GeekyAdamhio, anyone up?01:00
WiCkD1I am but I have to go...need to go home..work time is over! :)01:03
WiCkD1ill be back tomorrow though.01:06
MutantTurkeythank goodness for pidgen on windows02:20
MutantTurkeyjedijf: doing the arch install right about now. Hopefully unetbootin still works02:21
MobileTurkeyjedijf: arch doesn't seem to have a way to resize disks...03:34
MobileTurkeyapparently nobody thought of that.03:34
MobileTurkeycfdisk and fdisk cannot do it03:34
* GeekyAdam lumbers off to bed.03:38
MobileTurkeyloosing faith in arch :[03:49
InHisNameHappy wee mawnin' to you all !05:03
pvl1happy mornin to u too05:22
jacksonmorning too05:50
andrewand g'night06:30
andrew7am will be here too soon06:31
rmg51morning JonathanD09:47
JonathanDthis doesn't look good.09:50
rmg51what doesn't look good?09:51
JonathanDWork is "down" in some way.09:51
rmg51I'm "down" today :-D09:53
rmg51I'm taking the day off09:53
JonathanDSOunds good :P09:54
JonathanDRouter is offline, at least.09:54
JonathanDGonna go in now.09:54
JonathanDall fixed.10:29
JonathanDPower failure last night, and one switch decided it could use the extra rest.10:29
rmg511that sounds like me :-D11:03
JonathanDheh :)12:04
JonathanDSo I have this broken ideapad.12:04
JonathanDsomeone dropped it.12:04
JonathanDI haven't really worked with an ideapad before (hardware fixage side)12:05
JonathanDIt's not too shabby.12:05
JonathanDThey destroyed one of the screen hinges, though.12:05
JonathanDI'm filling the gap with solder and trying to seal up the plastic, to see if it'll move well that way.12:06
JonathanDAlthough it has the lame shiny screen.12:11
MutantTurkeymy dog thinks that he is a wolf or something14:50
MutantTurkeyalways howling in the mornings14:50
rmg511one morning you will find him gnawing on one of your legs :-D14:53
MutantTurkeyhe's a bit of a wimp, I think he may ujust be lonely14:54
MutantTurkeyjedijf: I am still seeking your help with this lappy, oh wise one14:55
jedijfMutantTurkey: what up?14:55
jedijfdoes wise imply old14:55
MutantTurkeywise means experienced14:55
MutantTurkeybasically old.14:56
MutantTurkeyjedijf: what should  I do for partitioning? still at a crossroads here.14:58
MutantTurkeyw7 has 3 partitions, one that is small, then a 300gig, and lenovos 10gb recovery14:58
MutantTurkeyBut I want W7, {debian,ubuntu}, Arch15:00
jedijfleave the 2 win alone ---resize 300 to 15/285(for arch and swap) install arch, then install ubu last-resize the arch to accomodate ubu, put ubu on empty space15:02
jedijf15 for win715:02
MutantTurkeyIll need like 30 for win, got to install all  of my age of empires games...15:04
MutantTurkeyand kings quest! I CANT WAIT TO PLAY KINGS QUEST!!15:04
MutantTurkeyI am giddy as a schoolboy.15:04
MutantTurkeyjedijf: remove the lenovo one?15:05
jedijfok..but you get the gist15:05
jedijfkeep those 315:05
MutantTurkeyso I'll need to do extended partition15:05
MutantTurkeyok and then just resize the arch one at a later time15:05
MutantTurkeyeasy enough15:05
MutantTurkeybut wait... should I share my home directory between arch and ubuntu?15:06
MutantTurkeytypically I do a /boot /root /home setup15:06
jedijfthey should also have that backup procedure if not image the disk\15:06
jedijfbefore you start15:06
MutantTurkeythey? should have that? backup procedure15:06
jedijfactually, i shrink, then image but you can do what you like15:06
jedijfuusally since they no longer ship cd's/dvd's they tell you to make a restore disk15:07
jedijfdo that15:07
jedijfor shrink and image\15:07
jedijfthen start15:07
jedijfMutantTurkey: you may want to do the ubu with a separate home too, just to make upgrading easier15:09
MutantTurkeywell fck ubuntu I tihnk I am going with debian15:10
MutantTurkeybut then I think, oh well maybe I should check out the big ubuntu circlejerk and see what it's all about15:10
MutantTurkeyjedijf: annoyingly arch doesn't have a good way to resize disks, short of using ntfs-tools15:11
MutantTurkeysometimes  I wish  I had gparted15:11
jedijfuse an ubuntu livecd15:11
MutantTurkeyso do the ubuntu install first?15:13
MutantTurkeyI actually keep trying to make an install disk unsing the ubuntu instructions and it keeps not booting up15:13
MutantTurkeyapparently my usb isn't big enough, I only have a 1GB15:14
MutantTurkeyhere is my chance to install Haiku!15:17
rmg5111GB should be big enough15:19
jedijfMutantTurkey: livecd to resize for arch ..install ubu last15:19
rmg511you need at least 700MB to make an bootable usb15:19
MutantTurkeyweird using the tool they link to15:20
MutantTurkeyor how would you do it15:20
rmg511system/admin/start up creator15:20
rmg511from live cd15:21
MutantTurkeyI am on windows15:22
jedijfuse this http://www.imgburn.com/15:25
jedijfthat's for cd's you want to do stick use http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/15:26
MutantTurkeyunetbooting wasn't working15:30
MutantTurkeyI'll give it another spin15:30
MutantTurkeyhalf the time unetbootin doesnt work, it's pretty sketchy15:31
rmg511there is always booting live :-/15:37
jedijfMutantTurkey: really though, the usb to ide/sata cable and a sata dvd drive should be next purchase if laptop doesn't have one inside15:39
MutantTurkeyhas esata15:39
jedijfdoes it have any optical drive?15:40
MutantTurkeyhave a pcmcia slot15:41
MobileTurkeyhere we go16:06
MobileTurkeyjedijf: got the live usb working16:06
MobileTurkeyubuntu is quite odd16:06
MobileTurkeyfeels very polished though16:06
Joe_CoTpleia2, happy birthday! DarkMyst told me to message you :D16:41
pleia2thank you :)16:41
waltmanpleia2: It's your birthday? Happy Birthday!17:05
pleia2waltman: yes, 30th!17:08
waltmanNo way!17:09
waltmanIt's all downhill from here on out :)17:09
pleia2I thought that didn't happen until 40 :)17:09
pleia2so far the only crappy thing about 30 is I didn't qualify for the "young professionals" rate at my new fitness club place17:10
waltmanpleia2: Cookie the penguin also wants to wish you a happy birthday! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wTWWjYTe1I17:10
pleia2but the membership director took pity on me and gave me a bunch of guest passes to make up for my unfortunately timed birthday :)17:10
beta0x64_Hello all17:11
waltmanpleia2: make sure you watch Cookie all the way until the end17:11
pleia2I love cookie :)17:11
pleia2hi beta0x64_17:11
beta0x64_hello pleia217:11
waltmanpleia2: You'll be getting senior discounts before you know it! :)17:12
waltmanCookie might be the cutest little penguin EVAH17:13
beta0x64_How is Ubuntu in the Pittsburgh area? Is there support here?17:13
pleia2ssweeny is out there, in the past the Ubuntu events have mostly been teamed up with wplug.org17:13
beta0x64_good to know pleia2.17:16
beta0x64_So far, I've been a loner!17:16
* ssweeny waves at beta0x64 17:17
ssweenybeta0x64, whareabouts in the burgh are you?17:17
beta0x64_ssweeny: I am about 50 minutes south of Pittsburgh.17:18
beta0x64_That is, 50 minutes south assuming 0 traffic lol17:18
ssweenybeta0x64, like washington area?17:18
beta0x64_no like westmoreland17:19
beta0x64_wait, washington how?17:19
beta0x64_oh. I've never been to Washington, PA. No, down route 51. not 7917:20
ssweenybeta0x64, washington, pa is almost an hour south of pittsburgh17:20
beta0x64_I'm like between Washington and Greensburg17:21
ssweenyanyway, i think i'm the sole ubuntu rep in the greater pittsburgh area17:21
beta0x64_Well isn't that fancy?17:21
ssweenybut i work for canonical, so that has to be bonus points17:21
beta0x64_congratulations. that's really great.17:22
ssweenyat least until now i've been the only pittsburgh ubuntu user who knows how to use IRC :)17:22
beta0x64_Or have been bothered to use it!17:24
beta0x64_So, how do we plan world domination?17:24
beta0x64_We should start with Downtown...17:24
jedijfi like beta0x64_ spirit...army of 217:26
beta0x64_well, we need to amass an idiot army obviously17:27
jedijfand apparently knows ssweeny17:27
beta0x64_or at least a very cheaply implemented robotic army17:27
ssweenyfor that we can use cmu17:28
ssweenyi know some folks...17:28
waltmanHuh. Here I figured that 50 minutes south of Pittsburgh was West Virginia :)17:28
ssweenywaltman, that's more like 1:1017:29
ssweenyactually about 50 minutes west of pittsburgh will also put you in WV17:29
* TheEvilPhoenix is originally from pittsburgh17:29
beta0x64_I suppose it depends on how fast you drive and on which roads.17:30
beta0x64_I live along routes 51 and interstate 7017:30
* waltman discovers that Pittsburgh's quite a bit further north than he thought.17:30
beta0x64_ssweeny: so, what do you do for canonical?17:33
ssweenybeta0x64, i'm on the oem services team. i customize ubuntu for hardware manufacturers to distribute on their products17:33
beta0x64_ssweeny: that's great. is that an on-site type of job? do you have to travel?17:35
ssweenybeta0x64, i mostly work from home. i travel to UDS twice a year and occasionally to our US home base in boston17:36
beta0x64_I'm impressed. which companies do you work with? local computer stores or something like asus?17:36
ssweenythe most well-known is probably dell17:37
ssweenywe have a bunch of customers in asia17:37
beta0x64_oh I see17:37
beta0x64_So you work internationally from home?17:37
beta0x64_That's sweet =)17:38
beta0x64_working with canonical must be nice.17:40
beta0x64_is LPIC worth it?17:42
beta0x64_well I have to go ladies and gentlemen. believe me, I'll be back17:45
TheEvilPhoenixno you wont :P17:45
jedijfhello WiCkD118:29
JonathanDBattery is shot on this thing.18:35
jedijfdropping does not break battery18:40
jedijfin general18:40
MutantTurkeyjedijf: doode18:49
MutantTurkeywhat the hall18:49
MutantTurkeyubuntu doesn't let me update because I am not in the sudoers file, and it doesn't let me set the root password at all18:49
MutantTurkeyso how am I supposed to update ?18:50
MutantTurkeybecause no root pw so I can't use su.18:50
MutantTurkeyI mean I am going to drop into a fallback shell, but I don't understand how regular users do it18:50
jedijfMutantTurkey: user has password, that's sudo password19:09
jedijfsudo su19:09
JonathanDjedijf: I assume it was already broken.19:12
jedijfMutantTurkey: your doing it rong19:12
jedijfway rong19:12
JonathanDI'm trying to find a pinout to charge it outside the laptop, and see if it's the battery or the laptop...19:12
MutantTurkeyjedijf: hsudo was broken19:13
MutantTurkeydude maybe I should just install debian...19:13
jedijfMutantTurkey: you installed ubu?19:13
MutantTurkeyjedijf: yes.19:14
MutantTurkeylemme pm19:14
jedijfga no!19:33
beta0x64MutantTurkey, you could boot into single user mode and add yourself to the sudoers file.19:50
MutantTurkeykasted: I did19:51
MutantTurkeybeta0x64: i did19:51
MutantTurkeythat was the first thing I did19:51
beta0x64Still not working?19:51
MutantTurkeybut I was thinking about all the idiotic non linux users trying it out for the first time19:51
MutantTurkeybeta0x64: they are probably hopelessly lost19:51
beta0x64they should be able to go update normally. I'm not sure why you couldn't use sudo19:51
rmg511hie nick says it all ;-)19:52
jedijfMutantTurkey: did you use the single from grub, that's pretty 'polished' now to19:53
MutantTurkeynice dialog19:54
MutantTurkeyjedijf: how do I boot to kdm?19:55
jedijfyou installed it, right?19:55
MutantTurkeywrong chat :eek:19:55
beta0x64when you go to login19:55
jedijfthen after you put in user name...on the bottom you'll see session switcher19:55
MutantTurkeyis that still in /etc/init.d/?19:55
MutantTurkeyjedijf: not kde, kdm19:55
jedijfthat didn't happen automagically when you installed kde?19:56
MutantTurkeyno idea... haven't rebooted yet19:56
MutantTurkeyI figured you would have to switch the daemons19:57
jedijfit should happen automagically or sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm   and select kdm19:58
MutantTurkeythanks :)19:58
jedijflogout....find the session thingy and see how easy it is to switch...prolly have ldm choice by now too19:58
jedijfguess this is the 'find that session thingy' part20:07
sadinhi everyone how you doing21:30
kasted /whois sadin21:50
JonathanDI have no idea, whois he?21:50
sadinJonathanD you know me lol21:50
JonathanDSo I do :P21:50
sadinoh JonathanD guess what21:51
sadini decided to join the ubuntu artwork team and help they havent responded to me when i asked for any tips or anything but im going to look at one of the requested tasks thats open and take it up and design something21:52
sadinfor ubuntu21:52
JonathanDoh, interesting :)21:53
JonathanDI wish I could art :)21:53
JonathanD o21:53
JonathanD |21:53
JonathanD/ \21:53
JonathanDMy brilliant ubuntu art21:53
JonathanDThats a penguin.21:54
sadinill see you guys mater21:54
* sadin has to leave for marching band21:54
* sadin cringes21:54

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