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ScottKmaco: Because 1010 10 = 42.01:24
macoScottK: but....that was last year04:21
ScottKYes, but last year's schedule was cargo culted to this year.04:21
ScottKAnd at UDS when I tried to get it fixed, I was told it was too late.04:22
macois final freeze in effect now too?04:23
ScottKYep.04:42
ScottKFor Main/Seeded stuff.04:42
ScottKOf course release team members can give exceptions.04:43
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bambeemorning08:50
alleebambee: hi, sorry. Read your comments right now.  I wasn't aware of the deadline, but I really had to leave.08:59
alleebambee cyphermox ScottK: the patch made vpnc work here again.  http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/tmp/nm-plasmiod-fix-vpnc.diff09:00
alleewhoever applies it please remove the ~test1 from version string and add to changelog:09:00
alleeThx a log to cyphermox bambee and ScottK for their help.09:01
allee^^ don't be shy. please add it ;)09:01
allees/log/lot/09:01
kubotuallee: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"09:01
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bambeeallee: looks good09:05
bambeeScottK: can you approve this package ?09:05
alleeFWIW: I had go to it's setup and save again. In the configfile was '2' and after the save 'dh2' .  In natty this value is not in the config file so a natty -> oneiric update is not affected09:14
Riddellgrr, google calendar thinks rekonq is a mobile browser09:16
faboRiddell: you might knwo :) how can I request a package rebuild, no changes needed?09:17
Riddellfabo: upload it with no changes09:18
RiddellI think there's a script somewhere to help that09:18
Riddellbut I can't find it09:19
Riddellfabo: what's needing done?09:19
faboRiddell: kile bug 77263109:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 772631 in kile (Ubuntu) "kile don't insert the symbols on the left panel after a click" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77263109:20
Riddellfabo: well I can upload that but I'm unsure on the state of the freezes09:21
alleecyphermox, bambee: I found another problem ;)  For a new user that didn't use WLAN yet, I've now 2 times the same wlan ssid listed.  ( I use same SSID at two locations.)   lucid, ... natty didn't list them twice.   Upstream has a fix already AFAIR, but maybe it's better to ping lamarque to do a release together 4.7.2 and get all fixes instead of (endless?) cherry picking . 09:21
faboRiddell: ok, please try. otherwise, it could be fixed in oneiric-updates?09:22
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bambeeallee: you should poke the maintainer about this bug, I don't find the commit :\09:38
alleebambee: I keep it on my TODO list.  First I build a pkg with all patches. 09:49
alleebambee: when you walked through upstream git log, did you have the impression that the all the changes would be okay to go into oneiric-updates like 4.7.2? 09:53
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bambeeOnly important fixes should go to oneiric-updates, imo. Like crashes fixes, rendering bugs, connections bugs etc... <-- also some of these commits fix bugs introduced by earlier commits, after our snapshot. We should only fix bugs found with our snapshot.09:58
bambeesince there are no releases or tags... it does not help :\09:59
bambeeRiddell: for the next cycle, if you want to improve your french you should go to #kde-fr :D10:03
Riddellah oui10:03
bambeehehe ;)10:04
Riddellkile 1:2.1.0-1build1 (Waiting for approval)10:04
alleebambee: okay. 10:08
ScottKbambee: I'll accept it, but someone else needs to upload it.10:31
Riddellfabo: kile 1:2.1.0-1build1 (Accepted)10:32
ScottKI just accepted another Qt upload, so if there's other stuff to go in, now's a good time.10:32
faboRiddell: thanks!10:33
ScottKRiddell: Would you be around to approve an akonadi upload shortly?  I'm going to move us to the head of the 1.6 branch for more bug fixes.  For Akonadi/Kdepim we need all we can get.10:39
RiddellScottK: sure10:39
ScottKGreat.10:39
RiddellScottK: does upstream approve?10:39
ScottKI think so.10:39
ScottKI honestly lost track.10:39
ScottKThat and the current released state of akonadi/pim is such complete crap I doubt I'd trust their opinion much either way.10:48
ScottKRiddell: Uploaded.11:01
alleeScottK: as blogged trueg does nepomuk bug fixing at the moment.  Maybe it's worth that someone (shadeslayer?) has a look at nepomuk 4.7.* branch11:05
ScottKCertainly.11:06
ScottKAlthough unlike kmail, I've never gotten nepomuk to do anything useful for me, so personally, I think it's less critical.11:06
RiddellI'm using nepomuk quite a bit now for file searches11:07
RiddellI expect if I used kmail I'd use it for e-mail searches too11:07
ScottKI didn't manage to get it to work at all, but it admittedly hasn't been a priority.11:10
ScottKIt's only recently I had a laptop that it was feasible to have it enabled.11:10
alleewhat an accident or not: we talked about nepomuk and now no kde app starts anymore.   I get soprano error msg :(11:13
keffie_jayxguys after upgrading a machine from 11.04 to 11.10, kontact won't start.11:21
keffie_jayxit starts but kmail doesn't seem to be configured properly with akonadi11:22
keffie_jayxFailed to fetch the resource collection11:22
keffie_jayxthe migration did not give me any errors though11:23
keffie_jayxanyone had that same issue, I am unsure wether to report this as a bug...11:27
shadeslayerphew11:51
shadeslayerfinally, interwebz is back11:51
shadeslayerScottK: did you upload akonadi already? I looked at the 1.6 branch yesterday, seemed they pushed in a couple of bug fixes11:58
shadeslayerkeffie_jayx: yeah, iirc ejat had the same issue12:01
shadeslayerbut that was on unity12:01
keffie_jayxshadeslayer: nop, kde 4.7.112:15
keffie_jayxdesktop-plasma12:15
keffie_jayxshadeslayer: I failed to see a bug report, Should I file a bug in the KDE Bugzilla?12:15
keffie_jayxI believe there is a bug filed somewhere else and there is a workaround for this but It didn't work for me12:16
shadeslayerkeffie_jayx: wait a day or two, ScottK is going to upload a new akonadi that might solve your issue12:16
keffie_jayxcool12:16
ryanakcaWould everybody kindly give the new wiki theme a spin? Select kubuntu-light from the dropdown menu on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Home?action=userprefs&sub=prefs12:28
ScottKshadeslayer: I did.12:32
shadeslayercool12:32
shadeslayerkeffie_jayx: ^ please test if updates fix your issue12:32
ScottKIt's not accepted yet.12:33
keffie_jayxok12:33
keffie_jayxThere is a dependency issue today12:33
ScottKI'd ask claydoh if he's seen that issue and if he has any recommendations.12:33
keffie_jayxlib32asound2 : Depends: libasound2 (= 1.0.24.1-0ubuntu9)12:33
ScottKArchive skew.  Just wait a bit.12:35
alleeryanakca: wiki.kubuntu.org gives Internal server error12:35
allee:)12:35
shadeslayerit's still saving stuff for me12:36
ryanakcaallee: Oh no. Try refreshing.12:36
* shadeslayer hits save again12:36
ScottKI get it too.12:37
ScottK(Internal server error)12:37
ryanakcaOh, I do too12:38
shadeslayerwohoo, works for me12:38
shadeslayertook some time to save, but works12:38
shadeslayerthe wiki now fits my desktop xD12:39
ryanakcaWorks here too now.12:39
ryanakcaallee: What URL were you after, just http://wiki.kubuntu.org/ ?12:41
alleeryanakca: yes.  And now works again12:41
alleeryanakca: FWIW: take me some time to find logout (I search it upper right  not in between the menu items12:43
alleeryanakca: I've a bigger default font in firefox.  Now the 'More Action' menu uses a bigger fond compared to the items on the left and right. the font even looks boldface12:44
shadeslayerryanakca++12:45
ryanakcashadeslayer: Thanks, but newz2000++ mostly, I just switch around a few colours ;)12:46
shadeslayerwell, you got it deployed, so thats no mean feat as well12:46
alleeryanakca: other than that: really nice layout!   Looks really fresh and, well, light ;)12:48
ScottKryanakca: Looks very nice.13:31
alleeagateau: reports due to globalmenu, go they bugs.kde  or to launchpad.   E.g. konsole: remove 'Show menu'  when globalmenu is active.  a) does not work, b) makes no sense.     Similar for rekonqs pseudo menu button in upper right corner:  Not needed with globalmenu.15:31
* yofel hugs ryanakca for the wiki theme16:14
dpmdebfx, all digikam and kipiplugins are now disabled in Launchpad16:31
debfxdpm: thanks!18:46
dpmdebfx, no worries, thank you for the heads up :)19:04
DarkwingDuckjjesse: ping19:15
yofelfabo: kile is still broken19:47
jjesseDarkwingDuck pong19:52
DarkwingDuckjjesse: translated PO files have been merged to lp:kubuntu-docs and we just need to translate them with the translation script.19:52
jjesseok19:53
DarkwingDuckjjesse: I have not tried the modified script yet.19:53
DarkwingDuckapachelogger: Hey mate, do you think a meeting prior to UDS to talk about what we want to meet about at UDS would be a good idea still?20:01
apacheloggermeetings are always a good idea20:01
apacheloggerif there are things to talk about20:01
DarkwingDuckapachelogger: Well, I remember from orlando last year that we were adding on lots of session at the last minute.20:02
apacheloggercertainly not as many as in budapest20:03
apachelogger50000 editions of the packaging blueprint ^^20:04
DarkwingDuckSo, maybe coming to UDS with a better idea/plan might take some of that stress out of the equasion.20:04
DarkwingDuckAlthough, the fact that "P20:05
DarkwingDuck"P" will be a LTS.. that might help *some*20:05
apacheloggerit might be a LTS20:05
DarkwingDuckmight?20:05
apacheloggerwell, there is no official statement that it will20:05
apacheloggerso until then I'd refrain from saying it will be LTS :P20:06
apacheloggeranywho20:06
DarkwingDuck:P:P20:06
apacheloggerDarkwingDuck: if people were adding ideas and whatnot to the wiki page that would certainly help with preperatin20:06
DarkwingDuckAye, it would. 20:06
DarkwingDuckSpeaking of... I actually need to toss a few things on there.20:07
DarkwingDuckapachelogger: you have that link handy?20:08
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ScottKapachelogger: There is an official statement from like two years ago.20:24
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faboyofel: that's really strange... I rebuilt the package and installed locally and it works for me...22:18
yofelit is a weird issue, if you read the full report you'll see that it was broken for me, then worked, then broke again22:19
yofeland I'm utterly clueless what's the problem22:19
faboimo kile is out of the root cause22:19
faboI still have the working package that I built22:20
* yofel takes another attempt at finding the symbol table code22:20
fabowell, to be honest, I made a signle changes but it isn't supposed to affect the package...22:22
faboI added a debug package, expecting to debug the issue ;)22:22
* yofel wonders how to turn KILE_DEBUG() on22:30
yofeloh, fun: #define KILE_DEBUG kDebug22:33
faboyofel: rebuilt again, worksforme. 1build1 doesn't work.22:58
yofelcan you built kile from git and tell me what you get here with kdebugdialog for kile on?22:58
yofelkile(25447) KileWidget::SymbolView::mousePressEvent: math is  false , bracket is  false  and item->data(Qt::UserRole).toString() is  "6%%%%%%/usr/share/kde4/apps/kile/mathsymbols/arrows/img018arrows.png"22:58
yofelbecause that string with the % is wrong22:58
yofelshould look about like this:22:59
yofel<1%\neq%≠%[utf8x,,]{inputenc,ucs,}%[fleqn,]{amsmath,}%This command gives nice weather!%/home/kdedev/.kde4/share/apps/kile/mathsymbols/user/img002math.png22:59
apachelogger%/%/%/%/%/%/%/|\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\|/%/%/%/%/%/%23:00
apacheloggerlatex people have a fetish for percents really23:01
yofelaccording to the spec that's too many %'s23:01
yofel:P23:01
fabo:)23:01
yofeloh fun, the key generation debug stuff is off23:01
* yofel uncomments and rebuilds23:01
apachelogger/ %% debug() %% //23:02
apacheloggeroh IRC ate a forwards slash :(23:02
yofelok, now to find out why image.text("Command"); returns an empty string23:02
* apachelogger waves fist23:02
* ScottK waves23:09
yofeluh........23:10
* ScottK packages pimlibs/pim/pim-runtime snapshots again.23:10
yofeldo the images get modified somehow?23:11
yofel/usr/share/kde4/apps/kile/mathsymbols/arrows/img001arrows.png != 23:11
yofelkile-2.1.0/src/data/symbols-ng/arrows/img001arrows.png23:11
yofelthe whole metadata is missing23:11
yofeland thus breaks kile23:11
yofelfabo: fun bug ^23:12
faboyep23:13
yofel*SIGH*23:27
yofelthe archive buildds run optipng on the images -.-23:27
apacheloggerI love it how stuff that messes with data is not optin but optout23:32
apacheloggertotal win23:32
yofelfound the fix23:33
yofelexport NO_PNG_PKG_MANGLE=1 in debian/rules23:33
apacheloggerpoint proven23:34
yofelindeed23:34
fabosigh23:35
yofelScottK: can we get that into the archive *somehow* ? or will that have to wait for oneiric-updates ?23:36
faboit was indeed buildd related23:36
yofelfabo: that explains why the PPA package worked23:36
ScottKI'll push for it to get in.23:36
yofel*and* the local builds23:36
faboand my rebuild23:36
yofelapachelogger: can you upload this? http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/kile_2.1.0-1ubuntu1.debdiff23:44
apacheloggernot at this time of day23:44
yofelyou're the only one present that has upload rights for universe and isn't called scott -.-23:45
apacheloggergreat23:46
apacheloggerdpkg-source: error: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address23:47
apacheloggerall hail the bogus patches23:47
yofeloooops23:47
yofelI forgot this was synced in the meantime -.-23:47
yofelsorry23:47
apacheloggerI am wondering23:48
apacheloggershouldn't the version be build1ubuntu1?23:48
yofeluh, don't we only use 'build' if we have no ubuntu changes and need a rebuild?23:49
apacheloggerwhy yes23:50
apacheloggerBUT23:50
apacheloggerit is build from debian23:50
apacheloggerand ontop of build1 we stuff our ubuntu changes23:50
apacheloggerScottK: opinion please?23:51
* apachelogger wants to go to bed :/23:51
ScottKDrop the build.23:51
apacheloggerkk23:51
ScottKMake it ubuntu123:51
apachelogger  Uploading kile_2.1.0-1ubuntu1_source.changes: done.23:52
apacheloggerSuccessfully uploaded packages.23:52
yofel_uh, no?23:52
apacheloggernini23:52
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yofelbuild1 is from today/yesterday23:52
yofelgn23:52
* yofel hugs apachelogger23:52
ryanakcaSo, any objections to turning kubuntu-light on as default wiki theme?23:59

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