[14:48] <bjsnider> ricotz, i'm getting .xsession-errors spammed by a gnome 3-centric message and they told me to talk to you about it
[14:51] <bjsnider> GConf error: configuration server cant be met: D-BUS error: Method "Set" with signature "s(i(ias))" on interface "org.gnome.GConf.Database" doesn't exist
[14:52] <ricotz> bjsnider, hi
[14:53] <ricotz> hmm, i have nothing to do with a non working gcond daemon ;)
[14:53] <ricotz> *gconf
[14:53] <ricotz> looks like your org.gnome.GConf service is broken
[14:54] <bjsnider> yeah but what is it?
[14:55] <ricotz> /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-2 isnt working
[14:55] <ricotz> use d-feet to look at this dbus interface
[15:04] <bjsnider> yeah, so it's a session bus, and it has no object paths at all
[15:04] <bjsnider> when i select it, the console spits out:
[15:04] <bjsnider> ERROR: Some clever service is trying to be cute and has the same method name in the same interface
[15:08] <ricotz> ok, then gconf is broken for some reason
[15:09] <bjsnider> what do you think i should do about it?
[15:09] <bjsnider> and this ain't just me, by the way. there's a bug against the wrong package, and if you do a search it seems like a lot of people running gnome-shell in oneiric have this issue
[15:10] <bjsnider> bug 842648
[15:10] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 842648 in gnome-python (Ubuntu) "Dbus error: Method "set" with signature "s(ib)" on interface "org.gnome.gconf.database" doesn't exist (dup-of: 848198)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/842648
[15:10] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 848198 in gconf (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Sporadic gconf error messages (affects: 8) (dups: 4) (heat: 54)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/848198
[15:12] <bjsnider> i didn't notice that it was a duplicate of 848198
[15:12] <bjsnider> i guess this is known
[15:13] <ricotz> yes, seems to affect at lot of people
[15:13] <seb128> somebody should get the log upstream asking then
[15:13] <seb128> king->ked
[15:13] <seb128> I've added a comment on the bug
[15:14] <bjsnider> funny because i was in the gnome-shell channel alst night and they didn't know anything about it
[15:14] <bjsnider> one of them said he didn't have org.gnome.Gconf
[15:15] <bjsnider> i think evolution might be spamming my .xsession-errors with this stuff:
[15:16] <bjsnider> (exe:3448): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
[15:16] <bjsnider> it's got to be a mono app if it's an exe
[15:16] <jcristau> evo is a mono app now?
[15:16] <bjsnider> well, i thguth it was
[15:16] <bjsnider> maybe not
[15:17] <jcristau> pretty sure not.
[15:17] <seb128> it's not
[15:20] <bjsnider> what process could be identifying itself as "exe"?
[15:22] <seb128> bjsnider, looking which one has the pid 3448?
[15:22] <bjsnider> thought that number meant something else
[15:27] <bjsnider> that's chromium
[17:05] <cnd> bryceh: Sarvatt: I just upgraded my netbook to oneiric, but X crashes as soon as I attempt to login
[17:05] <cnd> have you seen this before?
[17:07] <Sarvatt> cnd: only with xorg-edgers where unity is broken and it goes back to the login screen again.. tried another session?
[17:07] <cnd> hmmm… that sounds like what's going on
[17:07] <cnd> but I don't think I'm running xorg-edgers
[17:07] <cnd> let me check
[17:08] <cnd> nope, no xorg-edgers
[17:08] <cnd> it looks like the guest session is working
[17:08] <cnd> for some definition of working...
[17:08] <Sarvatt> whats your /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old say?
[17:08] <cnd> nothing useful
[17:09] <Sarvatt> why are ya blaming X then? :P
[17:09] <Sarvatt> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^ offer to install anything?
[17:09] <cnd> unity 2d has problems too
[17:09] <cnd> nothing new for ubuntu-desktop
[17:10] <cnd> unity-2d seemed to crash lightdm so it stopped runing
[17:10] <cnd> I had to sudo start lightdm...
[17:10] <Sarvatt> with the circumflex? darn, that would have been the easy fix if something was removed
[17:11] <Sarvatt> how about ~/.xsession-errors?
[17:12] <cnd> I think I figured it out by looking at the lightdm.log
[17:12] <cnd> somehow my ~/.Xauthority was 600 root:root
[17:13] <cnd> so it couldn't overwrite it with a new one for the session
[17:13] <cnd> now I'm into my session, but unity is no where to be seen...
[17:13] <cnd> I have the menu bar at the top
[17:13] <cnd> and empathy is helpfully running
[17:13] <cnd> but that's it :(
[17:14] <cnd> gah, "Fatal: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing"
[17:14] <Sarvatt> hmm someone else reported that too, compiz wouldn't start
[17:14] <cnd> yeah
[17:15] <Sarvatt> lets see if i can find the bug # in 2 day old chat logs
[17:15] <cnd> this is on an atom machine
[17:17] <cnd> unity 2d saves the day :)
[17:18] <Sarvatt> it should still work fine, thats a pretty nasty bug
[17:23] <cnd> what happened to the 51-synaptics-quirks.conf file?
[17:27] <cnd> hmm, the file is still there in the package
[17:27] <cnd> but I'm betting a change has prevented it from installing
[17:28] <cnd> my netbook trackpad is pretty useless without the quirk...
[17:29] <Sarvatt> looks like it was lost in the merge in feb
[17:30] <Sarvatt> err july
[17:30] <cnd> I can't even build xserver-xorg-input-synaptics...
[17:30] <cnd> dpkg-source: warning: the diff modifies the following upstream files: 
[17:30] <cnd>  autogen.sh
[17:30] <cnd>  docs/README.alps
[17:30] <cnd>  docs/tapndrag.dia
[17:30] <cnd>  docs/trouble-shooting.txt
[17:30] <cnd>  test/test-pad.c
[17:30] <cnd>  test/testprotocol.c
[17:30] <cnd> dpkg-source: error: aborting due to --abort-on-upstream-changes
[17:31] <tjaalton> oops
[17:32] <Sarvatt> tjaalton: i blame it on it having been done in dublin :)
[17:32] <Sarvatt> on a friday
[17:32] <tjaalton> i haven't checked out where exactly it got dropped
[17:33] <Sarvatt> debian/rules got switched to dh in the merge and lost the custom install of the quirks
[17:33] <tjaalton> meh
[17:33] <tjaalton> ok so I need to fix it then :)
[17:34] <cnd> and hopefully the accidental (?) upstream changes
[17:34] <tjaalton> that I don't know
[17:34] <tjaalton> how they crept in
[17:34] <tjaalton> but I'll check
[17:36] <cnd> as it is I don't know how to build the package
[17:37] <tjaalton> umm, so the tarball doesn't have autogen.sh
[17:37] <tjaalton> nor the docs dir
[17:38] <tjaalton> not my fault! :)
[17:46] <Sarvatt> cnd: package in the archive and the ubuntu branch of git build fine here..
[17:46] <Sarvatt> cnd: do you have something in ~/.devscripts changing the defaults?
[17:47] <cnd> hah, I do
[17:47] <cnd> DEBUILD_DPKG_BUILDPACKAGE_OPTS="--source-option=--abort-on-upstream-changes"
[17:47] <cnd> good call :)
[17:47] <Sarvatt> i had to purge xorg-edgers to try it, sorry it took so long :)
[17:50] <tjaalton> hmm, doubt we need the udev rules anymore
[17:51] <tjaalton> in synaptics, better use MatchProduct in the conf snippet instead
[17:54] <cnd> Sarvatt, tjaalton: the njpatel from dx is telling me that's a fairly basic opengl extension
[17:54] <cnd> and that if it's not supported then there's probably something wrong with the drivers
[17:55] <Sarvatt> yeah, its supported though
[17:55] <cnd> Sarvatt, can you double check my glxinfo to see if they are misreading it? :)
[17:55] <cnd> http://paste.ubuntu.com/699227/
[17:56] <cnd> glxinfo is voodoo to me
[17:56] <Sarvatt> cnd: yeah it's there
[17:57] <Sarvatt> cnd: can you compiz --replace and have it start up fine in another session?
[17:57] <Sarvatt> fine as in, not throwing that error
[17:57] <cnd> Sarvatt, you're saying that glxinfo shows the extension is there?
[17:58] <Sarvatt> cnd: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is there all 3 times
[17:58] <cnd> ok
[17:59] <njpatel> Sarvatt, hey, cnd got this when running "Fatal: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing"
[18:00] <Sarvatt> yeah
[18:00] <Sarvatt> its not missing though
[18:00] <njpatel> so, trying from the guest session might be useful debugging
[18:00] <cnd> yay, we're all chatting in one room :)
[18:00] <njpatel> right, glxinfo shows it isn't 
[18:00] <Sarvatt> i was asking if he could try compiz --replace from another session to see if it throws the same error
[18:00] <cnd> njpatel, it failed in the guest session too
[18:00] <njpatel> but something's up
[18:00] <cnd> I'll try compiz --replace right now
[18:01] <cnd> hmm, doesn't look promising
[18:01] <cnd> I seem to have lost all WM functionality
[18:01] <Sarvatt> did it give that error?
[18:01] <cnd> but my terminal window is behind my irc window
[18:02] <tjaalton> cnd: build synaptics git, and see if it fixes your touchpad
[18:02] <cnd> Sarvatt, njpatel ooo...
[18:02] <cnd> compiz --replace worked
[18:03] <cnd> and it seems to have brought unity 3d around
[18:03] <tjaalton> dbus daemon 100% cpu again..
[18:03] <tjaalton> sigh
[18:04] <cnd> tjaalton, I'll attempt it now
[18:04] <cnd> tjaalton, did you git push?
[18:04] <cnd> git fetch didn't find anything
[18:05] <tjaalton> I did
[18:05] <cnd> still nothing...
[18:05] <tjaalton> weird
[18:05] <cnd> oh wait
[18:05] <cnd> I'm in -evdev...
[18:05] <tjaalton> :P
[18:06] <tjaalton> one of those days? :)
[18:06] <cnd> yeah
[18:06] <cnd> it's always one of those days when I'm upgrading my main laptop
[18:07] <tjaalton> hehe
[18:07] <tjaalton> so what exactly did that compiz --replace do? i guess it's going to cause problems for normal users as well
[18:08] <cnd> tjaalton, what are you wanting to know?
[18:08] <cnd> I can pastebin the output
[18:08] <tjaalton> cnd: yeah, why not
[18:09] <cnd> tjaalton, pastebin.ubuntu.com/699239
[18:10] <Sarvatt> cnd: I bet gdm works ok too then..
[18:10] <cnd> cnd, ?
[18:10]  * cnd has started talking to himself...
[18:10] <cnd> Sarvatt, ?
[18:10] <cnd> I'm using lightdm
[18:10] <tjaalton> cnd: ok, so the migration didn't happen
[18:10] <tjaalton> automatically
[18:11] <cnd> hmm?
[18:11] <cnd> what migration?
[18:12] <Sarvatt> yeah he hasns't been able to start compiz to do the migration because glx isn't available when its trying to start for some reason
[18:12] <tjaalton> "Checking if settings need to be migrated ...yes"
[18:12] <tjaalton> ahh
[18:12] <tjaalton> ok
[18:12] <tjaalton> so it's too fast?-)
[18:12] <cnd> there was a complication in here
[18:12] <cnd> that may be throwing you off
[18:12] <Sarvatt> thats odd, how do you get a glxinfo from lightdm's DISPLAY?
[18:12] <cnd> I tried it locally
[18:13] <tjaalton> does a new login work then, and does moving the old compiz configs back in place break it again?
[18:13] <cnd> but it seemed hung
[18:13] <cnd> so then I did it over ssh
[18:13] <cnd> but the first one just hadn't finished whatever it was doing
[18:13] <cnd> ok, I'm getting lost in all the debugging steps, so I'm going to log out and log back in
[18:14] <cnd> this will also test if tjaalton's new synaptics package is working properly :)
[18:14] <tjaalton> good :)
[18:15] <tjaalton> check your xorg log too that MatchProduct works
[18:16] <cnd> tjaalton: 
[18:16] <cnd> [  4593.602] (II) config/udev: Adding input device SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad (/dev/input/event5)
[18:16] <cnd> [  4593.602] (**) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: Applying InputClass "evdev touchpad catchall"
[18:16] <cnd> [  4593.602] (**) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: Applying InputClass "touchpad catchall"
[18:16] <cnd> [  4593.602] (II) LoadModule: "synaptics"
[18:16] <cnd> doesn't look like it worked
[18:17] <tjaalton> so which model is it?
[18:17] <cnd> hmm, my product isn't listed in ther...
[18:17] <tjaalton> ha
[18:17] <cnd> oh wait, yes it is
[18:17] <cnd> it's the inspiron_1012
[18:18] <tjaalton> check if the quirks file is installed
[18:18] <Sarvatt> tjaalton: MatchProduct is for the device's product string not the dmi info it needs to be matched against?
[18:18] <cnd> ok, unity came up, after a ton of time
[18:18] <cnd> tjaalton: it's installed
[18:18] <tjaalton> ok
[18:19] <Sarvatt> touchpad would have the same product name as one that doesnt need the quirk i'd imagine
[18:19] <cnd> how can I get the product name so we can verify?
[18:20] <Sarvatt> dmesg | grep input, xinput --list
[18:21] <cnd> SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad
[18:21] <jcristau> /proc/bus/input/devices
[18:21] <Sarvatt> xorg log
[18:21] <Sarvatt> yeah its generic
[18:21] <cnd> yep
[18:21] <tjaalton> crap
[18:21] <cnd> so the tags still need to be there
[18:21] <tjaalton> so.. udev rules back
[18:36] <tjaalton> hmm, I guess there's no reason to not include the quirks files in x-x-i-s.install, since we only support linux
[18:43] <tjaalton> cnd: ok, try again
[18:43] <tjaalton> argh
[18:43] <tjaalton> forgot to change 51-.. back
[18:44] <cnd> tjaalton: so I'll hold off for a minute?
[18:44] <tjaalton> yeah
[18:45] <tjaalton> cnd: now
[18:45] <cnd> ok
[18:54] <cnd> tjaalton: still not working
[18:55] <tjaalton> duh
[18:55] <tjaalton> hmm you need to reboot
[18:56] <tjaalton> i thikn
[18:56] <tjaalton> or not
[18:56] <tjaalton> no you don't
[18:56] <cnd> how can I replay udev events so I can see if the tag is right?
[18:57] <tjaalton> don't remember anymore
[18:58] <cnd> udevadm export-db it looks like
[18:59] <tjaalton> udevadm info --export-db
[19:00] <cnd> yeah
[19:00] <cnd> so I don't see the tags there
[19:00] <cnd> should they show up?
[19:00] <cnd> I can reboot if you think it would work
[19:00] <tjaalton> ah, run udevadm trigger --subsystem-match=input --action=change
[19:01] <tjaalton> hmm, maybe I need to bump the version on the postinst, since this is sorta "new" now
[19:01] <cnd> still nothing in export-db matching my machine
[19:02] <tjaalton> ok
[19:02] <tjaalton> dunno, reboot wouldn't hurt I guess
[19:03] <tjaalton> though put the dump in a file first
[19:03] <cnd> the export-db dump?
[19:03] <tjaalton> yes
[19:03] <tjaalton> and, just to humor me, restart x
[19:04] <tjaalton> see if it's fixed after all
[19:04] <cnd> already start the reboot
[19:04] <tjaalton> ok
[19:07] <cnd> tjaalton: it worked!
[19:07] <cnd> the tag shows up in the udev db now too
[19:07] <cnd> so the reboot changed something
[19:09] <tjaalton> so the udevadm trigger didn't work ;)
[19:10] <cnd> tjaalton: I think you still have a few hours to get the fix in before the final freeze :)
[19:13] <tjaalton> cnd: heh, yep
[19:17] <tjaalton> uploaded
[20:22] <Sarvatt> 40 minutes until final freeze, where's the xserver 1.11 upload?!
[20:24] <jcristau> yeah srsly.
[20:29] <tjaalton> ooh, synaptics accepted
[22:01] <cnd> tjaalton: I don't see synaptics having been accepted...
[22:02] <cnd> oops, nm
[22:02] <cnd> looked at the wrong page
[23:00] <Sarvatt> RAOF: any desire for me to bring a pantone huey to UDS? figured you might care for some reason :)
[23:03] <Sarvatt> was just reading http://libregraphicsworld.org/articles.php?article_id=42 and picked one up since it looks well supported
[23:08] <Sarvatt> yeesh, article got deleted right after i linked it
[23:12] <RAOF> Sarvatt: Yeah, that'd be awesome.
[23:13] <Sarvatt> well gotta make sure i get a working one first, looks like there are lots of screwed up ones that leave your colors too pink
[23:15] <Sarvatt> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=http%3A%2F%2Flibregraphicsworld.org%2Farticles.php%3Farticle_id%3D42&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB0QIDAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwebcache.googleusercontent.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dcache%3ASde4RhGBtm0J%3Alibregraphicsworld.org%2Farticles.php%253Farticle_id%253D42%2Bhttp%3A%2F%2Flibregraphicsworld.org%2Farticles.php%253Farticle_id%253D42%26cd%3D1%26hl%3Den%26ct%3Dclnk%26gl%3Dus&ei=4_uETs-vD6P30gG7yqTSDw&usg=AFQjCNHJv9N8udSV3Pg8jbzCa
[23:26] <RAOF> Tat
[23:26] <RAOF> Yeah, seen that.
[23:26] <RAOF> I was looking at acquiring one myself :)
[23:26] <Sarvatt> oh fglrx why do you work so good? http://sarvatt.com/downloads/GNOME3_desktop_corruption.jpg
[23:28] <RAOF> Setting a correct tiling mode is for chumps!
[23:28] <Sarvatt> one day it might be usable in gnome-shell :)
[23:47] <RAOF> cnd: Still around, and still having compiz problems?
[23:47] <cnd> RAOF: I was having problems
[23:48] <cnd> I guess I still have stacking order issues
[23:48] <cnd> but those are different
[23:48] <RAOF> :)
[23:48] <RAOF> Those problems have gone?
[23:49] <RAOF> Or, rather, the ?compiz doesn't start, complaining about EXT_tfp? problem has gone?
[23:49] <cnd> apparently not...
[23:49] <cnd> yeah, that's gone
[23:50] <cnd> manually running compiz --replace from an ubuntu 2d session magically fixed things
[23:50] <cnd> dbarth mentioned that unity --reset may work too