=== IdleOne is now known as Guest13541 [06:03] good morning [06:09] Morning dholbach! [06:10] I'm in <3 with Ubuntu Mono today :-) [06:16] hi nigelb [06:16] I like it too :) [06:26] hrr, still no answer from james_w... [06:29] jussi: I think he's away this week. [06:29] oh :) [06:29] well I suppose thats ok then :P [06:53] Pendulum, happy birthday! :) [07:03] ooh [07:03] HAPPY BIRTHDAY Pendulum :) [07:25] * jussi sings happy birthday to Pendulum [07:57] Morning [07:57] Pendulum: Happy bday :) [07:57] kim0, صباح الخير! [07:58] dholbach: hehe saba7 el noor :) [08:00] kim0, كيف حالك، أخي؟ [08:00] man you're good :) [08:00] Arabic looks good on the new font! [08:00] kim0, it's still the 5 words you told me - I need more vocabulary [08:01] so, how are you doing? :) [08:02] Going good, how about you [08:02] do I need to reboot to get ubuntu-mono in my terminal [08:03] you might have to tell the terminal to make use of it [08:03] in the profile settings [08:04] hmm, it uses "system default" [08:04] wonder where that is config'ed [08:05] there used to be a general fonts configuration dialog [08:05] I have no idea where to do that - probably just using dconf-editor or some such [08:05] I'm not sure where that's gone now we're using gnome-control-center [08:05] it was in gnome-appearance-properties [08:05] but that's gone for good AFAIK [08:06] dconf-editor → org.gnome.desktop.interface → monospace-font-name ? [08:07] speaking of gone features, does anyone know where to set the user picture? [08:09] dpm, if you don't look like http://cdn4.iconfinder.com/data/icons/gnome-desktop-icons-png/PNG/64/Gnome-Stock-Person-64.png that's not our desktop's problem! :-P [08:09] dholbach, that one lacks a beard ;) [08:10] lol [08:10] we got rid of the beard person AGES ago [08:10] dpm: More specifically, it lacks a neck beard :P [08:10] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-icon-theme/+bug/24177 [08:10] Ubuntu bug 24177 in gnome-icon-theme "Default user account icon shouldn't be bearded man" [Medium,Fix released] [08:11] yeah, I remember that one :) [08:15] what the... [08:28] gnome-tweak-tool [08:28] does the font thing [08:29] * kim0 reboots [09:02] jcastro, if you want to have a dev session at UOW let me know [09:02] dibs on one or two early slots [09:10] aloha [09:10] dholbach: got a min for a pm please? [09:18] sure [09:19] czajkowski, ^ [10:09] alright my friends - I call it a day earlier today, so the 750km on the highway are more managable today [10:09] have a great weekend! [10:11] dholbach: bye [10:13] bye :) [10:35] kim0: nigelb: thanks! [10:42] jussi: thanks! === ara is now known as Guest50889 === cjohnston_ is now known as cjohnston [12:28] anyone having issues getting to the Fridge or rather can someone go to fridge.ubuntu.com and see what you get - please and thank you [12:29] hmm I guess it is just slow.. [12:30] akgraner: i got a 504 [12:31] thanks [12:31] akgraner: It loads for me, just takes ages to do so [12:31] eventually loaded here [12:32] ok - having it looked into [12:32] thanks y'all [12:32] :-) [12:36] dpm, what's the # for ubuntu developers now you want people to use? [12:37] hey akgraner, #ubuntuappdev - it's on http://developer.ubuntu.com/community/ for reference [12:38] * akgraner updates my lovely post-it note wall of important stuff to remember :-) [12:38] thanks! [12:44] hmm what does it mean when you get "DB Error - no database selected" when trying to post to identi.ca from Qwibber - I didn't get that yesterday (I just updated so updates to my natty machine this morning - hmmm) [12:44] s/so/some [12:55] ok so IS says it's not on their part can some see if you can get to the fridge again b/c I know it's not just me \ [12:59] hey did you all know about this site? http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/fridge.ubuntu.com [12:59] I just found out about it so I thought I would share [13:05] yeah tis kinda handy alright [13:12] more to add to my post it notes :-) [13:12] :) [13:13] It will be my new wallpaper soon [13:35] http://www.bcs.org/content/ConWebDoc/41634 heading there this year for ada lovelace day [14:51] * mhall119 hopes akgraner is using Tomboy instead of physical post-its [14:54] AlanBell: robbie ended up fixing the logos yesterday before I got to it [14:54] but, virtual high five anyway! [14:55] ^5 [14:56] * AlanBell is off for a curry [14:59] AlanBell: have a good curry :) [15:20] man [15:20] awesome [15:20] http://www.thisisthecountdown.com/ [15:20] has anyone seen this? [15:22] jcastro: ZOMG [15:35] jcastro, nice! [15:35] mhall119, I use both :-) [15:40] jbut oneieic is out in 13 days no ? [15:42] czajkowski: I wondered about that as well [15:47] jcastro: ^^ [15:47] * popey cranks the rumour mill to 11 [15:47] what if it's not the release [15:47] what if it's a computer running ubuntu [15:47] 'a whole new computer' [15:51] What happens on the 11th? [15:51] or 10th besides Columbus Day? [15:51] anyone join the IRC channel yet [15:53] popey, and nigelb are there..:-) [15:53] :D [15:53] the 12th is columbus day [15:54] cjohnston, celebrated on the 10th this year [15:54] well observed [15:55] akgraner: i know.. my birthday is the 12th.. thats why i say something [15:55] hehe [15:55] Happy Early b-day! [15:56] cjohnston: Happy Birthday old man :P [15:56] * nigelb runs. Fast. [15:57] dont worry nigelb.. youll get yours [15:57] heh [16:28] mhall119: can I play with the slots? [16:28] I read that as "Can I play with fire and explosives?" [16:29] jcastro: why wouldnt you be able to [16:29] because last time I did that the entire thing crashed [16:29] Yes, see my comment. [16:30] well.. when you play, thats always an option [16:31] I'm not playing [16:31] heh [16:31] I have to put these retarded slots in there because Scott made a decision 56 years ago. [16:31] and now I can't even yell at him. :( [16:31] ok I'm going in there, if it breaks, don't say I didn't warn you! [16:31] what slots? [16:32] jcastro: Now you *call* yell at him without losing your job :P [16:32] the plenary slots [16:32] *can* [16:32] ahh [16:32] what can be done to make it better? [16:35] like in gcal [16:35] how you can just extend meetings to be long or short [16:35] and remove the whole concept of slots [16:35] Ah. Wishlist for next cycle. We'll try. [16:36] just genning the slots automatically will be enough [16:37] https://bugs.launchpad.net/summit/+bug/855586 [16:37] Launchpad bug 855586 in summit "init-slots makes plenaries too long" [Low,Triaged] [16:50] nigelb: mhall119 or cjohnston: any idea why the slots on wednesday aren't showing up? [16:50] they're in the system, I added them like the other ones [16:50] but they don't display for some reason when you go to Wednesday [16:52] * nigelb ooks [16:52] *looks [16:52] jcastro: I seee them [16:52] looks like you put normal lots instead of plenary though [16:53] it's plenary in the admin [16:53] let me check again [16:53] im thinking something with that last room [16:53] oh dude [16:53] boca vi [16:54] 2 if the slots are normal [16:54] and cover the plenary slots [16:54] let me try this [16:54] haha [16:55] hey alright [16:55] DONE! [16:55] and I didn't even crash summit [16:55] * jcastro eats on yummy crow [16:55] what did you do jcastro [16:55] created plenary slots without crashing summit [16:55] it's like, a first. [16:56] i was referring to how [16:56] see.. summit much more betterrer [17:00] hey so what's ""plenary talk" vs. "plenary" [17:00] uhh [17:14] jcastro: is there a list of plenaries somewhere [17:14] yes [17:14] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-P? [17:15] I am scheduling them today [17:15] and we don't have enough room, so if you're thinking of one, do a lightning talk instead [17:17] jcastro: you sorted? [17:17] I am all set, thanks [17:53] jono: oh also the guidebook is set [17:53] they have all the sponsors and crap and the maps and stuff in there [17:54] jcastro: YOU ARE AWESOME [17:54] :) [18:06] mhall119: is something bad happening? summit just started grinding [18:07] huh weird [18:07] now it's normal again [18:09] jcastro: not that I know of, but cranberry is still questionably stable in my book [18:09] k [18:09] so hey has anyone thought about this room thing? [18:09] with the thing being too wide? [18:09] james_w: around? [18:10] ah damn, we're getting memory errors again [18:10] jcastro: I told you to buy bigger screens [18:11] mhall119: cranberry playing bad again? [18:11] did you notice tomorrow is 1st? [18:11] ok so this is going to be a real problem then? [18:12] Yes, can you escalate higher? [18:12] or get us a large ec2 [18:12] no I mean the screens [18:12] ah, yes. [18:13] mhall119: wanna just move it over to canonistack? [18:13] jcastro: no [18:14] awwww [18:14] but it looks like so much fun! [18:14] it is fun [18:14] heh [18:14] but not ready to host critical production code [18:14] ok, so really, what do we need to do [18:14] RT and escalate? [18:15] yeah, at this point maybe we need to request provisioning a new server just for summit until we can figure it out [18:15] ok if you can file the ticket I will get it escalated. [18:16] shoot me a # when you get it. [18:16] ok [18:16] and I've got a machine in mind, but after the openstack summit [18:16] maybe IS will let us keep this monster box for the demo [18:16] though if I was them I wouldn't, heh [18:16] is 40 cores and 128GB of ram enough for summit? [18:16] * jcastro evil grins [18:16] jcastro: can we re-use RT #17895 ? [18:17] sure [18:20] mhall119: robbie is wondering if that's the right ticket # [18:24] jcastro: it's the one we used to have them try and see what's using the memory [18:24] jcastro: https://rt.ubuntu.com//Ticket/Display.html?id=17895 [18:25] mhall119: ok can you add something to the effect that the issue isn't sorted? [18:26] and then I'll ask robbie to bump it [18:28] jcastro: you want me to copy robbie on it? [18:29] yes please [18:29] done [18:33] popey: heya [18:33] you seem to be in the know [18:33] _ _ _ [18:33] | | | | __ _| |__ [18:33] | |_| |/ _` | '_ \ [18:33] | _ | (_| | | | | [18:33] |_| |_|\__,_|_| |_| [18:33] [18:33] sorry, go on [18:33] nice [18:33] so like, how does it work if you post something [18:33] on g+ [18:33] you choose who to post to [18:33] which circles [18:33] right [18:34] I post _all_ of mine as public [18:34] but what if someone is being annoying [18:34] i unfollow douches [18:34] but not ... report as being bad annoying [18:34] de-circle [18:34] ok [18:34] then i only see when they reply to other people or reshare my stuff [18:34] how do I prevent someone from posting who isn't in my circle? [18:34] i dont see their posts unless i feel like clicking on them or someone i know reshares [18:34] I just don't post public? just to my extended circles? [18:34] dont post public [18:34] yeah [18:35] and what does the extended mean, it doesn't let friends of a friend post does it? [18:35] pass [18:35] i think so [18:35] k [18:35] can i get back to ordering dominos now? :D [18:35] I just want to make sure I don't get trolled [18:35] ooh, dominos! [18:35] hehe [18:35] yes, king of pizza [18:35] I _love_ dominos [18:36] jono: here, use this one for that conversation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0la5DBtOVNI [18:36] haha [18:36] jcastro, lol [18:38] i have someone being a douche at me on G+ _right_ _now_ [18:38] popey: remember when I asked you if that Fab guy was a troll? And you kind of avoided the question? [18:38] I don't really need your answer now. [18:38] :) [18:38] lol [18:38] saying i should move him from my random circle to ubuntu circle [18:38] he's not in any of my circles [18:38] jcastro: i dont follow fab anywhere [18:38] i actively avoid him where possible [18:39] the tone of that conversation is basically why no one reads identica [18:39] _exactly_ [18:40] it's like, a dogpile of a few people talking about how much better they are than every one else [18:40] and then they ruin it for every one else [18:40] which unfortunately leads to "why would I use Free network services when people just yell at me?" [18:40] dude, we're on the same page :D [18:41] I don't see the argument of forcing people to use services as being free at all [18:42] i love that dominos accepts paypal [18:42] means I can be a fat lazy oaf and not go and get my wallet [18:42] mhall119: ok so next thought [18:42] iirc orlando was one huge L shaped thing [18:42] instead of monitors [18:42] what about a projector on the one huge wall [18:45] popey: I wish you could have like, anti-circles [18:45] like say "stupid people" [18:45] oh i have an 'asshats' circle [18:46] so far only one person in it [18:46] oooh [18:46] so what do you get by having them in a circle vs. just not following them? [18:46] they think you're interested in what they have to say [18:47] when in fact you just laugh at every utterance [18:47] i should get out more [18:47] oh [18:47] so I heard this concept they use on some communities [18:47] that is totally brilliant [18:47] have you ever heard of hellbanning? [18:47] no [18:47] ok so [18:47] assume a forum or something [18:48] some guy is just being an idiot, and never reforms, etc. [18:48] so you hellban them [18:48] then, they are the only ones that see their posts [18:48] but no one else does [18:48] haha [18:48] so they flail and flail and think people are ignoring them [18:48] then they just go somewhere else [18:48] thats an interesting way of doing it [18:49] so while they keep replying and being themselves, the normal community isn't affected, and the guy thinks people are just ignoring him, and then moves on to youtube comments or wherever people like that hang out. [18:50] did you see that blog post i think zonker shared, woman who gets loads of hatemail? [18:50] it's totally genious, though a little dishonest tbh [18:50] Kathy Sierra [18:50] she's spoken at Guadec before [18:50] how to build passionate communities, etc. [18:51] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehYoIKTsiV0 i love this [18:53] jcastro: L-shaped? [18:53] yeah, the venue I mean [18:53] there were 3 side hallways off the main one, and the plenary room across from those [18:54] right [18:54] so, on the wall facing the little hallways [18:54] tilt your head up. [18:54] right there. [18:55] because I am willing to bet new TVs are out of the question, and rewriting that viewer part in summit is asking for torture. [18:55] jcastro: http://www.thecaribeorlando.com/uploadedImages/Meetings_And_Events/Floor_Plans_Capacity_Charts/cro_conventionCenterMap.gif?n=9176 [18:56] yeah, see where it says Foyer [18:56] face east [18:56] and up, above the doors [18:57] another solution would be [18:57] in each hallway [18:57] where a TV is [18:57] jcastro: I don't remember [18:58] horizontal scroll to the group of rooms that hallway is [18:58] jcastro: cjohnston might be willing to stop by and scout it out though [18:58] ah nuts though [18:58] it's still a resolution problem [18:59] the projector would need to be way more high rez [18:59] jcastro: we can scale down the size of the blocks, but it's hard enough to fit text into them [19:00] ok normally how many columns, 9? [19:00] the blocks are fix-width at 100px, IIRC [19:00] jcastro: we were trying to find out from james_w if linaro wanted to seperate summits... [19:00] man, 24 rooms [19:00] what's the horizontal resolution of the screens? [19:00] mhall119: or we could do like what they have done, where if you go to s.l.o they ONLY display linaro stuff.. [19:01] well, they're 1080p TVs right? [19:01] so 1920? [19:02] cjohnston: do we have linaro-only rooms? [19:02] ok, one solution could be leave the layout the same, but then every 30 seconds show the other part of the schedule, and then just alternate [19:03] like airport monitors do [19:03] :P [19:03] marquee [19:03] or find a firefox extension that marquee's horizontal scrolling, lol [19:03] let's just attach a kinect to each one and let people do Minority Report style scrolling [19:04] don't the Linaro guys have something for that? [19:05] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/autoscroll-for-musicians/ [19:05] so like this [19:05] but left/right [19:05] come to think of it, that would be handy during allstars too heh [19:06] jcastro: are the hackfest rooms only going to be used for hackfests? [19:06] yes [19:06] but only in the afternoons [19:06] in the morning, sessions [19:06] ok [19:06] (already tried to think about that) [19:06] so how many rooms do we have? [19:06] 24 [19:06] just counted [19:07] can we do 12 on one screen and 12 on another? [19:07] right [19:08] do we have enough screens for that [19:08] asking [19:13] ok so if we have the screens or not [19:13] either way we need to split the schedule right? [19:13] like [19:13] right [19:13] summit.ubuntu.com/$day-part1 and part2 or something [19:14] and then we either have 2 screens, or we set the firefox tabs one on each part of the day and set them to like, auto flip back and forth every 30 seconds [19:14] it'll be more like summit.ubuntu.com/uds-p/2011-10-31/?rooms=21&page=1 [19:14] sure sure [19:14] on 12 instead of 21 [19:15] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tab-slideshow/ [19:15] booyah [19:15] there's the badget [19:15] badger even! [19:15] * mhall119 wishes ctrl+left-click worked like middle click in Unity Launcher [19:16] mhall119: ok so elmo hasn't responded yet, I'm going to go get caffeine refills, bbiab [19:16] I'll have a think while I walk to the store. [19:16] bbi15 [19:20] dlawson responded [19:21] Pici: Happy Birthday! [19:21] jcastro: given that this problem struck both Summit and LoCo Directory at the same time, I'm not inclined to belive it's something in their application code [19:22] mhall119: what needs to be done to update for the new openid [19:22] mhall119: and i get errors with status [19:25] cjohnston: out of memory errors? [19:25] yup [19:26] My theory is status is screwing up everything else. [19:26] mhall119: http://paste.ubuntu.com/700027/ [19:26] :P [19:26] jcastro: I USE THAT EVERY DAY AND DIDN'T REMEMBER THAT. [19:26] (tab slide show) [19:29] I use it for Nagios on a big screen at work. [19:39] oh dude mhall119 [19:39] sciri says the schedules are separate [19:39] we should be fine! [19:45] jcastro: what does that mean? [19:48] "Our AV vendor only has 8 45" plasmas total. The currently layout is 1 confidence monitor for the plenary, 4 UDS schedules, and 3 LDS schedules." [19:48] jcastro: Well, I'm not 100% sure. We will have 4 UDS-branded schedules and 3 LDS-branded schedules. I don't know if that means the UDS schedules are UDS-only and the LDS schedules are LDS-only, or if it's just a branding change. [19:49] ok so basically, I think james_w can answer that question [19:49] but he always is all quiet when we talk about UDS [19:49] * jcastro jiggles james_w [20:01] Pendulum: Thanks! :) [20:02] hey popey [20:02] you about? [20:03] hm? [20:03] it's friday, Jason and I are going to do a hangout and just do ubuntu stuff [20:03] chat, etc. [20:03] :D [20:03] come be english with us [20:03] k [20:06] yay, killed the browser [20:07] Pendulum: Happy birthday to you too ;) [20:08] Pici: thank you! [20:23] jcastro: http://summit.linaro.org/uds-p/2011-10-31/ [20:23] I think we should figure out a way to split off their rooms [20:37] jcastro: clicked exit by accident! [20:37] cant get back in [20:37] cant get back in [23:06] Pendulum: happy birtday