx------ 3 vetbbc.com users 4096 Sep 28 23:57 vetbbc.com
[19:59] <Kartagis> I'm guessing 600 was the problem
[19:59] <ikonia> Kartagis: no
[20:00] <ikonia> Kartagis: can you run "id" on the user vetbbc.com
[20:00] <ikonia> Kartagis: 600 is a good permission
[20:00] <Ghostx562> jcpham, thanks when you said hardware i just unplugged my router and it worked again
[20:00] <brunner> ikonia: awesome. thanks so much :D
[20:00] <Kartagis> ikonia: uid=1000(vetbbc.com) gid=100(users) groups=100(users)
[20:00] <jcpham> Ghostx562 you can now troubleshoot a debin network problem!
[20:00] <ikonia> Kartagis: that should be fine
[20:00] <ikonia> Kartagis: can the user get into /srv ?
[20:00] <jcpham> the only other issue would have been if you had NO eth0 and that would've most likely been a driver issue
[20:01] <Ghostx562> jcpham, i hope so
[20:01] <Kartagis> ikonia: yes, and /srv/www too. 700 fixed it though
[20:02] <ikonia> Kartagis: why do you need write access ?
[20:02] <ikonia> Kartagis: most odd
[20:02] <ikonia> Kartagis: glad your fixed
[20:02] <Kartagis> ikonia: thanks
[20:03] <staff_nowa> hi anybody programming in prolog ? have question
[20:04] <ikonia> staff_nowa: no, this is ubuntu support, not prolog
[20:04] <nn> how do i run a binary file that opens default in gedit?
[20:04] <nn> is there a command?
[20:04] <xangua> nn: right clic-properties-run as program
[20:05] <nn> i dont see that option anywhere
[20:06] <nn> anyone know anything about waf? im trying to install/compile some python scripts and im totally lost
[20:06] <deadpool> hey guys I am trying to install ubuntu 11.04, I downloaded the image from the website a few times and burned them onto the ct, but I was unable to install it from the reboot
[20:06] <deadpool> so I ended up downloading a torrent taht someone told me would work
[20:06] <deadpool> and it did install but I didn't know it was ubuntu server
[20:07] <deadpool> can I still use the regular ubuntu with the GUI from there?
[20:07] <genii-around> deadpool: Just install package ubuntu-desktop
[20:07] <Kartagis> ikonia: how do I fix http://pastebin.com/cj1nyvSV ?
[20:07] <deadpool> where do I do that
[20:07] <ikonia> Kartagis: they are just warnings,
[20:07] <Kartagis> ikonia: I've tried dpkg-reconfigure locales
[20:07] <ikonia> Kartagis: it's shell parameters, not system
[20:08] <ikonia> Kartagis: are they causing you a problem ?
[20:08] <genii-around> deadpool: eg: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[20:08] <Kartagis> ikonia: I don't to get them
[20:08] <Kartagis> want to*
[20:08] <deadpool> oh ok thanks geniil, I am switching from windows to ubuntu
[20:08] <paulus68> ikonia do you ever sleep ;)
[20:09] <ikonia> Kartagis: sorry what ?
[20:09] <ikonia> paulus68: sometimes
[20:09] <Kartagis> ikonia: I don't want to get them
[20:09] <ikonia> Kartagis: why ? are they causing you problems ?
[20:09] <ikonia> Kartagis: they are just warnings
[20:09] <paulus68> ikonia: most of the time when I am connecting you are wondering arround to oops that's just indicating that I don't sleep much either :)
[20:10] <Kartagis> ikonia: I didn't receive them before, and I'm afraid they might cause trouble in the future
[20:10] <ikonia> Kartagis: they shouldn't do, hence them being warnings
[20:11] <nn> 'bash: ./waf no such file or directory'
[20:11] <nn> how would i install waf
[20:11] <ikonia> nn: what do the instructions say
[20:11] <nn> yeah i dont understand the majority of the instructions actually
[20:11] <Ep1kMalware> hai guyz.
[20:12] <ikonia> nn: what does it actually say to do
[20:12] <Ep1kMalware> I need a little help, I'm a freebsd user and I've had some concerns about this ubuntu box.
[20:12] <Ep1kMalware> It's not making sense.
[20:12] <ikonia> Ep1kMalware: just ask
[20:13] <Ep1kMalware> it's mounted on sda3, sda2, sda1, sda0 and hda* don't exist.
[20:13] <Ep1kMalware> and it's making editing fstab a complete mess.
[20:13] <genii-around> Ep1kMalware: Ubuntu uses libata which makes all drives appear as sdX
[20:13] <ikonia> Ep1kMalware: that's fine, hdX doesn't exist any more due to libata, and sda0 is never a device, it starts at 1
[20:13] <Ep1kMalware> genii-around: I've done the same modifaction only last week and / was mounted on /dev/hda0
[20:14] <Ep1kMalware> wtf
[20:14] <Ep1kMalware> why does it start at 1?
[20:14]  * Ep1kMalware facepalms
[20:14] <Ep1kMalware> alright, thanks.
[20:15] <fdsadsa> http://pastebin.com/2Xb9cuBy
[20:15] <nn> ^ thats what it says to do
[20:15] <nn> but ./waf doesnt do anything
[20:15] <nn> and i dont know how to install it
[20:15] <ikonia> nn: are you fdsadsa ?
[20:15] <nn> yeah
[20:16] <ikonia> nn: ok, so are you in the same directory as the "waf" file ?
[20:16] <nn> yeah ive tried running it but it doesnt change anything when i try to ./waf
[20:16] <nn> and yes im in the folder with the binary file or whatever
[20:16] <ikonia> nn: that's not what I asked
[20:16] <ikonia> nn: please run "ls -la waf" and pastebin the output
[20:17] <sven_> hi! i just booted my well working 11.4, 64bit, lvm2-root-on-sda5 system with a system that is basically the same just 32bit and sdb.... how can i access my lvm partitions?
[20:17] <nn> no such file or directory
[20:17] <Simone1> lolz
[20:17] <ikonia> nn: so you're not in the same directory as it
[20:17] <nn> how do i know what the right dir is
[20:17] <tomodachi> sven_: does the decies pop up if you type lvdisplay
[20:18] <ikonia> nn: where did you put it
[20:18] <sven_> tomodachi, nope, just my usbsticks (sdb) devices :/
[20:18] <nn> its in /dream/drobilla-lad
[20:18] <ikonia> nn: then change to that directory and run it
[20:18] <nn> cd?
[20:18] <ikonia> nn: that is "change directory"
[20:20] <nn> alright
[20:20] <sven_> tomodachi, just to mention, my sda still works fine, i can boot it etc. just need to access some data (need 32bit for that)
[20:20] <nn> it says -rwxr-xr-x 1 dream dream 89530 2011-09-26 05:56 waf (in green)
[20:20] <Dalek`> does anyone know how to install Free Rapid Downloaded in Ubuntu 11.04?
[20:21] <nn> do i need to run it from the drobilla folder? cuz i just copy pasted it to the /dream/ folder
[20:21] <ikonia> nn: now try to run it
[20:21] <ikonia> nn: you can run it from where ever you want
[20:21] <skegeek> Is there any reason for a server to have two 512 Swap partitions?
[20:21] <nn> ugh
[20:21] <nn> how do i cd to the /dream/drobilla dir
[20:21] <nn> hmm
[20:21] <ikonia> skegeek: are they on different partitions ?
[20:21] <ikonia> nn: cd /dream/drobilla
[20:22] <nn> i tried that
[20:22] <soreau> nn: You may need to specify the complete path
[20:22] <nn> dream is my home dir
[20:22] <paulus68> nn:  pay attention it's case sensitive
[20:22] <skegeek> They're virtual machine swap images.
[20:22] <ikonia> nn: can you start giving more info, "what did it say when you tried" for example
[20:22] <nn> so i dont know what would come before that
[20:22] <soreau> nn: cd ~/dream/drobilla
[20:23] <soreau> nn: Or cd $HOME/dream/drobilla
[20:23] <paulus68> nn:  Or cd /home/dream/drobilla
[20:23] <nn> k im in the right dir now
[20:23] <nn> it was ~/drobilla
[20:24] <soreau> nn: or /home/username/dream/drobilla
[20:26] <nn> now im trying to configure waf and it keeps saying 'configuration failed'
[20:26] <nn> the commands are in that pastebin
[20:26] <fdsadsa> http://pastebin.com/2Xb9cuBy
[20:26] <ikonia> nn: what options did you pass it
[20:27] <soreau> nn: You may need to install dependencies.. (haven't seen your pastebin)
[20:27] <Simone1> arr wheres the channel for backtrack
[20:27] <jimubao> cd ~/dream
[20:27] <soreau> ! compile | nn
[20:27] <ikonia> skegeek: #backtrack-linux
[20:27] <fdsadsa> ./waf configure --prefix=/usr/local --debug --strict
[20:27] <qin> !bt | Simone1
[20:27] <Simone1> tx
[20:27] <ikonia> soreau: just needs python
[20:27] <jimubao> ! compile
[20:27] <soreau> ikonia: k
[20:27] <ikonia> fdsadsa: just issue "./waf configure"
[20:27] <ikonia> soreau: thats what the docs say, I don't believe it though
[20:27] <soreau> ikonia: Can I see the output?
[20:28] <ikonia> http://pastebin.com/2Xb9cuBy
[20:28] <jman88888> does anybody know how to make the touchpad less screwy with a Macbook Late 2009?
[20:29] <soreau> ok, now I'm confused
[20:29] <fdsadsa> http://pastebin.com/CT3sVjwK
[20:29] <soreau> fdsadsa == nn?
[20:29] <nn> yeah
[20:29] <guntbert> Simone1:  #backtrack-linux
[20:29] <ikonia> nn: you're missing software package pkg-config
[20:29] <ikonia> soreau: and there is the lives, it also needs pkgconfig
[20:29] <genii-around> !backtrack | Simone1
[20:30] <nn> how do i install that
[20:30] <ikonia> "lies"
[20:30] <ikonia> !info pkgconfig
[20:30] <ikonia> !info pkg-config
[20:30] <ikonia> nn: install the package pkg-config
[20:30] <nn> how
[20:30] <ikonia> nn: have you ever used any linux before ?
[20:31] <nn> not until like 2 days ago
[20:31] <skegeek> I am not looking for security,  I'm just not sure why my server needs two 512 Swap images versus only one or just a 1G image.
[20:31] <soreau> ikonia: His configure output says pkg-config is installed..
[20:31] <nn> i just looked in the software center
[20:31] <ikonia> soreau: so it does, well spotted
[20:31] <nn> and yeah its already installed
[20:31] <ikonia> lv2core ?
[20:31] <soreau> ikonia: I'm looking for the other dep and not finding much for lv2core yet
[20:31] <ikonia> soreau: me neither
[20:32] <ikonia> nn: side issue, take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com to get an overview/introduction on how to use ubuntu
[20:32] <soreau> ikonia: Ah, it's very old...
[20:32] <nn> i get most of it.. its just some instructions are kind of over my head
[20:32] <ikonia> soreau: you found it ?
[20:32] <obx> guys what's a better twitter client for ubuntu
[20:32] <soreau> ikonia: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/lv2core
[20:32] <ikonia> nn: you can't say "you get most of it" when you can't change directory.
[20:32] <obx> cause tweetdeck is failing me
[20:32] <ikonia> nn: you need to pickup the basics from https://help.ubuntu.com
[20:33] <obx> did tweetdeck remove the deckly support or something cause i can't do long updates anymore
[20:33] <ikonia> soreau: ok, so not in natty then....great
[20:33] <ikonia> !info lv2core
[20:33] <ikonia> ahhh its there
[20:33] <TrueColors> How would you give a file write permissions? sudo chmod +w /path/to/file ?
[20:34] <ikonia> nn: you need to install the package lv2core
[20:34] <soreau> Ah
[20:34] <ikonia> soreau: good fine
[20:34] <nn> yeah i just did
[20:34] <nn> but it says the same thing when i waf configure
[20:34] <nn> do i need to restart terminal or something
[20:34] <ikonia> nn: how did you install it ?
[20:34] <soreau> ikonia: Were you grepping for 'dev' too? ;)
[20:34] <nn> from the software center
[20:34] <sven_> any hints on the lvm2 thingy? i notice that pvscan does only see the pv on /dev/dm-0, and there does not seem to be a /dev/dm-n device for sda5 - but i dont know how this would be created :/
[20:34] <ikonia> soreau: maybe......
[20:35] <beefman_> hi.  just did upgrade to 11.04 and lost my grub installation...  i got to the grub rescue prompt, found my hd, set it, set the initrd, now am in it, but dunno what to do next.  any advice?
[20:35] <soreau> hm hm hm
[20:35] <ikonia> nn: why do you want this waf ? do you know what it is ?
[20:35] <ikonia> nn: I've just read what it is and I'm concerned it may not be what you're expecting
[20:35] <nn> i have to have it to install an audio suite
[20:36] <soreau> ikonia: Looks like that package doesn't provide any development headers but there's no corresponding -dev package for it
[20:36] <nn> and it requires ./waf to compile python
[20:36] <nn> i believe
[20:36] <ikonia> nn: are you sure ?
[20:36] <ikonia> nn: what audio package
[20:36] <nn> ingen
[20:36] <ejer> beefman_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling_GRUB2
[20:36] <nn> http://drobilla.net/software/ingen/
[20:36] <ikonia> nn: I'd be VERY surprised if it needed waf
[20:36] <soreau> ikonia: I believe waf is an uncommon build system
[20:36] <obx> anybody? rofl
[20:37] <soreau> ikonia: Some packages use it
[20:37] <nn> the only instructions included are ./waf commands
[20:37] <ikonia> soreau: correct,
[20:37] <ikonia> soreau: hence my concern this may not have been what nn what expecting
[20:37] <beefman_> ejer: will a 10.04 cd have boot repair?
[20:37] <beefman_> compatible with 11.04?
[20:38] <soreau> ikonia: Why not? I don't see any packages for drobilla..
[20:38] <ejer> beefman_, don't think so...
[20:38] <nn> i installed the packages with svn
[20:38] <genii-around> !info tweetdeck
[20:38] <genii-around> Hm
[20:38] <ikonia> soreau: based on the basic issues we where seeing, I was concerned that nn wasn't actually expecting this to be a set of tools for building software
[20:38] <nn> but i cant install/compile them w/o waf i dont think
[20:38] <ejer> beefman_, I would grab the new livecd if I were you
[20:38] <ikonia> nn: which packages did you install
[20:38] <beefman_> k
[20:39] <nn> all of them
[20:39] <ikonia> nn: all of what ?
[20:39] <jman88888> does anybody know how to make the touchpad less screwy with a Macbook Late 2009?
[20:39] <soreau> lmao
[20:39] <ikonia> am I missing something ?
[20:39] <nn> http://drobilla.net/software/ingen/ everything listen on the top left of that page
[20:39] <nn> listed*
[20:39] <nn> it did it all auto with svn
[20:39] <ikonia> nn: if you've installed them ? how did you do it without waf ?
[20:39] <ikonia> svn auto built them ?
[20:40] <jman88888> !voice
[20:40] <nn> no it just installed a bunch of script files and stuff
[20:40] <ikonia> nn: ok, so you just downloaded the source code
[20:40] <nn> pretty much i think
[20:40] <jman88888> Can anybody see these messages?
[20:40] <aeon-ltd> jman88888: yes
[20:41] <jman88888> aeon-ltd: thanks
[20:41] <ejer> jman88888, less screwy is not really enough info
[20:41] <sven_> lvm2 thingy is resolved, first had to cryptsetup the device...
[20:41] <ejer> jman88888, check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook5-2/Natty#Trackpad
[20:41] <jman88888> ejer: oh sorry i mean its like sticky seemingly, and if i have 2 fingers on it it doesnt move.
[20:42] <soreau> nn: Those screenshots look nice and all but have you explored other alternatives that are much easier to install such as ardour?
[20:42] <ejer> jman88888, do sudo dmidecode -s system-product-name - so we know what model u have
[20:42] <jman88888> Macbook 6,1
[20:42] <Arsanerit> I have sound through 'oss', but not through 'alsa'; e.g., if I play 'mplayer' just like that, it is silent, but 'mplayer -ao oss' gives sound. Flash @ Firebox has no sound. I can't find the appropiate configuration in "Sound and Video Configuration". In alsamixer nothing of relevance is muted. How do I get my sound in Alsa to work? I've been through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting but I do have sound in some ...
[20:42] <ikonia> nn: is there a file called "config.cache" in that directory ?
[20:42] <Arsanerit> ... circumstances, just not in others...
[20:42] <ikonia> (the waf directory)
[20:42] <nn> yeah i have but this one ive used before
[20:42] <lsv> if there is a bug with NetworkManager in Red Hat Enterprise is that bug also in Ubuntu or is it a different NetworkManager?
[20:43] <ikonia> lsv: same product, different version/dependencies
[20:43] <lsv> this is why I ask --> http://www.hispasec.com/unaaldia/4719  (it is in spanish though)
[20:43] <nn> nope in /drobilla theres folders of all the progs, an install readme, a readme, a waf binary and a wscript
[20:43] <lsv> ikonia: thanks
[20:43] <ikonia> nn: no config.cache though ?
[20:44] <sburwood1> Where do I go for a Wifi (if possible N and, why not N300) solution for my desktop?
[20:45] <nn> nope
[20:45] <genii-around> !hcl | sburwood1
[20:45] <ikonia> nn: one moment
[20:45] <ikonia> soreau: have you actually got an ubuntu box at hand
[20:45] <soreau> ikonia: yes
[20:45] <soreau> a couple
[20:45] <ejer> jman88888, you can check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook6-1/Lucid#Trackpad
[20:45] <nn> what does it mean to check out a directory?
[20:45] <sburwood1> genii-around: Thx.  I'm going to look into that
[20:45] <ikonia> soreau: can you look for me what the lv2core package actually has in it ?
[20:45] <soreau> nn: It's basically downloading a snapshot of the development directory
[20:46] <soreau> ikonia: Sure, it's right here http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/all/lv2core/filelist
[20:46] <ikonia> soreau: bravo
[20:46] <soreau> oh it does have dev stuff...
[20:46] <nn2> brb
[20:46] <soreau> overlooked it
[20:47] <mr_roboto> Alguém sabe algum programa legal para programar php no ubuntu sem ser o eclipse?
[20:47] <monkadelicd> Hello!
[20:47] <ikonia> soreau: 1 header and 1 package config file
[20:47] <soreau> indeed
[20:47] <soreau> so pkg-config should find it
[20:48] <soreau> nn: Does 'echo $PKG_CONFIG_PATH' show anything?
[20:48] <monkadelicd> Has anyone here installed Packet Tracer on 11.04?
[20:48] <nn> wtf i have lv2core installed but i keeps saying not found in the ./waf configure
[20:48] <soreau> nn: What does 'pkg-config --modversion lv2core' say?
[20:49] <nn> 3.0
[20:49] <nn> i guess i need 4.0
[20:49] <soreau> nn: Does /usr/lib/pkgconfig/lv2core.pc exist?
[20:49] <soreau> ah...
[20:49] <monkadelicd> Anyone have experience with Cisco Packet Tracer?
[20:49] <jrib> soreau: i just noticed your last line and have no clue if you have checked this but this sounds like a "i compiled my own pkg-config to /usr/local" problem
[20:49] <monkadelicd> specifically installing?
[20:50] <ejer> pretty doubtful monkadelicd
[20:50] <ikonia> jrib: I really REALLY hope not
[20:50] <nn> how do i get the newest lv2core installed?
[20:50] <soreau> nn: Well you may have to build lv2core yourself too then
[20:50] <soreau> jrib: I don't think this is the case but anything is possible
[20:50] <soreau> nn: What is the output of 'which pkg-config'?
[20:50] <ikonia> nn: please show me the output of "which pkg-config"
[20:50] <soreau> hehe
[20:50] <monkadelicd> ok... I'm not very experienced with Ubuntu or Linux in general but I'm no moron...
[20:51] <ikonia> monkadelicd: no-one is saying you're a mornon
[20:51] <ikonia> moron
[20:51] <monkadelicd> I installed packet tracer from a .bin file and I can't find it anywhere in the installed applications on 11.04
[20:51] <nn> fsda /usr/bin/pkg-config
[20:51] <monkadelicd> where can I look?
[20:51] <ikonia> monkadelicd: it won't be
[20:51] <ikonia> monkadelicd: it won't update the menus as it's a binary file
[20:51] <nn> -fdsa
[20:51] <ikonia> monkadelicd: the documentation should tell you where it installs to
[20:51] <monkadelicd> everything I'
[20:52] <ejer> monkadelicd, you installed it using WINE right
[20:52] <ikonia> nn: ls -la /usr/lib/pkgconfig/lv2core.pc
[20:52] <monkadelicd> I installed it from the terminal
[20:52] <ikonia> monkadelicd: the documentation should tell you where it installs to
[20:52] <monkadelicd> the documentation says I should find it under internet applications but its not there
[20:52] <jrib> monkadelicd: log out and back in
[20:53] <ikonia> I don't think it's going to update the menu
[20:53] <Polah> What's the keyboard shortcut to show all current windows in GNOME? Similar to Super+S to show all workspaces.
[20:53] <jman88888> !lts
[20:53] <monkadelicd> there's no other way to refresh the menu?
[20:53] <ejer> monkadelicd, can you point to where you got the software from?
[20:53] <monkadelicd> that's fine for me...just wondering if that's the only way
[20:54] <jrib> monkadelicd: you're using unity?
[20:54] <monkadelicd> I got it from the Cisco Netacad...no download link...have to use login
[20:54] <monkadelicd> jrib: yes
[20:54] <Axlin|MB> Polah: Super+W
[20:54] <jrib> monkadelicd: then I have no clue :)
[20:54] <RobbieCrash> I have a promise 'raid' card that I'm using as an additional SATA controller, the drives which are attached to it are part of a ZFS pool. At reboot, these devices are normally initialized as /dev/sd[e-h]. However, sometimes they're initialized before the disks attached directly to my motherboard, which causes the ZFS pool to think that they've failed, and it then fails to mount the pool. How
[20:54] <RobbieCrash> can I make sure that the devices are always initialized in the same order at boot?
[20:54] <Polah> Axlin|MB: That's the one, thank you.
[20:54] <nn> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 194 (date) (time) /usr/lub/pkgconfig/lv2core.pc
[20:54] <ubuntutest> hoe kan ik thunderbrid 7 nl installeren
[20:55] <soreau> nn: So remove the lv2core package and get the source instead with this command: svn co http://lv2plug.in/repo/trunk
[20:55] <ubuntutest> how to install thunderbird 7
[20:55] <ejer> !nl
[20:55] <monkadelicd> jrib: thanks! I'll try to log out and back in
[20:55] <nn> what will having the source allow me to do?
[20:56] <ejer> RobbieCrash, something like this http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-assign-static-names-to-scsi-devices.html but make sure the udev rules you use are valid (old article)
[20:56] <soreau> nn: If you need lv2core, you need to build it yourself since natty only has 3.0 packaged
[20:56] <jman88888> Is it better to install 10.4 or 10.10 beta if i plan on going to 10.10 when it releases?
[20:56] <soreau> nn: If you need lv2core 4.0, that is
[20:56] <ikonia> jman88888: 10.10 is already released
[20:56] <ikonia> jman88888: it's been out almost a year
[20:57] <jman88888> err 11.10
[20:57] <jman88888> and 11.4
[20:57] <ikonia> jman88888: always use stable versions
[20:57] <jman88888> Cool thanks
[20:57] <soreau> nn: After checking out the source with that svn command, use this to build it: cd trunk; python2 ./waf configure --prefix=/usr --mandir=/usr/share/man && python2 waf
[20:58] <nn> alright its downloaded with svn now what?
[20:58] <Arsanerit> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting  ought to link to  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[20:59] <nn> ugh i still need waf to install lv2
[20:59] <soreau> nn: svn co <URL> means 'use subversion to checkout this repository'
[20:59] <nn> wtffffffffffffff that was the whole problem with ./waf
[20:59] <nn> that i need lv2 to get waf to work
[20:59] <ejer> nn, what software are you trying to install exactly from http://drobilla.net/
[20:59] <ikonia> nn: tone down the language pplease.
[20:59] <nn> sorry
[21:00] <nn> all of it
[21:00] <jrib> nn: now you know why package managers exist :)
[21:00] <nn> yeah for retards like em
[21:00] <nn> me
[21:00] <soreau> nn: waf should be in the trunk directory you just checked out. Try 'ls' command to see the contents of a directory
[21:00] <ejer> nn, I think you probably would do better using more supported software
[21:00] <ejer> nn, ardour can do all this
[21:00] <jrib> nn: no, for everyone
[21:01] <soreau> ejer: I suggested this already
[21:01] <ejer> nn, this is awesome http://ubuntustudio.org/
[21:01] <nn> hmm i just configured lv2 from the trunk dir and everything went smoothly
[21:01] <Onryo> Where are the sha256sum (md5 whatever) for the server iso of Ubuntu? Need to verify the images integrity after download.
[21:02] <Pici> !hashes | Onryo
[21:02] <Onryo> ubottu, thx
[21:02] <RobbieCrash> ejer thanks!
[21:02] <soreau> nn: After you get it installed, check which version is reported by the output of 'pkg-config --modversion lv2core'
[21:02] <soreau> nn: Then run the other thing you were trying to configure, if it reports 4.0
[21:03] <nn> ok i configured and built lv2 smoothly but when i try to install it gives me a bunch of errors
[21:03] <Riddick> hi...
[21:04] <soreau> nn: Use sudo for the last command.. if they're permissions errors
[21:04] <nn> how do i do that? whats the whole command?
[21:04] <soreau> ! who | nn
[21:05] <nn> and i think theyre just dir errors
[21:05] <TRACY> Hi ,is there any linux distros which allow to connect to wireless with channel 13 , because UBUNTU allows just from 1-11 ?
[21:05] <ikonia> TRACY: we only support ubuntu here
[21:05] <soreau> nn: sudo python2 waf
[21:05] <nn> python2 command not found
[21:06] <soreau> nn: Does 'which python2' show anything?
[21:06] <Pici> soreau: that should be python2.5 or 2.6 or 2.whatever, or just python.
[21:06] <soreau> Pici: I'm getting there ;)
[21:06] <sunice> Danish_: do you have a static ip? that nats to your internal address?
[21:07] <RCAJDT> I'm trying to use the Serato Audio Interface (USB) with mixx or xwax. It shows up in alsa mixer, and it's listed under sound cards, but neither mixxx nor xwax recognize hw1
[21:07] <nn> and no python2 shows nothing
[21:07] <soreau> nn: Well you need to start over then and use python instead of python2
[21:07] <soreau> nn: python ./waf configure --prefix=/usr --mandir=/usr/share/man && python waf
[21:08] <monkadelicd> exit
[21:09] <nn> alright just ran that command smoothly now what
[21:09] <soreau> nn: After you get it installed, check which version is reported by the output of 'pkg-config --modversion lv2core'
[21:09] <soreau> ! who | nn
[21:09] <soreau> ubottu: ping
[21:10] <soreau> ! who | nn
[21:10] <nn> i cant install it
[21:10] <nn> im gonna pastebin the ./waf install output
[21:11] <soreau> nn: You see how I prefix my messages to you with 'nn:'? This is so your irc client highlights you.
[21:11] <soreau> Look what happens when I don't use your nick
[21:12] <soreau> nn: It's good practice in a larger channel such as this to prefix your messages with the nick of the person you're talking to so they get highlighted too
[21:12] <soreau> nn: You can use 'sor<tab>' to auto complete my nick, for example
[21:12] <nn> soreau http://pastebin.com/jGMnJzLK
[21:13] <soreau> How very uninformative
[21:13] <nn> yeah im lost
[21:14] <sburwood1> I've another question : I'm living in Belgium, but want - actually NEED - a way to get a desktop to do Wifi N.  What would anyone suggest for a solution ... PCI or PCIE or USB that would be garanteed to work?  Also, what is the best, N, N150 or N300?
[21:14] <soreau> nn: And to be honest, you're really on your own when it comes to building software. We only support official ubuntu packages here
[21:14] <soreau> ! compile | nn
[21:14] <soreau> nn: You can also ask in other channels such as ##linux
[21:14] <edwardpatch> hi
[21:14]  * miadbahrami how too add ppk in ubuntu
[21:14] <soreau> miadbahrami: ppk?
[21:15]  * miadbahrami ppk in vpn
[21:15] <nn> could it be because i already have an older version of lv2 installed?
[21:15] <vn> hi, when I edit crontab -e, is it supposed to reload automatically in order to see what new tasks it has or do I need to do something?
[21:15] <soreau> nn: Could be anything.
[21:15] <Pici> vn: What do you mean by 'reload automatically?'  It just loads up what the current user's crontab looks like.
[21:16] <soreau> nn: When you compile source code, you're about two steps away from development, in which case you have to figure a lot out on your own
[21:16] <varikonniemi> hello. Is it a known bug that the recycle bing thinks it is full, even though it is empty?
[21:16]  * miadbahrami I am from Iran and the new Linux can help me please
[21:16] <jrib> varikonniemi: maybe the partition it is on is full?
[21:16] <nn> sweet i got it
[21:17] <kingfarvito> does anyone here use xournal?
[21:17] <soreau> miadbahrami: For one, you don't need to use /me when typing messages
[21:17] <sburwood1> miadbahrami: Do you have a specific question?
[21:17] <miadbahrami> soreau: how to add ppk vpn in ubuntu
[21:17] <soreau> kingfarvito: nope
[21:17] <nn> how do i run lv2config?
[21:17] <jrib> kingfarvito: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[21:17] <soreau> ! anyone | kingfarvito
[21:17] <edwardpatch> hey
[21:17] <edwardpatch> how are
[21:17] <miadbahrami> soreau: ok
[21:17] <kingfarvito> Is there a way to add searchable tags in xournal?
[21:18] <lsv> miadbahrami: search telecomix or go to telecomix.org
[21:18] <edwardpatch> hello no one talks any more :(
[21:18] <Pici> miadbahrami: What is 'ppk'?
[21:18] <Pici> edwardpatch: This channel is for support only.  If you want to chat, theres #ubuntu-offtopic.
[21:19] <nn> ugh i ./waf install the updated lv2 but the modversion still shows 3.0
[21:20] <soreau> nn: try removing lv2core package first?
[21:20] <nn> ok
[21:21] <kingfarvito> well then, lets give this a shot, is there a way to make text in xournal searchable?
[21:22] <StryKaizer> How can I save my window positions for each boot? (using gnome, no unity)
[21:23] <soreau> StryKaizer: About the best thing you can do is set windows to open in the same place each time
[21:24] <edwardpatch> i love fax
[21:24] <soreau> edwardpatch: What does this have to do with ubuntu?
[21:25] <StryKaizer> soreau, is this by rightclicking the titlebar and clicking "Always on visible workspace", or is there another setting for that?
[21:25] <StryKaizer> soreau, nvm, its defenitly somethign else :)
[21:25] <zilly> What's the easiest way to disable PulseAudio?
[21:25] <soreau> StryKaizer: If you use compiz, you can set fixed positions in ccsm>Place Windows plugin
[21:25] <nn52> Hello! I've DVD Video ( 4,2gb) i want compress to AVI (Xvid od DivX) to abount 990mb. How to? or any gui program?.
[21:25] <soreau> zilly: service pulseaudio stop?
[21:26] <zilly> soreau, thanks!
[21:26] <RobbieCrash> nn52 VLC will do it
[21:26] <nn52> VCL Player?
[21:26] <nn> hmm
[21:26] <soreau> zilly: That will only stop it, to disable it completely you probably want to uninstall it
[21:26] <StryKaizer> soreau, thx, installing ccsm now
[21:26] <nn52> RobbieCrash: VLC Plater?
[21:27] <nn52> yer*
[21:27] <zilly> soreau,  do you know if gpac installs PulseAudio?  My sound was working fine and then I installed gpac and now it doesn't work at all.  I think this is the reason why, but I'm not sure.
[21:27] <RobbieCrash> nn52, yes: http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?t=34459#p132397
[21:28] <soreau> zilly: pulseaudio is installed by default so I doubt that'd be it..
[21:28] <nn> ok i went through all the ./waf installation for lv2 but it says lv2core not found on the modversion
[21:28] <RobbieCrash> nn52 The page is talking about Mac and PC, but it's essentially the same, just substitute Ubuntu paths
[21:28] <zilly> soreau, oh, darn.  Thanks.
[21:28] <soreau> zilly: Try checking alsamixer thoroughly. Arrow keys to navigate, 'm' to (un)mute channels and F6 to switch devices
[21:29] <zilly> soreau, how would I tell if my sound driver is no longer working?
[21:30] <soreau> zilly: The driver wont just quit working if it did in the past.. check the output of 'lsmod|grep snd' to see the audio modules (drivers) loaded
[21:31] <soreau> zilly: Try 'aplay -l' to list sound devices detected
[21:31] <emet> hi
[21:31] <NotJimCarrey> isn't there a way to make a usb flash drive appear to be an external hard drive?
[21:31] <soreau> zilly: and scrutinize settings in alsamixer
[21:31] <Euvius> Hello. Question:  I have domains pointing to an Ubuntu server.  My domains are regged at GoDaddy.   I want to make it so all mail (catch all) for my domains goes to my Gmail..   DOes anyone know what I should do
[21:32] <Euvius> Oh yeah, and my DNS is at he.net
[21:33] <zilly> soraeu, well, the default in alsamixer has s/pdif and it's set at 00 with no slider.  The other one is my sound card and has the right settings (I think).
[21:33] <soreau> Euvius: Forward the emial?
[21:34] <Euvius> soreau , yes , to my Gmail
[21:34] <diki> what does it mean when i boot my PC but the grub loads instead of the OS as before?
[21:34] <tacomaster> ok sometimes my nm-applet from network manager looks alittle funny in kde because i hate wicd and i have figured out that doing a "sudo killall nm-applet" then "nm-applet" will fix the issue and am trying to make a bash script but when it gets to the "nm-applet" command i have a konsole window that i cant close is there any way to make nm-applet start in the script with out having the terminal open?
[21:34] <soreau> Euvius: Forward the emial.
[21:34] <Euvius> soreau yes, I dont know how
[21:34] <soreau> Euvius: That is really beyond the scope of this channel since your servers email is not directly related to ubuntu
[21:35] <Euvius> ok, thanks
[21:35] <soreau> tacomaster: killall nm-applet && nm-applet &
[21:37] <Ryladine> I'm trying to install my ATI drivers but it's failing to generate the installer package, it's reporting error 127 but I can't seem to find what that means. (I've never used ubuntu before and my experience with linux is extemely limited.) What does that error mean, and whats the best way to correct it? I'm running the .run file with the sh command.
[21:37] <tacomaster> soreau, ty so much do you know any good guides to learn bash better?
[21:38] <soreau> tacomaster: There's a plethora on the web. There's also #bash on this network
[21:38] <nn52> VLC not working :P
[21:38] <nn52> mit mean , converting not working
[21:38] <Garret_Thorne> Hi, folks!
[21:38] <nmvictor> I never knew KDE looks great until i tried it tonight. Wow, This is what Im sticking with, Someone tell me how I can remove all gnome apps coz I installed KDE ontop of Gnome based ubuntu and not via kubuntu.
[21:39] <soreau> Ryladine: Is there any reason you're trying the .run file and not using jockey-gtk (or just using the default radeon drivers that are installed and working by default)?
[21:39] <soreau> nmvictor: Probably remove gnome-desktop and apt-get autoremove
[21:40] <Ryladine> I've tried running minecraft and was getting an openGL error, so I went to ATI's site for drivers and thats what it gave me.
[21:40] <sburwood1> What is the best Wifi N accessory?  USB or PCI, matters not.  Do I need an antenna seperately purchased?
[21:40] <soreau> Ryladine: What is the output of 'glxinfo|grep renderer'? (after installing mesa-utils package)
[21:41] <kasi> is there a way to switch from internal audio to USB audio from the command line interface?
[21:41] <Ryladine> Like I said I've never used ubuntu so give me a minute to see if I can find how to install "mesa-utils"
[21:41] <nmvictor> Wait, why does KDE remind me of windows?
[21:41] <soreau> sburwood1: PCI cards are typically always better. You can use the antenna that comes with the card or purchase one separately if you really need one
[21:41] <yoseph> hi, does anyone know how i can 'install'  gspca_kinect on my machine?  I have kinect working with glview, but i want it to work as a normal webcam so I can use motion with it.  I'm completely lost,  I thought I downloaded the drivers i need (i.e. gspca_kinect)  but I have no clue how to install it?  (just a file called kinect.c)
[21:41] <virgil> Hi.
[21:41] <virgil> I'm kinda new here.
[21:41] <virgil> Where do I go for tech support?
[21:41] <soreau> Ryladine: sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[21:41] <snow_ru> hi
[21:42] <soreau> virgil: Right here. Just ask your question :)
[21:42] <virgil> Okay. I'm a little bit desperate.
[21:42] <snow_ru> how to install boost 1.4.2.0 in ubuntu ?
[21:42] <anonissimus> I fail to record my audio output to and mp3 file, I tried parsing arecord to lame but it result is a file with barely audible audio and a huge white noise component
[21:42] <snow_ru> apt-get install always install the latest version
[21:42] <virgil> I've been trying to get Ubuntu (any distribution) to work with my laptop for a while now.
[21:42] <tacomaster> virgil, what laptop is it?
[21:42] <virgil> 11.04 and 11.10 beta 2 (the one I'm using right now) have both resulted in screen tearing on horizontal movement.
[21:43] <virgil> MSI A6000
[21:43] <soreau> snow_ru: install libboost-dev
[21:43] <virgil> Lemme check the model number right quick...
[21:43] <virgil> MS-1683
[21:43] <soreau> virgil: What is the output of 'lspci|grep VGA'?
[21:43] <sburwood1> soreau: Ok, found a PCI card that says it is supported Linux (I suppose that means every version, or at least Ubuntu), a DFE 530TX.  The question that I have for that card is whether or not I need to buy an antenna and whether it is a "draft N"  a N, a N150 or a N300 adapter
[21:43] <BarkingFish> anonissimus, What are you using to record your audio?
[21:43] <soreau> virgil: Screen tearing is almost always a graphics driver issue..
[21:43] <sunice> virgil: if you have an ubuntu question ask away
[21:43] <anonissimus> BarkingFish: arecord -f cd -t raw | lame -x -r – out.mp3
[21:43] <virgil> sudo: lscpi: command not found
[21:44] <anonissimus> this is what I do
[21:44] <nishttal2> hi all.. is there a forum for installing ubuntu on MacBook pro?
[21:44] <virgil> Am I in the wrong place for graphics driver issues?
[21:44] <soreau> sburwood1: As I said, most cards some with an antenna already included
[21:44] <BarkingFish> anonissimus, Have you actually tried using a GUI program, like audacity?
[21:44] <snow_ru> soreau, how to know the version of the installed libboost in the local machine?
[21:44] <soreau> virgil: lspci|grep VGA
[21:44] <tacomaster> virgil, ok you have a nvidia geforce 8200M G
[21:44] <anonissimus> BarkingFish: yes same results
[21:44] <soreau> virgil: you typoed
[21:44] <anonissimus> some of the inputs carry no noise others noise + faint audio part
[21:44] <Ryladine> When I run glxinfo|grep it outputs usage information, and some information about failed requests
[21:44] <virgil> oops.
[21:44] <virgil> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C79 [GeForce 9200M G] (rev b1)
[21:44] <tacomaster> virgil, you need to go to terminal and type jockey-gtk and install nvidia drivers
[21:45] <soreau> tacomaster: close, but no cigar ;)
[21:45] <BarkingFish> anonissimus, I do a shedload of audio editing for other organisations, including Wikipedia.  Can you upload the audio somewhere on the net and let me hear what your audio is like please?
[21:45] <soreau> virgil: Indeed, use jockey-gtk to install your drivers
[21:45] <nishttal2> anyone?
[21:45] <virgil> I have, all versions that were available in 11.04 and 11.10.
[21:45] <anonissimus> BarkingFish: shure
[21:45] <virgil> And the proprietary drivers.
[21:45] <nishttal2>  is there a forum for installing ubuntu on MacBook pro?
[21:45] <virgil> Used nvidia-xconfig each time.
[21:45] <BarkingFish> thank you. I might be able to help you if I can figure out what is going wrong for you, anonissimus
[21:46] <anonissimus> just a min
[21:46] <virgil> The closest I've gotten is very mild tearing on VLC videos, and mild-to-moderate tearing in flash videos.
[21:46] <anonissimus> need to rerecord
[21:46] <soreau> virgil: You actually need to install the driver with jockey-gtk
[21:46] <nishttal2> i was able to install ubuntu on macbook pro but there is no sound
[21:46] <tacomaster> soreau, what did i say wrong?
[21:46] <virgil> I'm confused.
 virgil, ok you have a nvidia geforce 8200M G (but the output of lspci says) <virgil> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C79 [GeForce 9200M G] (rev b1)
[21:47] <virgil> Do you mean install the proprietary drivers with jockey-gtk?
[21:47] <Ryladine> Did you see my response to your questions?
[21:47] <soreau> virgil: yes
[21:47] <snow_ru> ?
[21:47] <virgil> How do I do that?
[21:47] <soreau> virgil: Type this in your terminal: gksu jockey-gtk
[21:47] <tacomaster> soreau, ooo i was just telling him with the model he gave me oops :P
[21:48] <soreau> tacomaster: Yea, 'lspci|grep VGA' will tell you for sure what card(s)
[21:48] <soreau> tacomaster: specs aren't always reliably accurate
[21:48] <virgil> I see two options, though both are different from the four options I had when I first installed 11.10
[21:48] <soreau> virgil: Install the newest one
[21:49] <virgil> Ummm... I can't tell which one's newest.
[21:49] <soreau> virgil: The one with the latest version number..
[21:49] <tacomaster> virgil, the one that says recomended
[21:49] <virgil> They're both labeled as 'NVIDIA binary xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library'
[21:49] <virgil> I don't see a version number or 'recommended'.
[21:49] <anonissimus> BarkingFish: pmed it
[21:50] <virgil> And yeah, I know that lspci sometimes says that I have a Geforce 9200M G card.
[21:50] <soreau> virgil: Anyway, after installing the driver and rebooting, install compizconfig-settings-manager and enable Sync to Vblank in ccsm>General>OpenGL and also enable vsync in nvidia-settings
[21:51] <soreau> virgil: It always says that..
[21:51] <virgil> Already did that.
[21:51] <htlm> nishttal2 I need more details ,so what version is it
[21:51] <soreau> lspci isn't wishy washy, it gets the info from the hardware
[21:51] <fardad_> Hi, I just got a 10.4 installation disk from a friend to install ubuntu as second OS on my PC and it is asking me to login!!! do I have the right disk?
[21:51] <virgil> But I've gotten a response saying 8200m G and 9200m G at different times.
[21:51] <soreau> virgil: You already enabled vblank sync in *both* ccsm *and* nvidia-settings?
[21:51] <WaltherFI> What are the newest minimum requirements for Ubuntu?
[21:52] <WaltherFI> In terms of ram and cpu
[21:52] <virgil> Technically, I don't think there IS a 9200m G card. Just 9200m GS.
[21:52] <tacomaster> virgil, if "lspci | grep VGA" says 9200 then thats right
[21:52] <htlm> fardad_ say again?  ...
[21:52] <Ryladine> When I run glxinfo|grep it outputs usage information, and some information about failed requests
[21:52] <soreau> Ryladine: You did it wrong
[21:52] <soreau> Ryladine: glxinfo|grep renderer
[21:52] <Ryladine> Ah, didn't see the last bit of the command
[21:53] <fardad_> htlm: thaks for responding, I got and installation disk and booted my computer with it to install ubuntu, but it is askin me to login with a userid and password!
[21:53] <virgil> It doesn't seem like I've done it with this install yet.
[21:53] <virgil> The ccsm thingy.
[21:53] <virgil> Though I did that in 11.04, and it didn't seem to solve anything.
[21:53] <nishttal2> htlm.. i am running "Linux  2.6.35-30-generic #56-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jul 11 20:01:08 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:53] <soreau> virgil: Well nvidia sucks. Go get a radeon
[21:54] <fardad_> htlm: do I have the right disk? is this usual?
[21:54] <Ryladine> Even when I add renderer to the end of it, it still outputs the same thing
[21:54] <CT1> Hi.  My internet is down for the next 10days.  I've got a neighbours wifi key.  Can I connect my desktop(s)  (wired) to use my laptops wifi? Any links much appreciated.
[21:54] <soreau> Ryladine: which is?
[21:54] <Odaym> do I have udev on 10.04? or am I on hald?
[21:54] <soreau> Ryladine: Use pastebin.com for more than a few lines
[21:54] <soreau> ! who | Ryladine
[21:54] <nishttal2> htlm, and hardware is MacBook Pro 4,1
[21:54] <Ryladine> bad request, and a couple of opcodes about a failed request, and some serial numbers
[21:54] <Odaym> udev it seems, from doing "ls /etc/init.d/ | grep hald"
[21:55] <Odaym> I mean, udev
[21:55] <jrib> Odaym: probably both
[21:55] <WaltherFI> What are the minimum requirements for a new Ubuntu install nowadays, in terms of ram and cpu?
[21:55] <soreau> CT1: Just share the connection with network settings gui
[21:55] <soreau> CT1: And get a crossover cable if you don't have a router
[21:55] <virgil> Right... So, only solution is to get a different laptop?
[21:55] <Odaym> WaltherFI, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29#System_requirements
[21:56] <nishttal2> htlm, are you still around?
[21:56] <WaltherFI> Odaym: are those up to date?
[21:56] <virgil> Is there anyone/any room I can go to for help with this issue?
[21:56] <soreau> ! who | Ryladine
[21:56] <Odaym> check, WaltherFI; I linked you
[21:56] <virgil> I mean, I got the screen tearing to stop in 10.04, but then my wireless card wouldn't work.
[21:56] <soreau> Ryladine: I have trouble seeing your messages if you don't use my nick
[21:56] <Ryladine> soreau: bad request, and a couple of opcodes about a failed request, and some serial numbers
[21:56] <CT1> soreau: Wow! no config files? no command line, that simple?  Thankyou!
[21:56] <soreau> Ryladine: So you've already successfully broke the radeon driver by trying to install fglrx
[21:57] <abjjdks832> can someone tell me why my computer keeps freezing all the time?
[21:57] <virgil> Mix that with taking several months to get feedback on the forums, and my experience with linux hasn't been too pleasant.
[21:57] <soreau> CT1: Yep, it's easy
[21:57] <SIFTU> abjjdks832: what computer brand/model?
[21:57] <Ryladine> soreau: from what I can tell it's not even sucessfully managed to finish generating the package to install it atall... Fff I'll just reinstall the OS I suppose...
[21:58] <abjjdks832> SIFTU: IBM T60
[21:58] <soreau> Ryladine: 1) Run the uninstall script(s) in /usr/share/ati/ 2) Remove fglrx using jockey-gtk 3) Remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf if it exists 4) Reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx and -dri packages 5) Reboot
[21:58] <soreau> Ryladine: 6) Show the output of 'glxinfo|grep renderer'
[21:58] <SIFTU> abjjdks832: hmm so an older one
[21:58] <htlm> nishttal2 yes im lookin about ...
[21:59] <nishttal2> htlm, ok
[21:59] <abjjdks832> I'd really appreciate some explanation or how to diagnose this, because I'm sick of it
[21:59] <abjjdks832> about to go on an anti ubuntu campaign and never use it again, it's ridiculous
[21:59] <abjjdks832> I visit a web page, whole computer freezes
[21:59] <abjjdks832> since when does a userspace process run away and take down teh whole system in linux?
[21:59] <soreau> abjjdks832: Just calm down..
[22:00] <virgil> Yeah. Still getting screen tearing when I try to play this video- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRe9ykSfXyQ
[22:00] <soreau> abjjdks832: A system freeze is almost always a problem with a kernel driver module.. most commonly, graphics or wifi
[22:00] <virgil> Also, blip.tv movies seem very choppy.
[22:00] <soreau> abjjdks832: Can you pastebin the output of 'lspci && lsusb && lsmod'?
[22:00] <soreau> abjjdks832: to pastebin.com
[22:00] <SIFTU> abjjdks832: and you have run memtest for a few hours?
[22:00] <htlm> Sorry yall im helping im still here
[22:01] <soreau> abjjdks832: and yes, you should run memtest overnight and see if it reports any errors
[22:01] <soreau> faulty memory can cause all kinds of strange issues
[22:01] <abjjdks832> uhm
[22:02] <fardad_> htlm: thaks for responding, I got and installation disk and booted my computer with it to install ubuntu, but it is askin me to login with a userid and password!
[22:02] <fardad_> htlm: do I have the right disk? is this usual?
[22:02] <abjjdks832> ...
[22:02] <abjjdks832> why do those programs not print to stdout?  I tried to do all of it and pipe through pastebinit and only lsmod shows up
[22:02] <htlm> abjjdks832  whats you freaking out for ?
[22:03] <soreau> abjjdks832: Because they're actually three separate programs
[22:03] <abjjdks832> soreau: I know that, thanks.
[22:03] <soreau> abjjdks832: Then why did you ask..
[22:03] <abjjdks832> I guess you can't foo && bar | foobar
[22:03] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all.  Can anyone help me get rid of unity and the launcher, without losing compiz?
[22:03] <Baribal> Hi. I want to make a short movie about how to use git with a lot of animated diagrams. What program would you recommend to make/render those animations? (2D strongly preferred, I'd really rather not learn Blender for this.)
[22:04] <soreau> ! classic | JokesOnYou77
[22:04] <abjjdks832> anyway, this should be it:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/698761/
[22:05] <JokesOnYou77> soreau: When I go back to Classic, I loose my desktop cube and other compiz effects, or at least I can't figure out how to make them work
[22:05] <Promille> Any idea when FireFox 7.0 will be available in Synaptic?
[22:05] <soreau> abjjdks832: Have you tried unplugging all usb devices except keyboard and mouse?
[22:05] <abjjdks832> JokesOnYou77: just a guess, but what about alt-F2, and 'compiz --replace' ?
[22:06] <soreau> abjjdks832: That wont work right in a unity session
[22:06] <abjjdks832> soreau: he said he's in classic.
[22:06] <Palace_Chan> any way to listen to a socket on the commandline?
[22:06] <soreau> JokesOnYou77: Go to classic gnome and I will help you in #compiz
[22:06] <nishttal2> htlm, microphone seems to be working as in sound preferences I see the bar moving when there is any noise
[22:06] <abjjdks832> soreau: no, why would I do that?  I don't have any usb devices besides keyboard and mouse
[22:06] <soreau> abjjdks832: You're not paying attention
[22:06] <groktar> i'm trying to save the current date to a variable in bash.   current_date=date +"%Y%m%d" is throwing an error.  anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
[22:06] <abjjdks832> oh, I have a mcu programmer plugged in
[22:06] <soreau> abjjdks832: So your fingerprint reader is built-in?
[22:06] <abjjdks832> soreau: yes
[22:07] <soreau> abjjdks832: What about Texas Instruments, Inc. eZ430 Development Tool ?
[22:07] <JokesOnYou77> soreau: Thanks, I'll meet you there in a minute
[22:07] <abjjdks832> that's a mcu programmer
[22:07] <nishttal2> htlm, i also see the speaker icon in the tray which usually means the sound card is installed.. i just dont hear anything :(
[22:07] <deutscher83> Hey guys I have a question about XFCE Ubuntu. I posted a thread on forum so you can read it there and reply back here or there http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1851667
[22:07] <nishttal2> htlm, volume is at max
[22:07] <soreau> abjjdks832: And it's built -in?
[22:07] <abjjdks832> no, it's usb
[22:08] <soreau> What the hell is wrong with you then?
[22:08] <abjjdks832> excuse me?
 abjjdks832: Have you tried unplugging all usb devices except keyboard and mouse?
 soreau: no, why would I do that?  I don't have any usb devices besides keyboard and mouse
[22:08] <abjjdks832> I said after that that I had an mcu programmer plugged in
 abjjdks832: And it's built -in?
 no, it's usb
[22:08] <htlm> nishttal2  I pm u
[22:09] <soreau> ! who | abjjdks832
[22:09] <abjjdks832> ...
[22:09] <abjjdks832> anyway, don't think it has anything to do with anything
[22:09] <soreau> abjjdks832: Then get lost
[22:09] <abjjdks832> system is plenty unstable without it plugged in
[22:09] <abjjdks832> !coc | soreau
[22:09] <soreau> go on an anti-ubuntu rant, see if anyone cares
[22:10] <soreau> abjjdks832: You can leave
[22:10] <abjjdks832> the usb device has nothing to do with it.  did you have any other great ideas?
[22:10] <soreau> Yes, not talking to idiots anymore
[22:11] <abjjdks832> excuse me?
[22:11] <SIFTU> abjjdks832: how do you know it has nothing to do with it?
[22:11] <Baribal> soreau, abjjdks832, PLEASE just /ignore each other.
[22:11] <soreau> Baribal: done.
[22:11] <abjjdks832> because the system is similarly unstable when it's not plugged in
[22:11] <JokesOnYou77> to all concerned, compiz --replace worked!  Thanks you all!! :)
[22:11] <SIFTU> abjjdks832: ok
[22:11] <abjjdks832> What sort of special person is soreau that he gets to call people idiots without being banned?
[22:12] <soreau> Baribal: Please get him off my back
[22:12] <abjjdks832> JokesOnYou77: just like I said it would eh?
[22:12] <SIFTU> abjjdks832: have you checked you kernel logs after the freezes?
[22:12] <rubyr41n> is yum the best way to install software packages?
[22:12] <Baribal> soreau, just /ignore him and it's done...
[22:12] <JokesOnYou77> abjjdks832: yep :)
[22:12] <abjjdks832> SIFTU: no, how do I do that?
[22:12] <Gentoo64> rubyr41n, on ubuntu?
[22:13] <rubyr41n> yes
[22:13] <Pelo> rubyr41n,  yum is the prefered package manager for redhat,  this isubuntu , we use apt
[22:13] <SIFTU> abjjdks832: /var/log/messages & /var/log/kernel.log
[22:13] <abjjdks832> messages: No such file or directory
[22:14] <rubyr41n> Pelo, thank you
[22:14] <SIFTU> abjjdks832: or i think they renamed it.. /var/log/syslog
[22:14] <abjjdks832> I have a 'kern.log' ..
[22:15] <SIFTU> abjjdks832: ok good, that ones you can check.. you should also have a syslog
[22:15] <JamesMiddendorff> hello how much space does the netbook remix use on a hard drive?
[22:15] <Gentoo64> JamesMiddendorff, i think thats merged into standard ubuntu
[22:15] <h00k> JamesMiddendorff: netbook remix has been merged into Ubuntu. They use the same interface now.
[22:16] <abjjdks832> syslog:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/698767/   kern.log:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/698768/
[22:16] <NaikInsaan> is it possible to remote desktop into a machine running windows 7?
[22:16] <JamesMiddendorff> h00k, Gentoo64, so if I have a 2gb hard drive it wont install on it then right?
[22:17] <Gentoo64> doubt it
[22:17] <Gentoo64> 2gb is low
[22:17] <h00k> JamesMiddendorff: I think it fully installs to more than 2gb, yeah.
[22:17] <Gentoo64> prob need about 6gb for ubuntu
[22:17] <h00k> !requirements | JamesMiddendorff
[22:17] <abjjdks832> NaikInsaan: yes, it's under apps > internet.  or if you are using unity open menu type 'terminal'
[22:18] <abjjdks832> SIFTU:  18:17:43 up 40 min,  anything before that would be when it last froze
[22:18] <SIFTU> abjjdks832: well there is something of note in there
[22:19] <abjjdks832> SIFTU: praise the FSM .. please share
[22:19] <SIFTU> abjjdks832: well not sure if it's normal but see all the wifi errors in kern.log
[22:20] <Promille> I remember there was a script for fetching the _real_ url's to podcasts in iTunes. It was a perl script, but I cant find it anymore? Anyone wanna help a poor fellow :) ?
[22:20] <Tekin_> Hi
[22:20] <SIFTU> abjjdks832: with the iwl3945 driver
[22:20] <Tekin_> First off - Ubuntu's behavior of resetting the MOTD after an update, is just annoying.
[22:21] <Tekin_> I replaced my backup update-motd.d files, removed old motd files, and still I can't get any MOTD
[22:21] <Tekin_> can someone help me out getting my MOTD updating again?
[22:21] <deadpool> how can I disable my touchpad in ubuntu
[22:21] <histo> Tekin_: have you searched for bugs
[22:21] <Tekin_> histo: yes
[22:21] <abjjdks832> it's not just /etc/motd ?
[22:21] <abjjdks832> Ubuntu really likes to break standard things :/
[22:21] <Tekin_> unfortunately
[22:22] <Tekin_> it's in update-motd.d
[22:22] <histo> That's why I no longer use ubuntu
[22:22] <BarkingFish> Guys - I need to handover to someone with Gnome experience - I've listened to the problems anonissimus has with his sound, and i suspect he doesn't have his sound setup properly for audio capture.
[22:23] <abjjdks832> BarkingFish: the guys in #ALSA might be able to help
[22:23] <BarkingFish> Unfortunately, since I'm not a gnomer, I have no idea how to set the sound up and do all the volume levels and so on, so if someone would be kind enough to take anonissimus through sound setup, switching on his capture and stuff, that'd be great.
[22:23] <conntrack-> haha anonissimus
[22:24] <NaikInsaan> don't have terminal but would like to remote desktop into a machine running windows
[22:24] <Tekin_> so there's no way I can get MOTD working again?
[22:24] <BarkingFish> conntrack-, that's not particularly helpful. If you've nothing to say that can assist, kindly take it to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[22:24] <Tekin_> it used to work?
[22:24] <BarkingFish> We help here, we don't laugh at people :)
[22:24] <conntrack-> Sorry the name is funny
[22:24] <deadpool> I can't seem to disable touchpad
[22:24] <deadpool> how can I do it
[22:25] <techcrisis> sup all
[22:25] <SIFTU> abjjdks832: I PMed some links
[22:25] <abjjdks832> SIFTU: yea I see
[22:26] <abjjdks832> NaikInsaan: I told you before..  use terminal server client
[22:26] <sean__> is there away to install windows realtek driver?
[22:26] <Gentoo64> sean__, no
[22:26] <sean__> not even wine?
[22:26] <Gentoo64> no
[22:26] <sean__> Gentoo64,  how do u reinstall alsa?
[22:26] <SIFTU> abjjdks832: do you suspend your comp
[22:26] <abjjdks832> sean__: look into ndiswrapper
[22:26] <abjjdks832> SIFTU: no, never
[22:27] <BarkingFish> sean__, what are you trying to run with the realtek driver? Internal or external wireless?
[22:27] <HagopH_> Is somebody available who can help me? I'm trying (and failing) to create a bootable Ubuntu USB flash drive.
[22:28] <abjjdks832> Is there any chance instability is related to encrypted home directory?
[22:28] <Gentoo64> shouldnt be
[22:28] <sean__> no no im tryin to install audio drivers.. because alsa is being dumb and i have to keep reconf hda analyzer
[22:28] <Gentoo64> instability how?
[22:28] <BarkingFish> sean__, in that case, Gentoo64 is spot on.
[22:28] <sean__> BarkingFish,  whats the way to reinstall alsa then?
[22:28] <BarkingFish> You can't use windows drivers to power linux audio devices, sorry sean__
[22:29] <SIFTU> abjjdks832: to me it looks like that kernel and your wirelss driver.. are you running 2.6.38 like everyone else with w T60 and having that problem
[22:29] <kosaidpo> hello guys
[22:29] <kosaidpo> how can i use httrack to dl only the ww.site.com/target the file under taget DIR
[22:29] <BarkingFish> I have no idea, unfortunately.  But I'm sure someone in here will be able to tell you, sean__ - I had to ask myself a month back, and I've forgotten :)
[22:29] <abjjdks832> $ uname -r
[22:29] <abjjdks832> 2.6.38-11-generic
[22:29] <Gentoo64> sean__, why do you need to? im not sure what command it is but its just a package
[22:29] <E3D3> On the downloadpage 32bits-version is recommended ? Even for a Centrino CPU & 4 GB RAM ?
[22:30] <Gentoo64> E3D3, it says that so noobs dont use 64 bit on a 32 cpu
[22:30] <sean__> Gentoo64,  because the sound isnt working.. now AT all restarted and tryed to put my model in the alsa-base.conf and nothing is working
[22:30] <sean__> Gentoo64,  so there for i want to reinstall alsa
[22:30] <abjjdks832> E3D3: you'll save yourself headaches if you use 32bit
[22:31] <kosaidpo> hello how can i use httrack to dl only the ww.site.com/target the file under taget DIR
[22:31] <Gentoo64> sean__, doubt reinstalling alsa would help. no harm in trying though... if only i knew the command
[22:31] <abjjdks832> I think linux has some workarounds to use > 4gB RAM in 32bit systems
[22:31] <Gentoo64> yes pae
[22:31] <Tekin_> this is bogus
[22:31] <emet> PAE
[22:31] <Gentoo64> but 64 bit is better
[22:31] <Tekin_> ubuntu is wasting my time
[22:31] <emet> ubuntu 32-bit uses PAE by default
[22:31] <abjjdks832> "better" is highly subjective
[22:31] <HagopH> Is somebody available who can help me? I'm trying (and failing) to create a bootable Ubuntu USB flash drive.
[22:31] <emet> it can use up to 64 GB of RAM
[22:31] <sean__> Gentoo64,  well do u know a way to make the settings form hda-analyzer.diff start up on ubuntu?
[22:31] <Gentoo64> 64 bit is the norm nowadays
[22:31] <MonkeyDust> HagopH: try unetbootin
[22:31] <SIFTU> abjjdks832: I would try the fix in this thread and see what it does https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=688252
[22:32] <kosaidpo> HagopH: use unbootin
[22:32] <Gentoo64> why use 32 on a 64 cpu
[22:32] <Gentoo64> except if you had really low ram
[22:32] <sean__> Gentoo64,  the .diff file is just settings i made for the codec... which is in proc/asound/cards/
[22:32] <HagopH> I did.
[22:32] <emet> next version of ubuntu is improving 32-bit support
[22:32] <emet> in 64-bit ubuntu
[22:32] <MonkeyDust> HagopH: try MultiSystem
[22:32] <emet> brb
[22:32] <kosaidpo> so whtas the error u gettin HagopH
[22:32] <Gentoo64> emet, as in how?
[22:32] <Gentoo64> multilib stuff?
[22:32] <HagopH> I tried unetbootin-windows-555.exe, Universal-USB-Installer-1.8.6.4.exe, and live-usb-install-2.3.1.exe.
[22:32] <SIFTU> Gentoo64: some people do for things like flash support and just general lower memory usage
[22:33] <Gentoo64> yea i suppose with v low ram
[22:33] <Gentoo64> it makes sense
[22:33] <HagopH> After using live-usb-install-2.3.1.exe to create bootable USB flash drive with ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso:
[22:33] <HagopH> SYSLINUX 3.83 2009-10-05 CBIOS Copyright (C) 1994-2009 H. Peter Anvin et al
[22:33] <HagopH> Could not find kernel image: linux
[22:33] <Gentoo64> flash has native 64 now properly updated (afaik)
[22:33] <MonkeyDust> HagopH: that's win stuff, you're in the wrong channel
[22:33] <SIFTU> Gentoo64: 64bit linux does have at least 10% higher memory footprint
[22:33] <abjjdks832> last time I tried to get flash working on 64bit it was a nightmare
[22:33] <kosaidpo> HagopH: do you point the unbootin to the iso image ?
[22:33] <HagopH> I'm using Windows to create my Ubuntu installation USB flash drive.
[22:34] <Gentoo64> abjjdks832, ah ive had flash working fine
[22:34] <HagopH> Yes, I point unbootin to the ISO.
[22:34] <MonkeyDust> HagopH: no support for win stuff here
[22:34] <HagopH> The flash drive I am trying to boot with *is* Ubuntu.
[22:35] <MonkeyDust> HagopH: the program is not ubuntu
[22:35] <OerHeks> HagopH, what format is the usb ext 3/4 ?
[22:35] <emet> MonkeyDust: he's trying to install ubuntu..\
[22:35] <OerHeks> HagopH, make sure it is fat 16/32
[22:35] <MonkeyDust> emet: he's trying to use a win program to make a bootable drive
[22:35] <HagopH> It is FAT32.
[22:35] <Gentoo64> unetbootin is win and linux
[22:35] <Gentoo64> no need to be harsh lol
[22:35] <Nisstyre> I would tend to disagree with that viewpoint
[22:35] <emet> bootable UBUNTU drive
[22:35] <emet> lol
[22:35] <MonkeyDust> Gentoo64: yes, but he's using the .exe
[22:36] <Gentoo64> so? its the same program
[22:36] <MonkeyDust> Gentoo64: win != linux
[22:36] <HagopH> How do I create a USB bootable Ubuntu disk if my only active system is Windows?
[22:36] <Gentoo64> MonkeyDust, why you being an arse though?
[22:36] <IdleOne> HagopH: download and install unetbootin
[22:36] <HagopH> I can get to the "boot: " prompt.
[22:36] <emet> HagopH: I dunno you use unetbootin, you might need to format your usb stick first tho as fat32
[22:37] <HagopH> But Ubuntu stops there.
[22:37] <Gentoo64> not helping him get ubuntu up and running, because hes running unetbootin on windows
[22:37] <MonkeyDust> Gentoo64: basically, he's asking how something works in win
[22:37] <xtor_> Does kernel.org have any ftp or http mirrors where I can download any kernel from? I just need a kernel tarball in order to run memtest.sh
[22:37] <HagopH> I AM NOT ASKING HOW SOMETHING WORKS IN WIN!
[22:37] <HagopH> I have the USB formatted and booting to Ubuntu.
[22:37] <Gentoo64> HagopH, it should auto format the drive
[22:37] <HagopH> It just stops at the "boot: " prompt.
[22:38] <HagopH> That's not Windows.
[22:38] <HagopH> It *does* autoformat the drive.
[22:38] <Gentoo64> HagopH, try another usb thing like pendrivelinux
[22:38] <Gentoo64> unetbootin does work fine but the other one might work for you
[22:38] <SIFTU> HagopH: there is something wrong with the usb image then.. the bootloader cant find the kernel
[22:38] <OerHeks> HagopH, did you check the md5sum of the iso ?
[22:38] <HagopH> Pendrivelinux tells me to use Universal-USB-Installer-1.8.6.4.exe, which I tried.
[22:38] <Gentoo64> HagopH, same thing?
[22:39] <samhitha> I lost my windows o/s after installing ubuntu 11.04, can someone help me recovering windows files
[22:39] <Gentoo64> samhitha, did you format the win partition?
[22:39] <HagopH> Yes. I've tried two different Ubuntu distributions: ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso and ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso.
[22:39] <BarkingFish> HagopH, Silly question, i know - but have you actually set up your BIOS to boot from USB?
[22:39] <samhitha> no
[22:39] <Gentoo64> samhitha, how did you lose the os then?
[22:39] <SIFTU> BarkingFish: its hitting the mbr
[22:40] <BarkingFish> SIFTU, so it's picking up the USB boot record, but not going any further, right?
[22:40] <samhitha> While installing ubuntu, I selected parallet o/s and allocated available partition
[22:40] <HagopH> Yes, BarkingFish, I have. With no flash drive inserted in USB port: Boot Failure<cr>Reboot and Select proper Boot device<cr>or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device<cr>Press any key when ready
[22:40] <yggdrasil> how do i find out what version of ubuntu i have ?
[22:40] <SIFTU> BarkingFish: yes
[22:40] <HagopH> Yes.
[22:41] <samhitha> after the install it is directly landing to ubuntu
[22:41] <HagopH> And that's not a silly question. Everything I'm reading suggests there are BIOS and FAT issues with this, but gives no solutions.
[22:42] <Gentoo64> HagopH, have you not got a cd drive?
[22:42] <HagopH> Not on the system I'm installing to.
[22:42] <HagopH> No CD, no floppy.
[22:42] <HagopH> No IDE drive.
[22:42] <samhitha> Gentoo64, are u following me?
[22:42] <JokesOnYou77> yggdrasil: lsb_release -a
[22:42] <Gentoo64> samhitha, no sorry
[22:42] <HagopH> Just one SATA.
[22:42] <Gentoo64> samhitha, i dont know anything about the install alongside windows thing
[22:42] <yggdrasil> thanks
[22:42] <Gentoo64> apart from i wouldnt do that
[22:43] <samhitha> hmm...
[22:43] <capnash> hi all
[22:43] <sean__> kk i just reinstalled alsa and now its says
[22:43] <sean__> aplay: device_list:235: no soundcards found...
[22:43] <HagopH> I'm not seeing any system startup scripts or can't see how syslinux is supposed to be called.
[22:44] <sean__> anyone know how i can reinstall my soundcard?
[22:44] <samhitha> can someone help with recovering windows which I lost after installing ubuntu 11.04
[22:44] <abjjdks832> sean__: you wouldn't 'reinstall' your sound card, it doesn't work like that in linux
[22:44] <abjjdks832> samhitha: 'lost'?  can you access your windows partition from ubuntu?
[22:44] <samhitha> no
[22:45] <sean__> abjjdks832,  so what would u do cause it says that  theres no sound card
[22:45] <abjjdks832> sean__: lspci.. anything in there look like a sound card?  have you had working sound before?
[22:45] <Gentoo64> samhitha, if the partition is somehow gone youll need a lot of luck recovering it lol
[22:45] <sunice> samhitha: in disk utility can you see the partition?
[22:45] <capnash> hirens
[22:46] <abjjdks832> SIFTU: I have redhat link open, going to look at that now.  do you think it's possible that this wireless thing locking system would happen only under high load?  or be more likely to happen under high load?
[22:46] <samhitha> yes, I can see the partition
[22:46] <sean__> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06)
[22:46] <SIFTU> abjjdks832: no idea
[22:46] <Gentoo64> samhitha, ubuntu should autodetect it
[22:46] <Gentoo64> not sure why it isnt
[22:46] <abjjdks832> dammit this is annoying
[22:46] <sean__> but when i do aplay -l it says no soundcards found
[22:47] <grojas> hi, is it better to install xubuntu in a 2gb ram netbook?
[22:47] <HagopH> Is somebody available who can help me? I'm trying (and failing) to create a bootable Ubuntu USB flash drive.
[22:47] <samhitha> is there any thing I need to do if ubuntu is not auto-decting
[22:47] <Gentoo64> grojas, theyll all work ok with 2gb ram
[22:47] <samhitha> detectin*
[22:47] <grojas> thanks
[22:48] <grojas> hagoph u using windows to create the flash drive?
[22:48] <BarkingFish> HagopH, Can you tell me what OS you're using right now, just so I can drag up some decent instructions?
[22:48] <sunice> samhitha: it may be grub? you can try adding to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:48] <HagopH> Yes.
[22:48] <Gentoo64> grojas, xubuntu would feel faster though
[22:48] <BarkingFish> I know it's windows, but which flavour?
[22:48] <HagopH> I'm using Win XP to create the flash drive.
[22:48] <BarkingFish> ok, one sec
[22:48] <grojas> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[22:48] <HagopH> Home Edition 2002 to be precise.
[22:48] <samhitha> sunice, can I have instruction for that please
[22:49] <HagopH> I have downloaded both ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso and ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso.
[22:49] <grojas> hagoph in that link you can see instructions to make the flash drive
[22:49] <boolio> just buy a live ubuntu flash drive online for a couple bux
[22:49] <BarkingFish> and you said you'd tried the UUI at pendrivelinux.com, right, HagopH?
[22:49] <grojas> yes Gentoo thats why i'm asking, i'm feeling the unity desktop a bit slow in the netbook
[22:50] <Gentoo64> grojas, yes xubuntu will be faster
[22:50] <sunice> samhitha: http://boff.wordpress.com/2007/01/17/editing-bootgrubmenulst-to-change-the-grub-boot-menu/
[22:50] <Gentoo64> grojas, unity 11.04 is about as slow as a distro gets
[22:50] <HagopH> Yes, I have tried UUI at pendrivelinux, as well as live-usb-install-2.3.1.exe and unetbootin-windows-555.exe.
[22:50] <sunice> samhitha: give that a look over. Maybe not precise but may help you along the way.
[22:50] <grojas> hagoph where are you stuck?
[22:51] <rtghuzhg> Hi how can i change my color depth manually without doing changes in the xorg.xconf
[22:51] <aaa_> where can i get help with installing the game Ryzom (from the software center)?
[22:51] <samhitha> let me try
[22:51] <abjjdks832> SIFTU:    ok .. I tam talking with a friend, he says with ath9k under high load his system would freeze ..
[22:51] <grojas> ok... i guess i'm going to install xubuntu
[22:51] <BarkingFish> ok, thanks. I'll see what else I can suck off the net for you HagopH :)  Be patient, we *will* fix this if it kills me, and it may :D
[22:51] <HagopH> I appreciate the effort, Barking.
[22:51] <c-beams> I'm trying to create an image fo a 1TB drive. dd started off fast at 32M/s but has gotten progressively slower and is now at 950K/s. what do I do?
[22:52] <Gentoo64> HagopH, if you're following the instructions and its not working. maybe try unetbootin from a licecd like partedmagic
[22:52] <HagopH> The problem seems to *me* to be a missing or improperly named startup script.
[22:52] <Gentoo64> livecd*
[22:52] <scyth> is there a sane way to change fonts in my unity desktop? or more importantly, the rendering (like I used to do it with gnome-appereance-properties before)
[22:52] <grojas> i'm a loosing much by changing unity to xubuntu?
[22:53] <HagopH> I don't know how to try unetbootin from a livecd like partedmagic.
[22:53] <Gentoo64> grojas, no nothing at all. you're gaining
[22:53] <grojas> ok thanks
[22:53] <Gentoo64> grojas, there will be a few different apps
[22:53] <abjjdks832> grojas: you're losing a lot of time that you would normally spend waiting for your computer to work :P
[22:54] <Gentoo64> grojas, i put xubuntu on my family comp downstairs it looks nice
[22:54] <sunice> samhitha: Before I forget to mention. have live cd in case you screw up grub. It's possible it won't boot at all if you make a mistake.
[22:55] <grojas> hhmm how do i replace unity with xubuntu?
[22:55] <samhitha> sunice, I am not finding menu.ls file at all under /boot/frub
[22:55] <Gentoo64> grojas, i thought you were doing a clean install... its the best way
[22:55] <samhitha> /boot/grub
[22:55] <BarkingFish> HagopH, have you used diskpart to confirm that the partition is actually active?
[22:55] <RatBattle> Hello all. I'm trying to install a dual boot of XP micro and ubuntu with ubuntu already installed. I've already read that the xp MBR will overwrite grub but that can be undone, however I have a separate /boot partition, what kind of outcome can I expect to see and will this make it easier to restore grub?
[22:55] <abjjdks832> SIFTU: I am going to try to crash system now :-S
[22:56] <HagopH> BarkingFish, I tried to partition the USB flash drive but was unable to do so.
[22:56] <samhitha> sunice, I am using 11.04 version
[22:56] <BarkingFish> HagopH, did it deny you access to it?
[22:57] <grojas> hhmm well i installed ubuntu from a live usb with 11.04 ubuntu and never asked about using unity or xubuntu lol
[22:57] <blaenk> I'm on ubuntu 9.10 server and I'm wondering how I can upgrade my vim 7.2 to vim 7.3?
[22:57] <grojas> i think
[22:57] <Gentoo64> grojas, its a different download
[22:57] <grojas> maybe a just forgot that it asked lol
[22:57] <BarkingFish> diskpart is supposed to be executed as "Run as administrator", otherwise it won't work.
[22:57] <grojas> aghhh
[22:57] <Gentoo64> grojas, plain "ubuntu" is the unity one
[22:57] <grojas> that sucks lol
[22:57] <katsrc> sup my niggas
[22:57] <katsrc> when is firefox 7 coming to the repos?
[22:57] <HagopH> BarkingFish, I didn't use diskpart. I assume that's an Ubuntu program?
[22:57] <SIFTU> abjjdks832: good luck
[22:57] <BarkingFish> no, it's a windows program
[22:57] <IdleOne> !language | katsrc
[22:58] <lilnasty> hello
[22:58] <HagopH> But when I formatted the USB in Windows, I wasn't given any option to format it smaller than its full size or in FAT16.
[22:58] <grojas> i thought xubuntu was just a windows managerfo ubuntu
[22:58] <sunice> samhitha: sorry distracted forgot they changed in grub2. try running "update-grub2"
[22:59] <Gentoo64> grojas, it uses xfce, ubuntu uses gnome / unity
[22:59] <abjjdks832> if this fixes it I might take back all the nasty things I have said about ubuntu and mark shuttleworth
[22:59] <Gentoo64> grojas, just dl the xubuntu iso
[22:59] <HagopH> I'm bringing up diskpart now.
[22:59] <abjjdks832> but if this is the source of my freezes, then this workaround / fix needs to be default, or user needs to be warned by that driver tool thinige
[22:59] <grojas> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[22:59] <grojas> will that work?
[23:00] <SIFTU> abjjdks832: i would guess its fixed in later kernels
[23:00] <Gentoo64> grojas, yes. but id recomend a clean install if possible. that way you wont have all the cruft and folders left behind from gnome etc
[23:00] <Gentoo64> and its easier
[23:00] <abjjdks832> what's the reason for clean install ?  just ... purge all the craps, and remove .gnome or .gconf or whatever else in homedir
[23:01] <samhitha> sunice, I did that but still not able to find menu.ls file
[23:01] <grojas> n550 atom is still x86 right?
[23:01] <HagopH> When I list the disks in diskpart, it shows only the HDD on this system, not the USB disk.
[23:01] <Gentoo64> abjjdks832, yes you can do, but if ubuntu is a clean install anyway.. if it was me id just install from xubuntu livecd
[23:01] <BarkingFish> HagopH, OK, I'm gonna help you sort this.  Here's what I want you to do: Insert the USB stick, and open your start menu. Click run, and type compmgmt.msc
[23:01] <Gentoo64> depends if you care or not. id do it for peace of mind
[23:01] <RatBattle> Hello all. I'm trying to install a dual boot of XP micro and ubuntu with ubuntu already installed. I've already read that the xp MBR will overwrite grub but that can be undone, however I have a separate /boot partition, what kind of outcome can I expect to see and will this make it easier to restore grub?
[23:01] <sunice> samhitha: yeah they got rid of it. That attempts to find you other partitions.
[23:02] <BarkingFish> When the onscreen diskmanager pops up, tell me if you see your USB stick.
[23:02] <KPG> Is the Hp Deskjet 3052a E-all-in-one Printer compatible on Ubuntu 11.04 via hplip? It does not appear to be in their list of supported devices: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/supported_devices/deskjet_aio.html.
[23:02] <grojas> Gentoo, for netbook i need the x86 version right/
[23:02] <grojas> ?
[23:02] <Jeruvy> RatBattle: the MBR is written to disk, not partition.  Otherwise I'm not clear on your question.
[23:02] <HagopH> Yes, I do.
[23:02] <Gentoo64> grojas, idk about netbooks. but to be safe yes
[23:02] <grojas> ok
[23:03] <BarkingFish> excellent HagopH
[23:03] <HagopH> It reads Healthy (Active).
[23:03] <BarkingFish> right, does it say How much space is left on the disk?
[23:03] <HagopH> Want me to delete the partition?
[23:03] <sunice> samhitha: also  found this may help. It's still very possible that the partition is toast. but take a look http://erickoo.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/how-to-add-vista-partition-to-grub-2-ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala/
[23:03] <BarkingFish> no, no.  Not yet anyhow, HagopH :)
[23:03] <HagopH> There's no space left on the disk. The partition takes up the entire disk.
[23:04] <BarkingFish> i want you to right click the partition, and select Properties
[23:04] <HagopH> Okay. Did it.
[23:04] <grojas> duh one hour for download :)
[23:04] <Gentoo64> its only an hour :)
[23:05] <BarkingFish> Right, HagopH - can you click on the Tools tab, and select Error checking please.
[23:05] <enferex> I downloaded the linux2.6.32 and the corresponding diff yet patch is reporting heaps of fialed hunks, I just want the ubuntu patched kernel source for 2.6.32
[23:05] <RatBattle> I'm just trying to understand if the MBR is located in the /boot partition and if i need to use a different method from standard (one partition installation) in restoring grub as the boot loader after I install xp
[23:05] <HagopH> Okay. Want me to select either of the options?
[23:05] <BarkingFish> Hit the "Check now" button, HagopH - and see if it comes back with any errors
[23:05] <Gentoo64> RatBattle, no the mbr is on the beginning of the disk not a partition
[23:05] <abjjdks832> can someone recommend some nonsense to load my CPU?  calculating primes or pi or such
[23:05] <HagopH> Disk Check Complete.
[23:05] <BarkingFish> No errors?  Hm.
[23:06] <Gentoo64> RatBattle, having a seperte /boot just means the ubuntu boot files are located on a partition rather than the root /boot bit
[23:06] <BarkingFish> One moment, I've been pinged.  Back in a sec, HagopH
[23:06] <linxeh> abjjdks832: folding@home?
[23:06] <RatBattle> Jeruvy: I'm just trying to understand if the MBR is located in the /boot partition and if i need to use a different method from standard (one partition installation) in restoring grub as the boot loader after I install xp
[23:06] <SIFTU> abjjdks832: I always compile a kernel
[23:06] <abjjdks832> SIFTU: that works!
[23:06] <Gentoo64> abjjdks832, compile anything with make -j30
[23:06] <SIFTU> RatBattle: no different method.. there is only 1 mbr per disk, same method to replace it
[23:06] <Gentoo64> or something like that
[23:07] <linxeh> abjjdks832: or you could do something useful to someone else with it
[23:07] <Jeruvy> RatBattle: no, the MBR will point to your boot which should be grub for dualbooting. which will then select the appropriate boot loader.
[23:07] <wobstep> If i use universal usb installer to install ubuntu onto my flash drive do i still need to do something else to format it?
[23:07] <abjjdks832> linxeh: apt-cache search folding | grep home  returns nothing
[23:07] <Gentoo64> abjjdks832, if its just to test for a crash then f@h is a waste of time
[23:08] <Gentoo64> its heavy
[23:08] <linxeh> abjjdks832: right. fortunately the world of software extends beyond the ubuntu repositories
[23:08] <linxeh> abjjdks832: http://folding.stanford.edu/English/Download
[23:08] <BarkingFish> HagopH, - so the disk is marked active, the partition is good, there are no errors... Does the drive have a drive letter assigned to it?
[23:08] <HagopH> Yes. F:
[23:08] <RatBattle> Jeruvy: awesome thanks. I've just read on tutorials that winxp overwrites the MBR when installed after linux causing my MBR to only point to XP
[23:09] <abjjdks832> uh, someone refresh my memory, what are source packages named?  I'm only seeing images and headers
[23:09] <Jeruvy> RatBattle: thats right.
[23:09] <Gentoo64> RatBattle, when you install xp it will overwrite it
[23:09] <SIFTU> RatBattle: yes, then you need to reinstall grub after the win install
[23:09] <linxeh> abjjdks832: you have to add the source to apt sources
[23:09] <RatBattle> which can only be done with a live cd? Or can i do it through windows?
[23:09] <linxeh> abjjdks832: ie deb-src lines
[23:10] <abjjdks832> RatBattle: in the future if you are configuring a multi boot machine, it's usually best practice to install windows, then ubuntu.  windows rather rudely will always overwrite your MBR
[23:10] <SIFTU> abjjdks832: they are the headers
[23:10] <BarkingFish> HagopH, Looking at my notes, something may actually be wrong.  When a disk is bootable, the disk management area should show Healthy (Active, Boot) or simply Healthy (Boot)
[23:10] <abjjdks832> linux-source-2.6.38 - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.38 with Ubuntu patches
[23:10] <abjjdks832> found it :P
[23:10] <RatBattle> yes so i have learned. -__- thanks for the info all
[23:11] <Jeruvy> RatBattle: Windows won't fix it.  You'll need something like Grub rescue disk or something that boots with grub installed.  Ubuntu livecd's don't come with grub installed (you can install it first but ..)
[23:11] <abjjdks832> it drives me mad when software does things without permission.  windows apps autoloading without asking first for example
[23:11] <abjjdks832> Jeruvy: pretty sure grub and friends is on the livecd
[23:12] <Jeruvy> abjjdks832: I'm pretty sure it doesn't
[23:12] <Gentoo64> so the ubuntu livecd has no grub?
[23:13] <abjjdks832> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[23:13] <abjjdks832> Jeruvy: pretty sure you're wrong :)
[23:13] <zero4311> hey guys
[23:13] <Gentoo64> hi
[23:13] <zero4311> hows it going?
[23:13] <Gentoo64> ok
[23:14] <gundam> hi
[23:14] <zero4311> hey gundam
[23:14] <Jeruvy> abjjdks832: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[23:14] <RatBattle> most of the guides i am reading tell me to boot a live cd, open the grub prompt (sudo grub) then enter the commands '>root (hd0,0)' then '>setup (hd0)' then '>exit"
[23:15] <zero4311> im pretty bored :/
[23:15] <gundam> i just got this os. is it that good?
[23:15] <Jeruvy> RatBattle: if grub is installed it will work, you can certainly try it out.
[23:15] <Gentoo64> gundam, youll find out wont you?
[23:15] <BarkingFish> !lts
[23:16] <xeviox> hi, I've setup Ubuntu 11.04 on a VirtualBox vm
[23:16] <xeviox> after that I installed aptitude and then gnome3-sessioin
[23:16] <Gentoo64> whats broken?
[23:16] <xeviox> gnome3-session
[23:16] <gundam> i was tired of windows.
[23:16] <abjjdks832> Jeruvy: exactly
[23:16] <xeviox> now I can't access the /home directy "permission denied"
[23:16] <Gentoo64> gundam, youll forget about windows one day
[23:16] <xeviox> nor can I run sudo
[23:17] <samhitha> sunice,  I found only linux partions with fdisk
[23:17] <Gentoo64> xeviox, is it a clean install?
[23:17] <Gentoo64> clean(ish)?
[23:17] <gundam> 10.4 net book ed.
[23:17] <zero4311> may i ask what is ubuntu iv'e heard of it, but what does it do?
[23:17] <Gentoo64> zero4311, its an operating system
[23:17] <Gentoo64> or are you trying to troll
[23:18] <xeviox> Gentoo64 yes
[23:18] <samhitha> sunice, are u available on any other chat engine
[23:18] <Gentoo64> xeviox, no idea why on a clean install. reinstall
[23:18] <Jeruvy> zero4311: you may want to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[23:18] <zero4311> oh ok sorry
[23:18] <xeviox> wow /home is even not printed with "ls -l" but it's there as "mkdir /home" throws "already exists"
[23:18] <Jeruvy> zero4311: np :)
[23:19] <Gentoo64> xeviox, ls -l /home/
[23:19] <Gentoo64> ?
[23:19] <gundam> is ubuntu good for gaming pc?
[23:19] <Gentoo64> gundam, no
[23:19] <xeviox> Gentoo64: no permission ..
[23:19] <Gentoo64> its not like windows for games
[23:19] <Gentoo64> xeviox, sounds buggered tbh
[23:19] <Gentoo64> :(
[23:19] <rhin0> depends on the games gundam
[23:19] <abjjdks832> gundam: it's fine if you want to play 3+yr old games
[23:20] <xeviox> sudo throws "unable to change to sudoers gid .."
[23:20] <abjjdks832> if you want to do latest and greatest everything... better just suck it up and use windows
[23:20] <Gentoo64> gundam, you can play games in wine watch youutube vids but its not anything like windows for just plug and play games
[23:20] <RatBattle> gundam: great for emulation though, just need emulators and a good usb joypad
[23:20] <abjjdks832> zsnes ftw!
[23:20] <xeviox> does gnome3 run in ubuntu 11.04 now?
[23:20] <Gentoo64> xeviox, no
[23:20] <kbreit> How can I install gnome3.2 in 11.04?
[23:20] <xeviox> in general
[23:20] <kbreit> I can't?
[23:20] <Gentoo64> xeviox, gnome 3 breaks ubuntu apparently
[23:21] <xeviox> ah shit
[23:21] <Gentoo64> i would use another distro for gnome 3 atm
[23:21] <gundam> ok thax iater.
[23:21] <xeviox> so thats what I run into :(
[23:21] <TheEvilPhoenix> !gnome3 | xeviox / kbreit
[23:21] <Gentoo64> xeviox, yes. i completely forgot you mentioned you put that on lol
[23:21] <Gentoo64> reinstall with no gnome 3
[23:21] <Gentoo64> youll live without it i think
[23:21] <RatBattle> gundam: theres also some great quake3 based games that still have quite a following such as tremulous, urban terror, and world of padman. I also recommend Savage (1 and 2) and Spiral Knights
[23:22] <xeviox> why is the "gnome3-session" package available in the repos?
[23:22] <gundam> ut3 gta4 apb.
[23:22] <RatBattle> gundam: and Teeworlds
[23:22] <Gentoo64> gundam, ut3 and gta4 youll nee dwine, and they work apparently/. go on the wine site and it shows you ratings for how well games run
[23:23] <Gentoo64> like silver gold platinum etc
[23:23] <alkafoo> xeviox: you know Unity requires GNOME 3
[23:23] <RatBattle> How effective are windows virtual machines when it comes to gaming?
[23:23] <Gentoo64> alkafoo, 11.04 uses gnome 2 no?
[23:23] <Gentoo64> RatBattle, bad
[23:24] <Gentoo64> virtualized hardware = bad even with accel
[23:24] <Gentoo64> i cant imagine how bad the mosue would be either
[23:24] <Gentoo64> mouse*
[23:24] <Tekin_> hi again
[23:24] <RatBattle> Oh well. Thats why I'm installing a dual boot of Micro XP. Nice stripped down version for running games and netflix
[23:24] <Tekin_> Ubuntu now decided to print my MOTD, but prints out duplicate MOTDs
[23:25] <Gentoo64> RatBattle, i used to do that years ago. then i stopped gaming :)
[23:25] <alkafoo> Gentoo64: no
[23:25] <Gentoo64> alkafoo, really? i thought it was gnome 2 my bad
[23:25] <RatBattle> Gentoo64: PSO bb is still alive and kicking for free and I've always wanted to try counter strike since I hear its free
[23:25] <alkafoo> just saying
[23:26] <alkafoo> PSO bb?
[23:26] <RatBattle> phantasy start online: blue burst
[23:26] <RatBattle> *star
[23:26] <alkafoo> now that's a name...
[23:26] <RatBattle> my favorite hack n slash rpg of all time
[23:26] <xeviox> not nice if a "aptitude install gnome3-shell" breaks your hole system :(
[23:27] <Gentoo64> i dont see why you dwant to though
[23:27] <xeviox> just want to try ..
[23:29] <SIFTU> xeviox: use a distro with it default.. or the gnome 3 livecd
[23:29] <abjjdks832> alright, compiling kernel and playing a video ...
[23:29] <Gentoo64> abjjdks832, and then it freezes :)
[23:29] <xeviox> SIFTU: jup, thanks
[23:33] <abjjdks832> still here ... so far .. did -j30 too, whatever that is :P  I'm guessing search for moar optimizations
[23:34] <SIFTU> abjjdks832: 30 threads
[23:34] <qin> xeviox: 11.10 comes in two weeks.
[23:34] <Gentoo64> abjjdks832, j30 just maxes your cpu
[23:35] <xeviox> qin: will it have gnome3 support?
[23:35] <Guest62779> hi i have a problem with my ubuntu when i boot i have grub prompt
[23:35] <abjjdks832> odd... system was extremly unresponsive... but now it's somewhat responsive
[23:35] <abjjdks832> yea, cpu is pegged
[23:35] <RatBattle> So is 11.10 going to include kernel 3.0 and gnome 3?
[23:35] <Gentoo64> someone just said 11.04 used gnome 3 :s
[23:36] <qH> hello
[23:36] <Gentoo64> im confused
[23:36] <qH> someone can help me to install the ati drivers on ubuntu 11.04?
[23:36] <Gentoo64> qH, are they not under the additional drivers bit?
[23:36] <SIFTU> abjjdks832: usually you set the number of threads to the number of cores you have plus 1
[23:37] <Guest62779> sorry but how to fix my grub form the grub prompt
[23:37] <abjjdks832> if that is usual practice .. is that default in the makefile?
[23:37] <Gentoo64> abjjdks832, no its j1 or j2
[23:37] <Gentoo64> not everything accept > j1
[23:37] <Gentoo64> for safeness
[23:38] <SIFTU> abjjdks832: I dont run ubuntu so mine is custom
[23:38] <abjjdks832> SIFTU: what do you use?
[23:38] <Gentoo64> abjjdks832, but if you have dual core general rule is j4, quad is j5 etc
[23:38] <abjjdks832> SIFTU: btw, best friend status conferred.  until I have another hard freeze at least
[23:38] <Gentoo64> abjjdks832, j3 *
[23:38] <dev_> anyone here knows how to fix usb drive thats half installed with ubuntu and corrupted?
[23:39] <abjjdks832> dev_: reformat, start over
[23:39] <dev_> gives error
[23:39] <vacho> anyone know why I am getting this error? /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lclntsh
[23:39] <dev_> like its write protected
[23:39] <DrShoggoth> sounds like its broke
[23:39] <qH> what are the best drivers, for computers with an ATI card?
[23:39] <DrShoggoth> flash memory sets itself readonly when there are no more writable blocks
[23:39] <SIFTU> abjjdks832: lol, dont hold your breath, those things are hard to track down. I did find 2.6.38 and 2.6.39 unusually bad kernels
[23:39] <abjjdks832> qH: the ones from AMD if it's a new card
[23:40] <dev_> its 4gb drive, but only 3.10gb is used
[23:40] <abjjdks832>  19:40:20 up  2:03,  8 users,  load average: 31.82, 29.18, 18.10
[23:40] <Gentoo64> dev_, try formatting it from gparted livecd or dont it allow you to?
[23:40] <dr_willis> how did it get coreupted
[23:40] <SIFTU> abjjdks832: dual core?
[23:40] <xeviox> is it a problem to switch from the ubuntu 11.10 beta to the release if it's out?
[23:41] <dev_> i have tried few putting 11.04 beta few months back but got buggy half way trough so i had to stop before it was done
[23:41] <abjjdks832> yes.  T7200
[23:41] <abjjdks832> 2.0ghz 4mb l2
[23:41] <dev_> nope
[23:41] <dr_willis> xeviox:  you can upgeade yes.
[23:41] <abjjdks832> C2D
[23:41] <xeviox> dr_willis: ok thanks
[23:41] <dev_> i can try from live cd, but dont see why would be diffrent from normal gpparted
[23:41] <Gentoo64> abjjdks832, lol @ load average
[23:41] <SIFTU> abjjdks832: yeah your load look like dual core
[23:42] <dev_> anyone knows how to format usb real good? instead just telling me to format?
[23:42] <qH> abjjdks832: my ati card is mobility radeon hd 4650
[23:42] <Gentoo64> dev_, download a partedmagic iso it has all the tools you need
[23:42] <Gentoo64> qH, use the fglrx or whatever the prop drivers called
[23:42] <OerHeks> dev_,  format fat32 should do
[23:43] <dr_willis> dev_:  this is a usb flash drive younean
[23:43] <dev_> yeah
[23:43] <dev_> 1st time i hear about it
[23:43] <dev_> let me try
[23:43] <dr_willis> mean
[23:43] <dr_willis> you may need to use dd to zero rhe drive then repartition
[23:43] <abjjdks832> desktop was really slow.. it's responsive enough now though.  still high load.  I hope this workaround has fixed my crash problems :|
[23:44] <alkafoo> dr_willis: ?
[23:44] <Gentoo64> abjjdks832, the only way youll tell is normal real usage
[23:44] <abjjdks832> the freezes usually happen under load though
[23:44] <skutr34> hey, how do I erase a CD-RW in ubuntu?
[23:45] <skutr34> can I do it from the file manager
[23:45] <skutr34> ?
[23:45] <skutr34> this is 11.10 beta 2
[23:45] <dr_willis> alkafoo: ?
[23:45] <SIFTU> abjjdks832: yep, time will tell
[23:45] <Gentoo64> skutr34, you could use cdrecord
[23:46] <dev_> parted magic is 170mb
[23:46] <dev_> can anyone tell me what it does 1st?
[23:46] <muesli> how can i make kde apps use their oxygen style when running gnome, instead of trying to adjust to my gnome style?
[23:46] <dev_> i kinda dont have fast net
[23:46] <skutr34> Gentoo64: oksay
[23:46] <Gentoo64> dev_, it has a load of useful tools involving drives
[23:46] <skutr34> okay*
[23:46] <Gentoo64> dev_, gparted, clonezilla, recovery tools, pretty much every tool
[23:47] <Gentoo64> dev_, you dont need it. just saying its a good one to have handy
[23:47] <skutr34> Gentoo64, would I get this from Ubuntu Software Centre?
[23:47] <dev_> :(
[23:47] <Gentoo64> skutr34, should already be built in
[23:47] <dr_willis> its a mini live cd with gparted and a few ither tools dev_
[23:47] <Gentoo64> skutr34, try man cdrecord and see
[23:48] <dev_> i dont need live linux, i want to delte half installed ubuntu from my usb
[23:48] <manizzle> is there a way to get a list of all installed packages and their version numbers?
[23:48] <abjjdks832> dev_: just format the drive
[23:48] <abjjdks832> manizzle: dpkg -l
[23:48] <dev_> doesnt work
[23:48] <dev_> write protected
[23:49] <SIFTU> dev_: just remove the partitions with fdisk
[23:49] <dev_> write protected getting some erorr
[23:49] <dev_> dunno 22 or 18
[23:49] <skutr34> Gentoo64: No manual entry for cdrecord.
[23:49] <manizzle> abjjdks832, how do i install packages in ubuntu if i know i specific version of a package and the package name>
[23:49] <dr_willis> dev_:  dd. fdisk. and or gparted as needed
[23:49] <SIFTU> dev_: udev is probably getting in the way
[23:49] <Gentoo64> skutr34, ah ok. not sure what the package would be called in ubuntu try installing cdrecord
[23:49] <manizzle> s/i/the/
[23:49] <mia158> hi, i just upgraded my dell latitude d630 to 8 gig of ram and installed the pae kernel. Is there anything else I should do to optimize the OS, Ubuntu 10.10 32 bit?
[23:50] <Gentoo64> mia158, i thought pae only allowed 4gb
[23:50] <abjjdks832> manizzle: why do you want a specific version instead of the latest version?
[23:50] <mia158> free -m shows all 8
[23:50] <dev_> udev?
[23:50] <Gentoo64> mia158, my bad
[23:50] <cobra-the-joker> Hey guys ... i am using 10.04 here ... how can i install some package from later versions ?!
[23:50] <Gentoo64> cobra-the-joker, add  ppa
[23:50] <Gentoo64> even though i get moaned at for saying that
[23:50] <manizzle> because i am building a system for which i want reliability of "worked" packages over the most recent packages
[23:50] <SIFTU> dev_: yes, man udev if you dont know what it is
[23:50] <cobra-the-joker> Gentoo64: how is that ?
[23:51] <manizzle> abjjdks832, ^^^
[23:51] <manizzle> actually, is there a way to copy all installed packages' dpkgs to a directory?
[23:51] <dr_willis> cobra-the-joker:  not a good idea to mix releases.
[23:51] <manizzle> that way i can just dpkg -i for all in that dir
[23:51] <skutr34> Gentoo64: sudo apt-get install cdrecord produces the output: Note, selecting 'wodim' instead of 'cdrecord'
[23:51] <abjjdks832> manizzle: what are you wanting to do exactly
[23:51] <mia158> should I do anything to swp?
[23:51] <abjjdks832> manizzle: /var/cache/apt/ has cache of packages
[23:52] <cobra-the-joker> dr_willis , its just the new light-themes package
[23:52] <skutr34> Gentoo64: I searched for wodim and it isn't on here either
[23:52] <manizzle> every installed package?
[23:52] <Gentoo64> skutr34, i use a program called cdw, try to find that
[23:52] <Gentoo64> skutr34, its ncurses
[23:52] <manizzle> i just want to be able to emulate my system exactly, no changes
[23:52] <dev_> ok gonna try that
[23:52] <manizzle> in installed packages wise
[23:52] <abjjdks832> how / where?  what is larger purpose?
[23:52] <Gentoo64> mia158, no leave swap
[23:52] <abjjdks832> I would just make a list of installed packages, then install them on other system
[23:53] <skutr34> Gentoo64: ncurses, or cdw?
[23:53] <Gentoo64> mia158, with 8gb ram you probably wont even need swap
[23:53] <Gentoo64> skutr34, cdw. its an ncurses program
[23:53] <SIFTU> mia158: you could play with swappiness
[23:53] <Xeneth> How would I run a process so that it will continue  even after closing the shell (terminal or ssh connection)?
[23:53] <manizzle> yeah sure, abjjdks832, i make list with dpkg -i. then how do i install the same version package on another machine
[23:53] <Gentoo64> mia158, set swappiness to 0 (vm.swappiness 0) in sysctl
[23:53] <abjjdks832> Xeneth: foo & disown
[23:53] <SIFTU> Xeneth: run it in "SCREEN" or nohup it
[23:53] <abjjdks832> Xeneth: or run it in a screen
[23:53] <abjjdks832> yea, nohup will work for most thing stoo, and it's more shell independent
[23:54] <skutr34> Gentoo64: oh, another thing; could you help me with my propreitary drivers installation?
[23:54] <dr_willis> Copy the apt cache did manizzle
[23:54] <mia158> thanks, I'll research that
[23:54] <Gentoo64> skutr34, maybe. what is it? graphics
[23:54] <Gentoo64> ?
[23:55] <abjjdks832> ok, I have a torrent going now as well ...
[23:55] <dr_willis> Dpkg -i *   can be bad.  Use with care
[23:55] <qH> fglrx drivers are the best for the ATI Radeon HD 4650?
[23:55] <Gentoo64> yes
[23:55] <Gentoo64> for speed
[23:55] <Gentoo64> only old ati card benefit from the os drivers
[23:55] <skutr34> Gentoo64: yes. I checked the log and what appears to be happening is that it is trying to install an nvidia driver when my g card is ati
[23:55] <skutr34> Gentoo64: I can't be sure though
[23:56] <Gentoo64> skutr34, ah ok. is the driver installed?
[23:56] <helio_> h
[23:56] <helio_> gg
[23:56] <helio_> fin
[23:56] <helio_> [
[23:56] <helio_> insdtall
[23:56] <k1llaByte> whats the best firewall for ubuntu?
[23:56] <skutr34> Gentoo64: no
[23:56] <helio_> install
[23:56] <FloodBot1> helio_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:56] <mia158> it's currently set to 10...shoiuld be okay, eh?
[23:56] <Gentoo64> k1llaByte, ufw is built in
[23:56] <ex0> iptables
[23:57] <skutr34> Gentoo64: give me a a second to produce the error
[23:57] <Xeneth> SIFTU, abjjdks832: Do I have to have a script, or can it be a normal process line an auto running program?  Good example, apt-get install.
[23:57] <Gentoo64> k1llaByte, use ufw if you dont know what youre doing
[23:57] <Gentoo64> sets good defaults
[23:57] <k1llaByte> kool
[23:57] <SIFTU> Xeneth: I presume you are running as root then
[23:57] <abjjdks832> k1llaByte: for most use cases it's not really needed.  are you behind a router?
[23:57] <k1llaByte> because i dont know im a noob to linux
[23:58] <SIFTU> Xeneth: nohup apt-get install .. &
[23:58] <k1llaByte> yes
[23:58] <Gentoo64> k1llaByte, to allow a port just ufw allow port
[23:58] <abjjdks832> why do you feel you need a firewall?
[23:58] <Gentoo64> you need ufw enable first
[23:58] <Gentoo64> abjjdks832, theres no harm, at all, in enabling and using it
[23:58] <Xeneth> SIFTU, So just nohup before any command, even sudo?
[23:58] <skutr34> Gentoo64: is cdw a command line app or something?
[23:58] <Gentoo64> skutr34, yes
[23:58] <abjjdks832> there's no need, at all, to use it
[23:58] <Gentoo64> ncurses
[23:58] <SIFTU> Xeneth: well sudo will ask for a password
[23:58] <k1llaByte> it's enabled and the only thing i have allowed is torrents
[23:58] <SIFTU> Xeneth: better to use screen
[23:59] <k1llaByte> paranois i guess
[23:59] <Gentoo64> qH, try it in classic mode
[23:59] <Atamisk> I'm curious, where are all the 'for purchase' apps i'm supposed to see in the Software Centre? are they in an unenabled repo?
[23:59] <Xeneth> SIFTU, so what if I sudo su before the nohup?
[23:59] <k1llaByte> paranoid*
[23:59] <Gentoo64> k1llaByte, youll need to learn stuff first
[23:59] <skutr34> Gentoo64: okay, how do I unmount my drive?
[23:59] <SIFTU> Xeneth: thats fine
[23:59] <Gentoo64> skutr34, umount
[23:59] <abjjdks832> k1llaByte: you're already behind a hardware fireall, you won't need a software one