[01:00] hio, anyone up? [01:03] I am but I have to go...need to go home..work time is over! :) [01:05] :/ [01:06] ill be back tomorrow though. [02:20] thank goodness for pidgen on windows [02:21] jedijf: doing the arch install right about now. Hopefully unetbootin still works [03:34] jedijf: arch doesn't seem to have a way to resize disks... [03:34] apparently nobody thought of that. [03:34] cfdisk and fdisk cannot do it [03:34] afaik [03:38] * GeekyAdam lumbers off to bed. [03:49] loosing faith in arch :[ [05:03] Happy wee mawnin' to you all ! [05:22] happy mornin to u too [05:50] morning too [06:30] morning [06:30] and g'night [06:31] 7am will be here too soon [09:46] Morning. [09:47] morning JonathanD [09:50] hi [09:50] this doesn't look good. [09:51] what doesn't look good? [09:51] Work is "down" in some way. [09:53] I'm "down" today :-D [09:53] I'm taking the day off [09:54] heh [09:54] SOunds good :P [09:54] Router is offline, at least. [09:54] Gonna go in now. [09:55] bye [10:29] all fixed. [10:29] Power failure last night, and one switch decided it could use the extra rest. [11:03] that sounds like me :-D [12:04] heh :) [12:04] So I have this broken ideapad. [12:04] someone dropped it. [12:05] I haven't really worked with an ideapad before (hardware fixage side) [12:05] It's not too shabby. [12:05] They destroyed one of the screen hinges, though. [12:06] I'm filling the gap with solder and trying to seal up the plastic, to see if it'll move well that way. [12:11] Although it has the lame shiny screen. [14:50] my dog thinks that he is a wolf or something [14:50] always howling in the mornings [14:53] one morning you will find him gnawing on one of your legs :-D [14:54] he's a bit of a wimp, I think he may ujust be lonely [14:55] jedijf: I am still seeking your help with this lappy, oh wise one [14:55] MutantTurkey: what up? [14:55] does wise imply old [14:55] wise means experienced [14:56] basically old. [14:58] jedijf: what should I do for partitioning? still at a crossroads here. [14:58] w7 has 3 partitions, one that is small, then a 300gig, and lenovos 10gb recovery [15:00] But I want W7, {debian,ubuntu}, Arch [15:02] leave the 2 win alone ---resize 300 to 15/285(for arch and swap) install arch, then install ubu last-resize the arch to accomodate ubu, put ubu on empty space [15:02] 15 for win7 [15:04] Ill need like 30 for win, got to install all of my age of empires games... [15:04] and kings quest! I CANT WAIT TO PLAY KINGS QUEST!! [15:04] I am giddy as a schoolboy. [15:05] jedijf: remove the lenovo one? [15:05] ok..but you get the gist [15:05] no [15:05] keep those 3 [15:05] so I'll need to do extended partition [15:05] ok and then just resize the arch one at a later time [15:05] easy enough [15:05] yes\ [15:05] rocking [15:06] but wait... should I share my home directory between arch and ubuntu? [15:06] typically I do a /boot /root /home setup [15:06] they should also have that backup procedure if not image the disk\ [15:06] before you start [15:06] they? should have that? backup procedure [15:06] actually, i shrink, then image but you can do what you like [15:07] uusally since they no longer ship cd's/dvd's they tell you to make a restore disk [15:07] do that [15:07] or shrink and image\ [15:07] then start [15:09] MutantTurkey: you may want to do the ubu with a separate home too, just to make upgrading easier [15:10] well fck ubuntu I tihnk I am going with debian [15:10] but then I think, oh well maybe I should check out the big ubuntu circlejerk and see what it's all about [15:11] jedijf: annoyingly arch doesn't have a good way to resize disks, short of using ntfs-tools [15:11] sometimes I wish I had gparted [15:11] use an ubuntu livecd [15:11] hater [15:13] so do the ubuntu install first? [15:13] I actually keep trying to make an install disk unsing the ubuntu instructions and it keeps not booting up [15:14] apparently my usb isn't big enough, I only have a 1GB [15:17] here is my chance to install Haiku! [15:19] 1GB should be big enough [15:19] MutantTurkey: livecd to resize for arch ..install ubu last [15:19] you need at least 700MB to make an bootable usb [15:20] weird using the tool they link to [15:20] ? [15:20] or how would you do it [15:20] system/admin/start up creator [15:21] from live cd [15:22] I am on windows [15:25] use this http://www.imgburn.com/ [15:25] nm [15:26] that's for cd's you want to do stick use http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ [15:30] unetbooting wasn't working [15:30] I'll give it another spin [15:31] half the time unetbootin doesnt work, it's pretty sketchy [15:37] there is always booting live :-/ [15:39] MutantTurkey: really though, the usb to ide/sata cable and a sata dvd drive should be next purchase if laptop doesn't have one inside [15:39] has esata [15:40] does it have any optical drive? [15:41] nope [15:41] have a pcmcia slot [16:06] here we go [16:06] jedijf: got the live usb working [16:06] ubuntu is quite odd [16:06] feels very polished though [16:41] pleia2, happy birthday! DarkMyst told me to message you :D [16:41] lol [16:41] thank you :) [17:05] pleia2: It's your birthday? Happy Birthday! [17:08] waltman: yes, 30th! [17:09] No way! [17:09] It's all downhill from here on out :) [17:09] lol [17:09] I thought that didn't happen until 40 :) [17:10] so far the only crappy thing about 30 is I didn't qualify for the "young professionals" rate at my new fitness club place [17:10] pleia2: Cookie the penguin also wants to wish you a happy birthday! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wTWWjYTe1I [17:10] but the membership director took pity on me and gave me a bunch of guest passes to make up for my unfortunately timed birthday :) [17:11] Hello all [17:11] pleia2: make sure you watch Cookie all the way until the end [17:11] I love cookie :) [17:11] hi beta0x64_ [17:11] hello pleia2 [17:12] pleia2: You'll be getting senior discounts before you know it! :) [17:12] lol [17:13] Cookie might be the cutest little penguin EVAH [17:13] How is Ubuntu in the Pittsburgh area? Is there support here? [17:13] ssweeny is out there, in the past the Ubuntu events have mostly been teamed up with wplug.org [17:16] good to know pleia2. [17:16] So far, I've been a loner! [17:17] * ssweeny waves at beta0x64 [17:17] beta0x64, whareabouts in the burgh are you? [17:18] ssweeny: I am about 50 minutes south of Pittsburgh. [17:18] That is, 50 minutes south assuming 0 traffic lol [17:18] beta0x64, like washington area? [17:19] no like westmoreland [17:19] wait, washington how? [17:20] oh. I've never been to Washington, PA. No, down route 51. not 79 [17:20] beta0x64, washington, pa is almost an hour south of pittsburgh [17:21] I'm like between Washington and Greensburg [17:21] anyway, i think i'm the sole ubuntu rep in the greater pittsburgh area [17:21] Well isn't that fancy? [17:21] but i work for canonical, so that has to be bonus points [17:22] +1 [17:22] congratulations. that's really great. [17:22] -2 [17:22] :P [17:22] at least until now i've been the only pittsburgh ubuntu user who knows how to use IRC :) [17:24] Or have been bothered to use it! [17:24] So, how do we plan world domination? [17:24] We should start with Downtown... [17:26] i like beta0x64_ spirit...army of 2 [17:27] well, we need to amass an idiot army obviously [17:27] and apparently knows ssweeny [17:27] or at least a very cheaply implemented robotic army [17:27] :P [17:28] for that we can use cmu [17:28] i know some folks... [17:28] Huh. Here I figured that 50 minutes south of Pittsburgh was West Virginia :) [17:29] waltman, that's more like 1:10 [17:29] actually about 50 minutes west of pittsburgh will also put you in WV [17:29] :P [17:29] * TheEvilPhoenix is originally from pittsburgh [17:30] :P [17:30] I suppose it depends on how fast you drive and on which roads. [17:30] I live along routes 51 and interstate 70 [17:30] * waltman discovers that Pittsburgh's quite a bit further north than he thought. [17:33] ssweeny: so, what do you do for canonical? [17:33] beta0x64, i'm on the oem services team. i customize ubuntu for hardware manufacturers to distribute on their products [17:35] ssweeny: that's great. is that an on-site type of job? do you have to travel? [17:36] beta0x64, i mostly work from home. i travel to UDS twice a year and occasionally to our US home base in boston [17:36] I'm impressed. which companies do you work with? local computer stores or something like asus? [17:37] the most well-known is probably dell [17:37] we have a bunch of customers in asia [17:37] oh I see [17:37] So you work internationally from home? [17:37] yep [17:38] That's sweet =) [17:40] working with canonical must be nice. [17:42] is LPIC worth it? [17:45] well I have to go ladies and gentlemen. believe me, I'll be back [17:45] no you wont :P [18:26] hello. [18:29] hello WiCkD1 [18:35] Battery is shot on this thing. [18:40] dropping does not break battery [18:40] in general [18:49] jedijf: doode [18:49] what the hall [18:49] ubuntu doesn't let me update because I am not in the sudoers file, and it doesn't let me set the root password at all [18:50] so how am I supposed to update ? [18:50] because no root pw so I can't use su. [18:50] I mean I am going to drop into a fallback shell, but I don't understand how regular users do it [18:50] :| [19:09] MutantTurkey: user has password, that's sudo password [19:09] sudo su [19:12] jedijf: I assume it was already broken. [19:12] MutantTurkey: your doing it rong [19:12] way rong [19:12] I'm trying to find a pinout to charge it outside the laptop, and see if it's the battery or the laptop... [19:13] jedijf: hsudo was broken [19:13] dude maybe I should just install debian... [19:13] MutantTurkey: you installed ubu? [19:14] jedijf: yes. [19:14] 11.04? [19:14] lemme pm [19:14] ya [19:33] ga no! [19:50] MutantTurkey, you could boot into single user mode and add yourself to the sudoers file. [19:51] kasted: I did [19:51] beta0x64: i did [19:51] that was the first thing I did [19:51] Still not working? [19:51] but I was thinking about all the idiotic non linux users trying it out for the first time [19:51] beta0x64: they are probably hopelessly lost [19:51] they should be able to go update normally. I'm not sure why you couldn't use sudo [19:52] hie nick says it all ;-) [19:53] MutantTurkey: did you use the single from grub, that's pretty 'polished' now to [19:53] too [19:54] yeah [19:54] nice dialog [19:55] jedijf: how do I boot to kdm? [19:55] you installed it, right? [19:55] wrong chat :eek: [19:55] yes [19:55] when you go to login [19:55] right? [19:55] then after you put in user name...on the bottom you'll see session switcher [19:55] is that still in /etc/init.d/? [19:55] jedijf: not kde, kdm [19:56] that didn't happen automagically when you installed kde? [19:56] no idea... haven't rebooted yet [19:57] I figured you would have to switch the daemons [19:58] it should happen automagically or sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm and select kdm [19:58] okay [19:58] thanks :) [19:58] logout....find the session thingy and see how easy it is to switch...prolly have ldm choice by now too [20:07] guess this is the 'find that session thingy' part [21:30] hi everyone how you doing [21:50] /whois sadin [21:50] I have no idea, whois he? [21:50] JonathanD you know me lol [21:50] So I do :P [21:51] oh JonathanD guess what [21:51] lol [21:51] ? [21:52] i decided to join the ubuntu artwork team and help they havent responded to me when i asked for any tips or anything but im going to look at one of the requested tasks thats open and take it up and design something [21:52] for ubuntu [21:53] oh, interesting :) [21:53] I wish I could art :) [21:53] lol [21:53] o [21:53] /|\ [21:53] | [21:53] / \ [21:53] My brilliant ubuntu art [21:53] ART! [21:54] Thats a penguin. [21:54] yay! [21:54] ill see you guys mater [21:54] later* [21:54] * sadin has to leave for marching band [21:54] * sadin cringes [22:22] hello [22:51] hello. [23:49] hi