[13:57] <evfool> mvo: when you'll have the time, please check bug 862373, it might affect some dist upgrades, and would be worth fixing IMO
[13:57] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 862373 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "update-manager crashed with ImportError in /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/UpdateManager/UpdateManager.py: cannot import name NotEnoughFreeSpaceError (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/862373
[13:58] <mvo> evfool: oh? thanks, I check it out
[15:52] <bdmurray> pedro_: should bug 849415 still be private?
[15:52] <ubot4> bdmurray: Error: Bug #849415 not found.
[15:54] <pedro_> bdmurray, thought i marked it as public, it is now , thanks for pinging :-)
[17:35] <bdmurray> hggdh: I found another typo in ntfs-3g. ;-)
[17:35] <hggdh> heh
[17:36] <hggdh> bdmurray: what are you doing with it? Just curious
[17:36] <bdmurray> hggdh: nothing its used by ubiquity so appears in log files
[17:36] <hggdh> ah. OK, shoot ;-)
[17:37] <bdmurray> "Hopelessly many bad sectors has been detected!"
[17:37] <hggdh> wow. What does it mean? Actually, what SHOULD it mean?
[17:37] <hggdh> like unfortunately?
[17:37] <bdmurray> "A hopeless number of bad sectors have been detected!"?
[17:38] <hggdh> my mind is GPFing trying to parse it as it is written
[17:39] <hggdh> hopeless number is still sort of weird, is it not?
[17:39] <bdmurray> maybe you should read a translation and work back from that ;-)
[17:40] <hggdh> I wonder, French is probably the native language. Perhaps looking at the French translation...
[17:40]  * hggdh goes try ti
[17:40] <hggdh> oh, it is not i18n...
[17:42] <hggdh> bdmurray: why not just s/Hopelessly/Too many/?
[17:43] <bdmurray> hggdh: works for me, I mostly teasing because of upstream's bug tracker
[17:43] <hggdh> yeah. I was thinking about it also...
[17:43] <hggdh> ah well. Will "submit" another one there
[17:44] <hggdh> bdmurray: are you going to open a bug on that? Or should I?
[17:44] <bdmurray> hggdh: no I hadn't planned on it
[17:44] <hggdh> will do it
[17:44] <hggdh> just for the record...
[18:31] <bil21al> i want to attend the cermony of oneirics release can you people tell me what is the process?
[18:48] <penguin42> bil21al: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/1186/detail/
[18:49] <bil21al> tku
[21:52] <jibel> bdmurray, Hey, could you look at bug 808202 or its on pitti's plate ?
[21:52] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 808202 in apport (Ubuntu) "apport wrongly duplicates package installation failure reports. (affects: 14) (dups: 15) (heat: 130)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/808202
[21:54] <bdmurray> jibel: looking
[21:56] <jibel> bdmurray, thanks
[21:56] <bdmurray> jibel: that's something pitti would better be able to handle
[21:57] <jibel> bdmurray, ok, I'll ping him tomorrow. thanks for looking.
[21:57] <bdmurray> there is no duplicatesignature being sent by apport so the retracer is looking at dpkgterminallog to come up with one
[21:57] <bdmurray> or no
[21:57] <bdmurray> its using the Traceback there
[21:57] <bdmurray> which isn't helpful
[21:57] <bdmurray> so we could have update-manager send a DuplicateSignature which would stop this
[21:59] <bdmurray> jibel: it seems similar to the problem in bug 850482 where update-manager's traceback isn't informative enough
[21:59] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 850482 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "update-manager crashed with SystemError in mark_install(): E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. (affects: 12) (dups: 17) (heat: 136)" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/850482
[21:59] <bdmurray> I mentioned this to mvo yesterday
[22:00] <bdmurray> So I think update-manager should give a more informative error message in both of these cases