[01:10] Hi === ab56546unique is now known as exobuzz [06:28] man, lots of love for popey on the -users ML [06:37] great isnt it? [06:40] my solution is just to hold the d key in mutt until the whole folder is red. wonder if it'd work as well for you :) [06:42] heh [06:44] * TheOpenSourcerer wonders how much of the new niceness in Gnome3.2 has made it into 11.10 http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.2/ [06:45] Some neat features in there. [06:46] yeah [07:08] Morning all [07:15] [Jono Bacon] didrocks Is a Legend - http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/09/29/didrocks-is-a-legend/ [07:16] Morning [07:21] morning all [07:22] hens shouldn't say cockadoodledoo [07:22] Ah. Chicken Curry tonight then ;-) [07:23] specky rogan josh [07:25] haha [08:05] Morning peeps :) [08:05] AlanBell: ta [08:11] MORNING lovely peeps [08:12] o/ [08:12] for the record ms office is a royal pain in the you know whatits [08:13] user error ;) [08:13] morning [08:13] Any Gallery3 users? [08:39] Anyone want to write my software docs for me [08:40] I'll trade you? process documenation for customer site visits sub-sahara .. [08:41] popey: The show notes don't mention the backup conversation? [08:41] shauno: Having dealt with people in dubai yesterday...... I think I'm ok [08:41] :( luckily I have a plan B. involving pencils, nostrils, and y-fronts .. [08:42] Wybble? [08:42] the backup convo was interesting. apparently someone completely forgot that their dropbox was versioned, and could be restored from previous on the website ;) [08:43] That would be popey ;) [08:47] oops [08:47] * popey edits [08:49] Morning all! [08:50] good morning [08:50] morning [08:54] fixed [08:56] Morning all o/ [08:57] * daubers gives popey a silver star [08:57] It would be gold, but you've over indented the bullet point :) [08:58] http://lwn.net/Articles/460796/ czajkowski with a cattle prod /o\ [09:00] morning [09:01] Run on sentences make my head hurt [09:01] a lot of communitising going on in that quote [09:02] possibly not czajkowski at her most shakesperian [09:03] SOEing to the max! [09:05] don't taze me bro? [09:05] http://www.zazzle.co.uk/i_fear_the_prod_tshirt-235671257489030494 [09:09] how about I cattle prod ye then eh [09:12] sounds kinky [09:13] * czajkowski peers at daubers no cake for you then [09:13] \o/ I have home made shortbread [09:13] Not really allowed cake at the moment :( [09:14] i am very much allowed cake. please direct all potential daubers cake to me [09:18] Mmmm, death [09:18] I mean cake [09:18] \o/ we have cake [09:19] i just bought 10 cakes for the team [09:19] I have mini jaffa cakes [09:19] I want o be on popey team [09:19] team popey [09:19] :o [09:19] I don't have cake :( [09:19] its a charity cake sale here at work [09:19] there's hundreds of them [09:19] Now I want cake. [09:19] aww nice of you [09:19] * bigcalm ponders a trip to the bakery [09:20] great, now i have to watch cake or death on youtube again [09:21] \o/ [09:22] fixed again daubers [09:22] * daubers gives popey a gold star [09:22] I should never have switched to this window, now I have a strong desire for cake. [09:22] With no options for cake in the area. [09:23] there is no shop? [09:23] Dave2: The reason i'm not allowed cake is because new trousers are expensive :( Stupid fatty cake [09:23] Nope. [09:23] I work in a business park, no shops around. [09:23] I guess Microsoft or Oracle probably have something in one of their buildings, but I doubt I could get that far. [09:24] You give me an image of men in suites pushing each other on swings [09:24] hah [09:25] Dave2, MS and Oraclie have _awsome_ canteens! [09:25] And cisco [09:25] Guess you are in reading business park area then [09:25] I wonder if Hippychick is still on that same train [09:26] fb have free redbull. we have a broken kettle. it's not quite the same :/ [09:26] diplo: yup [09:26] Cisco aren't here though IIRC [09:27] good morning everyone. [09:27] Nah, different park [09:27] We have tesco down the road [09:27] Dave2: You up on TV park? [09:27] Yup. [09:27] They have 3 restaurants in one from memory, serving different countries dishes [09:27] Bootiful food [09:28] * daubers lives the other side of Reading from there [09:28] I guess we do have Tesco just down the road. [09:28] daubers: as do I [09:28] * brobostigon spots pulseaudio 1.0, and wonders. [09:28] Dave2: \o/ small world :) [09:29] (~3 miles from TVP, other side of Reading.) [09:29] Google reckons I'm 6 miles away [09:31] Well, this is as per my bike computer. [09:31] Heh :) Ocasionally I'm down that way for work in the next business park along [09:34] The one beginning with S? [09:34] (With the name I can't remember.) [09:35] Dave2: yeah, suttons park. There's a DC down there I have some servers in [09:43] ah, that's the one [09:50] 1info zenity [09:50] !info zenity [09:50] zenity (source: zenity): Display graphical dialog boxes from shell scripts. In component main, is optional. Version 2.32.1-0ubuntu1 (natty), package size 226 kB, installed size 1180 kB [10:14] Morning all [10:19] * czajkowski hugs davmor2 [10:19] czajkowski: hello sweetie [10:20] hello darling [10:23] any news on when linux.com might be back up ? :( [10:24] Ah, just the fella. Boss ok'd the workplace day thing and thinks it's a good idea. No idea if I'll get to put the train ticket in on expenses or not though :) [10:24] * popey pokes BigRedS [10:24] oimon: week next tuesday [10:24] davmor2: orly? [10:25] oimon: no! [10:25] bigcalm: whats that go to the office? [10:25] bigcalm: cool [10:25] :( [10:25] czajkowski: yep [10:25] czajkowski: and no [10:25] czajkowski: we are organising a workspace day where LRL was at [10:25] czajkowski: davmor2 will tell you all about it :) [10:26] bigcalm: cool [10:26] the lighthouse [10:26] soooooooooooooooooooooo nice a venue! [10:26] I'm looking forward to getting out of the house [10:26] And the Light House don't charge for this? [10:34] *grin* https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bug/862162 [10:34] considering making my own rss feed for these podcasts i have on my system here just to get banshee to list them =\ [10:34] Ubuntu bug 862162 in unity "DBO does not go to sleep when I ask him to" [Critical,Confirmed] [10:34] Haha [11:11] car in for MOT today :-S [11:11] kinda weird that the luggage directory in amazon.co.uk is under bags and accessories, under shoes [11:29] gord: not as weird as them selling that kindle for $79 in the US and £89 in the UK [11:30] actually that sounds fairly normal [11:30] i think the $79 price is with adverts in the lock screens. don't think the UK model is subsidized by ads [11:30] its BS though [11:31] sucktastic [11:31] not that i would ever buy a kindle [11:31] kindle fire = super scary [11:31] is anyone else allowed to use e-ink? [11:31] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmoDLyiQYKw hahaha [11:31] oimon, there are several e-ink ebook readers. e.g. sony [11:32] I think there's a few e-ink readers. the kindle's just the only one that achieved any kind of clout [11:32] its... scary? [11:33] davmor2, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmfHHLfbjNQ [11:33] sucks about the lack of epub format on kindle [11:34] calibre converts just fine though [11:34] Sucks about the prices of Kindle books in the Amazon store [11:34] MartijnVdS: that too! [11:34] sometimes more than the paper editions [11:34] ridiculous [11:34] also found the prices to be fine too, i'm only buying stuff i'm going to read [11:36] I've been far too tempted by the kindle now it's £89 [11:36] the fire sounds like it could be interesting, once someone's unlocked the android on them [11:37] directhex: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4SCSGRVAQE&feature=related [11:38] we need a bot to tell us the description of a youtube link [11:38] hi. just installed a dlink DGE-528T nic, but it's running at 100 instead of 1000. can find other people with same problem but no solution. any clues? [11:41] ethtool says it's running at 100 [11:42] Adriannom: Does ethtool say that it can do 1000 ? [11:42] yup [11:42] daubers: same here [11:43] Adriannom: What happens if you force it to 1G? [11:43] penguin42, also tried ethtool -s eth1 speed 1000, but no change [11:43] is that what you meant? [11:44] Adriannom: Yeh; anything in dmesg about it? [11:44] nothing [11:45] tried a different cable? [11:45] no actually, i'll try [11:45] cat6 should work right? [11:46] nod [11:47] penguin42, ok new cable, still 100 [11:48] Adriannom: What's it plugged into? [11:48] lol! [11:48] the wrong switch [11:48] they look identical [11:48] * penguin42 giggles [11:48] * Adriannom facepalm [11:49] thanks penguin42 [11:49] no problem - and remember, never turn your back on a pair of switches [11:53] good advice penguin42! [11:53] sneaky buggers [11:55] * bigcalm returneth [12:01] you can't set an interface to gigabit. [12:02] the spec only allows speeds over 100 via autoneg [12:03] see the 802.3 spec, 2008 annex [12:03] doesn't mean hardware manufacturers followed the rules ;) [12:04] directhex: Oh that's nasty [12:05] similarly there's no such thing as crossover cable for gigabit. it should justwork, with straight or crossover cable, without caring [12:05] yeh I do like that feature [12:12] does that mean all gigabit devices are auto X-over? [12:13] oimon, if they're fully gigabit-compliant, yes [12:13] think it's called auto-MDIX [12:13] coolio [12:14] bah, just had an amazon market seller cancel my order due to "not enough stock" [12:14] timewaster [12:15] [Kwabena Aning] Setting Up SBT on Ubuntu - http://blog.kaning.co.uk/archives/311 [12:15] amazon marketplace is a wretched hive of scum & vilainy [12:17] directhex: Better than ebay, ime [12:20] Anybody here bought from Mister Solutions? Looking at http://www.mister-solutions.co.uk/lawnmower-blade-balancer--sharpening-stone--piston-stop-4293-p.asp and wondering if I can get the same kit anywhere else [12:20] bigcalm: do you have a grinder? [12:21] dogmatic69: nope [12:21] bench or hand held [12:21] dogmatic69: which is why I'm looking at something like this [12:21] dogmatic69: neither [12:21] ah, well getting a grinder would be better, more uses [12:21] I guess [12:21] * dogmatic69 used to own a sharpening co ;) [12:23] TheOpenSourcerer: AlanBell Either of you around I can pick your brains for a few minutes? [12:23] DJones: give a couple of mins. [12:24] bigcalm: a flap disk + http://www.screwfix.com/p/direct-power-pga115-900w-4-angle-grinder-230v/63218 will do a good job [12:24] Cheers, I'll /msg a query, you may have a rough idea of an answer anyway, if not just say [12:24] 20 quid for an angle grinder? [12:25] Why did I always think they were expensive things? [12:25] well you get £200 + ones, I have that exact one and its good for home / diy stuff [12:26] Fantastic :) [12:27] flap disk might set you back about £4 / £5 but will last long, get about a 180 grit one for the sharpening [12:28] #ubuntu-diy :D [12:28] it seems that gift certificates are tied to amazon.co.uk [12:28] oimon: vs .com? [12:28] maybe because i'm buying through a market seller [12:28] on .com [12:30] .com and .co.uk are totally separate afaik [12:31] i can't believe how hard it is to buy some things in the uk [12:43] oimon: what are you trying to buy? [12:43] child safety things for our house. [12:43] ah [12:43] ebay? [12:44] ebay doesn't have the specific things [12:44] i've had to ship from US [12:44] over 20 quid for a few bits of sticky plastic [12:44] Anyone used Talend in anger? [12:45] :O [12:45] sticky plastic? [12:45] dogmatic69: http://www.amazon.com/burglabar/dp/B00187284A [12:48] us company, maybe not so big here === gnudoc_ is now known as gnudoc [12:57] popey: attention! [12:57] ? [12:58] anyone know if the wyse t50 is any good at video? [12:58] popey: see other channel [13:27] i brought 7 hard drives to work from home to do some secure wiping on them on a spare pc. 3/7 aren't recognised by BIOS...they were working when i left them ! [13:29] did you walk under any giant magnets? [13:30] or get hit by lightning? [13:30] gord: none of the above [13:30] oimon: sata/scsi? [13:30] IDE desktop drives [13:31] thought i would have a clearout of 20GB drives lying around at home [13:31] somehow their bones have rusted while in my drawer, wrapped in anti static bags [13:32] Do they spin up? If you wobble the drive arund connected to the bus it should pull back to level [13:32] Freecycled 4 machines at the weekend. Pulled out 7 pata drives from one of them :o [13:33] daubers: some do spin up, and have had varying success [13:33] If they don't spin up, I'd expect them to have died :) [13:33] i want another drive for my raid setup, but purely because i have an empty bay... feels... wrong [13:33] If they've been in a drawer/cupboard for a while then the grease and stuff on the bearings may have set [13:33] Seen that before [13:34] seems that archiving data onto disks isn't a good idea. [13:34] HDD's don't like being left alone for long periods [13:34] yeah [13:34] oimon: Only a good idea if they're part of a raid and constantly powered [13:34] found 2 buffalo NAS things at work and both had failed [13:34] They're like living breathing beings. Have to feed them and look after them or they die and you feel guilty :( [13:40] daubers: also, "Researchers found that magnetic pulses directed at a certain part of the frontal cortex affected whether people were more willing to fib, or more likely to tell the truth" [13:40] magnets break humans too [13:41] oimon: Also useful for making froggies fly http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1vyB-O5i6E [13:42] randomly tweaking with the brain with TMS can't be good [13:42] s/TMS/RMS/ [13:42] ? === JGJones_ is now known as JGJones [13:44] oimon: Isn't that banned under the geneva convention for being some kind of biological weapon? [13:44] s/that/he [14:04] i wonder if gnome3.2 still doesn't have the minimise button :-\ [14:10] argh, kernel panic :( [14:15] new ram, worked ok for a few hours then x went into safe mode suddenly. rebooted and kernel panic along with "error probing smb1". rebooted a couple of times and it changed to a screen full of errors including stuff like "bad area nosemaphore". should i just send em back or is there something i can try? [14:16] Adriannom: tell it to take deep breaths and make it a cup of tea [14:16] i don't think it can hear me :( [14:16] poor thing must be in shock [14:18] Adriannom: memtest [14:20] So the python ldap bindings seem to be quite nice [14:20] and using those I seem to be able to avoid using stupid stupid ldiffs [14:21] oimon, can't even boot [14:21] i guess i could try cleaning the contacts [14:21] memtest runs from a ubuntu live usb stick [14:21] Adriannom: memtest is another utility that's on the livecd, doesn't boot to a linux desktop to run [14:21] !memtest [14:21] gotcha [14:22] hmmm... nofactoid [14:22] !memtest86 [14:23] booting an ubuntu livecd anyway [14:23] oh... it died [14:23] memtest is on the grub menu before ubuntu boots [14:25] daubers, Really interested in playing with ldap, so if you need any testers when you get to that point [14:25] <-- [14:25] ok, i can get to "boot:" but i can't view any of the help menus to find out what to do cause it dies [14:28] ok so it's as easy as typing "memtest", yay for trial and error [14:28] 100k errors already :( [14:28] thats broken then [14:31] so i take out all but one ram and add, test, add, test until i find the broken ones? [14:31] or is there some indicator to which ones are bad? [14:33] play swapsies and always remove the power cable from the PC before touching components [14:34] i tend to leave the power cable in so i can touch something grounded... [14:35] am i dicing with death? :o === Joeb454 is now known as Shrubby [14:36] argh, gotta take vid card out every time i swap any ram :/ [14:36] Adriannom: umm do you power it off at the wall? [14:36] ram too close [14:37] oimon, um, no... ;o i guess i'll make it a new habit [14:38] current continues to pass through the motherboard even if the PC power switch is off [14:39] making it highly probable that you will fry any components/motherboard unless the power supply is turned off at the wall [14:39] i forgot to do this once on my brothers PC and fried the mobo, had to buy him a new one. after that i always removed the power cable [14:39] :o cheers for the tip oimon [14:40] * penguin42 plays with Fold.it [14:42] my car needs extra £200 of work doing on top of the service+MOT charges..:( [14:43] :( [14:43] brakes always wear out on ford focus [14:43] I'm due a major breakage soon, can't afford it so will have to go without a car when it happens [14:44] Kids will need to elarn to walk, and enjoy riding on buses :) === Shrubby is now known as Joeb454 [14:45] hello [14:49] found the little bugger, thanks guys [14:50] :) [15:15] oimon, my biggest fear is taking my car for a service and being told "your batteries are shot, you need a replacement set" [15:16] diplo: cycling is a fine way to get around [15:16] oh, they've dropped the price on batteries to only £800 plus vat [15:17] Laney, 3 year old and a 5 year old [15:17] Skills are still slightly lacking :/ [15:18] A small lottery win tomorrow would be nice though [15:26] directhex: batteries? what, remote controlled car? [15:26] prius [15:26] ah, lol [15:27] yeah, kids can learn! [15:28] my 1yr old managed to do ctrl-minus on wifey's facebook page today so the text was miniscule [15:29] heh, only my 5 year old allowed on the lappy on his own [15:29] 3 year old has to have me close [15:29] Don't trust him quite enough yet [15:29] :P [15:31] my boy knows how to replay a video on youtube [15:31] and unpause it [15:34] ali1234: ping [15:36] my sprog on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18b7lD-3ywk [15:36] Also XBMC is my eldests new fave toy, come down in the morning.. he has powered the revo on and found kids films and put one on [15:37] heh, nice [15:37] D820 ? [15:37] D630 [15:37] intel gfx [15:38] he prefers the touchpad though [15:38] :) [15:40] I found a shop that still sells null modem cables \o/ mildly shocked === RaycisCharles is now known as BitcoinBroker [15:41] maplin? [15:41] my house? [15:41] o_O [15:41] yeah (so I'm also broke) [15:41] i haven't used a null modem cable for about 3 years [15:41] when I was a lad you got some wires, plugs and a soldering iron [15:41] when i updated the firmware on my hummy [15:41] AlanBell: but you still had to buy valves when they burnt out [15:41] anyone going to floss uk unconference in machnester?http://www.flossuk.org/Events/Unconference2011 === BitcoinBroker is now known as MarquessDeBonBon [15:46] o.O [15:51] hey guys i just made the switch to Linux and had a question about moving things around such as the quick launch slide bar (just for a start) i have been looking for the last few hours online and didnt really come across much is there a program i can get like compiz config or is this kind of thing more or less just coding [15:52] * TheOpenSourcerer finds it funny that AlanBell can say "when I was a lad..." [15:52] * TheOpenSourcerer needs to go and get changed/ready for Digital Surrey. [15:54] I grew up 'up north', so it always sounds completely fake if it's not "when I _were_ a lad .." [15:55] westbrookj: I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe the launch bar is movable (yet?) [15:55] I swear this is the wrong time of year for 26C [15:56] ahh that could be why i cant find anything on it :P [15:57] woo, we're doing final release of unity [15:57] the unity launcher is on the left of the primary monitor [15:57] bigcalm: don't complain...with energy price rises, i want my heating to stay off until mid october! [15:58] oimon: just put on another jumper [15:58] i'm ok...missis+sprog [15:58] and small doggy [15:58] all get cold [16:13] oh that's nifty. ping will actually let me specify eth0 *rubs hands together* [16:23] Grrr. Last.fm is still cutting out after playing for a while (in the middle of tracks). What can I blame? Flash? Bandwidth? [16:29] bigcalm, cheap equipment and poor admin at your isp [16:29] ;) [16:29] That's VirginMedia [16:31] bigcalm: you can only blame VM if you can prove it :D [16:31] that isn't fair [16:31] :/ [16:31] I blame MS for most things [16:31] ;) [16:31] I'd rather not blame anybody and have things just work [16:31] hamitron: I think you'll find most things are Apples faults nowadays ;) [16:32] yeh :/ [16:32] last.fm used to work well on linux. I bet recent updates are causing sillyness [16:32] davmor2, indeed, but I have not got an apple device to lay blame :/ [16:32] bigcalm: but that's the easy way and it means you have nothing to moan at :) [16:32] Heh [16:33] nothing to moan about can actually be really frustrating I've found :/ [16:33] * czajkowski pokes davmor2 [16:33] * davmor2 hugs czajkowski and gives her a biccy [16:34] careful I could eat fingers am so hungry [16:34] why did you have to mention food? :/ [16:35] food [16:35] I want either aspag bol [16:35] or a carbonara [16:35] or an omplette [16:35] ohh roast chicken [16:35] hmm [16:35] I'm kinda hungry [16:35] * AlanBell has a chicken you can roast [16:36] * AlanBell wonders if chickens can go through gender reassignment surgery [16:40] oh my [16:40] just been called.... my meat pie is ready [16:40] ;) [16:40] I'd imagine it's much cheaper to buy the intender gender? my mother obtained a cockrel by asking nicely recently [16:40] bbl o/ [16:46] shauno: they are more expensive when they are older, we got young ones this time (just off the heat lamp), which is cheaper and interesting than point of lay poullets, but there is a risk that they might be little boy chickens [16:47] specky has a couple of days left to shut up and lay an egg [16:53] ah. n oI know she was specifically looking for a big boy to look after the gals. She's in Alaska, so there's a very active foodchain at work [16:54] (I understand eagles have eaten more of her birds than she has) [16:56] eagles being the primary problem because they're on a worryingly short list of things she's not meant to shoot :/ [17:40] whatcha recon, is toast and creamy mushroom sauce from selfpicked porcino mushroom fit for tea? [17:41] let's try [17:42] just the words instantly made me hungry, so i would assume so [17:45] smells divine [17:45] I'll upload a picture for you to drool on [17:46]