=== yofel_ is now known as yofel === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === plars-away is now known as plars === Joeb454 is now known as Shrubby === Shrubby is now known as Joeb454 [14:59] fnop [14:59] indeed [15:00] #startmeeting [15:00] Meeting started Thu Sep 29 15:00:03 2011 UTC. The chair is NCommander. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. [15:00] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [15:00] * janimo waves [15:00] [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Meeting/2011/20110929 [15:01] there are no outstanding action items [15:01] [link] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-arm.html [15:01] [link] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-arm-ubuntu-11.10-beta-2.html [15:01] that doersnt make any sense :) [15:01] B2 is gone [15:01] argh [15:02] ENEEDCAFFIENE [15:02] :) [15:02] the burndown chart looks good, we completed pretty much all major work items this cycle [15:03] [action] Everyone to postpone any remaining work items [15:03] ACTION: Everyone to postpone any remaining work items [15:03] yeah, doko trashes our statisticts [15:03] i think the postponing happened already [15:03] i only see three Wi left [15:03] two from doko, one assigned to the team ? [15:04] why the heck is that assigned to the team [15:04] quite a few of my WIs are testing/research which are not affected by a particular release date [15:04] I need to postpone the lava work. Seems the system was reengineered and will require me to rethink how I deploy it (again). [15:04] janimo, didnt you add the 4M boundary stuff already ? [15:04] I just postedponed my one oustanding work item [15:05] ogra_, add it where? I think that was done first in Oneiric [15:05] janimo, yes, me too, thats why i ask you :) [15:05] there is an open WI for it [15:05] align rootfs to 4M boundary on OMAP preinstalled images (debian-cd) [15:05] GrueMaster, yes, I had two lava WIs . One took too long for little benefit, the other I just postponed. No more yak-shaving for me [15:05] Pretty sure I merged that in debian-cd for janimo months ago. [15:05] i think i merged code from you that had this [15:06] or reviwed [15:06] heh [15:06] *reviewed [15:06] ogra_, so it is done, not sure where it is to be added. You mean it does not show up in the tracker? [15:06] janimo, it does, but not assigned to you [15:06] that may be because silly syntax in the whiteboard then [15:06] ah. weird. Anyway it is done :) [15:06] * ogra_ will fix that post meeting, i just wanted to be sure it happened [15:06] anything else here or can I move? [15:06] move [15:07] it happened. OTOH I saw no perceptible speed gain in booting panda with that partition alignment [15:07] [topic] ARM Server Status (NCommander, Daviey) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: ARM Server Status (NCommander, Daviey) [15:07] ogra_: I'll mark the bug as fix released. [15:07] yeah, thx [15:08] with the exception of guided partitioning (will cover in image status), I'm very happy with the state of our server images and feelthey are ready for release [15:09] anyone got anything else? [15:09] Daviey, ?? [15:09] doesnt look like [15:09] [topic]Kernel Status (cooloney, ppisati) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Kernel Status (cooloney, ppisati) [15:10] audio !!! [15:10] a new omap4 kernel has been pushed yesterday [15:10] with 4460 support and some other goodies [15:10] today the audio fix should go in [15:10] \o/ [15:11] ppisati, also support for pvr is in? [15:11] or rather did not regress [15:11] janimo, i think rsalveti cared for that [15:11] ok [15:11] in the tree we merged [15:11] janimo: the new gfx driver you mean? [15:11] * rsalveti waves [15:11] not that I have an omap4 to test on but ... [15:11] ppisati, yes [15:11] should be a separate pkg, but the kernel we pulled had a couple of reverts to accomodate it [15:12] janimo: in theory it should work with the driver already available at the ppa [15:12] just didn't test it yet [15:12] ok [15:12] would be good to know before release if it works ;) [15:12] but thats still weeks :) [15:13] janimo, what about ac100 ? [15:13] it works [15:13] do you plan another upload with the quietening patch ? [15:13] or do we keep that for post release [15:13] if there's any more fixes needed they should be batched in an upload [15:13] ogra_, what does it quiet exactly? nvec? [15:13] k, i agree [15:14] janimo, the horrtible niosy boot [15:14] ogra_, I'd rather have it before release. Also enable MD/DM as those were dropped vs your package [15:14] janimo, k, then go ahead :) [15:14] ogra_, hmm, nosiy boot, isn't that taken care of by quiet on the cmdline? [15:14] ok, we'll discuss it on ac100 [15:14] yes [15:14] but it wasnt acxtually quiet [15:15] marvins tree has the fix already [15:15] * janimo needs to check. [15:15] * ogra_ is done [15:15] ok, but he also has crazy zcache stuff, so I may need to cherry pick . We'll see [15:15] ppisati: and remember that to have proper 4460 support we still need to fix bug 851974 [15:15] Launchpad bug 851974 in u-boot-linaro (Ubuntu) "FFe: u-boot-linaro 11.09, misc fixes for new silicon and boards" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/851974 [15:15] zcache needs to be explicitly enabled on kernel cmdline [15:15] dont bother [15:16] rsalveti: is uboot going to be updated? [15:16] i mean, the pkg in the archive [15:16] ppisati: it needs to be updated :-) [15:16] rsalveti, jcrigby is already working on the upload (i acked the bug) [15:16] ok [15:16] ogra_: great, thanks [15:17] does he need a sponsor ? [15:17] * ogra_ forgot to ask [15:17] nops [15:17] k [15:17] will include the release team then [15:18] NCommander, ? move ? [15:19] [topic] ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo) [15:19] nothing to report [15:19] currently looking at ido ftbfs [15:20] So the guided partition on omap isa bit of a problem. Specifically, you can't set a device in a partman reciepe. The documentation is misleading since the device{} tag only works for LVM [15:20] topic ? [15:20] This doesn't fit into ARM porting? [15:20] i thought you wanted to save it for image :) [15:20] anyway [15:21] * ogra_ throws bug 857299 in the room [15:21] Launchpad bug 857299 in banshee (Ubuntu) "banshee window remain white on startup on pandaboard" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/857299 [15:21] i fear that needs serious caretaking [15:21] and it happens on ac100 too [15:21] ah, banshee again [15:22] That being said, partman-uboot is done, and works extremely well, so it adds sanity checking. I'm unsure though if I should upload it this late (although it will properly add warnings to an unbootable configuration) [15:22] NCommander, whats its status now (i.e. the package we have in the archive) ? [15:22] i assume its worse ? [15:23] we have nothing in the archive, I was holding off uploading. Uploading partman-uboot will get the netboot installer to do error checking, but I don't know how to force the installer straight to the manual partitioning screen [15:24] as such there is no error or sanity checking during partitioning on OMAP [15:24] partman-uboot isnt there from the dove times ? [15:24] oh, no its there [15:24] Theres just no OMAP code in it as of writing [15:24] and its unusable atm [15:25] right and we dont support dove [15:25] upload away ! [15:25] right the current partman-uboot does nothing on OMAP. The new version fixes it [15:25] k [15:25] (actually, I left dove support in incase it ever comes back :-)) [15:25] uploading now [15:25] awesome [15:25] [topic] ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander) [15:25] well, archive is skewed [15:25] * NCommander headthunks [15:25] up to yesterday they built fine [15:26] mx53 boot and installer is very slow [15:26] hey, x86 skew this time [15:26] :) [15:26] slower than I remember the omap3 to be [15:27] how is the system after install ? [15:27] i think we can live with a slow install if the system itself is ok [15:28] (and with a slow boot fwiw) [15:28] ogra_, it worked apart from trying to start ubiquity again. Need to see again with oem-config out [15:28] * GrueMaster proposes going back to live/installer images for P. [15:28] this was yesterday's image [15:28] GrueMaster, +1 [15:29] GrueMaster, make the install faster than 2h and we can talk [15:29] if that measn installers like x86 ubuntu uses [15:29] it also means extra hours for testing [15:29] ogra_, something worth at least investigating. spec? [15:29] and we will likely have more arches next round again [15:29] janimo, definitely [15:30] ogra_, only if we keep preinstalled. Which is a misnomer as it still asks questions and takes time [15:30] * ogra_ is all for not diverging (though preinstalled fulfills a need as well) [15:30] The point is we need some way to get off of SD if the system has a better medium available (USB, SATA, etc). [15:30] We just need to sort out how to add in-place/resize as an option to d-i. [15:30] agreed [15:30] unlike linaros which is really a dd-able preinstall, albeit without the luxury of picking name for user 1000 [15:30] I think I may have a spec for that. [15:30] We'll spec it for UDS [15:30] yeah, there is a d-i spec for that [15:31] infinity, did you solve the slideshow issue ? [15:31] * ogra_ saw all the other fixes but cant remember that one [15:31] ogra_: Fix committed to ubiquity. Was an upload done while I was asleep? [15:31] i dont think so [15:31] thanks ! [15:33] NCommander, move ? [15:33] [topic] QA Status (GrueMaster, mahmoh) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: QA Status (GrueMaster, mahmoh) [15:34] With the current state of the daily images, I really shouldn't comment. [15:34] So much is broken (at least for me). [15:34] Server images are fine. Desktop.... [15:35] desktop up to date from a week ago works relatively fine here on the ac100 [15:36] Where to start. yesterday's daily omap4. Oem-config recycles instead of finishing install. One indicator was flash-kernel not syncing befor umount. [15:36] Changed flash-kernel, but it doesn't appear to be the only issue. [15:37] I can't reproduce that looping business. :/ [15:37] well, there are a bunch of fixes in the archive already but we didnt get images yet [15:37] (I could reproduce the f-k thing, and it's fixed) [15:37] Enabled debugging in oem-config only increases the useless messaging by 10-20x. Still no failure indicator, except now it crashes. [15:37] the looping wont happen if oem-config is uninstalled at the right timwe [15:37] so thats a moot bug [15:37] So why isn't it uninstalling? [15:37] since the deinstallation shoudl be fixed now [15:38] preseed issue [15:38] But there was no indication. [15:38] Nothing in recent logs. [15:38] inifnity fixed it [15:38] in live-build i think [15:39] If that was the oem-config-gtk, it is in yesterday's image. [15:39] Yeah. [15:39] But you won't get to oem-config-remove if oem-config is crashing for you. [15:39] was that supposed to be fixed in yesterdays ? [15:39] So, that might still need investigation. [15:39] oh [15:39] indeed [15:40] And I still don't know why oem-config is crashing. [15:40] I have looked through every log. [15:41] anything else? [15:41] not from me [15:42] At any rate, other issues I have been seeing are sound (analog audio device renamed from SDP4430 to Panda in the kernel without alsaucm conf files being updated). And I haven't been able to get much further in daily testing. [15:42] Nothing else here. [15:42] well, and dont expect images for the next two days given the upload rate [15:43] I don't expect images until Tuesday, earliest. [15:43] heh [15:43] i guess sat or sun images should work again [15:43] * GrueMaster won't hold his breath. [15:44] indeed and i didnt mean to ask you to work on sat or sun :) [15:44] If they are there, I may give them a cursory glance over morning coffee. [15:45] GrueMaster: The audio device name was reverted. [15:45] s/was/is just being/ [15:45] infinity: I know. I am just reporting it for the meeting minutes. [15:45] I'll stick with was, I accpted that last night! [15:45] I am actively in that discussion even now during the meeting. [15:46] Heh. [15:46] infinity, well, reading the #ubuntu-arm backlog it is just being changed [15:46] And until it is in an image, the issue remains open. [15:46] anyway [15:46] NCommander, move :) [15:47] [topic] Linaro Updates (rsalveti) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Linaro Updates (rsalveti) [15:47] Oh, nevermind, the revert last night was DRM names. I guess we're changing drivers all over the place. :P [15:47] * rsalveti waves [15:48] guess the main things we have to report are kind at ubuntu already :-) [15:48] the work on the tilt tree, to make it work with 4460 [15:48] new u-boot-linaro release, fixing 4430 ES2.0 and bringing support for 4460 [15:48] libjpeg-turbo is now at the archive [15:49] other than that we have a release today [15:49] and plan to start moving to oneiric next week already [15:49] that's most from my side [15:50] rsalveti: What changes to u-boot are there on the beagle side? Is it just to sync the source tree? [15:50] GrueMaster: boot timeout is now 2 secs [15:51] and generally just code sync with upstream [15:51] Ah, good. [15:51] 10 seconds was a bit excessive. [15:51] anything else, we're almost out of time [15:52] [topic] AOB === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB [15:52] * ogra_ has something [15:53] since we have our own ARM track at UDS again now ... and will have to give a summaryx at the end again ... [15:53] which always costed us half the day to collect on friday ... davidm thought it would be good if we had a closing meeting every day after the last session [15:53] I'll be working at putting together a draft of all server blueprints based off the PBLueprintIdeas Page [15:54] so everyone will have to write down stuff about the sessions he was in at end of the day [15:54] tahts all ... just wanted to announce that [15:54] ok [15:54] closing the meeting out in 3 [15:54] 2 [15:54] 1 [15:55] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [15:55] Meeting ended Thu Sep 29 15:55:01 2011 UTC. 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