| TheMuso | maco: Does the accessibility stuff in glade allow for setting relationships between labels and other widgets? | 05:35 |
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| AlanBell | bug 854516 is fix released, which in theory should be the "button" issue in the dash | 07:17 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 854516 in unity-2d "[launcher] LauncherItem's accessibilityName is only evaluated on runtime" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/854516 | 07:17 |
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| AlanBell | http://pad.ubuntu.com/oneirica11y | 08:47 |
| AlanBell | Pendulum: charlie-tca: skaet: I am making a start on an article and release notes for accessibility http://pad.ubuntu.com/oneirica11y | 08:48 |
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| Pendulum | AlanBell: ta! | 10:50 |
| AlanBell | we can nibble away at that up to the release day | 10:52 |
| AlanBell | dunno if the last big fixes made it into todays live CD but they should be in tomorrow | 10:53 |
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| skaet | AlanBell, :) looks good. Would like to reference it from the overview release notes. Is there a predicted link? | 14:21 |
| AlanBell | http://ubuntuaccessibility.wordpress.com/2011/10/13/oneiric-ocelot | 14:23 |
| skaet | AlanBell, coolio. :) | 14:23 |
| AlanBell | unless the "13" bit is wrong! | 14:23 |
| skaet | Thank you. | 14:23 |
| skaet | :) | 14:23 |
| maco | TheMuso: yes | 15:33 |
| maco | TheMuso: thats why i got rid of the code that was doing it programmatically | 15:33 |
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| SeaJay | I just heard that Chromium is replacing Firefox as the default browser in Ubuntu 11.10. Is this the case? I'm getting mixed messages from my Google search. | 18:54 |
| SeaJay | BTW, I didn't hear this from a trustworty source. | 18:56 |
| SeaJay | My concern is that Chromium isn't accessible yet. | 18:56 |
| charlie-tca | SeaJay: some of the derivatives have moved to Chromium, but Ubuntu will have firefox and thunderbird | 18:58 |
| charlie-tca | SeaJay: to put your mind at ease, the changes documentated in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/TechnicalOverview/Beta2 are what will be there. | 18:59 |
| SeaJay | charlie-tca: Ah, thanks! | 18:59 |
| charlie-tca | SeaJay: you are welcome | 19:00 |
| AlanBell | updating my oneiric vm to try typing in the 3d dash with onboard | 21:06 |
| maco | right yeah, should do the thing with the testing the new ubiquity tonight... | 21:07 |
| charlie-tca | running screen-reader install now, here | 21:08 |
| maco | i hope i didnt make it worse :-/ | 21:09 |
| charlie-tca | great! desktop showed up, compiz crashed | 21:10 |
| charlie-tca | Oh, better now. desktop disappeared | 21:10 |
| charlie-tca | Does unity respawn compiz? it has now crashed two times | 21:11 |
| charlie-tca | Hm, fewer crashes than last time I did this | 21:11 |
| maco | im interested in what the Wireless page of Ubiquity will do | 21:13 |
| maco | i see GtkRadioButtons. they do not have atk "labelled-by" settings, BUT their labels are marked as properties of them rather than being separate labels (as was the problem with the partitioner) | 21:13 |
| charlie-tca | No wireless here | 21:14 |
| maco | oh yeah thatd probably require doing a hardware install huh? -_- | 21:16 |
| maco | that might make it time for my netbook to get an upgrade | 21:17 |
| charlie-tca | compiz crash shows fixed 5 hours ago, didn't make this image | 21:19 |
| * AlanBell hits the compiz crash | 22:11 | |
| AlanBell | 2d still starts which is good | 22:12 |
| AlanBell | searching for accessibility works | 22:18 |
| TheMuso | Compiz... *sigh* | 22:22 |
| AlanBell | quite spectacularly broken considering where we are in the cycle | 22:28 |
| charlie-tca | but supposed to be fixed this morning | 22:30 |
| charlie-tca | Hopefully, tomorrow's images will work | 22:30 |
| AlanBell | they should have ubiquity in them at least | 22:31 |
| TheMuso | There was a compiz update in the last 12 hours or so that fixed a *LOT* of crashers... | 22:38 |
| charlie-tca | Yeah, according to the bug report, this crash was fixed about 6 hours ago | 22:38 |
| * TheMuso checks the build status of the latest compiz upload. | 22:39 | |
| TheMuso | Built everywhere. | 22:40 |
| TheMuso | And published. | 22:40 |
| AlanBell | I think that fix broke it all | 22:40 |
| charlie-tca | but no respin for the images | 22:40 |
| TheMuso | But not on images yet. | 22:40 |
| TheMuso | charlie-tca: They don't manually respin unless its a release time. | 22:40 |
| charlie-tca | right | 22:40 |
| AlanBell | bug 862743 | 22:40 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 862743 in unity "Desktop drawn with offset" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/862743 | 22:40 |
| AlanBell | that bug is causing screen corruption and offset desktops and in all probability the crashes we are seeing | 22:41 |
| TheMuso | The compiz/nux/unity stack is too fragile for my liking. | 22:42 |
| AlanBell | compiz used to be pretty solid, but now changing anything makes it crash and it takes out the whole desktop now | 22:44 |
| TheMuso | Yep, used to be written in C, now in C++. | 22:44 |
| TheMuso | Although the language probably doesn't have anything to do with it. | 22:46 |
| TheMuso | However the rewrite certainly could introduce problems. | 22:46 |
| AlanBell | bring back beryl :) | 22:49 |
| TheMuso | lol | 22:50 |
| AlanBell | ooh crap | 22:52 |
| AlanBell | maximising onboard is a very very bad idea | 22:53 |
| charlie-tca | Oh, yeah | 22:54 |
| charlie-tca | There is a bug report about it. very difficult to resize now | 22:54 |
| charlie-tca | AlanBell: Bug 859288 | 22:55 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 859288 in onboard "full-screen onboard keyboard commandeers entire desktop" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/859288 | 22:55 |
| AlanBell | that bug is pretty horrible | 23:06 |
| charlie-tca | Well, at some point, those with the power need to realize the less time given to try a11y, the fewer bugs they get fixed concerning a11y | 23:08 |
| AlanBell | oh no, now onboard starts full screen :( | 23:10 |
| charlie-tca | That's what the bug report said, too | 23:10 |
| AlanBell | however, on the plus side you can start onboard from lightdm and enter the password | 23:10 |
| charlie-tca | but you can't easily get it to resize after it goes full size | 23:11 |
| AlanBell | yeah, don't know what I am going to do about that! | 23:11 |
| AlanBell | I guess when 3d works again I could resize it from there maybe | 23:12 |
| AlanBell | screen reader from lightdm doesn't work | 23:12 |
| AlanBell | high contrast is nice | 23:13 |
| AlanBell | well I am off to bed, hopefully compiz will work tomorrow | 23:17 |
| TheMuso | AlanBell: screen reader from lightdm is known. | 23:32 |
| TheMuso | A bug against the greeter was filed a while back. | 23:32 |
| TheMuso | I referred to that bug yesterday. | 23:32 |
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