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| ogra_ | fnop | 14:59 |
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| czajkowski | indeed | 14:59 |
| NCommander | #startmeeting | 15:00 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Thu Sep 29 15:00:03 2011 UTC. The chair is NCommander. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. | 15:00 |
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| * janimo waves | 15:00 | |
| NCommander | [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Meeting/2011/20110929 | 15:00 |
| NCommander | there are no outstanding action items | 15:01 |
| NCommander | [link] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-arm.html | 15:01 |
| NCommander | [link] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-arm-ubuntu-11.10-beta-2.html | 15:01 |
| ogra_ | that doersnt make any sense :) | 15:01 |
| ogra_ | B2 is gone | 15:01 |
| NCommander | argh | 15:01 |
| NCommander | ENEEDCAFFIENE | 15:02 |
| ogra_ | :) | 15:02 |
| NCommander | the burndown chart looks good, we completed pretty much all major work items this cycle | 15:02 |
| NCommander | [action] Everyone to postpone any remaining work items | 15:03 |
| meetingology | ACTION: Everyone to postpone any remaining work items | 15:03 |
| ogra_ | yeah, doko trashes our statisticts | 15:03 |
| ogra_ | i think the postponing happened already | 15:03 |
| ogra_ | i only see three Wi left | 15:03 |
| ogra_ | two from doko, one assigned to the team ? | 15:03 |
| ogra_ | why the heck is that assigned to the team | 15:04 |
| janimo | quite a few of my WIs are testing/research which are not affected by a particular release date | 15:04 |
| GrueMaster | I need to postpone the lava work. Seems the system was reengineered and will require me to rethink how I deploy it (again). | 15:04 |
| ogra_ | janimo, didnt you add the 4M boundary stuff already ? | 15:04 |
| NCommander | I just postedponed my one oustanding work item | 15:04 |
| janimo | ogra_, add it where? I think that was done first in Oneiric | 15:05 |
| ogra_ | janimo, yes, me too, thats why i ask you :) | 15:05 |
| ogra_ | there is an open WI for it | 15:05 |
| ogra_ | align rootfs to 4M boundary on OMAP preinstalled images (debian-cd) | 15:05 |
| janimo | GrueMaster, yes, I had two lava WIs . One took too long for little benefit, the other I just postponed. No more yak-shaving for me | 15:05 |
| infinity | Pretty sure I merged that in debian-cd for janimo months ago. | 15:05 |
| ogra_ | i think i merged code from you that had this | 15:05 |
| ogra_ | or reviwed | 15:06 |
| GrueMaster | heh | 15:06 |
| ogra_ | *reviewed | 15:06 |
| janimo | ogra_, so it is done, not sure where it is to be added. You mean it does not show up in the tracker? | 15:06 |
| ogra_ | janimo, it does, but not assigned to you | 15:06 |
| janimo | that may be because silly syntax in the whiteboard then | 15:06 |
| janimo | ah. weird. Anyway it is done :) | 15:06 |
| * ogra_ will fix that post meeting, i just wanted to be sure it happened | 15:06 | |
| NCommander | anything else here or can I move? | 15:06 |
| ogra_ | move | 15:06 |
| janimo | it happened. OTOH I saw no perceptible speed gain in booting panda with that partition alignment | 15:07 |
| NCommander | [topic] ARM Server Status (NCommander, Daviey) | 15:07 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: ARM Server Status (NCommander, Daviey) | ||
| GrueMaster | ogra_: I'll mark the bug as fix released. | 15:07 |
| ogra_ | yeah, thx | 15:07 |
| NCommander | with the exception of guided partitioning (will cover in image status), I'm very happy with the state of our server images and feelthey are ready for release | 15:08 |
| NCommander | anyone got anything else? | 15:09 |
| ogra_ | Daviey, ?? | 15:09 |
| ogra_ | doesnt look like | 15:09 |
| NCommander | [topic]Kernel Status (cooloney, ppisati) | 15:09 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Kernel Status (cooloney, ppisati) | ||
| ogra_ | audio !!! | 15:10 |
| ppisati | a new omap4 kernel has been pushed yesterday | 15:10 |
| ppisati | with 4460 support and some other goodies | 15:10 |
| ppisati | today the audio fix should go in | 15:10 |
| ogra_ | \o/ | 15:10 |
| janimo | ppisati, also support for pvr is in? | 15:11 |
| janimo | or rather did not regress | 15:11 |
| ogra_ | janimo, i think rsalveti cared for that | 15:11 |
| janimo | ok | 15:11 |
| ogra_ | in the tree we merged | 15:11 |
| ppisati | janimo: the new gfx driver you mean? | 15:11 |
| * rsalveti waves | 15:11 | |
| janimo | not that I have an omap4 to test on but ... | 15:11 |
| janimo | ppisati, yes | 15:11 |
| ppisati | should be a separate pkg, but the kernel we pulled had a couple of reverts to accomodate it | 15:11 |
| rsalveti | janimo: in theory it should work with the driver already available at the ppa | 15:12 |
| rsalveti | just didn't test it yet | 15:12 |
| janimo | ok | 15:12 |
| ogra_ | would be good to know before release if it works ;) | 15:12 |
| ogra_ | but thats still weeks :) | 15:12 |
| ogra_ | janimo, what about ac100 ? | 15:13 |
| janimo | it works | 15:13 |
| ogra_ | do you plan another upload with the quietening patch ? | 15:13 |
| ogra_ | or do we keep that for post release | 15:13 |
| janimo | if there's any more fixes needed they should be batched in an upload | 15:13 |
| janimo | ogra_, what does it quiet exactly? nvec? | 15:13 |
| ogra_ | k, i agree | 15:13 |
| ogra_ | janimo, the horrtible niosy boot | 15:14 |
| janimo | ogra_, I'd rather have it before release. Also enable MD/DM as those were dropped vs your package | 15:14 |
| ogra_ | janimo, k, then go ahead :) | 15:14 |
| janimo | ogra_, hmm, nosiy boot, isn't that taken care of by quiet on the cmdline? | 15:14 |
| janimo | ok, we'll discuss it on ac100 | 15:14 |
| ogra_ | yes | 15:14 |
| ogra_ | but it wasnt acxtually quiet | 15:14 |
| ogra_ | marvins tree has the fix already | 15:15 |
| * janimo needs to check. | 15:15 | |
| * ogra_ is done | 15:15 | |
| janimo | ok, but he also has crazy zcache stuff, so I may need to cherry pick . We'll see | 15:15 |
| rsalveti | ppisati: and remember that to have proper 4460 support we still need to fix bug 851974 | 15:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 851974 in u-boot-linaro (Ubuntu) "FFe: u-boot-linaro 11.09, misc fixes for new silicon and boards" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/851974 | 15:15 |
| ogra_ | zcache needs to be explicitly enabled on kernel cmdline | 15:15 |
| ogra_ | dont bother | 15:15 |
| ppisati | rsalveti: is uboot going to be updated? | 15:16 |
| ppisati | i mean, the pkg in the archive | 15:16 |
| rsalveti | ppisati: it needs to be updated :-) | 15:16 |
| ogra_ | rsalveti, jcrigby is already working on the upload (i acked the bug) | 15:16 |
| ppisati | ok | 15:16 |
| rsalveti | ogra_: great, thanks | 15:16 |
| ogra_ | does he need a sponsor ? | 15:17 |
| * ogra_ forgot to ask | 15:17 | |
| rsalveti | nops | 15:17 |
| ogra_ | k | 15:17 |
| rsalveti | will include the release team then | 15:17 |
| ogra_ | NCommander, ? move ? | 15:18 |
| NCommander | [topic] ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo) | 15:19 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo) | ||
| janimo | nothing to report | 15:19 |
| janimo | currently looking at ido ftbfs | 15:19 |
| NCommander | So the guided partition on omap isa bit of a problem. Specifically, you can't set a device in a partman reciepe. The documentation is misleading since the device{} tag only works for LVM | 15:20 |
| ogra_ | topic ? | 15:20 |
| NCommander | This doesn't fit into ARM porting? | 15:20 |
| ogra_ | i thought you wanted to save it for image :) | 15:20 |
| ogra_ | anyway | 15:20 |
| * ogra_ throws bug 857299 in the room | 15:21 | |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 857299 in banshee (Ubuntu) "banshee window remain white on startup on pandaboard" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/857299 | 15:21 |
| ogra_ | i fear that needs serious caretaking | 15:21 |
| ogra_ | and it happens on ac100 too | 15:21 |
| janimo | ah, banshee again | 15:21 |
| NCommander | That being said, partman-uboot is done, and works extremely well, so it adds sanity checking. I'm unsure though if I should upload it this late (although it will properly add warnings to an unbootable configuration) | 15:22 |
| ogra_ | NCommander, whats its status now (i.e. the package we have in the archive) ? | 15:22 |
| ogra_ | i assume its worse ? | 15:22 |
| NCommander | we have nothing in the archive, I was holding off uploading. Uploading partman-uboot will get the netboot installer to do error checking, but I don't know how to force the installer straight to the manual partitioning screen | 15:23 |
| NCommander | as such there is no error or sanity checking during partitioning on OMAP | 15:24 |
| ogra_ | partman-uboot isnt there from the dove times ? | 15:24 |
| NCommander | oh, no its there | 15:24 |
| NCommander | Theres just no OMAP code in it as of writing | 15:24 |
| ogra_ | and its unusable atm | 15:24 |
| ogra_ | right and we dont support dove | 15:25 |
| ogra_ | upload away ! | 15:25 |
| NCommander | right the current partman-uboot does nothing on OMAP. The new version fixes it | 15:25 |
| NCommander | k | 15:25 |
| NCommander | (actually, I left dove support in incase it ever comes back :-)) | 15:25 |
| NCommander | uploading now | 15:25 |
| ogra_ | awesome | 15:25 |
| NCommander | [topic] ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander) | 15:25 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander) | ||
| ogra_ | well, archive is skewed | 15:25 |
| * NCommander headthunks | 15:25 | |
| ogra_ | up to yesterday they built fine | 15:25 |
| janimo | mx53 boot and installer is very slow | 15:26 |
| ogra_ | hey, x86 skew this time | 15:26 |
| ogra_ | :) | 15:26 |
| janimo | slower than I remember the omap3 to be | 15:26 |
| ogra_ | how is the system after install ? | 15:27 |
| ogra_ | i think we can live with a slow install if the system itself is ok | 15:27 |
| ogra_ | (and with a slow boot fwiw) | 15:28 |
| janimo | ogra_, it worked apart from trying to start ubiquity again. Need to see again with oem-config out | 15:28 |
| * GrueMaster proposes going back to live/installer images for P. | 15:28 | |
| janimo | this was yesterday's image | 15:28 |
| janimo | GrueMaster, +1 | 15:28 |
| ogra_ | GrueMaster, make the install faster than 2h and we can talk | 15:29 |
| janimo | if that measn installers like x86 ubuntu uses | 15:29 |
| ogra_ | it also means extra hours for testing | 15:29 |
| janimo | ogra_, something worth at least investigating. spec? | 15:29 |
| ogra_ | and we will likely have more arches next round again | 15:29 |
| ogra_ | janimo, definitely | 15:29 |
| janimo | ogra_, only if we keep preinstalled. Which is a misnomer as it still asks questions and takes time | 15:30 |
| * ogra_ is all for not diverging (though preinstalled fulfills a need as well) | 15:30 | |
| GrueMaster | The point is we need some way to get off of SD if the system has a better medium available (USB, SATA, etc). | 15:30 |
| infinity | We just need to sort out how to add in-place/resize as an option to d-i. | 15:30 |
| ogra_ | agreed | 15:30 |
| janimo | unlike linaros which is really a dd-able preinstall, albeit without the luxury of picking name for user 1000 | 15:30 |
| infinity | I think I may have a spec for that. | 15:30 |
| NCommander | We'll spec it for UDS | 15:30 |
| ogra_ | yeah, there is a d-i spec for that | 15:30 |
| ogra_ | infinity, did you solve the slideshow issue ? | 15:31 |
| * ogra_ saw all the other fixes but cant remember that one | 15:31 | |
| infinity | ogra_: Fix committed to ubiquity. Was an upload done while I was asleep? | 15:31 |
| ogra_ | i dont think so | 15:31 |
| ogra_ | thanks ! | 15:31 |
| ogra_ | NCommander, move ? | 15:33 |
| NCommander | [topic] QA Status (GrueMaster, mahmoh) | 15:33 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: QA Status (GrueMaster, mahmoh) | ||
| GrueMaster | With the current state of the daily images, I really shouldn't comment. | 15:34 |
| GrueMaster | So much is broken (at least for me). | 15:34 |
| GrueMaster | Server images are fine. Desktop.... | 15:34 |
| ogra_ | desktop up to date from a week ago works relatively fine here on the ac100 | 15:35 |
| GrueMaster | Where to start. yesterday's daily omap4. Oem-config recycles instead of finishing install. One indicator was flash-kernel not syncing befor umount. | 15:36 |
| GrueMaster | Changed flash-kernel, but it doesn't appear to be the only issue. | 15:36 |
| infinity | I can't reproduce that looping business. :/ | 15:37 |
| ogra_ | well, there are a bunch of fixes in the archive already but we didnt get images yet | 15:37 |
| infinity | (I could reproduce the f-k thing, and it's fixed) | 15:37 |
| GrueMaster | Enabled debugging in oem-config only increases the useless messaging by 10-20x. Still no failure indicator, except now it crashes. | 15:37 |
| ogra_ | the looping wont happen if oem-config is uninstalled at the right timwe | 15:37 |
| ogra_ | so thats a moot bug | 15:37 |
| GrueMaster | So why isn't it uninstalling? | 15:37 |
| ogra_ | since the deinstallation shoudl be fixed now | 15:37 |
| ogra_ | preseed issue | 15:38 |
| GrueMaster | But there was no indication. | 15:38 |
| GrueMaster | Nothing in recent logs. | 15:38 |
| ogra_ | inifnity fixed it | 15:38 |
| ogra_ | in live-build i think | 15:38 |
| GrueMaster | If that was the oem-config-gtk, it is in yesterday's image. | 15:39 |
| infinity | Yeah. | 15:39 |
| infinity | But you won't get to oem-config-remove if oem-config is crashing for you. | 15:39 |
| ogra_ | was that supposed to be fixed in yesterdays ? | 15:39 |
| infinity | So, that might still need investigation. | 15:39 |
| ogra_ | oh | 15:39 |
| ogra_ | indeed | 15:39 |
| GrueMaster | And I still don't know why oem-config is crashing. | 15:40 |
| GrueMaster | I have looked through every log. | 15:40 |
| NCommander | anything else? | 15:41 |
| ogra_ | not from me | 15:41 |
| GrueMaster | At any rate, other issues I have been seeing are sound (analog audio device renamed from SDP4430 to Panda in the kernel without alsaucm conf files being updated). And I haven't been able to get much further in daily testing. | 15:42 |
| GrueMaster | Nothing else here. | 15:42 |
| ogra_ | well, and dont expect images for the next two days given the upload rate | 15:42 |
| GrueMaster | I don't expect images until Tuesday, earliest. | 15:43 |
| ogra_ | heh | 15:43 |
| ogra_ | i guess sat or sun images should work again | 15:43 |
| * GrueMaster won't hold his breath. | 15:43 | |
| ogra_ | indeed and i didnt mean to ask you to work on sat or sun :) | 15:44 |
| GrueMaster | If they are there, I may give them a cursory glance over morning coffee. | 15:44 |
| infinity | GrueMaster: The audio device name was reverted. | 15:45 |
| ogra_ | s/was/is just being/ | 15:45 |
| GrueMaster | infinity: I know. I am just reporting it for the meeting minutes. | 15:45 |
| infinity | I'll stick with was, I accpted that last night! | 15:45 |
| GrueMaster | I am actively in that discussion even now during the meeting. | 15:45 |
| infinity | Heh. | 15:46 |
| ogra_ | infinity, well, reading the #ubuntu-arm backlog it is just being changed | 15:46 |
| GrueMaster | And until it is in an image, the issue remains open. | 15:46 |
| ogra_ | anyway | 15:46 |
| ogra_ | NCommander, move :) | 15:46 |
| NCommander | [topic] Linaro Updates (rsalveti) | 15:47 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Linaro Updates (rsalveti) | ||
| infinity | Oh, nevermind, the revert last night was DRM names. I guess we're changing drivers all over the place. :P | 15:47 |
| * rsalveti waves | 15:47 | |
| rsalveti | guess the main things we have to report are kind at ubuntu already :-) | 15:48 |
| rsalveti | the work on the tilt tree, to make it work with 4460 | 15:48 |
| rsalveti | new u-boot-linaro release, fixing 4430 ES2.0 and bringing support for 4460 | 15:48 |
| rsalveti | libjpeg-turbo is now at the archive | 15:48 |
| rsalveti | other than that we have a release today | 15:49 |
| rsalveti | and plan to start moving to oneiric next week already | 15:49 |
| rsalveti | that's most from my side | 15:49 |
| GrueMaster | rsalveti: What changes to u-boot are there on the beagle side? Is it just to sync the source tree? | 15:50 |
| rsalveti | GrueMaster: boot timeout is now 2 secs | 15:50 |
| rsalveti | and generally just code sync with upstream | 15:51 |
| GrueMaster | Ah, good. | 15:51 |
| GrueMaster | 10 seconds was a bit excessive. | 15:51 |
| NCommander | anything else, we're almost out of time | 15:51 |
| NCommander | [topic] AOB | 15:52 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB | ||
| * ogra_ has something | 15:52 | |
| ogra_ | since we have our own ARM track at UDS again now ... and will have to give a summaryx at the end again ... | 15:53 |
| ogra_ | which always costed us half the day to collect on friday ... davidm thought it would be good if we had a closing meeting every day after the last session | 15:53 |
| NCommander | I'll be working at putting together a draft of all server blueprints based off the PBLueprintIdeas Page | 15:53 |
| ogra_ | so everyone will have to write down stuff about the sessions he was in at end of the day | 15:54 |
| ogra_ | tahts all ... just wanted to announce that | 15:54 |
| janimo | ok | 15:54 |
| NCommander | closing the meeting out in 3 | 15:54 |
| NCommander | 2 | 15:54 |
| NCommander | 1 | 15:54 |
| NCommander | #endmeeting | 15:55 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Thu Sep 29 15:55:01 2011 UTC. | 15:55 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-09-29-15.00.moin.txt | 15:55 |
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