[01:24] <ScottK> maco: Because 1010 10 = 42.
[04:21] <maco> ScottK: but....that was last year
[04:21] <ScottK> Yes, but last year's schedule was cargo culted to this year.
[04:22] <ScottK> And at UDS when I tried to get it fixed, I was told it was too late.
[04:23] <maco> is final freeze in effect now too?
[04:42] <ScottK> Yep.
[04:42] <ScottK> For Main/Seeded stuff.
[04:43] <ScottK> Of course release team members can give exceptions.
[08:50] <bambee> morning
[08:59] <allee> bambee: hi, sorry. Read your comments right now.  I wasn't aware of the deadline, but I really had to leave.
[09:00] <allee> bambee cyphermox ScottK: the patch made vpnc work here again.  http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/tmp/nm-plasmiod-fix-vpnc.diff
[09:00] <allee> whoever applies it please remove the ~test1 from version string and add to changelog:
[09:01] <allee> Thx a log to cyphermox bambee and ScottK for their help.
[09:01] <allee> ^^ don't be shy. please add it ;)
[09:01] <allee> s/log/lot/
[09:01] <kubotu> allee: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"
[09:05] <bambee> allee: looks good
[09:05] <bambee> ScottK: can you approve this package ?
[09:14] <allee> FWIW: I had go to it's setup and save again. In the configfile was '2' and after the save 'dh2' .  In natty this value is not in the config file so a natty -> oneiric update is not affected
[09:16] <Riddell> grr, google calendar thinks rekonq is a mobile browser
[09:17] <fabo> Riddell: you might knwo :) how can I request a package rebuild, no changes needed?
[09:18] <Riddell> fabo: upload it with no changes
[09:18] <Riddell> I think there's a script somewhere to help that
[09:19] <Riddell> but I can't find it
[09:19] <Riddell> fabo: what's needing done?
[09:20] <fabo> Riddell: kile bug 772631
[09:21] <Riddell> fabo: well I can upload that but I'm unsure on the state of the freezes
[09:21] <allee> cyphermox, bambee: I found another problem ;)  For a new user that didn't use WLAN yet, I've now 2 times the same wlan ssid listed.  ( I use same SSID at two locations.)   lucid, ... natty didn't list them twice.   Upstream has a fix already AFAIR, but maybe it's better to ping lamarque to do a release together 4.7.2 and get all fixes instead of (endless?) cherry picking . 
[09:22] <fabo> Riddell: ok, please try. otherwise, it could be fixed in oneiric-updates?
[09:38] <bambee> allee: you should poke the maintainer about this bug, I don't find the commit :\
[09:49] <allee> bambee: I keep it on my TODO list.  First I build a pkg with all patches. 
[09:53] <allee> bambee: when you walked through upstream git log, did you have the impression that the all the changes would be okay to go into oneiric-updates like 4.7.2? 
[09:58] <bambee> Only important fixes should go to oneiric-updates, imo. Like crashes fixes, rendering bugs, connections bugs etc... <-- also some of these commits fix bugs introduced by earlier commits, after our snapshot. We should only fix bugs found with our snapshot.
[09:59] <bambee> since there are no releases or tags... it does not help :\
[10:03] <bambee> Riddell: for the next cycle, if you want to improve your french you should go to #kde-fr :D
[10:03] <Riddell> ah oui
[10:04] <bambee> hehe ;)
[10:04] <Riddell> kile 1:2.1.0-1build1 (Waiting for approval)
[10:08] <allee> bambee: okay. 
[10:31] <ScottK> bambee: I'll accept it, but someone else needs to upload it.
[10:32] <Riddell> fabo: kile 1:2.1.0-1build1 (Accepted)
[10:32] <ScottK> I just accepted another Qt upload, so if there's other stuff to go in, now's a good time.
[10:33] <fabo> Riddell: thanks!
[10:39] <ScottK> Riddell: Would you be around to approve an akonadi upload shortly?  I'm going to move us to the head of the 1.6 branch for more bug fixes.  For Akonadi/Kdepim we need all we can get.
[10:39] <Riddell> ScottK: sure
[10:39] <ScottK> Great.
[10:39] <Riddell> ScottK: does upstream approve?
[10:39] <ScottK> I think so.
[10:39] <ScottK> I honestly lost track.
[10:48] <ScottK> That and the current released state of akonadi/pim is such complete crap I doubt I'd trust their opinion much either way.
[11:01] <ScottK> Riddell: Uploaded.
[11:05] <allee> ScottK: as blogged trueg does nepomuk bug fixing at the moment.  Maybe it's worth that someone (shadeslayer?) has a look at nepomuk 4.7.* branch
[11:06] <ScottK> Certainly.
[11:06] <ScottK> Although unlike kmail, I've never gotten nepomuk to do anything useful for me, so personally, I think it's less critical.
[11:07] <Riddell> I'm using nepomuk quite a bit now for file searches
[11:07] <Riddell> I expect if I used kmail I'd use it for e-mail searches too
[11:10] <ScottK> I didn't manage to get it to work at all, but it admittedly hasn't been a priority.
[11:10] <ScottK> It's only recently I had a laptop that it was feasible to have it enabled.
[11:13] <allee> what an accident or not: we talked about nepomuk and now no kde app starts anymore.   I get soprano error msg :(
[11:21] <keffie_jayx> guys after upgrading a machine from 11.04 to 11.10, kontact won't start.
[11:22] <keffie_jayx> it starts but kmail doesn't seem to be configured properly with akonadi
[11:22] <keffie_jayx> Failed to fetch the resource collection
[11:23] <keffie_jayx> the migration did not give me any errors though
[11:27] <keffie_jayx> anyone had that same issue, I am unsure wether to report this as a bug...
[11:51] <shadeslayer> phew
[11:51] <shadeslayer> finally, interwebz is back
[11:58] <shadeslayer> ScottK: did you upload akonadi already? I looked at the 1.6 branch yesterday, seemed they pushed in a couple of bug fixes
[12:01] <shadeslayer> keffie_jayx: yeah, iirc ejat had the same issue
[12:01] <shadeslayer> but that was on unity
[12:15] <keffie_jayx> shadeslayer: nop, kde 4.7.1
[12:15] <keffie_jayx> desktop-plasma
[12:15] <keffie_jayx> shadeslayer: I failed to see a bug report, Should I file a bug in the KDE Bugzilla?
[12:16] <keffie_jayx> I believe there is a bug filed somewhere else and there is a workaround for this but It didn't work for me
[12:16] <shadeslayer> keffie_jayx: wait a day or two, ScottK is going to upload a new akonadi that might solve your issue
[12:16] <keffie_jayx> cool
[12:28] <ryanakca> Would everybody kindly give the new wiki theme a spin? Select kubuntu-light from the dropdown menu on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Home?action=userprefs&sub=prefs
[12:32] <ScottK> shadeslayer: I did.
[12:32] <shadeslayer> cool
[12:32] <shadeslayer> keffie_jayx: ^ please test if updates fix your issue
[12:33] <ScottK> It's not accepted yet.
[12:33] <keffie_jayx> ok
[12:33] <keffie_jayx> There is a dependency issue today
[12:33] <ScottK> I'd ask claydoh if he's seen that issue and if he has any recommendations.
[12:33] <keffie_jayx> lib32asound2 : Depends: libasound2 (= 1.0.24.1-0ubuntu9)
[12:35] <ScottK> Archive skew.  Just wait a bit.
[12:35] <allee> ryanakca: wiki.kubuntu.org gives Internal server error
[12:35] <allee> :)
[12:36] <shadeslayer> it's still saving stuff for me
[12:36] <ryanakca> allee: Oh no. Try refreshing.
[12:36]  * shadeslayer hits save again
[12:37] <ScottK> I get it too.
[12:37] <ScottK> (Internal server error)
[12:38] <ryanakca> Oh, I do too
[12:38] <shadeslayer> wohoo, works for me
[12:38] <shadeslayer> took some time to save, but works
[12:39] <shadeslayer> the wiki now fits my desktop xD
[12:39] <ryanakca> Works here too now.
[12:41] <ryanakca> allee: What URL were you after, just http://wiki.kubuntu.org/ ?
[12:41] <allee> ryanakca: yes.  And now works again
[12:43] <allee> ryanakca: FWIW: take me some time to find logout (I search it upper right  not in between the menu items
[12:44] <allee> ryanakca: I've a bigger default font in firefox.  Now the 'More Action' menu uses a bigger fond compared to the items on the left and right. the font even looks boldface
[12:45] <shadeslayer> ryanakca++
[12:46] <ryanakca> shadeslayer: Thanks, but newz2000++ mostly, I just switch around a few colours ;)
[12:46] <shadeslayer> well, you got it deployed, so thats no mean feat as well
[12:48] <allee> ryanakca: other than that: really nice layout!   Looks really fresh and, well, light ;)
[13:31] <ScottK> ryanakca: Looks very nice.
[15:31] <allee> agateau: reports due to globalmenu, go they bugs.kde  or to launchpad.   E.g. konsole: remove 'Show menu'  when globalmenu is active.  a) does not work, b) makes no sense.     Similar for rekonqs pseudo menu button in upper right corner:  Not needed with globalmenu.
[16:14]  * yofel hugs ryanakca for the wiki theme
[16:31] <dpm> debfx, all digikam and kipiplugins are now disabled in Launchpad
[18:46] <debfx> dpm: thanks!
[19:04] <dpm> debfx, no worries, thank you for the heads up :)
[19:15] <DarkwingDuck> jjesse: ping
[19:47] <yofel> fabo: kile is still broken
[19:52] <jjesse> DarkwingDuck pong
[19:52] <DarkwingDuck> jjesse: translated PO files have been merged to lp:kubuntu-docs and we just need to translate them with the translation script.
[19:53] <jjesse> ok
[19:53] <DarkwingDuck> jjesse: I have not tried the modified script yet.
[20:01] <DarkwingDuck> apachelogger: Hey mate, do you think a meeting prior to UDS to talk about what we want to meet about at UDS would be a good idea still?
[20:01] <apachelogger> meetings are always a good idea
[20:01] <apachelogger> if there are things to talk about
[20:02] <DarkwingDuck> apachelogger: Well, I remember from orlando last year that we were adding on lots of session at the last minute.
[20:03] <apachelogger> certainly not as many as in budapest
[20:04] <apachelogger> 50000 editions of the packaging blueprint ^^
[20:04] <DarkwingDuck> So, maybe coming to UDS with a better idea/plan might take some of that stress out of the equasion.
[20:05] <DarkwingDuck> Although, the fact that "P
[20:05] <DarkwingDuck> "P" will be a LTS.. that might help *some*
[20:05] <apachelogger> it might be a LTS
[20:05] <DarkwingDuck> might?
[20:05] <apachelogger> well, there is no official statement that it will
[20:06] <apachelogger> so until then I'd refrain from saying it will be LTS :P
[20:06] <apachelogger> anywho
[20:06] <DarkwingDuck> :P:P
[20:06] <apachelogger> DarkwingDuck: if people were adding ideas and whatnot to the wiki page that would certainly help with preperatin
[20:06] <DarkwingDuck> Aye, it would. 
[20:07] <DarkwingDuck> Speaking of... I actually need to toss a few things on there.
[20:08] <DarkwingDuck> apachelogger: you have that link handy?
[20:24] <ScottK> apachelogger: There is an official statement from like two years ago.
[22:18] <fabo> yofel: that's really strange... I rebuilt the package and installed locally and it works for me...
[22:19] <yofel> it is a weird issue, if you read the full report you'll see that it was broken for me, then worked, then broke again
[22:19] <yofel> and I'm utterly clueless what's the problem
[22:19] <fabo> imo kile is out of the root cause
[22:20] <fabo> I still have the working package that I built
[22:20]  * yofel takes another attempt at finding the symbol table code
[22:22] <fabo> well, to be honest, I made a signle changes but it isn't supposed to affect the package...
[22:22] <fabo> I added a debug package, expecting to debug the issue ;)
[22:30]  * yofel wonders how to turn KILE_DEBUG() on
[22:33] <yofel> oh, fun: #define KILE_DEBUG kDebug
[22:58] <fabo> yofel: rebuilt again, worksforme. 1build1 doesn't work.
[22:58] <yofel> can you built kile from git and tell me what you get here with kdebugdialog for kile on?
[22:58] <yofel> kile(25447) KileWidget::SymbolView::mousePressEvent: math is  false , bracket is  false  and item->data(Qt::UserRole).toString() is  "6%%%%%%/usr/share/kde4/apps/kile/mathsymbols/arrows/img018arrows.png"
[22:58] <yofel> because that string with the % is wrong
[22:59] <yofel> should look about like this:
[22:59] <yofel> <1%\neq%≠%[utf8x,,]{inputenc,ucs,}%[fleqn,]{amsmath,}%This command gives nice weather!%/home/kdedev/.kde4/share/apps/kile/mathsymbols/user/img002math.png
[23:00] <apachelogger> %/%/%/%/%/%/%/|\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\|/%/%/%/%/%/%
[23:01] <apachelogger> latex people have a fetish for percents really
[23:01] <yofel> according to the spec that's too many %'s
[23:01] <yofel> :P
[23:01] <fabo> :)
[23:01] <yofel> oh fun, the key generation debug stuff is off
[23:01]  * yofel uncomments and rebuilds
[23:02] <apachelogger> / %% debug() %% //
[23:02] <apachelogger> oh IRC ate a forwards slash :(
[23:02] <yofel> ok, now to find out why image.text("Command"); returns an empty string
[23:02]  * apachelogger waves fist
[23:09]  * ScottK waves
[23:10] <yofel> uh........
[23:10]  * ScottK packages pimlibs/pim/pim-runtime snapshots again.
[23:11] <yofel> do the images get modified somehow?
[23:11] <yofel> /usr/share/kde4/apps/kile/mathsymbols/arrows/img001arrows.png != 
[23:11] <yofel> kile-2.1.0/src/data/symbols-ng/arrows/img001arrows.png
[23:11] <yofel> the whole metadata is missing
[23:11] <yofel> and thus breaks kile
[23:12] <yofel> fabo: fun bug ^
[23:13] <fabo> yep
[23:27] <yofel> *SIGH*
[23:27] <yofel> the archive buildds run optipng on the images -.-
[23:32] <apachelogger> I love it how stuff that messes with data is not optin but optout
[23:32] <apachelogger> total win
[23:33] <yofel> found the fix
[23:33] <yofel> export NO_PNG_PKG_MANGLE=1 in debian/rules
[23:34] <apachelogger> point proven
[23:34] <yofel> indeed
[23:35] <fabo> sigh
[23:36] <yofel> ScottK: can we get that into the archive *somehow* ? or will that have to wait for oneiric-updates ?
[23:36] <fabo> it was indeed buildd related
[23:36] <yofel> fabo: that explains why the PPA package worked
[23:36] <ScottK> I'll push for it to get in.
[23:36] <yofel> *and* the local builds
[23:36] <fabo> and my rebuild
[23:44] <yofel> apachelogger: can you upload this? http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/kile_2.1.0-1ubuntu1.debdiff
[23:44] <apachelogger> not at this time of day
[23:45] <yofel> you're the only one present that has upload rights for universe and isn't called scott -.-
[23:46] <apachelogger> great
[23:47] <apachelogger> dpkg-source: error: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address
[23:47] <apachelogger> all hail the bogus patches
[23:47] <yofel> oooops
[23:47] <yofel> I forgot this was synced in the meantime -.-
[23:47] <yofel> sorry
[23:48] <apachelogger> I am wondering
[23:48] <apachelogger> shouldn't the version be build1ubuntu1?
[23:49] <yofel> uh, don't we only use 'build' if we have no ubuntu changes and need a rebuild?
[23:50] <apachelogger> why yes
[23:50] <apachelogger> BUT
[23:50] <apachelogger> it is build from debian
[23:50] <apachelogger> and ontop of build1 we stuff our ubuntu changes
[23:51] <apachelogger> ScottK: opinion please?
[23:51]  * apachelogger wants to go to bed :/
[23:51] <ScottK> Drop the build.
[23:51] <apachelogger> kk
[23:51] <ScottK> Make it ubuntu1
[23:52] <apachelogger>   Uploading kile_2.1.0-1ubuntu1_source.changes: done.
[23:52] <apachelogger> Successfully uploaded packages.
[23:52] <yofel_> uh, no?
[23:52] <apachelogger> nini
[23:52] <yofel> build1 is from today/yesterday
[23:52] <yofel> gn
[23:52]  * yofel hugs apachelogger
[23:59] <ryanakca> So, any objections to turning kubuntu-light on as default wiki theme?