[01:24] maco: Because 1010 10 = 42. [04:21] ScottK: but....that was last year [04:21] Yes, but last year's schedule was cargo culted to this year. [04:22] And at UDS when I tried to get it fixed, I was told it was too late. [04:23] is final freeze in effect now too? [04:42] Yep. [04:42] For Main/Seeded stuff. [04:43] Of course release team members can give exceptions. === rickspencer3_ is now known as rickspencer3 === ubott2 is now known as ubottu === NCommander is now known as Guest93709 [08:50] morning [08:59] bambee: hi, sorry. Read your comments right now. I wasn't aware of the deadline, but I really had to leave. [09:00] bambee cyphermox ScottK: the patch made vpnc work here again. http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/tmp/nm-plasmiod-fix-vpnc.diff [09:00] whoever applies it please remove the ~test1 from version string and add to changelog: [09:01] Thx a log to cyphermox bambee and ScottK for their help. [09:01] ^^ don't be shy. please add it ;) [09:01] s/log/lot/ [09:01] allee: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed" === fabo__ is now known as fabo [09:05] allee: looks good [09:05] ScottK: can you approve this package ? [09:14] FWIW: I had go to it's setup and save again. In the configfile was '2' and after the save 'dh2' . In natty this value is not in the config file so a natty -> oneiric update is not affected [09:16] grr, google calendar thinks rekonq is a mobile browser [09:17] Riddell: you might knwo :) how can I request a package rebuild, no changes needed? [09:18] fabo: upload it with no changes [09:18] I think there's a script somewhere to help that [09:19] but I can't find it [09:19] fabo: what's needing done? [09:20] Riddell: kile bug 772631 [09:20] Launchpad bug 772631 in kile (Ubuntu) "kile don't insert the symbols on the left panel after a click" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/772631 [09:21] fabo: well I can upload that but I'm unsure on the state of the freezes [09:21] cyphermox, bambee: I found another problem ;) For a new user that didn't use WLAN yet, I've now 2 times the same wlan ssid listed. ( I use same SSID at two locations.) lucid, ... natty didn't list them twice. Upstream has a fix already AFAIR, but maybe it's better to ping lamarque to do a release together 4.7.2 and get all fixes instead of (endless?) cherry picking . [09:22] Riddell: ok, please try. otherwise, it could be fixed in oneiric-updates? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [09:38] allee: you should poke the maintainer about this bug, I don't find the commit :\ [09:49] bambee: I keep it on my TODO list. First I build a pkg with all patches. [09:53] bambee: when you walked through upstream git log, did you have the impression that the all the changes would be okay to go into oneiric-updates like 4.7.2? === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [09:58] Only important fixes should go to oneiric-updates, imo. Like crashes fixes, rendering bugs, connections bugs etc... <-- also some of these commits fix bugs introduced by earlier commits, after our snapshot. We should only fix bugs found with our snapshot. [09:59] since there are no releases or tags... it does not help :\ [10:03] Riddell: for the next cycle, if you want to improve your french you should go to #kde-fr :D [10:03] ah oui [10:04] hehe ;) [10:04] kile 1:2.1.0-1build1 (Waiting for approval) [10:08] bambee: okay. [10:31] bambee: I'll accept it, but someone else needs to upload it. [10:32] fabo: kile 1:2.1.0-1build1 (Accepted) [10:32] I just accepted another Qt upload, so if there's other stuff to go in, now's a good time. [10:33] Riddell: thanks! [10:39] Riddell: Would you be around to approve an akonadi upload shortly? I'm going to move us to the head of the 1.6 branch for more bug fixes. For Akonadi/Kdepim we need all we can get. [10:39] ScottK: sure [10:39] Great. [10:39] ScottK: does upstream approve? [10:39] I think so. [10:39] I honestly lost track. [10:48] That and the current released state of akonadi/pim is such complete crap I doubt I'd trust their opinion much either way. [11:01] Riddell: Uploaded. [11:05] ScottK: as blogged trueg does nepomuk bug fixing at the moment. Maybe it's worth that someone (shadeslayer?) has a look at nepomuk 4.7.* branch [11:06] Certainly. [11:06] Although unlike kmail, I've never gotten nepomuk to do anything useful for me, so personally, I think it's less critical. [11:07] I'm using nepomuk quite a bit now for file searches [11:07] I expect if I used kmail I'd use it for e-mail searches too [11:10] I didn't manage to get it to work at all, but it admittedly hasn't been a priority. [11:10] It's only recently I had a laptop that it was feasible to have it enabled. [11:13] what an accident or not: we talked about nepomuk and now no kde app starts anymore. I get soprano error msg :( [11:21] guys after upgrading a machine from 11.04 to 11.10, kontact won't start. [11:22] it starts but kmail doesn't seem to be configured properly with akonadi [11:22] Failed to fetch the resource collection [11:23] the migration did not give me any errors though [11:27] anyone had that same issue, I am unsure wether to report this as a bug... [11:51] phew [11:51] finally, interwebz is back [11:58] ScottK: did you upload akonadi already? I looked at the 1.6 branch yesterday, seemed they pushed in a couple of bug fixes [12:01] keffie_jayx: yeah, iirc ejat had the same issue [12:01] but that was on unity [12:15] shadeslayer: nop, kde 4.7.1 [12:15] desktop-plasma [12:15] shadeslayer: I failed to see a bug report, Should I file a bug in the KDE Bugzilla? [12:16] I believe there is a bug filed somewhere else and there is a workaround for this but It didn't work for me [12:16] keffie_jayx: wait a day or two, ScottK is going to upload a new akonadi that might solve your issue [12:16] cool [12:28] Would everybody kindly give the new wiki theme a spin? Select kubuntu-light from the dropdown menu on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Home?action=userprefs&sub=prefs [12:32] shadeslayer: I did. [12:32] cool [12:32] keffie_jayx: ^ please test if updates fix your issue [12:33] It's not accepted yet. [12:33] ok [12:33] There is a dependency issue today [12:33] I'd ask claydoh if he's seen that issue and if he has any recommendations. [12:33] lib32asound2 : Depends: libasound2 (= 1.0.24.1-0ubuntu9) [12:35] Archive skew. Just wait a bit. [12:35] ryanakca: wiki.kubuntu.org gives Internal server error [12:35] :) [12:36] it's still saving stuff for me [12:36] allee: Oh no. Try refreshing. [12:36] * shadeslayer hits save again [12:37] I get it too. [12:37] (Internal server error) [12:38] Oh, I do too [12:38] wohoo, works for me [12:38] took some time to save, but works [12:39] the wiki now fits my desktop xD [12:39] Works here too now. [12:41] allee: What URL were you after, just http://wiki.kubuntu.org/ ? [12:41] ryanakca: yes. And now works again [12:43] ryanakca: FWIW: take me some time to find logout (I search it upper right not in between the menu items [12:44] ryanakca: I've a bigger default font in firefox. Now the 'More Action' menu uses a bigger fond compared to the items on the left and right. the font even looks boldface [12:45] ryanakca++ [12:46] shadeslayer: Thanks, but newz2000++ mostly, I just switch around a few colours ;) [12:46] well, you got it deployed, so thats no mean feat as well [12:48] ryanakca: other than that: really nice layout! Looks really fresh and, well, light ;) [13:31] ryanakca: Looks very nice. [15:31] agateau: reports due to globalmenu, go they bugs.kde or to launchpad. E.g. konsole: remove 'Show menu' when globalmenu is active. a) does not work, b) makes no sense. Similar for rekonqs pseudo menu button in upper right corner: Not needed with globalmenu. [16:14] * yofel hugs ryanakca for the wiki theme [16:31] debfx, all digikam and kipiplugins are now disabled in Launchpad [18:46] dpm: thanks! [19:04] debfx, no worries, thank you for the heads up :) [19:15] jjesse: ping [19:47] fabo: kile is still broken [19:52] DarkwingDuck pong [19:52] jjesse: translated PO files have been merged to lp:kubuntu-docs and we just need to translate them with the translation script. [19:53] ok [19:53] jjesse: I have not tried the modified script yet. [20:01] apachelogger: Hey mate, do you think a meeting prior to UDS to talk about what we want to meet about at UDS would be a good idea still? [20:01] meetings are always a good idea [20:01] if there are things to talk about [20:02] apachelogger: Well, I remember from orlando last year that we were adding on lots of session at the last minute. [20:03] certainly not as many as in budapest [20:04] 50000 editions of the packaging blueprint ^^ [20:04] So, maybe coming to UDS with a better idea/plan might take some of that stress out of the equasion. [20:05] Although, the fact that "P [20:05] "P" will be a LTS.. that might help *some* [20:05] it might be a LTS [20:05] might? [20:05] well, there is no official statement that it will [20:06] so until then I'd refrain from saying it will be LTS :P [20:06] anywho [20:06] :P:P [20:06] DarkwingDuck: if people were adding ideas and whatnot to the wiki page that would certainly help with preperatin [20:06] Aye, it would. [20:07] Speaking of... I actually need to toss a few things on there. [20:08] apachelogger: you have that link handy? === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu: Friendly Computing | Feature Freeze in effect | Archive Frozen | Kubuntu 11.10 Beta 2 Released! | TODO: http://goo.gl/BD9JL | UDS Ideas: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Specs/UDS-P [20:24] apachelogger: There is an official statement from like two years ago. === skreech_ is now known as Daskreech [22:18] yofel: that's really strange... I rebuilt the package and installed locally and it works for me... [22:19] it is a weird issue, if you read the full report you'll see that it was broken for me, then worked, then broke again [22:19] and I'm utterly clueless what's the problem [22:19] imo kile is out of the root cause [22:20] I still have the working package that I built [22:20] * yofel takes another attempt at finding the symbol table code [22:22] well, to be honest, I made a signle changes but it isn't supposed to affect the package... [22:22] I added a debug package, expecting to debug the issue ;) [22:30] * yofel wonders how to turn KILE_DEBUG() on [22:33] oh, fun: #define KILE_DEBUG kDebug [22:58] yofel: rebuilt again, worksforme. 1build1 doesn't work. [22:58] can you built kile from git and tell me what you get here with kdebugdialog for kile on? [22:58] kile(25447) KileWidget::SymbolView::mousePressEvent: math is false , bracket is false and item->data(Qt::UserRole).toString() is "6%%%%%%/usr/share/kde4/apps/kile/mathsymbols/arrows/img018arrows.png" [22:58] because that string with the % is wrong [22:59] should look about like this: [22:59] <1%\neq%≠%[utf8x,,]{inputenc,ucs,}%[fleqn,]{amsmath,}%This command gives nice weather!%/home/kdedev/.kde4/share/apps/kile/mathsymbols/user/img002math.png [23:00] %/%/%/%/%/%/%/|\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\|/%/%/%/%/%/% [23:01] latex people have a fetish for percents really [23:01] according to the spec that's too many %'s [23:01] :P [23:01] :) [23:01] oh fun, the key generation debug stuff is off [23:01] * yofel uncomments and rebuilds [23:02] / %% debug() %% // [23:02] oh IRC ate a forwards slash :( [23:02] ok, now to find out why image.text("Command"); returns an empty string [23:02] * apachelogger waves fist [23:09] * ScottK waves [23:10] uh........ [23:10] * ScottK packages pimlibs/pim/pim-runtime snapshots again. [23:11] do the images get modified somehow? [23:11] /usr/share/kde4/apps/kile/mathsymbols/arrows/img001arrows.png != [23:11] kile-2.1.0/src/data/symbols-ng/arrows/img001arrows.png [23:11] the whole metadata is missing [23:11] and thus breaks kile [23:12] fabo: fun bug ^ [23:13] yep [23:27] *SIGH* [23:27] the archive buildds run optipng on the images -.- [23:32] I love it how stuff that messes with data is not optin but optout [23:32] total win [23:33] found the fix [23:33] export NO_PNG_PKG_MANGLE=1 in debian/rules [23:34] point proven [23:34] indeed [23:35] sigh [23:36] ScottK: can we get that into the archive *somehow* ? or will that have to wait for oneiric-updates ? [23:36] it was indeed buildd related [23:36] fabo: that explains why the PPA package worked [23:36] I'll push for it to get in. [23:36] *and* the local builds [23:36] and my rebuild [23:44] apachelogger: can you upload this? http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/kile_2.1.0-1ubuntu1.debdiff [23:44] not at this time of day [23:45] you're the only one present that has upload rights for universe and isn't called scott -.- [23:46] great [23:47] dpkg-source: error: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address [23:47] all hail the bogus patches [23:47] oooops [23:47] I forgot this was synced in the meantime -.- [23:47] sorry [23:48] I am wondering [23:48] shouldn't the version be build1ubuntu1? [23:49] uh, don't we only use 'build' if we have no ubuntu changes and need a rebuild? [23:50] why yes [23:50] BUT [23:50] it is build from debian [23:50] and ontop of build1 we stuff our ubuntu changes [23:51] ScottK: opinion please? [23:51] * apachelogger wants to go to bed :/ [23:51] Drop the build. [23:51] kk [23:51] Make it ubuntu1 [23:52] Uploading kile_2.1.0-1ubuntu1_source.changes: done. [23:52] Successfully uploaded packages. [23:52] uh, no? [23:52] nini === yofel_ is now known as yofel [23:52] build1 is from today/yesterday [23:52] gn [23:52] * yofel hugs apachelogger [23:59] So, any objections to turning kubuntu-light on as default wiki theme?