=== yofel_ is now known as yofel [02:21] does anyone know how to, when downloading packages with sudo apt-get, to: (1) explicitely say if they are 64 or 32 bit, (2) download even the ones already present in the system [02:21] and (3) put them in a specific folder [02:22] tiago: if you are on a 64 bit repo they will be 64 bit [02:22] apt-get --download-only [02:23] I'm in a 32bit, I want 64 [02:23] tiago: They all go to a specific folder [02:23] tiago: then use a 64 bit repo but most likely you will jsut have to pull them from wget [02:23] from where? [02:25] Daskreech: my computer cpu is 64 bit dual core. I always run 32 bit os's . Does it make any difference if I try a 64 bit operating system? [02:25] g0rs: No. [02:26] g0rs: It might run faster. [02:26] DarthFrog: have you noticed any difference? [02:26] g0rs: I don't do anything that's compute intensive, so no I haven't. [02:26] tiago: packages.ubuntu.com [02:26] g0rs: You can have a small speed boost and can use more memory [02:27] DarthFrog: the computer heats up very fast althought it migth be something to do with a heatsink. [02:27] other than that for a desktop it's not that much different [02:27] g0rs: Time to crack the case and use a vacuum cleaner. [02:27] Clean your air filters, too. [02:27] DarthFrog: I did that a few times :) [02:28] DarthFrog: the design of my laptop is bad. CPU fan is located underneath it. It would have been nicer if they made it sidewards. [02:28] g0rs: Get a laptop cooling pad. [02:29] DarthFrog: I was going to get another computer soon. [02:29] Seems a bit extreme to me. :-) [02:29] DarthFrog: I need two. One for linux and theother for business. [02:29] :) [03:02] hi guys new to kubuntu [03:02] what are the minimum requirements please [03:03] kimmy_x_99, > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubuntu#System_requirements [03:04] thank you [03:05] i have a old laptop [03:05] i suppose best will be xubuntu then [03:05] its has 512 MB memory [03:05] kimmy_x_99: You could also try Lubuntu. [03:06] ok great [03:06] if i try xubuntu [03:06] should i go for 10.04 [03:06] or later [03:06] go for 10.04 LTS [03:07] thanks, I see lununtu is quite slick any feeback [03:08] <[Relic]> how do you kill a process that doesn't want to die [03:08] find the related package that goes with it [03:09] [Relic]: sudo killall [03:09] <[Relic]> nvm, the system monitor simply didn't bother to remove it from the list [03:11] <[Relic]> anyone know of the logitech g300 mouse has been added to the next version yet? [03:26] how can i get the urls for several name packages for a specific architecture, any ideas? [04:35] !netsplit [04:35] netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit === sfears_ is now known as sfears === Freejack is now known as Guest59541 [04:50] hi all. [04:50] how can i check if a program is installed on my system 10.04? [04:53] akis: sudo aptitude show [04:57] ok. thanks. it is not a package. it is an executable file from a cd-rom. the cd's instructions say that is installable in redhat, mandrake and debian. i clicked on file but nothing happened. is it possible to have been installed and issomewhere hiding or it is not installed. actually i don't want to be installed on my system, but how can i check it? [05:05] doyou know the name of the file? [05:07] yes, of course i konw it [05:08] try find / -iname filenameyouknow [05:09] i got permision denied [05:09] that'll happen for a few files [05:09] not all of them [05:09] try find / -iname filenameyouknow 2> /dev/null [05:10] if the permission errors annoy you [05:12] find: paths must precede expression: /dev/null [05:13] works fine here - copy the line you ran into chat [05:14] find / -iname Activate_B1_Linux /dev/null [05:14] you forgot the 2> [05:14] Activate_B1_Linux is the file i am searching if it is installed [05:15] try find / -iname filenameyouknow 2> /dev/null [05:15] oh ok. [05:17] it works. the system returns in prompt line without finding something. is it ok? [05:18] or is it possible to be installed with a diffent name? [05:19] from google there should be an uninstall routine to run just to be sure [05:20] what kind of uninstall routine? and is it possible to have been installed although it is installable on other distributions of linux? [05:20] if it was an installer it could have installed who knows how many files [05:21] from this search - http://www.google.com.au/search?q=activat_b1_linux&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=oz9&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&source=hp&q=activate_b1_linux&pbx=1&oq=activate_b1_linux&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=7876l7876l0l8765l1l1l0l0l0l0l361l361l3-1l1l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=aeb2e6fb8f9caa11&biw=1362&bih=634 [05:24] is it possible to find any files from the time/date of installation? i know exactly the time/date of the installation if actually happened. [05:25] find has those options iirc [05:25] man find [05:26] what do i have to do? [05:28] try find / -cmin "n" where "n" is minutes ago file was changed [05:31] permission denied again! [05:32] of course, but it is just for some files - add the 2> /dev/null to the end of the command again [05:34] the system return only one file. is it possible to put a range of minutes. for example from 600 min to 800 min? [05:35] not that I know of - it won't work a second time [05:35] run it again and that file won't show [05:35] yep that is true. [05:36] does this command show what happened in tha special minute or everything since then? [05:37] it will just show what files were changed within that time [05:38] within that time since now? [05:38] so if you used -cmin 60 it will show files changed in the last 6o min [05:38] oh ok. that's fine. [05:38] sorry I had that wrong [05:39] it showed only one file [05:39] so if you used -cmin 60 it will show files changed 60 mins ago [05:39] oh that is not fine at all! [05:40] how can i see what files have been changed from tha time since now? [05:41] find has a -anewer option but you need a file that was changed before the ones you want to find [05:41] read man find [05:41] in a terminal [05:48] hi, everybody [05:48] anyone knows a server and channel to download series/movies in irc? [05:49] ryzzan: sorry, but that's not a subject we allow to happen here [05:51] Tm_T: sry then... [05:51] =X [05:59] ok thanks. i haved to go now. i will be back. [06:11] Well hello everyone [07:41] try je weh [07:49] is it an executable file for debian/mandrake executable in kubuntu? does any installation happen when double-click to it. i did it but nothing happened. is there any chance that this file wrote anything on my system? and how can i find out if it did? because i prefer not to be installed. === johnflux is now known as JohnFlux [08:08] well === jonas_ is now known as Guest78795 === Guest78795 is now known as j0naslarss0n [08:23] dunya kulakova? :-) [08:24] is it just me or does kde-look.org look strange? all images/background is gone...? [08:25] oh [08:25] something with styles i guess [08:25] maybe server is down [08:26] im new here playing w all the settings [08:26] ah ok .. ty Im trying to edit some content which was impossible .. almost drove me insane. Guess I'll wait then [08:28] dunya don't play with X11 settings though :-) === eric is now known as Guest84826 === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === ocs is now known as faLUCE === ocs is now known as faLUCE [09:29] Hi. I just installed Kubuntu 11.04. I added the PPA repo (add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa), did apt-get update and then apt-get dist-upgrade... and nothing. No updates available. This is strange. [09:29] Did the same config on my laptop here, which brought me from KDE 4.6.2 to 4.6.5. [09:29] Any idea what's wrong here ? [09:30] FYI, I'm using Apt-Cacher as a package proxy on my server. === koalix is now known as ninniuz [09:39] I put a Folder View widget on the desktop. Is there a way to make it appear on only one virtual desktop, rather than all? (KDE 4.4.5, if it matters.) [09:43] Alantas: i know you can have different widgets on different desktops [09:44] Hello, iam trying to install an Logitech Quickcam Express webcam with volume id 046d:0870 in Debian what do i want? [09:45] try /j #debian [09:47] Alantas: System settings/Workspace appearance and behavior/workspace behavior/Virtual desktops you will see check mark to have different widgets on each desktop [09:52] russ_: Looks like the System Settings arrangement has changed since the KDE version I'm using. Mine seems to be under General → Look & Feel → Desktop → Workspace. The only relevant option here seems to be for the Dashboard: "Show desktop widgets" vs "Show an independent widget set". I tried changing it to the latter, but it doesn't seem to have any effect. [09:52] I removed the widget, and saw it gone from all desktops. I re-added it, and it's back on all desktops. === ocs is now known as faLUCE [09:53] ahh im running 4.6.2 [09:54] 4.4.5 here. Picked up kubuntu-desktop for kicks back in February. Guess things have changed since then. Hehe. [09:54] (Still better than running 3.2.3 for *five years*...) [09:54] its got to still be there somewhere maybe? maybe not hehe [09:54] let me check somethin [09:56] hi i have a problem after the last updates in oneiric 11.10 [09:56] !11.10 [09:56] Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) will be the fifteenth release of Ubuntu. Codename announcement here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/?p=646 Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1 [09:56] wait you can help me is general problem.. [09:56] libc6 and libc6:i386 are both install and both is broken [09:57] when i try to give -f install it returns for a missing locale package [09:57] the good folks in #ubuntu+1 will know more about it [09:59] (If libc were broken, I wonder if the system would even boot, let alone get you on IRC...) [10:00] click on the cashew icon on the top right of your desktop and click “zoom out”. Your desktop will be shrunk down, and a menu will appear on the left. Click “configure plasma” and check the box that says “different activity for each desktop”. [10:00] libc is both install [10:00] libc6 and libc6:i386 [10:01] the question first is wich of them i have to keep [10:02] Alantas: does your KDE 4.4.5 have that? [10:02] russ_: Hmm, I see a menu, but it only has: Lock widgets, Shortcut settings, Add panel, Add activity, Zoom out. Plus a little tab in the lower-right of the zoomed-out desktop with things for the desktop itself. [10:03] try zoom out [10:03] That *is* what I see when I zoom out. (Sorry, should've mentioned that.) [10:04] ...However, curiously, I notice that that menu only appears on this one desktop. I wonder if that's the trick? === coaboa|afk is now known as coaboa [10:05] possibly [10:05] possibly try to switch to the other desktop then hit that icon at top letf and hit add widget [10:08] * Alantas plays around with it. [10:09] Apparently you can add more than one desktop wallpaper activity thing. Pretty trippy... [10:09] yeah i do that too [10:10] i also setup mine so that one desktop 1 for my widgets is nothing but working widgets and desktop 2 games and desktop 3 only art related widgets pretty neat [10:10] I can add a widget to a particular one and it'll only appear in that one, but if I zoom back into one, it appears on all workspaces. [10:10] I don't see an obvious way to send a particular activity to a particular workspace. [10:10] did you look in compiz? [10:10] might beable to to be in there [10:11] either that or you can update KDE to 4.6 :) [10:11] I don't know if what I'm using counts as Compiz or not. What I do have is, it's set up where I can push the cursor into the lower-left corner to get a cube view of all workspaces. That's how I noticed the zoom-out menu only appears on the one workspace. [10:12] is there a command to remove one of the pakage without autoremove and depencies? [10:15] *Shrugs* Guess it's not doable in my version. Oh well, not the end of the world, was just curious if/how it'd be done. [10:15] i mean hell you can update to KDE 4.6 [10:16] Then its as easy as System settings/Workspace appearance and behavior/workspace behavior/Virtual desktops you will see check mark to have different widgets on each desktop [10:18] I know I can upgrade, but I don't feel it's worth the trouble right now. [10:18] Thanks for looking, though. :) [10:18] not a problem [10:19] but [10:19] i do beleive compiz can do it [10:20] open term type ccsm [10:21] its got widget layering settings [10:21] 11.9 MB to apt-get that... [10:21] Does anyone know the name of the program in kubuntu that lets you switch between languages? [10:21] liek letting you type in other languages? [10:21] using other sets of characters [10:22] There's a "Regional & Language" thing under System Settings, that I can see anyway. Also a "Keyboard & Mouse" that may be what you're looking for. [10:23] not quite [10:24] its a program, l ets me switch between alphabets using a u.s. keyboard, im trying to use jp text but jp has too many characters for english keyboard [10:24] it also supports chinese and russian [10:24] damn i cant remember the name of it to save my life [10:24] Ah. I thought I saw something to that effect when browsing around... === ocs is now known as faLUCE [10:25] Try right-clicking in the text entry field and look for something about "IM". [10:26] thats not it [10:26] its a program [10:26] pops up neard your clock widget [10:26] shows which alphabet you are currently on [10:27] im searching for it on the internet also, just so much information for windows stuff clogging me search [10:28] It's might be a widget. I looked in mine, though, and I don't see anything to the effect of "show current layout", though. [10:28] * Alantas keeps looking [10:28] erigais: from searching i found [10:28] To easily switch between layouts, install the Keyboard Indicator in one of your panels. Right-click on a panel, select Add to Panel and then select Keyboard Indicator. Once it's installed, you can click on it anytime to switch layouts. [10:29] kk ill try [10:29] hope that works [10:29] I'm also seeing System Settings → Regional & Language → Keyboard layout → "Show indicator for single layout". (But I'm on an old KDE version, so your results may vary.) [10:31] but i also have no idea is this is for Gnome or KDE all i did was just search and found something close to what your looking for lol [10:31] but im sure you can just as easily use a keyboard widget [10:32] Surely there's a standard way to do this. What do Japanese KDE users do? [10:32] they setup their system for JP [10:32] ahh i found it [10:33] its a program called anthy [10:33] and most of the time from within their other clients like chat and IRC you can translate [10:33] use scripts [10:33] well the problem is if the keyboard has english characters, you have to type like, the romaji it goes to the character then you hit enter and get the char [10:33] anthy huh well cool glad you found it :) [10:34] thankyou for the assistance [10:34] :D [10:34] exactly [10:34] Speaking of layouts, I did a full system upgrade (or something) — from KDE — back when I first got kubuntu-desktop going, and it mangled my customized layout and I had to dig up some files to get it back into place. ;_; [10:34] So I'm kinda wary of doing big upgrades. [10:35] Like for spanish á — RightAlt + a [10:35] First discovered this when I logged back in to Xfce. "brb" indeed. :P [10:35] damn hehe [10:36] Mine's based on US International or whatever it is, with dead keys on AltGr. So for me, I hit right alt + semicolon, then a, to get á. [10:37] yeah with dead keys layout [10:37] !info ibus [10:37] ibus (source: ibus): New input method framework using dbus. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.9-0ubuntu3 (natty), package size 384 kB, installed size 3516 kB [10:40] anyone know the hot key to switch to next virtual desktop? [10:41] i use mouse scroll wheel [10:41] For me: Right-click the Pager widget (in the panel) → "Configure virtual desktops" → Switching → "Shortcuts" section will show them and let you edit. [10:41] but i thought it was like shift + right or something [10:42] Mine seems to be set for Ctrl+F1, +F2 etc. I don't *think* I edited those, so those might be the defaults. [10:42] depends on how you have it all setup [10:42] you can make it anything hehe [10:42] could be [10:42] ah yeah it was ctrl f2 etc for me too [10:42] Mostly I use the cube switcher thing. I'm sure it does eventually get old, but that has yet to happen. Wheeee [10:42] defaults [10:42] i like to use default, easier to remember [10:43] if i upgrade [10:43] or use another hd or something [10:43] i love the scroll mouse wheel to switch its fast! [10:43] System Settings → Desktop → Screen edges → lower-left corner set to "Desktop cube". [10:44] My mouse wheel is kinda dodgy, so I'm wary of putting critical things on it. [10:44] bummwer [10:44] Hi, i have a veird problem with desktop effects in Kubuntu Oneiric – here is a screenshot: http://db.tt/Jh3XgFVs Could someone comment? [10:45] and here: http://db.tt/ODZSAJGv [10:45] It *works*, but sometimes it'll trigger when idle, like it doesn't settle into place right away. [10:45] gotcha [10:45] The window decorations are completely distorted. [10:46] This problem disappears if desktop effects are disabled [10:47] Hmm. Try fiddling with the desktop effects options? [10:48] (Which one's Oneiric? 11.10? I can never remember which is which...) [10:48] Yes [10:48] Beta [10:49] for an OS i go with stable only [10:49] apps? sure why not test some betas [10:49] 2011-10. Ubuntu... for the FUTURE! [10:49] * Alantas is on 10.04. LTS + lazy upgrader = win [10:50] haha [10:50] Lucid, I think. [10:50] im very very happy and pleased with 11.04 [10:50] everything worked!!! right from the rip! [10:50] i would drop mac and win for this [10:51] hell i even got winamp working just fine in WINE hehe [10:51] and photoshop [10:51] Would? You haven't already? I kicked Windows aside in 2004. [10:51] would meaning i still dual boot [10:51] i have win 7 ultimate as well [10:51] and a mac [10:52] For Slackware 10.0, which looked like the closest thing to a "neutral" distro to my newbie eyes at the time, but in retrospect was like learning to swim by diving into the deep end of the pool~! [10:53] yeah man i know that feeling i started with slack along time ago and i always wanted to try LFS (Linux From Scratch) i just never did [10:53] (I figured neutral = wouldn't be locked in to any particular distro's ways, but in retrospect, locked me *out* of *all* of them. x_x) [10:53] Used that (and KDE 3.2.3) till 2009. Had been wanting to go to Ubuntu, and did. [10:53] i went from slack to redhat back in the day then tryed debian and suse and all the ubuntus [10:54] I dual-booted for a few months, but eventually went all in. [10:54] (98SE didn't exactly measure up.) [10:54] Only regret was that I didn't do it sooner. [10:55] i cant go all in i have to have mac and win for certain things but hey linux to me is fun and interesting and a challenge is why i like it [10:55] Well, I usually prefer "stable" versions, but to install a stable when a new stable is just around the corner – I was not sure I would like to do the upgrades afterwards [10:56] The only Windows-specific things I have use for, all run in WINE well enough. I've never used a Mac. [10:56] i had a thought the other day wonder when Android OS will come to PC lol [10:56] wonder if theirs a Android emu? [10:57] Linux has everything else I need covered much better than Windows ever has. [10:57] ziogelis77: Well, 11.10 will eventually be stable, but till then, it's not. [10:57] In your position, I'd probably just stick with whatever I'm currently using, and wait till it's officially out before upgrading. [10:57] upgrades arent bad as long as you got the backups :) [10:58] i beleive in clean installs [10:58] but i also beleive you dont HAVE to upgrade unless you just want too [10:59] * Alantas nods. [10:59] If it ain't broke, don't fix it. [10:59] besides upgrading just means more options of certain things i mean if i was a guru total guru in console then console is all i would use [10:59] I ran the same install for five years. You can wait a month. :P [11:00] well said [11:00] I can rock a console when I need to, but for that I just use an xterm or Konsole or the like. [11:00] i might one day just drown myself in console only god knows i need too [11:01] xwin will never touch console anyways its all candy for the sore eyes [11:01] And if I'd waited longer to switch from Slackware to Ubuntu, then my first impression of KDE4 might've been good enough not to send me looking for other DEs and settling on Xfce. :-\ [11:02] Xfce i tyryed [11:02] i tryed BSD and FreeBSD i tryed almost everything [11:02] when Redhat was Redhat i did like that alot though before it became RIpoff Hat [11:03] I swore by KDE3 all those years, and figured I'd make first *buntu contact with Kubuntu, but I was told it's better to install straight Ubuntu and pick up KDE from within that. So I did. Pretty, but sluggish and hard to use. [11:04] ahhh yeah [11:04] That was in 2009. Earlier this year, I was bored and decided to give it another go. It's better than I remembered, but still is kinda sluggish. I don't think this thing would boot from stone-cold to responsive-desktop in under a minute the way it does in Xfce, for example. [11:05] I'm sure I could bludgeon it into working shape with some effort, but it's just so *pretty* with Oxygen and Plasma and the like, so I'm reluctant to do such a thing. :P [11:06] systems will be crazy bogged once you have hundreds of desktop environments installed right now i can boot into KDE and GNOME and ubuntu and ubuntu classic thats it [11:06] gnome sucks [11:06] I'm having fun with the wallpaper rotation thing, and Okteta is the only non-crappy non-console hex editor I've found (you'd think Linux would be *teeming* with awesome hex editors...), and I'm liking Kate's Ruby mode. [11:06] hate hate hate it [11:07] I'm with you on GNOME. I hated it in 2004 when I was first touching base with Linux (used Fluxbox for a while, then settled on KDE3). Hated it in Ubuntu proper (settled on Xfce, which is basically GNOME without the crap). [11:08] KDE 4 is def the pretty shit :) [11:08] I can (and have) spent many hours just fiddling with the appearance of it. [11:08] same [11:09] i just now started to like find pic's of all my hardware online and then make those into icons and try to make all my icons look real as i can [11:10] I need a bigger monitor. 1024x768 *is* on speaking terms with KDE4, but just barely. [11:10] and instead of just showing an icon of a harddrive its actually THAT hdd [11:10] (I'm still using a CRT. Imagine that!) [11:11] im running good 22" flat [11:11] Well, icons are meant to be visible/"read"able at small sizes. A photographic icon would just look like "some device" at typical icon sizes. [11:11] Unless you use huge icons or something. [11:11] yeah you make them a little bigger [11:11] I'd love to get a 1920x1080 flatscreen. [11:13] mine only does HDMI 1680x1050 @ 60Hz [11:13] I'd probably think of multiple drives by their size or their designation (sda, sdb) rather than what the physical drive looks like. Especially since it's hidden in the case most of the time. :P [11:13] im talkign eye candy [11:13] instead of a cheap looking icon [11:13] I ran 1280x1024 on this monitor for a long time. I *still* have slight burn-in of the icon/panel setup I had in KDE3 back in the day. (GNOMEish setup, with launcher icons along the top, and a multi-tiered taskbar along the bottom). [11:14] i use actually really what that thing is for the icon instead of just all the HDD's look the same [11:14] But one day, a year or two back, the monitor decides it doesn't like 1280 anymore. Now the most it can do is 1024. ;_; [11:14] I can remember back in the late 90s when 1024 was the "huge" resolution! Fun to gawk at for a bit before going back to 800x600 where you can pull off more than 8-bit color mode. [11:14] thats still fine [11:15] yeah lol [11:15] Now it's the "get cramped when doing anything with more than one window" mode. ;_; [11:15] i run every game and everything what my monitor's defaulted too 1680x1050 everythinsg nices [11:16] That'd be pretty awesome. [11:16] But I like the idea of that magic number, HD size, 1920x1080. [11:16] but i run 8 gig ram amd phenom II x4 3.2 ATI 5670 HD [11:17] Dunno how well it'll play with the connector I've got, though. Might need a video card too to make it work well. :-\ [11:18] * Alantas is using a hand-me-down machine with onboard video. Works well enough so far. [11:18] i read of some problems with Kubuntu 64bit but so far so good i had no issues [11:18] Hell, TORCS is playable. That's about the most intense graphics I've needed in all these years. Hehe. [11:18] lol [11:19] cant wait for Lutris to get all final [11:19] But I think the connector, that bridges the computer and the monitor, is analog. VGA? [11:19] got it installed now but it dont do shit lol [11:19] *Looks on WP again* Yeah, VGA connector. It's analog, I think. [11:19] yes [11:20] No idea if it'd be nice and crisp on a non-CRT at high resolutions like 1920x1080. [11:20] If so, no problem. But if not... [11:20] thing about CRT vs LSD is Hz [11:20] LCD [11:21] like mine for example i can run everything full maxed out 1680x1050 but only 60hZ [11:21] I can sing the praises of CRT over LCD. But if/when I do get a monitor upgrade, I'd be happy enough with LCD. [11:21] thats all my monitor will do is 60hz [11:21] That's all *mine* will do, too, and it's CRT. LCD at 60 Hz would be an improvement. [11:21] it may do 75 if i go lower res i dont know [11:22] but higher the Hz better the frames in games [11:22] LSD at 60 Hz would be stunning, but I'm content with not trying *that*. :P [11:22] LOL [11:23] shit its 6:23am [11:23] got to be at work at 11am lol [11:23] Oh dear. [11:23] still have to sleep [11:23] looks like 3 hours of sleepage for me [11:23] the only reason i stayed up this late was i wasnt out of beer yet [11:23] lol [11:23] Best get to it. 3 hours of sleep will kick your ass, but not as badly as 0 hours will. [11:24] exactly [11:24] well good night bro [11:24] nite people [11:24] * Alantas waves. [11:25] \m/ \m/ [11:58] I want to change the keybindings in Konsole to make Shift + the number pad keys work differently. I think I can do this in the input tab of the profile editor, but I don't know what names I need to give it to refer to the number pad keys. How do I look those up? [12:02] hello [12:18] hey all [12:20] hi all. i am looking the way i can search my system if a executable file is installed or if this file installed on my system any other files when a double click on it. this file is an executable linux file for debian/mandriva distributions. i search for this file on my system and it doesn't exist. but, how can i be sure that it didn't install any other files? is there any procedure to find it out? Actually i prefer that no file had been installed, but how can i [12:20] be sure that it didn't? help me plz. i 'll appreciate your advices. [12:22] Afaik there is no way to do this -- if you run executable X that installs more files, there is no way to tell what files it installed (if you did no preparations) [12:22] But did i misunderstood your question? [12:23] akis whicn "name of taregetfile" [12:23] Hi. I'm running Kubuntu 11.04. Is there a way to upgrade to KDE 4.6.5 and to leave it at that, e. g. not upgrade to the 4.7.x series ? [12:23] Oh, assuming that the executable works same way in all cases, you can prepare and re-install the thing and figure out what files it installed 'this time' [12:24] in the terminal [12:24] (and btw, searching with locate doesnt work if you have encrypted filesystem ?) [12:25] Activate_B1_Linux [12:26] akis, I repeat , open a terminal and do, which "name of taregetfile" ..it may work [12:27] which is the command? [12:27] yes [12:28] i did "which Activate_B1_Linux" and the system answered nothing. is that ok? [12:32] That means that the file is not at least on your $PATH (see echo $PATH) [12:34] ok. i read already about this command. is there any chance to run under other name. i repeat that the executable file was the one i already mentioned (Activate_B1_Linux) [12:35] Executables generally go under /usr/bin. You could try looking around in there in a file browser. [12:35] Likewise, the other directories in your $PATH. (Type "echo $PATH" in a console. They're separated by ":", such as: "/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:etc".) [12:35] Are you trying to figure out 'what is the name of the program i just installed?' or 'what modifications did the program i just ran do?' [12:37] To figure out what the (installer) program does to your system you might consider running 'strace ' if you all ready did run the 'unknown' installer .. [12:37] both. i am woring if somethnig is installed and if not if it made any modiffications. [12:38] There's probably some `find` black magic you can run, but it's a task unto itself just making heads or tails of its syntax. [12:39] (To look for recently modified files, for example.) [12:40] And evil program can modify those afaik .. [12:41] Yeah, but it has to be evil, and the author would've had to anticipate that. [12:41] But yes, if the program is 'harmless' then i think 'find' is good tool to figure out what files got modified .. [12:41] Alantas: yup [12:43] i am reading man find to find the exact command to search files from now and 24 hours ago. do you maybe know the exact command for this? [12:44] There might be a GUI program that can do the same thing. Probably easier to use. I see an "application finder" under "Utilities" in the KDE menu. [12:44] find -mtime -1 [12:44] (Hell, probably easier to *write* one than use `find`.) [12:45] *Looks in Application Finder* This might be geared more toward package-installed programs than stuff run out in the lawless lands of manually-run install scripts. [12:46] akis, locate [12:47] find -mtime -1 searches last 24 hours? [12:48] The manpage says "-mtime n", which filters for files where "file's data was last modified n*24 hours ago". Which suggests that it should be "-mtime 1", not "-mtime -1" (24 hours in the future). [12:49] I *think* the command would be, to do a system-wide search: find / -mtime 1 [12:49] Or replace "/" with "." to search from the directory you're currently in. [12:51] Alantas: no [12:51] Although the "path" part of the command line synopsis is marked optional, and I dunno what it does if no path is given. The manpage spends more time talking about the many ways to handle symbolic links, and less time talking about the overall approach to using the thing. [12:51] Alantas: read the beginning of the tests section [12:51] Alantas: use the current working dir [12:52]