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claydohOmg quasseldroid is nice00:08
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DarkwingDuckclaydoh: quasseldroid?01:18
claydohDarkwingDuck: yeah!!01:48
claydohI have a core, and I can connect to it from my phone01:48
ScottKclaydoh: I think having a good tutorial on how to move your data aside and then import it into kmail2 would be a really excellent thing.  Could you work on that?02:11
ScottKWow.  claydoh's getting all fancy and stuff.02:11
ScottK++ for quasseldroid though.02:11
claydohScottK: yes, that is why I m collecting problems/issues on it, I have seen many in my trials02:12
ScottKExcellent.02:12
ScottKWe also need bugs filed upstream too ..02:12
claydohScottK: so how to back up is easier up front 02:12
claydohScottK: I have not collected, that, but there are a few already02:13
claydohb.k.o has quite a few that is, I have not rounded the relevent ones02:14
claydohScottK: i figured since amazon is paying me 50$ for a reasobaly high-end phone, i should use the heck out of it :)02:14
valorieclaydoh: they are paying YOU?02:24
claydohvalorie: 50% amazon  gift card!?! on most adnroid phone, offer ened monday02:27
claydohs/50$/50%02:27
claydoherrr02:27
valorieah02:28
valoriewell, my phone is only 6 months old or so anyway.....02:28
valorieI tend to use them for a few years02:29
claydohits my first phone, I am addicted to it already, had it 2 days, already want to root it lol02:31
valoriewhat did you get?02:32
* valorie has the htc Thunderbolt/verizon02:32
jjesse_i'm debating droid bionic or waiting for droid hd02:32
claydohvalorie: I chose the droid charge over the tbolt (verizon) the amoled screen is quite visible outdoors in the sun, the cameras and cpu are mostly identical02:34
valorieI should have left verizon, since the reason I bought this was because it's a "world" phone02:34
valoriewas supposed to work in Europe02:34
valorieand it didn't02:34
claydohmy phone was free, plus the 50 bucks made me jump on it02:34
valorienice02:34
claydohLol being able to chat on irc while walking to the store is awesome !!02:41
claydohBeing able to chat in irc while walking to the store is awesome!!02:42
DarkwingDuckI have the galaxy s02:59
rbelemJontheEchidna, from upstream or our patch set?02:59
JontheEchidnarbelem: We had patched it to use QApt in our large uber-patch, but the whole uber-patch was dropped when the packagekit version went upstream03:00
JontheEchidnaI've uploaded a fix03:00
DarkwingDuckjjesse_: ping03:01
DarkwingDuckguess not03:08
rbelemthx JontheEchidna :-)03:27
Mamarokryanakca: what would you need exactly? Different size?07:21
bulldog98yofel: added a review to FFE08:21
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ryanakcaMamarok: Look closely, it's a Windows 7 screenshot :)09:25
didrocksScottK: sorry, still another Qt upload coming, seems dx can't work coordinated…09:27
agateauryanakca: just crop the taskbar and window titlebar away :)09:34
debfxdidrocks: you like to keep the arm builders busy? ;)09:59
didrocksdebfx: I'm not the real fan of it in fact :)10:00
didrocksdebfx: pitti downgraded the old armel build :)10:01
ScottKdidrocks: What's the upload?10:01
didrocksScottK: fixing a crash in qml10:01
ScottKAh.  Well, fixing crashes is good.10:01
didrocksScottK: yeah, multiple uploads isn't though :/10:03
bambeemorning10:05
keffie-jayxhello, just wanted to check, every time I start or resume my wireless network it asks for the passphrase 11:30
keffie-jayxis this a known issue11:30
keffie-jayx?11:30
keffie-jayxthis is on Oneiric Beta 2 with all updates up until toda11:30
keffie-jayxalso alt f2 does not bring out quicksand does not pop out11:32
keffie-jayxnever tried to run krunner by itself and I do not know if it makes sense at all11:36
ScottKyofel: Thanks for taking care of getting the printer-applet fix upstream.11:44
ScottKkeffie-jayx: I don't have that problem (wireless)11:45
ScottKkeffie-jayx: Are you on plasma-desktop or plasma-netbook?11:45
keffie-jayxScottK: netbook11:45
keffie-jayxshould it make a difference though?11:45
ScottKInstead of alt-f2 use the runner in search and launch.11:45
bulldog98keffie-jayx: do you have a systemconnection setup or a userconnection?11:46
ScottKI have a vague recollection we changed it not to have the regular runner working with netbook because there were some issues.11:46
bulldog98systemconnection works for me11:46
ScottKbulldog98: I have user connection and it's fine too.11:46
keffie-jayxScottK: I have to navigate away from my curren window11:46
bulldog98ScottK: yeah that’s right11:46
ScottKkeffie-jayx: That's a good point.11:46
keffie-jayxbulldog98: I have tried setting both11:47
bulldog98hm11:47
keffie-jayxScottK: I can agree that Quicksand was buggy11:47
ScottKI'm not a big krunner user, so I haven't paid much attention to this point.11:47
keffie-jayxand probably not used by many11:47
bulldog98system should always work even if no kwallet is installed, since it saves the passes in a file11:47
keffie-jayxbut If bad came to worse the thing wouldn't kill the plasma-desktop11:47
bulldog98keffie-jayx: me uses it :)11:48
bulldog98that’s one reason why I switched back to desktop on my netbook11:48
keffie-jayxWell I just wanted to know if it was a bug, now I know11:59
keffie-jayxabout wireless I will download a dayly build adn try there11:59
keffie-jayxthanks11:59
bulldog98didrocks: since when are you a legend? I thought only apachelogger would be our super hero (http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/09/29/didrocks-is-a-legend/)12:10
didrocksbulldog98: heh, I start to collect achievements, after my name being associated to chuck norris' photo on a previous jono's post :)12:12
bulldog98didrocks: can you count to infinity? No then you are not cuck norris :P12:13
didrocksbulldog98: I heard about some american book with all those silly quotes, I think I would need to buy one :-)12:14
bulldog98didrocks: the easiest way is to make up some :)12:14
didrocksbulldog98: heh, indeed :)12:15
bulldog98didrocks: btw is the a #chuck channel?12:15
didrocksprobably :)12:16
rbelemapachelogger, plasma active code free on 03/10 \o/12:45
apacheloggerrbelem: I do not understand12:51
apacheloggerrbelem: still no UI for UDS? :P12:51
* apachelogger made a fancy new icon12:51
* apachelogger then realized that the fancy new icon is a bit rubbish and might have to redo it :S12:51
apacheloggerdidrocks: clearly jono is abusing kubuntu dev titles there12:52
rbelemapachelogger, not yet :-( the designers are really busy with other stuff, so they had to postpone a little :'(12:52
apacheloggerkk12:52
* apachelogger can't wait :D12:52
didrocksapachelogger: is there a pattern? what to sue him? I heared it's the way it's dealt now :p12:52
rbelemapachelogger, they were doing something similar to guidebook12:53
apacheloggerdidrocks: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/GettingInvolved/Development#Career-212:53
rbelemapachelogger, but more beautiful :-)12:53
apacheloggerrbelem: which is similar to what the UDS app is ^^12:53
apacheloggeractually I was toying with the idea of making the app more generic, good to know that I do not need to do that ^^12:53
rbelemapachelogger, but with some more features and nice design12:53
apacheloggerguidebook is rubbish anyway12:54
apacheloggeranyhow12:54
apacheloggercheckout12:54
ScottKdidrocks: Does the patch in this latest upload have any upstream review?12:56
ScottKMabye fabo could have a quick look at http://launchpadlibrarian.net/81424642/qt4-x11_4%3A4.7.4-0ubuntu6_4%3A4.7.4-0ubuntu7.diff.gz ?12:56
didrocksScottK: yes, it was done in collaboration with upstream (slightly different for Qt 4.8) and the upstream bug report just had a status changed12:58
Riddellbulldog98: does the address bar drop down suggestions work in that new rekonq?14:19
yofelRiddell: this? http://i.imgur.com/2yfiv.png14:42
Riddellyofel: that's the one14:44
yofelk, this is running 0.7.9014:44
Riddellare you running some sort of Plasma Unity theme?14:44
yofelhuh? nope, just reorganised the panels, and using the Produkt theme14:45
yofelthe default task manager only shows icons when used vertically14:45
yofel(and the panel isn't wide enough for text)14:45
ScottKapachelogger: Can we make the Akonadi Server Configuration KCM appear in system settings?15:20
ScottKNeed it for a bug workaround.15:20
ScottKclaydoh: Bug #862483  is another one for your "pile of kdepim woes" collection.15:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 862483 in akonadi (Ubuntu) "Unable to read mail after resume due to akonadi hang" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86248315:25
ScottKRiddell: re your mail on FOSDEM - To which continent are you leaving?15:35
cyphermoxallee: ping.15:35
alleeWhere's the code of the pkg  networkmanagement ?   Did find it in ~kubuntu-packagers bzr repos?15:36
RiddellScottK: none really, sunny Guadeloupe15:36
alleecyphermox: pong15:36
cyphermoxallee: essentially the change is just making sure "dh" gets added to the dh key value instead of just the number.15:37
ScottKAh.  Nice.15:37
ScottKWhat time zone is that in?15:37
alleecyphermox: ok.  I try to fix it.  I'll contact you when there progress15:39
cyphermoxallee: sure, but I can't merge to that package, you'll need to ask someone here :)15:40
cyphermoxit's three or four lines fix, really straightforward IIRC15:40
alleecyphermox: have you a patch already?15:40
cyphermoxallee: I did, but I can't find the code anymore15:40
alleecyphermox: okay.15:41
alleeScottK: vpnc bug: where the networkmanagement bzr repo?  showsrc only mentions the debian git repo15:43
yofelallee: apt-get source networkmanagement - there's no branch15:43
ScottKDunno.  There may not be one.15:43
alleeyofel: okay thx15:43
yofelwell, lp:ubuntu/oneiric/networkmanagement would work I guess for getting the full package with full history15:44
yofelhm, nope15:44
yofelcorrection, it works, I had a typo15:45
ryanakcaRiddell: You can email the person and tell them its been fixed, should you so wish.15:47
Riddellryanakca: which has?15:48
Riddellryanakca: ah, amarok, did you just crop it? :)15:48
ryanakcaRiddell: aye.15:50
Riddellsneaky :)15:50
Riddellryanakca: how's the new wiki theme doing?15:50
ryanakcaRiddell: I can prod the sysadmins some more, nothings appeared on the RT since they moved it to the General queue, but I was told they would consider it release critical15:51
Riddellah, waiting on sysadmins :(15:52
RiddellI do dislike RT as a tool15:52
* yofel still waits for jelmer's RT about new bzr + bzr-builder versions on the buildds to be done...15:53
ryanakcaRiddell: See https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=1788015:53
ScottKyofel: You need to convince Riddell to do a rotation in IS.15:55
Riddell:)15:55
yofelin half a year maybe, we need him back for a while first :P15:56
Riddellooh, you still want me?15:56
macodid i walk in at a funny time?15:57
yofelmaco: we're making Riddell feel needed here ;)15:58
RiddellI'm looking forward to coming back16:00
Riddellbut my goal for the next cycle is to learn French, so I'll only be speaking en Francais, hope that's ok with everyone :)16:00
macoRiddell: you and aurelien have fun then16:00
agateauRiddell: fine with me16:01
alleecyphermox:  replace "n" -> "ndh"  or "n" -> "dhn"  with n out of  1 2 5  ?16:01
cyphermoxallee: dhn16:01
alleecyphermox: ok.  patching ...16:01
Riddellagateau: although I don't think I'll ever get into using an azerty keyboard!16:01
cyphermoxallee: something close to this, though it's not tested: http://paste.ubuntu.com/699180/16:03
* bambee proposes wine, cookies and chocolate to the one who will upload kde-workspace-4.7.1-0ubuntu5 into archives16:04
alleecyphermox: ah, thx.  I've had noticed yet the need for the first hunk16:05
* allee will test16:05
jussicyphermox: was it you I was talking to about my 3G modem having issues last UDS? (I doubt you remember, but still, I can but ask)16:06
cyphermoxyeah16:06
cyphermoxallee: also note, it seems to probably have been fixed upstream in a slightly different way: Git commit 8894d0de848c4bad7ae689eba62e3f34089b6510 by Lukas Tinkl16:06
ubottuhttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=8894&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 8894 | fixed link order16:06
jussicyphermox: did anything come of that? can I look forward to my modem working in oneiric? 16:06
ScottKbambee: I'll look at it.  I'll want whisky instead of wine though.16:07
alleecyphermox: was checking upstream already, but you're alway a sec faster  :)16:07
cyphermoxjussi: I don't recall which modem it was, but I think it might be working. best is to try it on a livecd :)16:07
ScottKbambee: ubuntu4 or ubuntu5?16:07
ScottKI just did bzr pull and got ubuntu4.16:07
cyphermoxallee: that might not be exactly the right commit, but if you look somewhere in June 201116:07
bambeeScottK: oh, ubuntu4 yes16:08
bambee(the last one found in lp:~kubuntu-packagers)16:08
jussicyphermox:  twas a gobi2000 - weird thing. but Ill give a livecd a go.16:10
ScottKGot it.16:10
cyphermoxjussi: oh, right. gobi devices are hit and miss, but I've pushed some fixes that might help16:11
cyphermoxjussi: you'll still need to have the closed-source firmware files (2 of them IIRC) they need to work, and I can't provide those16:12
maco2my quassel is broken :(16:18
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alleecyphermox: I'm lost in git (git newbee).  Could find the commit.    Can you cherrypick the patch or should be go with your variant?       From scanning git log I wonder if there are more fixes worth picking.  We miss more than 3 month of bug fixes16:32
allee* could not find16:32
ScottKbambee: Can you help allee do that cherrypick?16:34
ScottKI uploaded workspace.16:34
bambeeScottK: sure16:36
bambeeScottK: thanks!16:36
ScottKThanks.16:36
ScottKallee: ^^ bambee to the rescue.16:36
alleebambee: you are my hero!!16:36
alleebambee, ScottK, cyphermox: when you ever visit the Octoberfest I'll spend you a Mass Bier !!16:37
ryanakcaRiddell: see the last few lines in canonical-sysadmins re: the wiki theme16:39
bambeeallee: well, so you want to cherrypick a patch from upstream to plasma-widget-networkmanagement, right ?16:41
alleebambee: yes, vpnc is not working in oneiric.  cyphermox has a untested patch http://paste.ubuntu.com/699180/ and later mentioned that upstream solved it differently16:43
alleebambee: <cyphermox> allee: also note, it seems to probably have been fixed upstream in a slightly different way: Git commit 8894d0de848c4bad7ae689eba62e3f34089b6510 by Lukas Tinkl16:43
ubottuhttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=8894&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 8894 | fixed link order16:43
cyphermoxwell, differently is a big word, it's very similar16:43
cyphermoxthat link is wrong btw :)16:43
Daskreechvalorie: hullo/16:44
bambeehttp://quickgit.kde.org/?p=networkmanagement.git&a=commit&h=8894d0de848c4bad7ae689eba62e3f34089b6510  <-- so this one16:44
cyphermoxbambee: correct, there should be a fix for the DHGroup key passed to vpnc in plasma-widget-networkmanagement; afaics the commit I was referring to was just a little later than our snapshot16:44
alleebambee: I did scan git log of networkmanagement.git and notices that there are some changes that might be worth picking too.  (e.g.  vpnc export does also not work at the moment)16:44
alleebambee: there must be an earlier patch,  because there's already 'dh2' where our version has still '2'.    n -> dhn is the fix16:46
cyphermoxright16:46
bambeearrff quickgit.k.o is slow v_v16:49
RiddellGuest91840: maco you are more than a guest here16:49
bambeelooking16:50
bambeecyphermox: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=networkmanagement.git&a=commitdiff&h=5e19d5bbd46ce19f32b8a038fa5121932e90573216:52
bambee(DHGroup key passed to vpnc)16:52
bulldog98qtwebkit 2.2 released16:55
alleebambee: yes that's a variant of cyphermox patch at http://paste.ubuntu.com/699180/16:56
bambeethis is the next one after our snapshot16:56
alleebambee: sometimes you guys are too fast :)16:58
alleebambee: I will test this patch here. Will you have a look at git log for other 'important and save' fixes16:59
bambeelooking17:00
bambeeallee: please test http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=networkmanagement.git&a=commit&h=8894d0de848c4bad7ae689eba62e3f34089b6510   AND http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=networkmanagement.git&a=commit&h=5e19d5bbd46ce19f32b8a038fa5121932e905732 17:01
Guest91840wrong command!17:03
Guest91840hrmph nicksrv says my nick is unavailable17:04
shadeslayerGuest91840: release your nick with /msg nickserv release maco17:05
shadeslayershould work then17:05
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macoyay!17:07
macothanks shadeslayer17:07
bambeethis one would be interesting http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=networkmanagement.git&a=commitdiff&h=785023bf778b7cabbb482cac74b20896a07cb82f17:07
shadeslayer:)17:07
macoScottK: i think it means Riddell will be living in our timezone17:08
ScottKI wasn't sure if it was this one or one to the east.17:08
macoi thought one to the east was only in canada17:08
ScottKDunno.  Who keeps track of islands in the Carribean.17:09
shadeslayerA Cartographer :P17:10
shadeslayerany packaging stuff that needs looking into17:12
shadeslayer+?17:12
ScottKshadeslayer: scan KDE git/svn for important stuff to cherrypick.17:17
shadeslayeralright17:17
bambeewhy is there no release for networkmanagement? tags might help17:21
shadeslayerwell, kdepimlibs has a ton of bug fixes i think17:23
alleeshadeslayer: according the changelog ScottK sync changes until 28-Sep already17:27
shadeslayerah alright, i was just browsing stuff17:28
alleeshadeslayer: how about krandrtray and it kcm module?   Hope dies last ;)17:32
shadeslayerallee: alright, i'll have a look at those17:33
shadeslayerallee: akonadi needs a new upload as well, i see 6 bug fixing commits after the last tag17:35
alleeshadeslayer: akonadi fixes are also very here!! :)17:40
shadeslayerallee: i'm not sure i understand that statement :)17:40
shadeslayerare you working on those?17:41
alleeshadeslayer: a) add 'welcome' to my last statement  b)  I don't work on them.  I've two users that are driven crazy  by akonadi 17:42
shadeslayer:D17:42
shadeslayergit log --grep tells me the last krandrtray fix was in May, so i think we can leave that out17:43
alleecyphermox, bambee:  vpnc works again  (I could connect to work)  .  but in syslog vpnc complains error writing /var/run/vpnc/pid   and in fact /var/run/vpnc did not exist  (installed vpnc pkg a sec ago on this system)17:44
shadeslayeraha, but it misses out on other stuff17:44
alleecyphermox: I've to leave now.   I test from home once more and send you then the debdiff (I assume late tonight or tomorrow)17:45
alleebye and thx!17:45
cyphermoxthat might be an issue17:45
cyphermoxcan you send us what you have now?17:45
bambeehttp://quickgit.kde.org/?p=networkmanagement.git&a=commit&h=8894d0de848c4bad7ae689eba62e3f34089b6510   AND http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=networkmanagement.git&a=commit&h=5e19d5bbd46ce19f32b8a038fa5121932e905732 17:46
bambeeI guess17:46
cyphermox(because late tongiht might mean different things to different people, and final freeze is in 3 hours or so)17:46
bambeeallee: could you cherrypick this one too http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=networkmanagement.git&a=commitdiff&h=785023bf778b7cabbb482cac74b20896a07cb82f ?17:46
bambeein 3 hours... mhh does not help :\17:47
* debfx notes that we have disabled all nm applet notifications by default17:47
ScottKAll?17:48
bambeeallee: that's too late if you test these patches late tonight17:48
ScottKbambee: I'll approve it for tomorrow.17:48
ScottKI'd rather have it tested than just toss it in.17:48
bambeeif it's possible, ok then17:48
shadeslayerrev 2b65cfd343a0d6b54c19e3df9ab54fe7012c2e70 in kde workspace as well17:49
ubottuhttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=2&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 2 | Source imported17:49
shadeslayer^ ubottu needs to be ported to use git :P17:49
ScottKshadeslayer: I just uploaded -workspace.17:49
ScottKIs there even more?17:49
shadeslayerScottK: workspace from git?17:50
ScottKpatches17:50
shadeslayeri have a patch dated 5 hours ago17:50
shadeslayerhttps://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kde-workspace/repository/revisions/2b65cfd343a0d6b54c19e3df9ab54fe7012c2e70/diff 17:50
ScottKbambee: ^^^17:50
shadeslayerincorrectly renders rotated screens17:50
shadeslayerrather .. fixes incorrectly rendered rotated screens ..17:51
bambeeScottK: I uploaded kde-workspace-4.7.1-0ubuntu4 three or four days ago... ^^17:51
ScottKOK.17:51
bambeethis one was not commited yet17:51
ScottKshadeslayer: Look at what's in ubuntu4 and push additional changes you think are worth it to bzr.17:51
shadeslayerok17:52
ScottKSame with akonadi.17:52
shadeslayeryeah, i'm doing akonadi first17:54
bambeeshadeslayer: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kde-workspace.git&a=commit&h=d30fa6576204874f67ef1d4787448898789f8d20  + http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kde-workspace.git&a=commit&h=5a902ef7fb248fb156a23adaab7a32162d538378 ? 17:54
bambee(since you bump kde-workspace, you can cherrypick these patches too...)17:54
shadeslayerbambee: i haven't gone through the entire thing yet, but allee mentioned krandrtray so i was looking for those first17:55
bambeenp17:55
bambeethat was just a suggestion :)17:56
shadeslayeryep, i'll probably look at workspace tomorrow after my visa interview, I'm doing akonadi tonight17:57
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apacheloggerwell then20:00
apacheloggerhello20:00
ulysseshellllllo20:00
ari-tczewhello20:03
ari-tczewhave you got oneiric up to dated?20:03
* ulysses still uses Natty20:05
* yofel has up-to-date oneiric20:06
ari-tczewyofel: can you check whether software based on gtk works already? e.g. nvidia-settings, firefox20:07
yofelfirefox works fine for me, what was the problem with gtk?20:07
ari-tczewnvidia-settings: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libcanberra-gtk-module.so: undefined symbol: gdk_error_trap_pop_ignored20:08
yofelworks fine here (amd64)20:08
ari-tczew /usr/lib/firefox-7.0.1/firefox: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libcanberra-gtk-module.so: undefined symbol: gdk_error_trap_pop_ignored20:08
ScottKmaco: Did your certificate expire?20:11
macoScottK: my ssl cert for quassel? yes20:13
macoi generated a new one today20:13
ScottKI see you're on your regular nic.  Did you get it fixed?20:14
ari-tczewyofel: are you still affected by bug 846027 ?20:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 846027 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "strange behavior of second panel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84602720:15
yofellast time I tried it it was still there, give me a minute to restart the session20:16
yofelyep still there20:17
yofeland...20:17
yofelI lost all my activities???20:18
apacheloggermac os x lion has activities20:18
ari-tczewyofel: could you comment something on this bug?20:18
yofeloh great, knotify doesn't work either20:19
yofelI'm getting notify-osd like gtk1 theme notifications20:19
yofelfun20:19
yofelari-tczew: great, *now* I'm getting your symbol lookup error20:20
ari-tczewyofel: bug 86255320:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 862553 in libcanberra (Ubuntu) "Latest libcanberra update causes Firefox and Thunderbird to crash on startup" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86255320:21
yofelNOW I'm glad we have rekonq20:22
yofelari-tczew: do you know if there's an upstream report for bug 846027?20:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 846027 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "strange behavior of second panel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84602720:23
yofelthis sounds somewhat familiar...20:27
yofel KActivityManager::self: Activity: Couldn't start kactivitymanagerd:  "Could not find service 'kactivitymanagerd.desktop'."20:27
yofeloh, I had the kubuntu-active PPA on20:28
ari-tczewyofel: not yet figured out upstream bug20:28
ari-tczewyofel: IMO is it plasma bug, what do you think?20:28
yofelk, lemme get a somehow working desktop back and I'll look at it20:29
ari-tczeweverytime when I want to shutdown my Kubuntu, I get a plasma crash. yofel, do you have it as well?20:30
ari-tczewand then desktop is restarted - including wrong behavior of 2nd panel20:30
yofelI think I got one in natty once at shutdown, didn't have time to debug it though20:30
yofelI don't get any in oneiric20:31
ari-tczewhmm, idd20:31
ari-tczewodd *20:31
yofelwell, let's see if the patches from workspace ubuntu4 help in any way20:32
yofelyay, desktop regained20:37
ari-tczewdo you mean regained - related to bug in libcanberra?20:46
ari-tczewyofel: ^20:46
yofelboth my libcanberra error (downgraded), and activities (purge kubuntu-active ppa)20:47
macoScottK: yes21:01
ScottKOK.  Good.21:01
macoi apparently needed to reboot after adding the new certificate because quassel got rather wedged on its ports after i kept retrying to connect21:02
macoand then it still wasnt working...so i kill -9'd it and manually started it on the command line21:02
macowith LogLevel=Debug and the debugging flag...and then it worked21:02
maco*shrug* may have tried to start before the network?21:02
ScottKThere's a typo in the init that debfx fixed for oneric that may be to blame too.21:02
macomy server's on hardy21:03
macono not hardy21:03
macolucid21:03
macothat one21:03
macowith the lts and stuff21:03
ScottKI think the typo goes back that far.21:03
ScottKYou should upstartify quassel-core for us.21:03
macodude, have you *seen* that init script? *shudder*21:03
* apachelogger wrote that script!!!!!21:05
apacheloggerdon't mock me scripting skillz21:05
macohi hi hi so21:08
macoi have a friend. she does a little python and uses kubuntu. 21:08
macoi know canonical <3 python, but thats mostly on ubuntu right?  does anything pythony happen in kde or kubuntu other than me going "i like pykde!" ?21:08
ScottKYou could conn her into doing the Ubiquity accessibility work you blew off this cycle.21:10
ScottKThere's unfinished work on the printer-applet that's technically upstream work, but comes from Kubuntu.21:11
ScottKThe latter is a matter of resyncronizing the code that's borrowed from the Gnome one, triaging bugs, and working on fixing the ones that are left.21:12
macoScottK: ...i did a bad job of bugging luke into teaching me how casper works21:45
maco(i'm pretty sure casper's not python)21:45
macoScottK: why is the release 2 weeks early, btw?21:49
macoi jaw-dropped at kate a couple days ago about today being final freeze21:49
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yofelJontheEchidna: how about letting muon try to run dpkg --configure -a by itself? Most users won't know that they might need to run it, and it usually doesn't break anything either22:40
JontheEchidnaI could probably make it so that if dpkg fails during an install it would try to run it. Might be a bit hacky, though.22:44
JontheEchidnaiirc synaptic does something similar, with a //HACK: comment right above it :P22:44
JontheEchidnaI'll take a look at it22:44
yofelyeah, I remember synaptic trying to recover by itself22:46

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