[00:08] Omg quasseldroid is nice === yofel_ is now known as yofel [01:18] claydoh: quasseldroid? [01:48] DarkwingDuck: yeah!! [01:48] I have a core, and I can connect to it from my phone [02:11] claydoh: I think having a good tutorial on how to move your data aside and then import it into kmail2 would be a really excellent thing. Could you work on that? [02:11] Wow. claydoh's getting all fancy and stuff. [02:11] ++ for quasseldroid though. [02:12] ScottK: yes, that is why I m collecting problems/issues on it, I have seen many in my trials [02:12] Excellent. [02:12] We also need bugs filed upstream too .. [02:12] ScottK: so how to back up is easier up front [02:13] ScottK: I have not collected, that, but there are a few already [02:14] b.k.o has quite a few that is, I have not rounded the relevent ones [02:14] ScottK: i figured since amazon is paying me 50$ for a reasobaly high-end phone, i should use the heck out of it :) [02:24] claydoh: they are paying YOU? [02:27] valorie: 50% amazon gift card!?! on most adnroid phone, offer ened monday [02:27] s/50$/50% [02:27] errr [02:28] ah [02:28] well, my phone is only 6 months old or so anyway..... [02:29] I tend to use them for a few years [02:31] its my first phone, I am addicted to it already, had it 2 days, already want to root it lol [02:32] what did you get? [02:32] * valorie has the htc Thunderbolt/verizon [02:32] i'm debating droid bionic or waiting for droid hd [02:34] valorie: I chose the droid charge over the tbolt (verizon) the amoled screen is quite visible outdoors in the sun, the cameras and cpu are mostly identical [02:34] I should have left verizon, since the reason I bought this was because it's a "world" phone [02:34] was supposed to work in Europe [02:34] and it didn't [02:34] my phone was free, plus the 50 bucks made me jump on it [02:34] nice [02:41] Lol being able to chat on irc while walking to the store is awesome !! [02:42] Being able to chat in irc while walking to the store is awesome!! [02:59] I have the galaxy s [02:59] JontheEchidna, from upstream or our patch set? [03:00] rbelem: We had patched it to use QApt in our large uber-patch, but the whole uber-patch was dropped when the packagekit version went upstream [03:00] I've uploaded a fix [03:01] jjesse_: ping [03:08] guess not [03:27] thx JontheEchidna :-) [07:21] ryanakca: what would you need exactly? Different size? [08:21] yofel: added a review to FFE === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [09:25] Mamarok: Look closely, it's a Windows 7 screenshot :) [09:27] ScottK: sorry, still another Qt upload coming, seems dx can't work coordinated… [09:34] ryanakca: just crop the taskbar and window titlebar away :) [09:59] didrocks: you like to keep the arm builders busy? ;) [10:00] debfx: I'm not the real fan of it in fact :) [10:01] debfx: pitti downgraded the old armel build :) [10:01] didrocks: What's the upload? [10:01] ScottK: fixing a crash in qml [10:01] Ah. Well, fixing crashes is good. [10:03] ScottK: yeah, multiple uploads isn't though :/ [10:05] morning [11:30] hello, just wanted to check, every time I start or resume my wireless network it asks for the passphrase [11:30] is this a known issue [11:30] ? [11:30] this is on Oneiric Beta 2 with all updates up until toda [11:32] also alt f2 does not bring out quicksand does not pop out [11:36] never tried to run krunner by itself and I do not know if it makes sense at all [11:44] yofel: Thanks for taking care of getting the printer-applet fix upstream. [11:45] keffie-jayx: I don't have that problem (wireless) [11:45] keffie-jayx: Are you on plasma-desktop or plasma-netbook? [11:45] ScottK: netbook [11:45] should it make a difference though? [11:45] Instead of alt-f2 use the runner in search and launch. [11:46] keffie-jayx: do you have a systemconnection setup or a userconnection? [11:46] I have a vague recollection we changed it not to have the regular runner working with netbook because there were some issues. [11:46] systemconnection works for me [11:46] bulldog98: I have user connection and it's fine too. [11:46] ScottK: I have to navigate away from my curren window [11:46] ScottK: yeah that’s right [11:46] keffie-jayx: That's a good point. [11:47] bulldog98: I have tried setting both [11:47] hm [11:47] ScottK: I can agree that Quicksand was buggy [11:47] I'm not a big krunner user, so I haven't paid much attention to this point. [11:47] and probably not used by many [11:47] system should always work even if no kwallet is installed, since it saves the passes in a file [11:47] but If bad came to worse the thing wouldn't kill the plasma-desktop [11:48] keffie-jayx: me uses it :) [11:48] that’s one reason why I switched back to desktop on my netbook [11:59] Well I just wanted to know if it was a bug, now I know [11:59] about wireless I will download a dayly build adn try there [11:59] thanks [12:10] didrocks: since when are you a legend? I thought only apachelogger would be our super hero (http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/09/29/didrocks-is-a-legend/) [12:12] bulldog98: heh, I start to collect achievements, after my name being associated to chuck norris' photo on a previous jono's post :) [12:13] didrocks: can you count to infinity? No then you are not cuck norris :P [12:14] bulldog98: I heard about some american book with all those silly quotes, I think I would need to buy one :-) [12:14] didrocks: the easiest way is to make up some :) [12:15] bulldog98: heh, indeed :) [12:15] didrocks: btw is the a #chuck channel? [12:16] probably :) [12:45] apachelogger, plasma active code free on 03/10 \o/ [12:51] rbelem: I do not understand [12:51] rbelem: still no UI for UDS? :P [12:51] * apachelogger made a fancy new icon [12:51] * apachelogger then realized that the fancy new icon is a bit rubbish and might have to redo it :S [12:52] didrocks: clearly jono is abusing kubuntu dev titles there [12:52] apachelogger, not yet :-( the designers are really busy with other stuff, so they had to postpone a little :'( [12:52] kk [12:52] * apachelogger can't wait :D [12:52] apachelogger: is there a pattern? what to sue him? I heared it's the way it's dealt now :p [12:53] apachelogger, they were doing something similar to guidebook [12:53] didrocks: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/GettingInvolved/Development#Career-2 [12:53] apachelogger, but more beautiful :-) [12:53] rbelem: which is similar to what the UDS app is ^^ [12:53] actually I was toying with the idea of making the app more generic, good to know that I do not need to do that ^^ [12:53] apachelogger, but with some more features and nice design [12:54] guidebook is rubbish anyway [12:54] anyhow [12:54] checkout [12:56] didrocks: Does the patch in this latest upload have any upstream review? [12:56] Mabye fabo could have a quick look at http://launchpadlibrarian.net/81424642/qt4-x11_4%3A4.7.4-0ubuntu6_4%3A4.7.4-0ubuntu7.diff.gz ? [12:58] ScottK: yes, it was done in collaboration with upstream (slightly different for Qt 4.8) and the upstream bug report just had a status changed [14:19] bulldog98: does the address bar drop down suggestions work in that new rekonq? [14:42] Riddell: this? http://i.imgur.com/2yfiv.png [14:44] yofel: that's the one [14:44] k, this is running 0.7.90 [14:44] are you running some sort of Plasma Unity theme? [14:45] huh? nope, just reorganised the panels, and using the Produkt theme [14:45] the default task manager only shows icons when used vertically [14:45] (and the panel isn't wide enough for text) [15:20] apachelogger: Can we make the Akonadi Server Configuration KCM appear in system settings? [15:20] Need it for a bug workaround. [15:25] claydoh: Bug #862483 is another one for your "pile of kdepim woes" collection. [15:25] Launchpad bug 862483 in akonadi (Ubuntu) "Unable to read mail after resume due to akonadi hang" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/862483 [15:35] Riddell: re your mail on FOSDEM - To which continent are you leaving? [15:35] allee: ping. [15:36] Where's the code of the pkg networkmanagement ? Did find it in ~kubuntu-packagers bzr repos? [15:36] ScottK: none really, sunny Guadeloupe [15:36] cyphermox: pong [15:37] allee: essentially the change is just making sure "dh" gets added to the dh key value instead of just the number. [15:37] Ah. Nice. [15:37] What time zone is that in? [15:39] cyphermox: ok. I try to fix it. I'll contact you when there progress [15:40] allee: sure, but I can't merge to that package, you'll need to ask someone here :) [15:40] it's three or four lines fix, really straightforward IIRC [15:40] cyphermox: have you a patch already? [15:40] allee: I did, but I can't find the code anymore [15:41] cyphermox: okay. [15:43] ScottK: vpnc bug: where the networkmanagement bzr repo? showsrc only mentions the debian git repo [15:43] allee: apt-get source networkmanagement - there's no branch [15:43] Dunno. There may not be one. [15:43] yofel: okay thx [15:44] well, lp:ubuntu/oneiric/networkmanagement would work I guess for getting the full package with full history [15:44] hm, nope [15:45] correction, it works, I had a typo [15:47] Riddell: You can email the person and tell them its been fixed, should you so wish. [15:48] ryanakca: which has? [15:48] ryanakca: ah, amarok, did you just crop it? :) [15:50] Riddell: aye. [15:50] sneaky :) [15:50] ryanakca: how's the new wiki theme doing? [15:51] Riddell: I can prod the sysadmins some more, nothings appeared on the RT since they moved it to the General queue, but I was told they would consider it release critical [15:52] ah, waiting on sysadmins :( [15:52] I do dislike RT as a tool [15:53] * yofel still waits for jelmer's RT about new bzr + bzr-builder versions on the buildds to be done... [15:53] Riddell: See https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=17880 [15:55] yofel: You need to convince Riddell to do a rotation in IS. [15:55] :) [15:56] in half a year maybe, we need him back for a while first :P [15:56] ooh, you still want me? [15:57] did i walk in at a funny time? [15:58] maco: we're making Riddell feel needed here ;) [16:00] I'm looking forward to coming back [16:00] but my goal for the next cycle is to learn French, so I'll only be speaking en Francais, hope that's ok with everyone :) [16:00] Riddell: you and aurelien have fun then [16:01] Riddell: fine with me [16:01] cyphermox: replace "n" -> "ndh" or "n" -> "dhn" with n out of 1 2 5 ? [16:01] allee: dhn [16:01] cyphermox: ok. patching ... [16:01] agateau: although I don't think I'll ever get into using an azerty keyboard! [16:03] allee: something close to this, though it's not tested: http://paste.ubuntu.com/699180/ [16:04] * bambee proposes wine, cookies and chocolate to the one who will upload kde-workspace-4.7.1-0ubuntu5 into archives [16:05] cyphermox: ah, thx. I've had noticed yet the need for the first hunk [16:05] * allee will test [16:06] cyphermox: was it you I was talking to about my 3G modem having issues last UDS? (I doubt you remember, but still, I can but ask) [16:06] yeah [16:06] allee: also note, it seems to probably have been fixed upstream in a slightly different way: Git commit 8894d0de848c4bad7ae689eba62e3f34089b6510 by Lukas Tinkl [16:06] http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=8894&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 8894 | fixed link order [16:06] cyphermox: did anything come of that? can I look forward to my modem working in oneiric? [16:07] bambee: I'll look at it. I'll want whisky instead of wine though. [16:07] cyphermox: was checking upstream already, but you're alway a sec faster :) [16:07] jussi: I don't recall which modem it was, but I think it might be working. best is to try it on a livecd :) [16:07] bambee: ubuntu4 or ubuntu5? [16:07] I just did bzr pull and got ubuntu4. [16:07] allee: that might not be exactly the right commit, but if you look somewhere in June 2011 [16:08] ScottK: oh, ubuntu4 yes [16:08] (the last one found in lp:~kubuntu-packagers) [16:10] cyphermox: twas a gobi2000 - weird thing. but Ill give a livecd a go. [16:10] Got it. [16:11] jussi: oh, right. gobi devices are hit and miss, but I've pushed some fixes that might help [16:12] jussi: you'll still need to have the closed-source firmware files (2 of them IIRC) they need to work, and I can't provide those [16:18] my quassel is broken :( === maco2 is now known as Guest91840 [16:32] cyphermox: I'm lost in git (git newbee). Could find the commit. Can you cherrypick the patch or should be go with your variant? From scanning git log I wonder if there are more fixes worth picking. We miss more than 3 month of bug fixes [16:32] * could not find [16:34] bambee: Can you help allee do that cherrypick? [16:34] I uploaded workspace. [16:36] ScottK: sure [16:36] ScottK: thanks! [16:36] Thanks. [16:36] allee: ^^ bambee to the rescue. [16:36] bambee: you are my hero!! [16:37] bambee, ScottK, cyphermox: when you ever visit the Octoberfest I'll spend you a Mass Bier !! [16:39] Riddell: see the last few lines in canonical-sysadmins re: the wiki theme [16:41] allee: well, so you want to cherrypick a patch from upstream to plasma-widget-networkmanagement, right ? [16:43] bambee: yes, vpnc is not working in oneiric. cyphermox has a untested patch http://paste.ubuntu.com/699180/ and later mentioned that upstream solved it differently [16:43] bambee: allee: also note, it seems to probably have been fixed upstream in a slightly different way: Git commit 8894d0de848c4bad7ae689eba62e3f34089b6510 by Lukas Tinkl [16:43] http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=8894&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 8894 | fixed link order [16:43] well, differently is a big word, it's very similar [16:43] that link is wrong btw :) [16:44] valorie: hullo/ [16:44] http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=networkmanagement.git&a=commit&h=8894d0de848c4bad7ae689eba62e3f34089b6510 <-- so this one [16:44] bambee: correct, there should be a fix for the DHGroup key passed to vpnc in plasma-widget-networkmanagement; afaics the commit I was referring to was just a little later than our snapshot [16:44] bambee: I did scan git log of networkmanagement.git and notices that there are some changes that might be worth picking too. (e.g. vpnc export does also not work at the moment) [16:46] bambee: there must be an earlier patch, because there's already 'dh2' where our version has still '2'. n -> dhn is the fix [16:46] right [16:49] arrff quickgit.k.o is slow v_v [16:49] Guest91840: maco you are more than a guest here [16:50] looking [16:52] cyphermox: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=networkmanagement.git&a=commitdiff&h=5e19d5bbd46ce19f32b8a038fa5121932e905732 [16:52] (DHGroup key passed to vpnc) [16:55] qtwebkit 2.2 released [16:56] bambee: yes that's a variant of cyphermox patch at http://paste.ubuntu.com/699180/ [16:56] this is the next one after our snapshot [16:58] bambee: sometimes you guys are too fast :) [16:59] bambee: I will test this patch here. Will you have a look at git log for other 'important and save' fixes [17:00] looking [17:01] allee: please test http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=networkmanagement.git&a=commit&h=8894d0de848c4bad7ae689eba62e3f34089b6510 AND http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=networkmanagement.git&a=commit&h=5e19d5bbd46ce19f32b8a038fa5121932e905732 [17:03] wrong command! [17:04] hrmph nicksrv says my nick is unavailable [17:05] Guest91840: release your nick with /msg nickserv release maco [17:05] should work then === Guest91840 is now known as maco [17:07] yay! [17:07] thanks shadeslayer [17:07] this one would be interesting http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=networkmanagement.git&a=commitdiff&h=785023bf778b7cabbb482cac74b20896a07cb82f [17:07] :) [17:08] ScottK: i think it means Riddell will be living in our timezone [17:08] I wasn't sure if it was this one or one to the east. [17:08] i thought one to the east was only in canada [17:09] Dunno. Who keeps track of islands in the Carribean. [17:10] A Cartographer :P [17:12] any packaging stuff that needs looking into [17:12] +? [17:17] shadeslayer: scan KDE git/svn for important stuff to cherrypick. [17:17] alright [17:21] why is there no release for networkmanagement? tags might help [17:23] well, kdepimlibs has a ton of bug fixes i think [17:27] shadeslayer: according the changelog ScottK sync changes until 28-Sep already [17:28] ah alright, i was just browsing stuff [17:32] shadeslayer: how about krandrtray and it kcm module? Hope dies last ;) [17:33] allee: alright, i'll have a look at those [17:35] allee: akonadi needs a new upload as well, i see 6 bug fixing commits after the last tag [17:40] shadeslayer: akonadi fixes are also very here!! :) [17:40] allee: i'm not sure i understand that statement :) [17:41] are you working on those? [17:42] shadeslayer: a) add 'welcome' to my last statement b) I don't work on them. I've two users that are driven crazy by akonadi [17:42] :D [17:43] git log --grep tells me the last krandrtray fix was in May, so i think we can leave that out [17:44] cyphermox, bambee: vpnc works again (I could connect to work) . but in syslog vpnc complains error writing /var/run/vpnc/pid and in fact /var/run/vpnc did not exist (installed vpnc pkg a sec ago on this system) [17:44] aha, but it misses out on other stuff [17:45] cyphermox: I've to leave now. I test from home once more and send you then the debdiff (I assume late tonight or tomorrow) [17:45] bye and thx! [17:45] that might be an issue [17:45] can you send us what you have now? [17:46] http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=networkmanagement.git&a=commit&h=8894d0de848c4bad7ae689eba62e3f34089b6510 AND http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=networkmanagement.git&a=commit&h=5e19d5bbd46ce19f32b8a038fa5121932e905732 [17:46] I guess [17:46] (because late tongiht might mean different things to different people, and final freeze is in 3 hours or so) [17:46] allee: could you cherrypick this one too http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=networkmanagement.git&a=commitdiff&h=785023bf778b7cabbb482cac74b20896a07cb82f ? [17:47] in 3 hours... mhh does not help :\ [17:47] * debfx notes that we have disabled all nm applet notifications by default [17:48] All? [17:48] allee: that's too late if you test these patches late tonight [17:48] bambee: I'll approve it for tomorrow. [17:48] I'd rather have it tested than just toss it in. [17:48] if it's possible, ok then [17:49] rev 2b65cfd343a0d6b54c19e3df9ab54fe7012c2e70 in kde workspace as well [17:49] http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=2&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 2 | Source imported [17:49] ^ ubottu needs to be ported to use git :P [17:49] shadeslayer: I just uploaded -workspace. [17:49] Is there even more? [17:50] ScottK: workspace from git? [17:50] patches [17:50] i have a patch dated 5 hours ago [17:50] https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kde-workspace/repository/revisions/2b65cfd343a0d6b54c19e3df9ab54fe7012c2e70/diff [17:50] bambee: ^^^ [17:50] incorrectly renders rotated screens [17:51] rather .. fixes incorrectly rendered rotated screens .. [17:51] ScottK: I uploaded kde-workspace-4.7.1-0ubuntu4 three or four days ago... ^^ [17:51] OK. [17:51] this one was not commited yet [17:51] shadeslayer: Look at what's in ubuntu4 and push additional changes you think are worth it to bzr. [17:52] ok [17:52] Same with akonadi. [17:54] yeah, i'm doing akonadi first [17:54] shadeslayer: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kde-workspace.git&a=commit&h=d30fa6576204874f67ef1d4787448898789f8d20 + http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kde-workspace.git&a=commit&h=5a902ef7fb248fb156a23adaab7a32162d538378 ? [17:54] (since you bump kde-workspace, you can cherrypick these patches too...) [17:55] bambee: i haven't gone through the entire thing yet, but allee mentioned krandrtray so i was looking for those first [17:55] np [17:56] that was just a suggestion :) [17:57] yep, i'll probably look at workspace tomorrow after my visa interview, I'm doing akonadi tonight === skreech_ is now known as DasKreech [20:00] well then [20:00] hello [20:00] hellllllo [20:03] hello [20:03] have you got oneiric up to dated? [20:05] * ulysses still uses Natty [20:06] * yofel has up-to-date oneiric [20:07] yofel: can you check whether software based on gtk works already? e.g. nvidia-settings, firefox [20:07] firefox works fine for me, what was the problem with gtk? [20:08] nvidia-settings: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libcanberra-gtk-module.so: undefined symbol: gdk_error_trap_pop_ignored [20:08] works fine here (amd64) [20:08] /usr/lib/firefox-7.0.1/firefox: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libcanberra-gtk-module.so: undefined symbol: gdk_error_trap_pop_ignored [20:11] maco: Did your certificate expire? [20:13] ScottK: my ssl cert for quassel? yes [20:13] i generated a new one today [20:14] I see you're on your regular nic. Did you get it fixed? [20:15] yofel: are you still affected by bug 846027 ? [20:15] Launchpad bug 846027 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "strange behavior of second panel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/846027 [20:16] last time I tried it it was still there, give me a minute to restart the session [20:17] yep still there [20:17] and... [20:18] I lost all my activities??? [20:18] mac os x lion has activities [20:18] yofel: could you comment something on this bug? [20:19] oh great, knotify doesn't work either [20:19] I'm getting notify-osd like gtk1 theme notifications [20:19] fun [20:20] ari-tczew: great, *now* I'm getting your symbol lookup error [20:21] yofel: bug 862553 [20:21] Launchpad bug 862553 in libcanberra (Ubuntu) "Latest libcanberra update causes Firefox and Thunderbird to crash on startup" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/862553 [20:22] NOW I'm glad we have rekonq [20:23] ari-tczew: do you know if there's an upstream report for bug 846027? [20:23] Launchpad bug 846027 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "strange behavior of second panel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/846027 [20:27] this sounds somewhat familiar... [20:27] KActivityManager::self: Activity: Couldn't start kactivitymanagerd: "Could not find service 'kactivitymanagerd.desktop'." [20:28] oh, I had the kubuntu-active PPA on [20:28] yofel: not yet figured out upstream bug [20:28] yofel: IMO is it plasma bug, what do you think? [20:29] k, lemme get a somehow working desktop back and I'll look at it [20:30] everytime when I want to shutdown my Kubuntu, I get a plasma crash. yofel, do you have it as well? [20:30] and then desktop is restarted - including wrong behavior of 2nd panel [20:30] I think I got one in natty once at shutdown, didn't have time to debug it though [20:31] I don't get any in oneiric [20:31] hmm, idd [20:31] odd * [20:32] well, let's see if the patches from workspace ubuntu4 help in any way [20:37] yay, desktop regained [20:46] do you mean regained - related to bug in libcanberra? [20:46] yofel: ^ [20:47] both my libcanberra error (downgraded), and activities (purge kubuntu-active ppa) [21:01] ScottK: yes [21:01] OK. Good. [21:02] i apparently needed to reboot after adding the new certificate because quassel got rather wedged on its ports after i kept retrying to connect [21:02] and then it still wasnt working...so i kill -9'd it and manually started it on the command line [21:02] with LogLevel=Debug and the debugging flag...and then it worked [21:02] *shrug* may have tried to start before the network? [21:02] There's a typo in the init that debfx fixed for oneric that may be to blame too. [21:03] my server's on hardy [21:03] no not hardy [21:03] lucid [21:03] that one [21:03] with the lts and stuff [21:03] I think the typo goes back that far. [21:03] You should upstartify quassel-core for us. [21:03] dude, have you *seen* that init script? *shudder* [21:05] * apachelogger wrote that script!!!!! [21:05] don't mock me scripting skillz [21:08] hi hi hi so [21:08] i have a friend. she does a little python and uses kubuntu. [21:08] i know canonical <3 python, but thats mostly on ubuntu right? does anything pythony happen in kde or kubuntu other than me going "i like pykde!" ? [21:10] You could conn her into doing the Ubiquity accessibility work you blew off this cycle. [21:11] There's unfinished work on the printer-applet that's technically upstream work, but comes from Kubuntu. [21:12] The latter is a matter of resyncronizing the code that's borrowed from the Gnome one, triaging bugs, and working on fixing the ones that are left. [21:45] ScottK: ...i did a bad job of bugging luke into teaching me how casper works [21:45] (i'm pretty sure casper's not python) [21:49] ScottK: why is the release 2 weeks early, btw? [21:49] i jaw-dropped at kate a couple days ago about today being final freeze === OffToHades is now known as BarkingFish [22:40] JontheEchidna: how about letting muon try to run dpkg --configure -a by itself? Most users won't know that they might need to run it, and it usually doesn't break anything either [22:44] I could probably make it so that if dpkg fails during an install it would try to run it. Might be a bit hacky, though. [22:44] iirc synaptic does something similar, with a //HACK: comment right above it :P [22:44] I'll take a look at it [22:46] yeah, I remember synaptic trying to recover by itself