[00:40] <nathwill> argh
[00:40] <nathwill> damn all cryptic log files straight to hell
[19:36] <c_smtih> g'day! :D
[19:37] <c_smtih> how is everyone?
[19:53] <bkerensa> good
[19:53] <bkerensa> how are u?
[20:04] <Brian_H> just got a roomba for the office, this thing is neat lol
[20:10] <c_smtih> roomba? what's that?
[20:14] <Brian_H> a robot vacuum
[20:14] <Brian_H> its cleaning my office as we speak
[20:17] <bkerensa> lol
[20:17] <bkerensa> Brian_H: Outsourcing labor to a bot?
[20:17] <bkerensa> :P
[20:17] <Brian_H> feels kinda like I'm living the in the jetsons right now lol
[20:17] <Brian_H> yup cheaper and less exposure than a real person ;) hahhaa
[20:18] <Brian_H> and its not going to take anything or require a key to come in after hours
[20:18] <Brian_H> going to schedule it to run 3x a week :)
[20:18] <bkerensa> Brian_H: How much did yours cost?
[20:18] <Brian_H> this thing knows where its "home"/charger station is at too so when it gets low on juice it heads back and charges up then resumes
[20:19] <bkerensa> I need to reach out and have them send me one
[20:19] <bkerensa> :P
[20:19] <Brian_H> we got the latest edition + lifetime warranty so it was more than a non-lifetime warranty
[20:19] <Brian_H> it was ~500-600 I think (I didn't buy it, someone else did in the office :) )
[20:19] <bkerensa> and it does all your offices?
[20:20] <bkerensa> or you have cubicles
[20:20] <Brian_H> we have offices
[20:20] <Brian_H> :) it deals with cables pretty well too
[20:20] <bkerensa> nice
[20:20] <bkerensa> Can I make it auto start?
[20:21] <bkerensa> like if I wanna put some carpet powder down?
[20:21] <c_smtih> nice, nickname it Robo-vacuum!!!!
[20:21] <Brian_H> yup you can give it times and a weekly schedule
[20:21] <Brian_H> and it just goes back to the charger when its done/not needed
[20:22] <c_smtih> you shall naem it ROBOVACUUM!!! nao! :P
[20:23] <Brian_H> lol
[20:23] <c_smtih> also, I'll be getting that Humble Frozen Synapse Bundle either today or tomorrow.
[20:23] <c_smtih> I shall be enjoying a new RTS game. one unlike any of the others I have tried.
[20:25] <c_smtih> bleh, I hate how my Router's range is so poor.....
[20:25] <Brian_H> cat5e FTW :)
[20:27] <c_smtih> yeah, I like that idea, but I can't have cables running through the hallway, or I'd lose a place to live and these guys would lose there license for proctor care. plus I move this laptop around so much, a cat5e Ethernet cord is useless to me.
[20:28] <c_smtih> I believe you're talking about an ethernet cord, am I wrong?
[20:32] <Brian_H> lol yes you're right
[20:32] <Brian_H> but I'm pretty stationary at work
[20:32] <Brian_H> home is a diff story though :)
[20:32] <bkerensa> wow
[20:32] <bkerensa> =/
[20:32] <Brian_H> so wifi has its place I agree with you
[20:33] <bkerensa> Wifi is for the win
[20:34] <Brian_H> bkerensa: you'll have to let me know how that lifestraw works
[20:34] <Brian_H> it doesn't look like it filters metals, but in a survival situation thats the least of my problems ;)
[20:36] <bkerensa> :D
[20:37] <bkerensa> I have a interview next week
[20:37] <bkerensa> for a internship
[20:37] <bkerensa> :P
[20:37] <bkerensa> of all things
[20:37] <bkerensa> Well as a formality they are calling it a "internship" but essentially I'm just volunteering my time to teach basic and advanced ubuntu classes at FreeGeek
[20:44] <saul_crowe_> are the classes free?
[20:44] <bkerensa> yes
[20:45] <saul_crowe_> sweet....sorry to butt in, just wanted to ask that
[20:45] <bkerensa> saul_crowe_: No problem.... this is a open channel :D we enjoy it when people join in :P
[20:45] <saul_crowe_> How many people usually attend and the demographic?
[20:45] <saul_crowe_> Just curious, I work at a training company
[20:46] <saul_crowe_> and thank you for the warm welcome, i appreciate that
[20:47] <bkerensa> saul_crowe_: Unsure of the exact demo data but I know 15-25 people
[20:48] <saul_crowe_> Woa!  Okay, this is cool
[20:48] <saul_crowe_> i wanted to pitch an idea of teaching linux here
[20:48] <saul_crowe_> ...to the owners
[20:49] <saul_crowe_> Esp. with Windows 8 coming out, seems like they stole the KDE workspace
[20:49] <saul_crowe_> or at least reverse engineered it to a degree
[20:51] <c_smtih> they didn't steal the KDE workspace, they made an DE when they had devs with no creativity. at least in my opinion, so don't take this as fact necessarily.
[20:52] <c_smtih> the KDE plasma desktop looks a heck of a lot better than Win8 imo
[20:52] <saul_crowe_> Oh no doubt about that
[20:52] <c_smtih> but Unity and GNOME3 are cool, too
[20:52] <saul_crowe_> which is why they are modeling it after linux
[20:52] <saul_crowe_> GNOME 3 is going to attract all the new people
[20:53] <c_smtih> heh, shows how desperate MS is getting.
[20:53] <saul_crowe_> everyone essentially has been trained in Unity simply by the smartphone
[20:53] <c_smtih> haven't used Windows for more than 5-6 minutes in around 2 years.
[20:53] <saul_crowe_> unbenounced to them of course
[20:53] <saul_crowe_> yep, me either
[20:53] <c_smtih> Smartphone? never really used one.
[20:54] <saul_crowe_> and I am a windows environment admin
[20:54] <c_smtih> never owned one.
[20:54] <c_smtih> heh, nice.
[20:54] <saul_crowe_> Unity operates like a smartphone really
[20:54] <saul_crowe_> categories and whatnot
[20:54] <c_smtih> if you aren't using Ubuntu 11.10 beta 2, but using Ubuntu 11.04, you're in for a few nice treats in 11.10.
[20:54] <saul_crowe_> anyone who has used an Iphone or droid etc.
[20:55] <saul_crowe_> will def. be able to navigate through unity no prob
[20:55] <c_smtih> the closest I have is a Samsung SGH-A877
[20:55] <c_smtih> and an Ipod Nano 5G.
[20:56] <c_smtih> the Samsung in no way is to my knowledge a Smartphone. but I haven't checked too much into that.
[20:56] <saul_crowe_> Yes!  I heard it was revamped from "Natty"
[20:57] <saul_crowe_> Natty, people complained was TOO simple...lol
[20:57] <Brian_H> I really like it, I'm using the kubuntu edition.  There are still some qwuarks with kde though that need to be ironed out though
[20:57] <c_smtih> yeah, plus, if people prefer, they can now safely install GNOME3 without breaking Unity.
[20:58] <saul_crowe_> I prefer KDE but GNOME is great too
[20:58] <c_smtih> I'm using Ubuntu 11.10 Beta 2 (the Unity version) and openSUSE 11.4
[20:58] <saul_crowe_> Nice
[20:58] <saul_crowe_> i use Kubuntu and Fedora
[20:58] <saul_crowe_> Fedora has Unity
[20:58] <saul_crowe_> I have to say that it IS pretty slick
[20:59] <c_smtih> yep, love the dual-boot setup, ensures that if I install over one OS, I have another that I can use right away, or if the other OS goes corrupt, I can still use the secondary with a quick tweak to GRUB.
[20:59] <Brian_H> I need to get a laptop/device for testing
[20:59] <c_smtih> wait, Fedora has Unity? I thought they had GNOME3.....
[20:59] <Brian_H> unfortunately the work config/setup is unique enough that running bleeding edge doesn't work out so well
[20:59] <c_smtih> in Fedora 15, GNOME3 Shell was the DE.
[21:00] <saul_crowe_> Oh my bad
[21:00] <saul_crowe_> my netbook has Ubuntu with the Natty
[21:00] <saul_crowe_> 11.04
[21:01] <c_smtih> yeah, just checked the Fedora Project site, and Fedora 15 does indeed have GNOME3 Shell
[21:01] <saul_crowe_> My Laptop has Fedora and it is GNOME3
[21:01] <saul_crowe_> you're right
[21:01] <c_smtih> GNOME3 Shell is nice, just takes a bit of getting used to.
[21:01] <saul_crowe_> Back Track 5 is now built on GNOME 3 too isn't it?
[21:02] <c_smtih> well, gonna have to cook dinner in half an hour, yum!
[21:02] <c_smtih> guess I'll get some of my packages installed before I do that, it was nice talking. see ya all later, and at the IRC meeting tomorrow if anyone here is attending it.
[21:03] <saul_crowe_> IRC?
[21:05] <saul_crowe_> Which meeting is that?
[21:21] <bkerensa> Brian_H: Doesnt Linbit give out laptops
[21:22] <Brian_H> yea for work stuff,  still debating if we give them out for personal toying around though ;)
[21:22] <Brian_H> but our infrastructure is pretty honed so running bleeding edge isn't always compatible :/
[21:23] <Brian_H> we'll see, maybe santa will bring me one lol
[21:44] <bkerensa> I wish tgm4883 was about
[22:07]  * tgm4883 looks in
[22:07]  * tgm4883 trips bkerensa 
[22:20] <bkerensa> lol
[22:20] <bkerensa> tgm4883: Should I be worried about BOINC making my new laptop run hot?
[22:23] <jrebu> bkerensa: what are you using BOINC for, out of curiosity.
[22:23] <jrebu> ^ pretend there was a question mark somewhere
[22:34] <bkerensa> jrebu: For WCG
[23:03] <bkerensa> Brian_H we need to setup a Ubuntu Hour sometime soon
[23:03] <bkerensa> so the guys and gals (if their are any) can get together for some drinks
[23:03] <bkerensa> :D
[23:03] <Brian_H> I'm all for it man
[23:04] <Brian_H> I'll be out till the 15th, but if you name a place I'll show up
[23:04] <Brian_H> oct 6th-15th
[23:05] <bkerensa> That would work
[23:05] <bkerensa> Brian_H do you like sushi? Me and nathwill do :)
[23:05] <nathwill> hellz yeah
[23:06] <Brian_H> not so much, but the woman does like sake ;)
[23:06] <bkerensa> nathwill: speaking of it there is a buffet in Tigard that makes Sushi as good as that place we went
[23:06] <bkerensa> =o selection isnt huge but they have 13-14 types
[23:06] <nathwill> excellent
[23:06]  * bkerensa might hit them up tomorrow 
[23:07] <nathwill> haha, jerk. i'll be orphaned in the country
[23:07] <bkerensa> LOL
[23:07] <bkerensa> buy some before you leave and bring dry ice
[23:07] <bkerensa> :D
[23:08] <nathwill> i wouldn't trust sushi from hicksville, except to help me commit hari kiri
[23:08] <bkerensa> Tigard is hicksville?
[23:09] <bkerensa> well put it this way... The guys at the Koji we went to were Latinos making sushi :D the guys in Tigard are atleast Japanese :D
[23:10] <nathwill> heh
[23:10] <nathwill> no, where i'm going down south is hicksville
[23:10] <nathwill> tigard is fine
[23:10] <bkerensa> Indeed
[23:11] <bkerensa> Roseburg heh
[23:11] <nathwill> it's worse than that
[23:11] <bkerensa> thats across from where my grandmother lives
[23:11] <nathwill> it's Glide
[23:11] <bkerensa> near Drain, OR
[23:11] <bkerensa> LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
[23:11] <bkerensa> GLIDE
[23:11] <nathwill> which is the asshole of Roseburg
[23:11] <bkerensa> their HS burned down
[23:11] <nathwill> yeah, we were down visiting her folks when it happened
[23:11] <nathwill> no connection
[23:11] <nathwill> *cough*
[23:11] <bkerensa> my fiancee's brother lived there for awhile
[23:11] <bkerensa> LOL
[23:11] <bkerensa> with her dad
[23:11] <nathwill> huh
[23:12] <bkerensa> I hear nothing but bad things
[23:12] <bkerensa> :D
[23:12] <nathwill> yeah, i dunno why anyone would
[23:12] <nathwill> not anyone who didn't grow up there or isn't retired anyways
[23:12] <bkerensa> apparently they dont have any broadband
[23:12] <nathwill> it's not too bad if you're retired i think
[23:12] <nathwill> yeah. satellite/dsl ftw
[23:12] <bkerensa> LOL
[23:12] <bkerensa> no cable tv right? just netflix by dvd
[23:13] <nathwill> they've got satellite
[23:13] <bkerensa> I heard the cable company closed down shop
[23:13] <nathwill> which is bloody expensive as hell
[23:13] <bkerensa> oh cool
[23:13] <bkerensa> yeah satellite is bad
[23:13] <nathwill> because her dad is stubborn as hell and won't give up his ENORMOUS satellite dish for one of the smaller ones
[23:13] <bkerensa> I had it in SF for awhile and they always had weird issues like price debates with MTV
[23:14] <bkerensa> LOL
[23:14] <bkerensa> does the size of a dish change price?
[23:14] <bkerensa> :D
[23:14] <bkerensa> nathwill: Dont fret... I have to go to Salem in November for like a week
[23:14] <bkerensa> =/
[23:15] <nathwill> well apparently it does. he has to use a really old receiver. when his receiver broke he had to shop garage sales to find a replacement
[23:15] <bkerensa> She insists on doing a family thanksgiving.... I was like AGH cant we just cook a turkey and buy pies and such?
[23:15] <nathwill> because the new ones don't work w/ the monster dish
[23:15] <nathwill> yeah...
[23:15] <nathwill> family, ugh
[23:15] <bkerensa> Oh nice... @Cloiudflare just DM'ed me they sent me a box of t-shirts :) mighty friendly of them
[23:16] <bkerensa> UserVoice sent me two t-shirts today... 4 note pads... stickers.. pens and 5 packs of orange Trident gum :D
[23:18] <nathwill> that is excellent
[23:18] <bkerensa> yeah I like Gum :D
[23:24] <nathwill> alrighty, i'm bailing. gotta hit the road :( y'all have a good one. i'll be back if the internet is tolerable down there.
[23:26] <bkerensa> =o