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dholbachgood morning06:03
nigelbMorning dholbach!06:09
nigelbI'm in <3 with Ubuntu Mono today :-)06:10
dholbachhi nigelb06:16
dholbachI like it too :)06:16
jussihrr, still no answer from james_w...06:26
nigelbjussi: I think he's away this week.06:29
jussioh :)06:29
jussiwell I suppose thats ok then :P06:29
dholbachPendulum, happy birthday! :)06:53
nigelbooh07:03
nigelbHAPPY BIRTHDAY Pendulum :)07:03
* jussi sings happy birthday to Pendulum07:25
kim0Morning07:57
kim0Pendulum: Happy bday :)07:57
dholbachkim0, صباح الخير!07:57
kim0dholbach: hehe saba7 el noor :)07:58
dholbachkim0, كيف حالك، أخي؟08:00
kim0man you're good :)08:00
nigelbArabic looks good on the new font!08:00
dholbachkim0, it's still the 5 words you told me - I need more vocabulary08:00
dholbachso, how are you doing? :)08:01
kim0Going good, how about you08:02
kim0do I need to reboot to get ubuntu-mono in my terminal08:02
dholbachyou might have to tell the terminal to make use of it08:03
dholbachin the profile settings08:03
kim0hmm, it uses "system default"08:04
kim0wonder where that is config'ed08:04
dpmthere used to be a general fonts configuration dialog08:05
dholbachI have no idea where to do that - probably just using dconf-editor or some such08:05
dpmI'm not sure where that's gone now we're using gnome-control-center08:05
dholbachit was in gnome-appearance-properties08:05
dholbachbut that's gone for good AFAIK08:05
dholbachdconf-editor → org.gnome.desktop.interface → monospace-font-name ?08:06
dpmspeaking of gone features, does anyone know where to set the user picture?08:07
dholbachdpm, if you don't look like http://cdn4.iconfinder.com/data/icons/gnome-desktop-icons-png/PNG/64/Gnome-Stock-Person-64.png that's not our desktop's problem! :-P08:09
dpmdholbach, that one lacks a beard ;)08:09
nigelblol08:10
dholbachwe got rid of the beard person AGES ago08:10
nigelbdpm: More specifically, it lacks a neck beard :P08:10
dholbachhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-icon-theme/+bug/2417708:10
ubot2Ubuntu bug 24177 in gnome-icon-theme "Default user account icon shouldn't be bearded man" [Medium,Fix released]08:10
dpmyeah, I remember that one :)08:11
nigelbwhat the...08:15
kim0gnome-tweak-tool08:28
kim0does the font thing08:28
* kim0 reboots08:29
dholbachjcastro, if you want to have a dev session at UOW let me know09:02
dholbachdibs on one or two early slots09:02
czajkowskialoha09:10
czajkowskidholbach: got a min for a pm please?09:10
dholbachsure09:18
dholbachczajkowski, ^09:19
dholbachalright my friends - I call it a day earlier today, so the 750km on the highway are more managable today10:09
dholbachhave a great weekend!10:09
czajkowskidholbach: bye10:11
dholbachbye :)10:13
Pendulumkim0: nigelb: thanks!10:35
Pendulumjussi: thanks!10:42
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akgraneranyone having issues getting to the Fridge or rather can someone go to fridge.ubuntu.com and see what you get  - please and thank you12:28
akgranerhmm I guess it is just slow..12:29
cjohnstonakgraner: i got a 50412:30
akgranerthanks12:31
Pendulumakgraner: It loads for me, just takes ages to do so12:31
AlanBelleventually loaded here12:31
akgranerok - having it looked into12:32
akgranerthanks y'all12:32
akgraner:-)12:32
akgranerdpm,  what's the # for ubuntu developers now you want people to use?12:36
dpmhey akgraner, #ubuntuappdev - it's on http://developer.ubuntu.com/community/ for reference12:37
* akgraner updates my lovely post-it note wall of important stuff to remember :-)12:38
akgranerthanks!12:38
akgranerhmm what does it mean when you get "DB Error - no database selected" when trying to post to identi.ca from Qwibber - I didn't get that yesterday  (I just updated so updates to my natty machine this morning - hmmm)12:44
akgraners/so/some12:44
akgranerok so IS says it's not on their part can some see if you can get to the fridge again b/c I know it's not just me \12:55
akgranerhey did you all know about this site? http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/fridge.ubuntu.com12:59
akgranerI just found out about it so I thought I would share12:59
czajkowskiyeah tis kinda handy alright13:05
akgranermore to add to my post it notes :-)13:12
czajkowski:)13:12
akgranerIt will be my new wallpaper soon13:13
czajkowskihttp://www.bcs.org/content/ConWebDoc/41634 heading there this year for ada lovelace day13:35
* mhall119 hopes akgraner is using Tomboy instead of physical post-its14:51
jcastroAlanBell: robbie ended up fixing the logos yesterday before I got to it14:54
jcastrobut, virtual high five anyway!14:54
AlanBell^514:55
* AlanBell is off for a curry14:56
PendulumAlanBell: have a good curry :)14:59
jcastroman15:20
jcastroawesome15:20
jcastrohttp://www.thisisthecountdown.com/15:20
jcastrohas anyone seen this?15:20
nigelbjcastro: ZOMG15:22
akgranerjcastro, nice!15:35
akgranermhall119, I use both :-)15:35
czajkowskijbut oneieic is out in 13 days no ?15:40
Pendulumczajkowski: I wondered about that as well15:42
czajkowskijcastro: ^^15:47
* popey cranks the rumour mill to 1115:47
popeywhat if it's not the release15:47
popeywhat if it's a computer running ubuntu15:47
popey'a whole new computer'15:47
akgranerWhat happens on the 11th?15:51
akgraneror 10th besides Columbus Day?15:51
akgraneranyone join the IRC channel yet15:51
akgranerpopey, and nigelb are there..:-)15:53
nigelb:D15:53
cjohnstonthe 12th is columbus day15:53
akgranercjohnston, celebrated on the 10th this year15:54
akgranerwell observed15:54
cjohnstonakgraner: i know.. my birthday is the 12th.. thats why i say something15:55
akgranerhehe15:55
akgranerHappy Early b-day!15:55
nigelbcjohnston: Happy Birthday old man :P15:56
* nigelb runs. Fast.15:56
cjohnstondont worry nigelb.. youll get yours15:57
nigelbheh15:57
jcastromhall119: can I play with the slots?16:28
nigelbI read that as "Can I play with fire and explosives?"16:28
cjohnstonjcastro: why wouldnt you be able to16:29
jcastrobecause last time I did that the entire thing crashed16:29
nigelbYes, see my comment.16:29
cjohnstonwell.. when you play, thats always an option16:30
jcastroI'm not playing16:31
nigelbheh16:31
jcastroI have to put these retarded slots in there because Scott made a decision 56 years ago.16:31
jcastroand now I can't even yell at him. :(16:31
jcastrook I'm going in there, if it breaks, don't say I didn't warn you!16:31
cjohnstonwhat slots?16:31
nigelbjcastro: Now you *call* yell at him without losing your job :P16:32
jcastrothe plenary slots16:32
nigelb*can*16:32
cjohnstonahh16:32
cjohnstonwhat can be done to make it better?16:32
jcastrolike in gcal16:35
jcastrohow you can just extend meetings to be long or short16:35
jcastroand remove the whole concept of slots16:35
nigelbAh. Wishlist for next cycle. We'll try.16:35
jcastrojust genning the slots automatically will be enough16:36
jcastrohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/summit/+bug/85558616:37
ubot2Launchpad bug 855586 in summit "init-slots makes plenaries too long" [Low,Triaged]16:37
jcastronigelb: mhall119 or cjohnston: any idea why the slots on wednesday aren't showing up?16:50
jcastrothey're in the system, I added them like the other ones16:50
jcastrobut they don't display for some reason when you go to Wednesday16:50
* nigelb ooks16:52
nigelb*looks16:52
nigelbjcastro: I seee them16:52
nigelblooks like you put normal lots instead of plenary though16:52
jcastroit's plenary in the admin16:53
jcastrolet me check again16:53
cjohnstonim thinking something with that last room16:53
jcastrooh dude16:53
cjohnstonboca vi16:53
jcastro2 if the slots are normal16:54
jcastroand cover the plenary slots16:54
jcastrolet me try this16:54
nigelbhaha16:54
jcastrohey alright16:55
jcastroDONE!16:55
jcastroand I didn't even crash summit16:55
* jcastro eats on yummy crow16:55
cjohnstonwhat did you do jcastro16:55
jcastrocreated plenary slots without crashing summit16:55
jcastroit's like, a first.16:55
cjohnstoni was referring to how16:56
cjohnstonsee.. summit much more betterrer16:56
jcastrohey so what's ""plenary talk" vs. "plenary"17:00
cjohnstonuhh17:00
kim0jcastro: is there a list of plenaries somewhere17:14
jcastroyes17:14
jcastrohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-P?17:14
jcastroI am scheduling them today17:15
jcastroand we don't have enough room, so if you're thinking of one, do a lightning talk instead17:15
mhall119jcastro: you sorted?17:17
jcastroI am all set, thanks17:17
jcastrojono: oh also the guidebook is set17:53
jcastrothey have all the sponsors and crap and the maps and stuff in there17:53
nigelbjcastro: YOU ARE AWESOME17:54
nigelb:)17:54
jcastromhall119: is something bad happening? summit just started grinding18:06
jcastrohuh weird18:07
jcastronow it's normal again18:07
mhall119jcastro: not that I know of, but cranberry is still questionably stable in my book18:09
jcastrok18:09
jcastroso hey has anyone thought about this room thing?18:09
jcastrowith the thing being too wide?18:09
jcastrojames_w: around?18:09
mhall119ah damn, we're getting memory errors again18:10
mhall119jcastro: I told you to buy bigger screens18:10
nigelbmhall119: cranberry playing bad again?18:11
nigelbdid you notice tomorrow is 1st?18:11
jcastrook so this is going to be a real problem then?18:11
nigelbYes, can you escalate higher?18:12
nigelbor get us a large ec218:12
jcastrono I mean the screens18:12
nigelbah, yes.18:12
jcastromhall119: wanna just move it over to canonistack?18:13
mhall119jcastro: no18:13
jcastroawwww18:14
jcastrobut it looks like so much fun!18:14
mhall119it is fun18:14
jcastroheh18:14
mhall119but not ready to host critical production code18:14
jcastrook, so really, what do we need to do18:14
jcastroRT and escalate?18:14
mhall119yeah, at this point maybe we need to request provisioning a new server just for summit until we can figure it out18:15
jcastrook if you can file the ticket I will get it escalated.18:15
jcastroshoot me a # when you get it.18:16
mhall119ok18:16
jcastroand I've got a machine in mind, but after the openstack summit18:16
jcastromaybe IS will let us keep this monster box for the demo18:16
jcastrothough if I was them I wouldn't, heh18:16
jcastrois 40 cores and 128GB of ram enough for summit?18:16
* jcastro evil grins18:16
mhall119jcastro: can we re-use RT #17895 ?18:16
jcastrosure18:17
jcastromhall119: robbie is wondering if that's the right ticket #18:20
mhall119jcastro: it's the one we used to have them try and see what's using the memory18:24
mhall119jcastro: https://rt.ubuntu.com//Ticket/Display.html?id=1789518:24
jcastromhall119: ok can  you add something to the effect that the issue isn't sorted?18:25
jcastroand then I'll ask robbie to bump it18:26
mhall119jcastro: you want me to copy robbie on it?18:28
jcastroyes please18:29
mhall119done18:29
jcastropopey: heya18:33
jcastroyou seem to be in the know18:33
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popey                   18:33
popeysorry, go on18:33
jcastronice18:33
jcastroso like, how does it work if you post something18:33
jcastroon g+18:33
popeyyou choose who to post to18:33
popeywhich circles18:33
jcastroright18:33
popeyI post _all_ of mine as public18:34
jcastrobut what if someone is being annoying18:34
popeyi unfollow douches18:34
jcastrobut not ... report as being bad annoying18:34
popeyde-circle18:34
jcastrook18:34
popeythen i only see when they reply to other people or reshare my stuff18:34
jcastrohow do I prevent someone from posting who isn't in my circle?18:34
popeyi dont see their posts unless i feel like clicking on them or someone i know reshares18:34
jcastroI just don't post public? just to my extended circles?18:34
popeydont post public18:34
popeyyeah18:34
jcastroand what does the extended mean, it doesn't let friends of a friend post does it?18:35
popeypass18:35
popeyi think so18:35
jcastrok18:35
popeycan i get back to ordering dominos now? :D18:35
jcastroI just want to make sure I don't get trolled18:35
jcastroooh, dominos!18:35
popeyhehe18:35
popeyyes, king of pizza18:35
popeyI _love_ dominos18:35
jcastrojono: here, use this one for that conversation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0la5DBtOVNI18:36
popeyhaha18:36
jonojcastro, lol18:36
popeyi have someone being a douche at me on G+ _right_ _now_18:38
jcastropopey: remember when I asked you if that Fab guy was a troll? And you kind of avoided the question?18:38
jcastroI don't really need your answer now.18:38
jcastro:)18:38
popeylol18:38
popeysaying i should move him from my random circle to ubuntu circle18:38
popeyhe's not in any of my circles18:38
popeyjcastro: i dont follow fab anywhere18:38
popeyi actively avoid him where possible18:38
jcastrothe tone of that conversation is basically why no one reads identica18:39
popey_exactly_18:39
jcastroit's like, a dogpile of a few people talking about how much better they are than every one else18:40
jcastroand then they ruin it for every one else18:40
jcastrowhich unfortunately leads to "why would I use Free network services when people just yell at me?"18:40
popeydude, we're on the same page :D18:40
jcastroI don't see the argument of forcing people to use services as being free at all18:41
popeyi love that dominos accepts paypal18:42
popeymeans I can be a fat lazy oaf and not go and get my wallet18:42
jcastromhall119: ok so next thought18:42
jcastroiirc orlando was one huge L shaped thing18:42
jcastroinstead of monitors18:42
jcastrowhat about a projector on the one huge wall18:42
jcastropopey: I wish you could have like, anti-circles18:45
jcastrolike say "stupid people"18:45
popeyoh i have an 'asshats' circle18:45
popeyso far only one person in it18:46
jcastrooooh18:46
jcastroso what do you get by having them in a circle vs. just not following them?18:46
popeythey think you're interested in what they have to say18:46
popeywhen in fact you just laugh at every utterance18:47
popeyi should get out more18:47
jcastrooh18:47
jcastroso I heard this concept they use on some communities18:47
jcastrothat is totally brilliant18:47
jcastrohave you ever heard of hellbanning?18:47
popeyno18:47
jcastrook so18:47
jcastroassume a forum or something18:47
jcastrosome guy is just being an idiot, and never reforms, etc.18:48
jcastroso you hellban them18:48
jcastrothen, they are the only ones that see their posts18:48
jcastrobut no one else does18:48
popeyhaha18:48
jcastroso they flail and flail and think people are ignoring them18:48
jcastrothen they just go somewhere else18:48
popeythats an interesting way of doing it18:48
jcastroso while they keep replying and being themselves, the normal community isn't affected, and the guy thinks people are just ignoring him, and then moves on to youtube comments or wherever people like that hang out.18:49
popeydid you see that blog post i think zonker shared, woman who gets loads of hatemail?18:50
jcastroit's totally genious, though a little dishonest tbh18:50
jcastroKathy Sierra18:50
jcastroshe's spoken at Guadec before18:50
jcastrohow to build passionate communities, etc.18:50
popeyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehYoIKTsiV0 i love this18:51
mhall119jcastro: L-shaped?18:53
jcastroyeah, the venue I mean18:53
mhall119there were 3 side hallways off the main one, and the plenary room across from those18:53
jcastroright18:54
jcastroso, on the wall facing the little hallways18:54
jcastrotilt your head up.18:54
jcastroright there.18:54
jcastrobecause I am willing to bet new TVs are out of  the question, and rewriting that viewer part in summit is asking for torture.18:55
mhall119jcastro: http://www.thecaribeorlando.com/uploadedImages/Meetings_And_Events/Floor_Plans_Capacity_Charts/cro_conventionCenterMap.gif?n=917618:55
jcastroyeah, see where it says Foyer18:56
jcastroface east18:56
jcastroand up, above the doors18:56
jcastroanother solution would be18:57
jcastroin each hallway18:57
jcastrowhere a TV is18:57
mhall119jcastro: I don't remember18:57
jcastrohorizontal scroll to the group of rooms that hallway is18:58
mhall119jcastro: cjohnston might be willing to stop by and scout it out though18:58
jcastroah nuts though18:58
jcastroit's still a resolution problem18:58
jcastrothe projector would need to be way more high rez18:59
mhall119jcastro: we can scale down the size of the blocks, but it's hard enough to fit text into them18:59
jcastrook normally how many columns, 9?19:00
mhall119the blocks are fix-width at 100px, IIRC19:00
cjohnstonjcastro: we were trying to find out from james_w if linaro wanted to seperate summits...19:00
jcastroman, 24 rooms19:00
mhall119what's the horizontal resolution of the screens?19:00
cjohnstonmhall119: or we could do like what they have done, where if you go to s.l.o they ONLY display linaro stuff..19:00
jcastrowell, they're 1080p TVs right?19:01
jcastroso 1920?19:01
mhall119cjohnston: do we have linaro-only rooms?19:02
jcastrook, one solution could be leave the layout the same, but then every 30 seconds show the other part of the schedule, and then just alternate19:02
jcastrolike airport monitors do19:03
mhall119:P19:03
popeymarquee19:03
jcastroor find a firefox extension that marquee's horizontal scrolling, lol19:03
mhall119let's just attach a kinect to each one and let people do Minority Report style scrolling19:03
mhall119don't the Linaro guys have something for that?19:04
jcastrohttps://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/autoscroll-for-musicians/19:05
jcastroso like this19:05
jcastrobut left/right19:05
jcastrocome to think of it, that would be handy during allstars too heh19:05
mhall119jcastro: are the hackfest rooms only going to be used for hackfests?19:06
jcastroyes19:06
jcastrobut only in the afternoons19:06
jcastroin the morning, sessions19:06
mhall119ok19:06
jcastro(already tried to think about that)19:06
mhall119so how many rooms do we have?19:06
jcastro2419:06
jcastrojust counted19:06
mhall119can we do 12 on one screen and 12 on another?19:07
jcastroright19:07
cjohnstondo we have enough screens for that19:08
jcastroasking19:08
jcastrook so if we have the screens or not19:13
jcastroeither way we need to split the schedule right?19:13
jcastrolike19:13
mhall119right19:13
jcastrosummit.ubuntu.com/$day-part1 and part2 or something19:13
jcastroand then we either have 2 screens, or we set the firefox tabs one on each part of the day and set them to like, auto flip back and forth every 30 seconds19:14
mhall119it'll be more like summit.ubuntu.com/uds-p/2011-10-31/?rooms=21&page=119:14
jcastrosure sure19:14
mhall119on 12 instead of 2119:14
jcastrohttps://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tab-slideshow/19:15
jcastrobooyah19:15
jcastrothere's the badget19:15
jcastrobadger even!19:15
* mhall119 wishes ctrl+left-click worked like middle click in Unity Launcher19:15
jcastromhall119: ok so elmo hasn't responded yet, I'm going to go get caffeine refills, bbiab19:16
jcastroI'll have a think while I walk to the store.19:16
jcastrobbi1519:16
mhall119dlawson responded19:20
PendulumPici: Happy Birthday!19:21
mhall119jcastro: given that this problem struck both Summit and LoCo Directory at the same time, I'm not inclined to belive it's something in their application code19:21
cjohnstonmhall119: what needs to be done to update for the new openid19:22
cjohnstonmhall119: and i get errors with status19:22
mhall119cjohnston: out of memory errors?19:25
cjohnstonyup19:25
nigelbMy theory is status is screwing up everything else.19:26
cjohnstonmhall119: http://paste.ubuntu.com/700027/19:26
nigelb:P19:26
nigelbjcastro: I USE THAT EVERY DAY AND DIDN'T REMEMBER THAT.19:26
nigelb(tab slide show)19:26
nigelbI use it for Nagios on a big screen at work.19:29
jcastrooh dude mhall11919:39
jcastrosciri says the schedules are separate19:39
jcastrowe should be fine!19:39
mhall119jcastro: what does that mean?19:45
jcastro"Our AV vendor only has 8 45" plasmas total. The currently layout is 1 confidence monitor for the plenary, 4 UDS schedules, and 3 LDS schedules."19:48
jcastrojcastro: Well, I'm not 100% sure. We will have 4 UDS-branded schedules and 3 LDS-branded schedules. I don't know if that means the UDS schedules are UDS-only and the LDS schedules are LDS-only, or if it's just a branding change.19:48
jcastrook so basically, I think james_w can answer that question19:49
jcastrobut he always is all quiet when we talk about UDS19:49
* jcastro jiggles james_w 19:49
PiciPendulum: Thanks! :)20:01
jcastrohey popey20:02
jcastroyou about?20:02
popeyhm?20:03
jcastroit's friday, Jason and I are going to do a hangout and just do ubuntu stuff20:03
jcastrochat, etc.20:03
popey:D20:03
jcastrocome be english with us20:03
popeyk20:03
popeyyay, killed the browser20:06
PiciPendulum: Happy birthday to you too ;)20:07
PendulumPici: thank you!20:08
cjohnstonjcastro: http://summit.linaro.org/uds-p/2011-10-31/20:23
cjohnstonI think we should figure out a way to split off their rooms20:23
popeyjcastro: clicked exit by accident!20:37
popeycant get back in20:37
popeycant get back in20:37
mhall119Pendulum: happy birtday23:06

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