[00:08] <claydoh> Omg quasseldroid is nice
[01:18] <DarkwingDuck> claydoh: quasseldroid?
[01:48] <claydoh> DarkwingDuck: yeah!!
[01:48] <claydoh> I have a core, and I can connect to it from my phone
[02:11] <ScottK> claydoh: I think having a good tutorial on how to move your data aside and then import it into kmail2 would be a really excellent thing.  Could you work on that?
[02:11] <ScottK> Wow.  claydoh's getting all fancy and stuff.
[02:11] <ScottK> ++ for quasseldroid though.
[02:12] <claydoh> ScottK: yes, that is why I m collecting problems/issues on it, I have seen many in my trials
[02:12] <ScottK> Excellent.
[02:12] <ScottK> We also need bugs filed upstream too ..
[02:12] <claydoh> ScottK: so how to back up is easier up front 
[02:13] <claydoh> ScottK: I have not collected, that, but there are a few already
[02:14] <claydoh> b.k.o has quite a few that is, I have not rounded the relevent ones
[02:14] <claydoh> ScottK: i figured since amazon is paying me 50$ for a reasobaly high-end phone, i should use the heck out of it :)
[02:24] <valorie> claydoh: they are paying YOU?
[02:27] <claydoh> valorie: 50% amazon  gift card!?! on most adnroid phone, offer ened monday
[02:27] <claydoh> s/50$/50%
[02:27] <claydoh> errr
[02:28] <valorie> ah
[02:28] <valorie> well, my phone is only 6 months old or so anyway.....
[02:29] <valorie> I tend to use them for a few years
[02:31] <claydoh> its my first phone, I am addicted to it already, had it 2 days, already want to root it lol
[02:32] <valorie> what did you get?
[02:32]  * valorie has the htc Thunderbolt/verizon
[02:32] <jjesse_> i'm debating droid bionic or waiting for droid hd
[02:34] <claydoh> valorie: I chose the droid charge over the tbolt (verizon) the amoled screen is quite visible outdoors in the sun, the cameras and cpu are mostly identical
[02:34] <valorie> I should have left verizon, since the reason I bought this was because it's a "world" phone
[02:34] <valorie> was supposed to work in Europe
[02:34] <valorie> and it didn't
[02:34] <claydoh> my phone was free, plus the 50 bucks made me jump on it
[02:34] <valorie> nice
[02:41] <claydoh> Lol being able to chat on irc while walking to the store is awesome !!
[02:42] <claydoh> Being able to chat in irc while walking to the store is awesome!!
[02:59] <DarkwingDuck> I have the galaxy s
[02:59] <rbelem> JontheEchidna, from upstream or our patch set?
[03:00] <JontheEchidna> rbelem: We had patched it to use QApt in our large uber-patch, but the whole uber-patch was dropped when the packagekit version went upstream
[03:00] <JontheEchidna> I've uploaded a fix
[03:01] <DarkwingDuck> jjesse_: ping
[03:08] <DarkwingDuck> guess not
[03:27] <rbelem> thx JontheEchidna :-)
[07:21] <Mamarok> ryanakca: what would you need exactly? Different size?
[08:21] <bulldog98> yofel: added a review to FFE
[09:25] <ryanakca> Mamarok: Look closely, it's a Windows 7 screenshot :)
[09:27] <didrocks> ScottK: sorry, still another Qt upload coming, seems dx can't work coordinated…
[09:34] <agateau> ryanakca: just crop the taskbar and window titlebar away :)
[09:59] <debfx> didrocks: you like to keep the arm builders busy? ;)
[10:00] <didrocks> debfx: I'm not the real fan of it in fact :)
[10:01] <didrocks> debfx: pitti downgraded the old armel build :)
[10:01] <ScottK> didrocks: What's the upload?
[10:01] <didrocks> ScottK: fixing a crash in qml
[10:01] <ScottK> Ah.  Well, fixing crashes is good.
[10:03] <didrocks> ScottK: yeah, multiple uploads isn't though :/
[10:05] <bambee> morning
[11:30] <keffie-jayx> hello, just wanted to check, every time I start or resume my wireless network it asks for the passphrase 
[11:30] <keffie-jayx> is this a known issue
[11:30] <keffie-jayx> ?
[11:30] <keffie-jayx> this is on Oneiric Beta 2 with all updates up until toda
[11:32] <keffie-jayx> also alt f2 does not bring out quicksand does not pop out
[11:36] <keffie-jayx> never tried to run krunner by itself and I do not know if it makes sense at all
[11:44] <ScottK> yofel: Thanks for taking care of getting the printer-applet fix upstream.
[11:45] <ScottK> keffie-jayx: I don't have that problem (wireless)
[11:45] <ScottK> keffie-jayx: Are you on plasma-desktop or plasma-netbook?
[11:45] <keffie-jayx> ScottK: netbook
[11:45] <keffie-jayx> should it make a difference though?
[11:45] <ScottK> Instead of alt-f2 use the runner in search and launch.
[11:46] <bulldog98> keffie-jayx: do you have a systemconnection setup or a userconnection?
[11:46] <ScottK> I have a vague recollection we changed it not to have the regular runner working with netbook because there were some issues.
[11:46] <bulldog98> systemconnection works for me
[11:46] <ScottK> bulldog98: I have user connection and it's fine too.
[11:46] <keffie-jayx> ScottK: I have to navigate away from my curren window
[11:46] <bulldog98> ScottK: yeah that’s right
[11:46] <ScottK> keffie-jayx: That's a good point.
[11:47] <keffie-jayx> bulldog98: I have tried setting both
[11:47] <bulldog98> hm
[11:47] <keffie-jayx> ScottK: I can agree that Quicksand was buggy
[11:47] <ScottK> I'm not a big krunner user, so I haven't paid much attention to this point.
[11:47] <keffie-jayx> and probably not used by many
[11:47] <bulldog98> system should always work even if no kwallet is installed, since it saves the passes in a file
[11:47] <keffie-jayx> but If bad came to worse the thing wouldn't kill the plasma-desktop
[11:48] <bulldog98> keffie-jayx: me uses it :)
[11:48] <bulldog98> that’s one reason why I switched back to desktop on my netbook
[11:59] <keffie-jayx> Well I just wanted to know if it was a bug, now I know
[11:59] <keffie-jayx> about wireless I will download a dayly build adn try there
[11:59] <keffie-jayx> thanks
[12:10] <bulldog98> didrocks: since when are you a legend? I thought only apachelogger would be our super hero (http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/09/29/didrocks-is-a-legend/)
[12:12] <didrocks> bulldog98: heh, I start to collect achievements, after my name being associated to chuck norris' photo on a previous jono's post :)
[12:13] <bulldog98> didrocks: can you count to infinity? No then you are not cuck norris :P
[12:14] <didrocks> bulldog98: I heard about some american book with all those silly quotes, I think I would need to buy one :-)
[12:14] <bulldog98> didrocks: the easiest way is to make up some :)
[12:15] <didrocks> bulldog98: heh, indeed :)
[12:15] <bulldog98> didrocks: btw is the a #chuck channel?
[12:16] <didrocks> probably :)
[12:45] <rbelem> apachelogger, plasma active code free on 03/10 \o/
[12:51] <apachelogger> rbelem: I do not understand
[12:51] <apachelogger> rbelem: still no UI for UDS? :P
[12:51]  * apachelogger made a fancy new icon
[12:51]  * apachelogger then realized that the fancy new icon is a bit rubbish and might have to redo it :S
[12:52] <apachelogger> didrocks: clearly jono is abusing kubuntu dev titles there
[12:52] <rbelem> apachelogger, not yet :-( the designers are really busy with other stuff, so they had to postpone a little :'(
[12:52] <apachelogger> kk
[12:52]  * apachelogger can't wait :D
[12:52] <didrocks> apachelogger: is there a pattern? what to sue him? I heared it's the way it's dealt now :p
[12:53] <rbelem> apachelogger, they were doing something similar to guidebook
[12:53] <apachelogger> didrocks: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/GettingInvolved/Development#Career-2
[12:53] <rbelem> apachelogger, but more beautiful :-)
[12:53] <apachelogger> rbelem: which is similar to what the UDS app is ^^
[12:53] <apachelogger> actually I was toying with the idea of making the app more generic, good to know that I do not need to do that ^^
[12:53] <rbelem> apachelogger, but with some more features and nice design
[12:54] <apachelogger> guidebook is rubbish anyway
[12:54] <apachelogger> anyhow
[12:54] <apachelogger> checkout
[12:56] <ScottK> didrocks: Does the patch in this latest upload have any upstream review?
[12:56] <ScottK> Mabye fabo could have a quick look at http://launchpadlibrarian.net/81424642/qt4-x11_4%3A4.7.4-0ubuntu6_4%3A4.7.4-0ubuntu7.diff.gz ?
[12:58] <didrocks> ScottK: yes, it was done in collaboration with upstream (slightly different for Qt 4.8) and the upstream bug report just had a status changed
[14:19] <Riddell> bulldog98: does the address bar drop down suggestions work in that new rekonq?
[14:42] <yofel> Riddell: this? http://i.imgur.com/2yfiv.png
[14:44] <Riddell> yofel: that's the one
[14:44] <yofel> k, this is running 0.7.90
[14:44] <Riddell> are you running some sort of Plasma Unity theme?
[14:45] <yofel> huh? nope, just reorganised the panels, and using the Produkt theme
[14:45] <yofel> the default task manager only shows icons when used vertically
[14:45] <yofel> (and the panel isn't wide enough for text)
[15:20] <ScottK> apachelogger: Can we make the Akonadi Server Configuration KCM appear in system settings?
[15:20] <ScottK> Need it for a bug workaround.
[15:25] <ScottK> claydoh: Bug #862483  is another one for your "pile of kdepim woes" collection.
[15:35] <ScottK> Riddell: re your mail on FOSDEM - To which continent are you leaving?
[15:35] <cyphermox> allee: ping.
[15:36] <allee> Where's the code of the pkg  networkmanagement ?   Did find it in ~kubuntu-packagers bzr repos?
[15:36] <Riddell> ScottK: none really, sunny Guadeloupe
[15:36] <allee> cyphermox: pong
[15:37] <cyphermox> allee: essentially the change is just making sure "dh" gets added to the dh key value instead of just the number.
[15:37] <ScottK> Ah.  Nice.
[15:37] <ScottK> What time zone is that in?
[15:39] <allee> cyphermox: ok.  I try to fix it.  I'll contact you when there progress
[15:40] <cyphermox> allee: sure, but I can't merge to that package, you'll need to ask someone here :)
[15:40] <cyphermox> it's three or four lines fix, really straightforward IIRC
[15:40] <allee> cyphermox: have you a patch already?
[15:40] <cyphermox> allee: I did, but I can't find the code anymore
[15:41] <allee> cyphermox: okay.
[15:43] <allee> ScottK: vpnc bug: where the networkmanagement bzr repo?  showsrc only mentions the debian git repo
[15:43] <yofel> allee: apt-get source networkmanagement - there's no branch
[15:43] <ScottK> Dunno.  There may not be one.
[15:43] <allee> yofel: okay thx
[15:44] <yofel> well, lp:ubuntu/oneiric/networkmanagement would work I guess for getting the full package with full history
[15:44] <yofel> hm, nope
[15:45] <yofel> correction, it works, I had a typo
[15:47] <ryanakca> Riddell: You can email the person and tell them its been fixed, should you so wish.
[15:48] <Riddell> ryanakca: which has?
[15:48] <Riddell> ryanakca: ah, amarok, did you just crop it? :)
[15:50] <ryanakca> Riddell: aye.
[15:50] <Riddell> sneaky :)
[15:50] <Riddell> ryanakca: how's the new wiki theme doing?
[15:51] <ryanakca> Riddell: I can prod the sysadmins some more, nothings appeared on the RT since they moved it to the General queue, but I was told they would consider it release critical
[15:52] <Riddell> ah, waiting on sysadmins :(
[15:52] <Riddell> I do dislike RT as a tool
[15:53]  * yofel still waits for jelmer's RT about new bzr + bzr-builder versions on the buildds to be done...
[15:53] <ryanakca> Riddell: See https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=17880
[15:55] <ScottK> yofel: You need to convince Riddell to do a rotation in IS.
[15:55] <Riddell> :)
[15:56] <yofel> in half a year maybe, we need him back for a while first :P
[15:56] <Riddell> ooh, you still want me?
[15:57] <maco> did i walk in at a funny time?
[15:58] <yofel> maco: we're making Riddell feel needed here ;)
[16:00] <Riddell> I'm looking forward to coming back
[16:00] <Riddell> but my goal for the next cycle is to learn French, so I'll only be speaking en Francais, hope that's ok with everyone :)
[16:00] <maco> Riddell: you and aurelien have fun then
[16:01] <agateau> Riddell: fine with me
[16:01] <allee> cyphermox:  replace "n" -> "ndh"  or "n" -> "dhn"  with n out of  1 2 5  ?
[16:01] <cyphermox> allee: dhn
[16:01] <allee> cyphermox: ok.  patching ...
[16:01] <Riddell> agateau: although I don't think I'll ever get into using an azerty keyboard!
[16:03] <cyphermox> allee: something close to this, though it's not tested: http://paste.ubuntu.com/699180/
[16:04]  * bambee proposes wine, cookies and chocolate to the one who will upload kde-workspace-4.7.1-0ubuntu5 into archives
[16:05] <allee> cyphermox: ah, thx.  I've had noticed yet the need for the first hunk
[16:05]  * allee will test
[16:06] <jussi> cyphermox: was it you I was talking to about my 3G modem having issues last UDS? (I doubt you remember, but still, I can but ask)
[16:06] <cyphermox> yeah
[16:06] <cyphermox> allee: also note, it seems to probably have been fixed upstream in a slightly different way: Git commit 8894d0de848c4bad7ae689eba62e3f34089b6510 by Lukas Tinkl
[16:06] <jussi> cyphermox: did anything come of that? can I look forward to my modem working in oneiric? 
[16:07] <ScottK> bambee: I'll look at it.  I'll want whisky instead of wine though.
[16:07] <allee> cyphermox: was checking upstream already, but you're alway a sec faster  :)
[16:07] <cyphermox> jussi: I don't recall which modem it was, but I think it might be working. best is to try it on a livecd :)
[16:07] <ScottK> bambee: ubuntu4 or ubuntu5?
[16:07] <ScottK> I just did bzr pull and got ubuntu4.
[16:07] <cyphermox> allee: that might not be exactly the right commit, but if you look somewhere in June 2011
[16:08] <bambee> ScottK: oh, ubuntu4 yes
[16:08] <bambee> (the last one found in lp:~kubuntu-packagers)
[16:10] <jussi> cyphermox:  twas a gobi2000 - weird thing. but Ill give a livecd a go.
[16:10] <ScottK> Got it.
[16:11] <cyphermox> jussi: oh, right. gobi devices are hit and miss, but I've pushed some fixes that might help
[16:12] <cyphermox> jussi: you'll still need to have the closed-source firmware files (2 of them IIRC) they need to work, and I can't provide those
[16:18] <maco2> my quassel is broken :(
[16:32] <allee> cyphermox: I'm lost in git (git newbee).  Could find the commit.    Can you cherrypick the patch or should be go with your variant?       From scanning git log I wonder if there are more fixes worth picking.  We miss more than 3 month of bug fixes
[16:32] <allee> * could not find
[16:34] <ScottK> bambee: Can you help allee do that cherrypick?
[16:34] <ScottK> I uploaded workspace.
[16:36] <bambee> ScottK: sure
[16:36] <bambee> ScottK: thanks!
[16:36] <ScottK> Thanks.
[16:36] <ScottK> allee: ^^ bambee to the rescue.
[16:36] <allee> bambee: you are my hero!!
[16:37] <allee> bambee, ScottK, cyphermox: when you ever visit the Octoberfest I'll spend you a Mass Bier !!
[16:39] <ryanakca> Riddell: see the last few lines in canonical-sysadmins re: the wiki theme
[16:41] <bambee> allee: well, so you want to cherrypick a patch from upstream to plasma-widget-networkmanagement, right ?
[16:43] <allee> bambee: yes, vpnc is not working in oneiric.  cyphermox has a untested patch http://paste.ubuntu.com/699180/ and later mentioned that upstream solved it differently
[16:43] <allee> bambee: <cyphermox> allee: also note, it seems to probably have been fixed upstream in a slightly different way: Git commit 8894d0de848c4bad7ae689eba62e3f34089b6510 by Lukas Tinkl
[16:43] <cyphermox> well, differently is a big word, it's very similar
[16:43] <cyphermox> that link is wrong btw :)
[16:44] <Daskreech> valorie: hullo/
[16:44] <bambee> http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=networkmanagement.git&a=commit&h=8894d0de848c4bad7ae689eba62e3f34089b6510  <-- so this one
[16:44] <cyphermox> bambee: correct, there should be a fix for the DHGroup key passed to vpnc in plasma-widget-networkmanagement; afaics the commit I was referring to was just a little later than our snapshot
[16:44] <allee> bambee: I did scan git log of networkmanagement.git and notices that there are some changes that might be worth picking too.  (e.g.  vpnc export does also not work at the moment)
[16:46] <allee> bambee: there must be an earlier patch,  because there's already 'dh2' where our version has still '2'.    n -> dhn is the fix
[16:46] <cyphermox> right
[16:49] <bambee> arrff quickgit.k.o is slow v_v
[16:49] <Riddell> Guest91840: maco you are more than a guest here
[16:50] <bambee> looking
[16:52] <bambee> cyphermox: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=networkmanagement.git&a=commitdiff&h=5e19d5bbd46ce19f32b8a038fa5121932e905732
[16:52] <bambee> (DHGroup key passed to vpnc)
[16:55] <bulldog98> qtwebkit 2.2 released
[16:56] <allee> bambee: yes that's a variant of cyphermox patch at http://paste.ubuntu.com/699180/
[16:56] <bambee> this is the next one after our snapshot
[16:58] <allee> bambee: sometimes you guys are too fast :)
[16:59] <allee> bambee: I will test this patch here. Will you have a look at git log for other 'important and save' fixes
[17:00] <bambee> looking
[17:01] <bambee> allee: please test http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=networkmanagement.git&a=commit&h=8894d0de848c4bad7ae689eba62e3f34089b6510   AND http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=networkmanagement.git&a=commit&h=5e19d5bbd46ce19f32b8a038fa5121932e905732 
[17:03] <Guest91840> wrong command!
[17:04] <Guest91840> hrmph nicksrv says my nick is unavailable
[17:05] <shadeslayer> Guest91840: release your nick with /msg nickserv release maco
[17:05] <shadeslayer> should work then
[17:07] <maco> yay!
[17:07] <maco> thanks shadeslayer
[17:07] <bambee> this one would be interesting http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=networkmanagement.git&a=commitdiff&h=785023bf778b7cabbb482cac74b20896a07cb82f
[17:07] <shadeslayer> :)
[17:08] <maco> ScottK: i think it means Riddell will be living in our timezone
[17:08] <ScottK> I wasn't sure if it was this one or one to the east.
[17:08] <maco> i thought one to the east was only in canada
[17:09] <ScottK> Dunno.  Who keeps track of islands in the Carribean.
[17:10] <shadeslayer> A Cartographer :P
[17:12] <shadeslayer> any packaging stuff that needs looking into
[17:12] <shadeslayer> +?
[17:17] <ScottK> shadeslayer: scan KDE git/svn for important stuff to cherrypick.
[17:17] <shadeslayer> alright
[17:21] <bambee> why is there no release for networkmanagement? tags might help
[17:23] <shadeslayer> well, kdepimlibs has a ton of bug fixes i think
[17:27] <allee> shadeslayer: according the changelog ScottK sync changes until 28-Sep already
[17:28] <shadeslayer> ah alright, i was just browsing stuff
[17:32] <allee> shadeslayer: how about krandrtray and it kcm module?   Hope dies last ;)
[17:33] <shadeslayer> allee: alright, i'll have a look at those
[17:35] <shadeslayer> allee: akonadi needs a new upload as well, i see 6 bug fixing commits after the last tag
[17:40] <allee> shadeslayer: akonadi fixes are also very here!! :)
[17:40] <shadeslayer> allee: i'm not sure i understand that statement :)
[17:41] <shadeslayer> are you working on those?
[17:42] <allee> shadeslayer: a) add 'welcome' to my last statement  b)  I don't work on them.  I've two users that are driven crazy  by akonadi 
[17:42] <shadeslayer> :D
[17:43] <shadeslayer> git log --grep tells me the last krandrtray fix was in May, so i think we can leave that out
[17:44] <allee> cyphermox, bambee:  vpnc works again  (I could connect to work)  .  but in syslog vpnc complains error writing /var/run/vpnc/pid   and in fact /var/run/vpnc did not exist  (installed vpnc pkg a sec ago on this system)
[17:44] <shadeslayer> aha, but it misses out on other stuff
[17:45] <allee> cyphermox: I've to leave now.   I test from home once more and send you then the debdiff (I assume late tonight or tomorrow)
[17:45] <allee> bye and thx!
[17:45] <cyphermox> that might be an issue
[17:45] <cyphermox> can you send us what you have now?
[17:46] <bambee> http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=networkmanagement.git&a=commit&h=8894d0de848c4bad7ae689eba62e3f34089b6510   AND http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=networkmanagement.git&a=commit&h=5e19d5bbd46ce19f32b8a038fa5121932e905732 
[17:46] <bambee> I guess
[17:46] <cyphermox> (because late tongiht might mean different things to different people, and final freeze is in 3 hours or so)
[17:46] <bambee> allee: could you cherrypick this one too http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=networkmanagement.git&a=commitdiff&h=785023bf778b7cabbb482cac74b20896a07cb82f ?
[17:47] <bambee> in 3 hours... mhh does not help :\
[17:47]  * debfx notes that we have disabled all nm applet notifications by default
[17:48] <ScottK> All?
[17:48] <bambee> allee: that's too late if you test these patches late tonight
[17:48] <ScottK> bambee: I'll approve it for tomorrow.
[17:48] <ScottK> I'd rather have it tested than just toss it in.
[17:48] <bambee> if it's possible, ok then
[17:49] <shadeslayer> rev 2b65cfd343a0d6b54c19e3df9ab54fe7012c2e70 in kde workspace as well
[17:49] <shadeslayer> ^ ubottu needs to be ported to use git :P
[17:49] <ScottK> shadeslayer: I just uploaded -workspace.
[17:49] <ScottK> Is there even more?
[17:50] <shadeslayer> ScottK: workspace from git?
[17:50] <ScottK> patches
[17:50] <shadeslayer> i have a patch dated 5 hours ago
[17:50] <shadeslayer> https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kde-workspace/repository/revisions/2b65cfd343a0d6b54c19e3df9ab54fe7012c2e70/diff 
[17:50] <ScottK> bambee: ^^^
[17:50] <shadeslayer> incorrectly renders rotated screens
[17:51] <shadeslayer> rather .. fixes incorrectly rendered rotated screens ..
[17:51] <bambee> ScottK: I uploaded kde-workspace-4.7.1-0ubuntu4 three or four days ago... ^^
[17:51] <ScottK> OK.
[17:51] <bambee> this one was not commited yet
[17:51] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Look at what's in ubuntu4 and push additional changes you think are worth it to bzr.
[17:52] <shadeslayer> ok
[17:52] <ScottK> Same with akonadi.
[17:54] <shadeslayer> yeah, i'm doing akonadi first
[17:54] <bambee> shadeslayer: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kde-workspace.git&a=commit&h=d30fa6576204874f67ef1d4787448898789f8d20  + http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kde-workspace.git&a=commit&h=5a902ef7fb248fb156a23adaab7a32162d538378 ? 
[17:54] <bambee> (since you bump kde-workspace, you can cherrypick these patches too...)
[17:55] <shadeslayer> bambee: i haven't gone through the entire thing yet, but allee mentioned krandrtray so i was looking for those first
[17:55] <bambee> np
[17:56] <bambee> that was just a suggestion :)
[17:57] <shadeslayer> yep, i'll probably look at workspace tomorrow after my visa interview, I'm doing akonadi tonight
[20:00] <apachelogger> well then
[20:00] <apachelogger> hello
[20:00] <ulysses> hellllllo
[20:03] <ari-tczew> hello
[20:03] <ari-tczew> have you got oneiric up to dated?
[20:05]  * ulysses still uses Natty
[20:06]  * yofel has up-to-date oneiric
[20:07] <ari-tczew> yofel: can you check whether software based on gtk works already? e.g. nvidia-settings, firefox
[20:07] <yofel> firefox works fine for me, what was the problem with gtk?
[20:08] <ari-tczew> nvidia-settings: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libcanberra-gtk-module.so: undefined symbol: gdk_error_trap_pop_ignored
[20:08] <yofel> works fine here (amd64)
[20:08] <ari-tczew>  /usr/lib/firefox-7.0.1/firefox: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libcanberra-gtk-module.so: undefined symbol: gdk_error_trap_pop_ignored
[20:11] <ScottK> maco: Did your certificate expire?
[20:13] <maco> ScottK: my ssl cert for quassel? yes
[20:13] <maco> i generated a new one today
[20:14] <ScottK> I see you're on your regular nic.  Did you get it fixed?
[20:15] <ari-tczew> yofel: are you still affected by bug 846027 ?
[20:16] <yofel> last time I tried it it was still there, give me a minute to restart the session
[20:17] <yofel> yep still there
[20:17] <yofel> and...
[20:18] <yofel> I lost all my activities???
[20:18] <apachelogger> mac os x lion has activities
[20:18] <ari-tczew> yofel: could you comment something on this bug?
[20:19] <yofel> oh great, knotify doesn't work either
[20:19] <yofel> I'm getting notify-osd like gtk1 theme notifications
[20:19] <yofel> fun
[20:20] <yofel> ari-tczew: great, *now* I'm getting your symbol lookup error
[20:21] <ari-tczew> yofel: bug 862553
[20:22] <yofel> NOW I'm glad we have rekonq
[20:23] <yofel> ari-tczew: do you know if there's an upstream report for bug 846027?
[20:27] <yofel> this sounds somewhat familiar...
[20:27] <yofel>  KActivityManager::self: Activity: Couldn't start kactivitymanagerd:  "Could not find service 'kactivitymanagerd.desktop'."
[20:28] <yofel> oh, I had the kubuntu-active PPA on
[20:28] <ari-tczew> yofel: not yet figured out upstream bug
[20:28] <ari-tczew> yofel: IMO is it plasma bug, what do you think?
[20:29] <yofel> k, lemme get a somehow working desktop back and I'll look at it
[20:30] <ari-tczew> everytime when I want to shutdown my Kubuntu, I get a plasma crash. yofel, do you have it as well?
[20:30] <ari-tczew> and then desktop is restarted - including wrong behavior of 2nd panel
[20:30] <yofel> I think I got one in natty once at shutdown, didn't have time to debug it though
[20:31] <yofel> I don't get any in oneiric
[20:31] <ari-tczew> hmm, idd
[20:31] <ari-tczew> odd *
[20:32] <yofel> well, let's see if the patches from workspace ubuntu4 help in any way
[20:37] <yofel> yay, desktop regained
[20:46] <ari-tczew> do you mean regained - related to bug in libcanberra?
[20:46] <ari-tczew> yofel: ^
[20:47] <yofel> both my libcanberra error (downgraded), and activities (purge kubuntu-active ppa)
[21:01] <maco> ScottK: yes
[21:01] <ScottK> OK.  Good.
[21:02] <maco> i apparently needed to reboot after adding the new certificate because quassel got rather wedged on its ports after i kept retrying to connect
[21:02] <maco> and then it still wasnt working...so i kill -9'd it and manually started it on the command line
[21:02] <maco> with LogLevel=Debug and the debugging flag...and then it worked
[21:02] <maco> *shrug* may have tried to start before the network?
[21:02] <ScottK> There's a typo in the init that debfx fixed for oneric that may be to blame too.
[21:03] <maco> my server's on hardy
[21:03] <maco> no not hardy
[21:03] <maco> lucid
[21:03] <maco> that one
[21:03] <maco> with the lts and stuff
[21:03] <ScottK> I think the typo goes back that far.
[21:03] <ScottK> You should upstartify quassel-core for us.
[21:03] <maco> dude, have you *seen* that init script? *shudder*
[21:05]  * apachelogger wrote that script!!!!!
[21:05] <apachelogger> don't mock me scripting skillz
[21:08] <maco> hi hi hi so
[21:08] <maco> i have a friend. she does a little python and uses kubuntu. 
[21:08] <maco> i know canonical <3 python, but thats mostly on ubuntu right?  does anything pythony happen in kde or kubuntu other than me going "i like pykde!" ?
[21:10] <ScottK> You could conn her into doing the Ubiquity accessibility work you blew off this cycle.
[21:11] <ScottK> There's unfinished work on the printer-applet that's technically upstream work, but comes from Kubuntu.
[21:12] <ScottK> The latter is a matter of resyncronizing the code that's borrowed from the Gnome one, triaging bugs, and working on fixing the ones that are left.
[21:45] <maco> ScottK: ...i did a bad job of bugging luke into teaching me how casper works
[21:45] <maco> (i'm pretty sure casper's not python)
[21:49] <maco> ScottK: why is the release 2 weeks early, btw?
[21:49] <maco> i jaw-dropped at kate a couple days ago about today being final freeze
[22:40] <yofel> JontheEchidna: how about letting muon try to run dpkg --configure -a by itself? Most users won't know that they might need to run it, and it usually doesn't break anything either
[22:44] <JontheEchidna> I could probably make it so that if dpkg fails during an install it would try to run it. Might be a bit hacky, though.
[22:44] <JontheEchidna> iirc synaptic does something similar, with a //HACK: comment right above it :P
[22:44] <JontheEchidna> I'll take a look at it
[22:46] <yofel> yeah, I remember synaptic trying to recover by itself