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ogra_♪♬♪♬♪♬♪♬♪♬14:58
ogra_^^--- hold music :)14:58
charlie-tcaneat!14:58
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pittihello14:59
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josimba_hi15:00
skaethiya15:01
skaet#startmeeting15:01
meetingology`Meeting started Fri Sep 30 15:01:49 2011 UTC.  The chair is skaet. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.15:01
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skaet[TOPIC] Release general overview - skaet15:02
skaetAgenda can be found: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2011-09-3015:02
skaet.15:02
skaetWe're now in Final Freeze for Main and the Seeded Universe.  Thank you for all the fixes that have been submitted over this last week!  :)   Only high/critical fixes necessary to release the images will be accepted now.15:02
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skaet.15:02
skaetBased on discussions last week in this meeting the archive is remaining frozen now for the remainder of the cycle.   Please ping a release team member on #ubuntu-release if a high/critical bug fix for main or one of the seeded universe packages needs shepherding through if its been sitting there for more than 12 hours.15:02
skaetKey dates:15:02
skaethttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule15:02
skaet11.10 Final Freeze:  Sept 29 at 2100 UTC.15:02
skaet11.10 Non Language Pack Translation Deadline:  Sept 29 at 2100 UTC15:02
skaet11.10 Language Pack Translation Deadline:  Oct 6 at 1200 UTC15:02
skaet11.10 Unseeded Universe Freeze Oct 11 at 1200 UTC  (more discussion at end of meeting )15:02
skaet11.10 Release Date: October 13, 201115:02
skaet.15:02
skaetFor those who want to see what bugs are showing up on the release list during the upcoming weeks,  we'll be focusing on resolving or documenting:15:02
skaet[LINK] http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-mgr-o-tracking-bugs.html15:02
skaetIf you see a package being looked at against the wrong team,  let me or one of the defect analysts know, and we'll adjust,  also,  some won't fix bugs are still showing up with the status of the package rather than the oneiric specific task, these will be moved off the list shortly.15:02
skaetWould also like to request all the flavor product leads take a pass through15:03
skaet[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/ReleaseManifest15:03
skaetand confirm the details are accurate for their images.15:03
skaetquestions?15:03
skaet..15:03
* skaet thanks ogra for playing hold music ;)15:03
pittisorry, I'm not sure that I'm connected, do you read me?15:04
skaetyes pitti,  we see you.15:04
skaetor at least I do ;)15:04
* skaet doesn't see questions 15:05
skaeton to round table.15:05
skaet[TOPIC] Hardware Certification team update - mlegris15:06
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mlegris[Week 39 Testing Report]15:06
mlegris[link] http://people.canonical.com/~hwcert/hw-testing/week39_2011.html15:06
mlegris.15:06
mlegrisBeta 2 Testing15:06
mlegris* Testing went well, the majority of systems passed.15:06
mlegrisBugs:15:06
mlegris*  Bug #810145 - unity-panel-service crashes15:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 810145 in unity (Ubuntu Oneiric) "unity-panel-service crashed with SIGABRT in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81014515:06
mlegrisAny questions?15:06
mlegris..15:07
skaetThanks mlegris!   glad there doesn't seem to be any blockers from the Cert side to worry about.15:07
mlegrisnp skaet!15:07
skaet[TOPIC] QA team update -  jibel15:07
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jibel= Weekly QA Activity =15:07
jibelThis week was dedicated to testing, troubleshooting and finding test cases for populars crashes.15:07
jibelWe spent time on testing Wubi disk image installation too.15:07
jibelMajor issues identified have been added to the release manager bug tracking report.15:07
jibel= Bug Activity =15:08
jibel* New bugs opened during last week (no dups): 1758(+22.00 % over previous week)15:08
jibel Top 5 packages with bugs opened during the week:15:08
jibel  * unity: 89 (5.06%)15:08
jibel  * linux: 48 (2.73%)15:08
jibel  * software-center: 43 (2.45%)15:08
jibel  * nautilus: 37 (2.10%)15:08
jibel  * banshee: 30 (1.71%)15:08
jibel* 26 reports are regressions. Top 3:15:08
jibel  * software-center: 315:08
jibel  * unity: 215:08
jibel  * nautilus: 115:08
jibelThe following are in status 'New':15:08
jibel62970abiword crashed with SIGABRT in PD_Document::areListUpdatesAllowed()15:08
jibel858684aptd crashed with TypeError in _on_status_update(): not all arguments converted during string formatting15:08
jibel862677Can no longer create IMAP folders15:08
jibel861339compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in nux::WindowCompositor::RenderTopViews()15:08
jibel863093Function keys for volume not working as expected15:08
jibel862662No busy cursor when opening files15:08
jibel862609seahorse-plugins gone in Oneiric15:08
jibel858543software-center crashed with DBusException in _medium_required(): org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method "Cancel" with signature "" on interface "org.debian.apt.transaction" doesn't exist15:08
jibel862686software-center crashed with UnicodeDecodeError in _show_transaction_failed_dialog(): 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc4 in position 14: ordinal not in range(128)15:08
jibel* Top 3 packages with High/Critical bugs opened and reported this week:15:09
jibel  * unity: 415:09
jibel  * compiz: 415:09
jibel  * lightdm: 215:09
jibel* Top 3 crashers of the week:15:09
jibel  * software-center: 34 (79.07 %)15:09
jibel  * unity: 28 (31.46 %)15:09
jibel  * unity-2d: 20 (86.96 %)15:09
jibel* Top 3 packages that need triage (based on the number of untouched reports)15:09
jibel* Top 3 packages that need triage (based on the number of untouched reports)15:09
jibel  * unity: 34 (38.20 %)15:09
jibel  * software-center: 27 (62.79 %)15:09
jibel  * banshee: 11 (36.67 %)15:09
josimba_He said he was reporting it for another coworker and couldn't give any details15:09
jibel= Boot speed =15:09
josimba_He then said he had to go but could be reached in 20 mins for more details15:09
jibelhttp://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/boot-speed/15:09
jibel(should be updated the todays data really soon)15:10
skaet:)15:10
jibelany question ?15:10
jibel..15:10
skaetThanks jibel!15:10
skaetI was seeing software-center showing up a bit on more than usual on the high/critical bugs this week too.   Will do some extra follow up there.15:11
jibelI looked at it, and clearly there are quite a lot of bugs that need triage in software-center15:12
skaetjibel,  the bugs that are in New state, are the respective team's defect analysts and project leads aware directly,  or only through this meeting?15:12
* skaet trying to figure out how to get those New ones sorted quickly.15:13
Ursinhabdmurray, ^15:13
jibelskaet, that's on defect analyst's plate15:13
jibelI'll see we pedro for software center.15:14
skaetjibel,  looks like Ursinha, bdmurray are aware now ;)15:14
skaetThanks!15:14
skaet:)15:15
skaetany other questions for jibel?15:15
skaet[TOPIC] Security team update - jdstrand15:15
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jdstrandhi15:15
skaet:)15:15
jdstrand[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Oneiric15:15
jdstrand[LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/canonical-security.html15:15
jdstrandBurn down is below the trend line. The remaining work items are not tied to the release schedule. I have only one MIR left requiring a security team audit.15:16
jdstrandOne bug worth highlighting is bug #849027, but I see today that pitti is looking at it (thanks!). Bug #851986 has been deferred to SRU. Looking at the other oneiric bugs, there aren't any others worth highlighting.15:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 849027 in lightdm (Ubuntu Oneiric) "lightdm does not provide an equivalent to the gdm guest session AppArmor profile" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84902715:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 851986 in evince (Ubuntu Oneiric) "use of Ux in ubuntu-* abstractions and profiles is too lenient and should be improved" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85198615:16
jdstrand..15:16
skaetThanks jdstrand! :)  questions?15:16
skaet[TOPIC] Kernel team update - ogasawara15:16
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ogasawaraOverall status is reported at the first link below.  Burn down for Oneiric Final is at the second link below.  Burndown for the cycle is at the third link:15:17
ogasawara[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Oneiric15:17
ogasawara[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/canonical-kernel-team-ubuntu-11.10.html15:17
ogasawara[LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/group/topic-oneiric-kernel-tasks.html15:17
ogasawaraWe uploaded linux-3.0.0-12.19 last week to resolve some outstanding bugs prior to release.  We do not foresee any further uploads prior to release.  We are currently below both of our final milestone and overall burndown charts.  The remaining 2 work items are not release critical.15:17
ogasawaraOf the remaining bugs called out on the agenda against the kernel, status is as follows:15:17
ogasawara#480444 - Needs further investigation.15:17
ogasawara#542660 - Looks to be related to EFI boot not loading the video bios into ram.15:17
ogasawara#557261 - Not a kernel issue, was closed Invalid.15:17
ogasawara#710733 - Universe package for debug purposes, not release critical.15:17
ogasawara#714862 - Assigned to kernel dev, investigation ongoing.15:17
ogasawara#746133 - Assigned to kernel dev, investigation ongoing.15:17
ogasawara#754711 - On a 3.0 oneiric kernel, system now suspends but doesn't resume.  further invetigation required.15:17
ogasawara#758486 - Told that TI will push a fix with the next BSP.15:17
ogasawara#761082 - Confirmed against Oneiric, investigation ongoing.15:17
ogasawara#786952 - Patch needs review for SRU possibility.15:17
ogasawara#790712 - The order 5 allocation seems to be bogus and non-fatal; further investigation ongoing.15:17
ogasawara#814325 - Issue confirmed upstream, further investigation required.15:17
ogasawara#818177 - Comments and investigation indicate this is a udev issue, not kernel. investigation ongoing.15:17
ogasawara#820466 - Fix Released in alsa-utils.15:17
ogasawara#836250 - Assigned to kernel dev, performance tests indicate environmental factors.15:17
ogasawara#760131 - Fix Released Oneiric, SRU Fix Committed for Natty.15:17
ogasawaraQuestions?15:18
ogasawara..15:18
skaetThanks ogasawara!15:18
skaetCan all kernel bugs on the list be considered oneiric-updates now?  or is there anything on the must fix for release list?15:18
ogasawaraI don't think anything on the list is release critical so would agree they could be considered for oneiric-updates now15:19
skaetthanks15:19
skaet[TOPIC] Foundations team update - cjwatson15:20
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cjwatsonWe've wontfixed a number of bugs which aren't showstoppers and have no chance of being fixed for 11.10.  Shout if you disagree with one of these changes.15:20
cjwatsonThe important ones that remain:15:20
cjwatsonBug 553745 / bug 849414: We are getting moderately desperate here for somebody who is experiencing this and who can actually help us debug it.  If you're hitting this, please contact Steve!15:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 553745 in plymouth (Ubuntu Maverick) "plymouthd crashed with SIGSEGV in ply_event_loop_process_pending_events()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55374515:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 849414 in plymouth (Ubuntu Oneiric) "plymouthd crashed with SIGSEGV in ply_event_loop_process_pending_events()" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84941415:21
cjwatsonBug 745960: stgraber has handed this back to me for further investigation.  Will have another go next week ...15:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 745960 in grub2 (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Cannot boot grub after installing to LVM" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74596015:21
cjwatsonBug 779382: Code written and nearly works, although this may end up being an SRU.15:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 779382 in unity (Ubuntu Natty) "update-notifier not visible under unity" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77938215:21
cjwatsonBug 818177: Slow progress; now actually seeing a firehose of relevant data.15:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 818177 in udev (Ubuntu Oneiric) "boot failures caused by udev race" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81817715:21
cjwatsonBug 833783: Ball currently in the server team's court for debugging.15:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 833783 in udev (Ubuntu Oneiric) "boot failure: can't open /root/dev/console: no such file" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83378315:21
cjwatson..15:21
skaetThanks cjwatson!15:21
pittihas been ages since I've seen a plymouth crash; are we still getting new reports for this?15:22
cjwatsonyes, the odd one15:22
cjwatsonit's definitely a lot better than it was; but the nature of the crash is that it is racy15:22
cjwatsonunfortunately most of the bug comments are from people who turn up with "me too" reports but don't actually give us the information we need15:23
* skaet adds plymouth to list with software-center for some follow up. :/15:25
skaet[TOPIC] Server team update - Daviey15:25
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Davieyhello!15:26
DavieyBurndown:15:27
Davieyhttp://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/group/topic-oneiric-server-overview.html15:27
DavieyIt seems we made it!15:27
DavieyOverview of bugs being tracked which are pertinent to release:15:27
Daviey - http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html15:27
DavieyIf there are any not present, please let me know as soon as possible.  Thanks15:27
DavieyDetail:15:27
Davieybug 861260 nova-common upgrade fails with runing lxc instances15:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 861260 in nova (Ubuntu) "nova-common upgrade fails with runing lxc instances" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86126015:27
Daviey  # Fix attached, to be including in the next nova upload15:27
Davieybug 832159lxc: get-console-output does not work15:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 832159 in nova (Ubuntu Oneiric) "lxc: get-console-output does not work" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83215915:27
Daviey  # Fix attached, pending scrutiny from upstream trunk.  Should be included in the next upload.15:27
Davieybug 801494Multi part LVM layout: system fails to boot due to missing volumes15:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 801494 in Ubuntu "Multi part LVM layout: system fails to boot due to missing volumes" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80149415:27
Daviey  # Possibly a duplicate of bug 81817715:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 818177 in udev (Ubuntu Oneiric) "boot failures caused by udev race" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81817715:27
Davieybug 832507console.log grows indefinitely15:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 832507 in nova (Ubuntu) "console.log grows indefinitely" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83250715:27
Daviey  # (Security Bug) Fix attached, pending scruitiny from upstream trunk before including in next upload15:27
Davieybug 842845problems starting multiple lxc instances concurrently15:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 842845 in nova (Ubuntu Oneiric) "problems starting multiple lxc instances concurrently" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84284515:27
Daviey  # Possible resolution in libvirt, awaiting approval from libvirt15:27
Davieybug 850880cobbler-ubuntu-import does not pull from -updates15:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 850880 in cobbler (Ubuntu Oneiric) "cobbler-ubuntu-import does not pull from -updates" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85088015:27
Daviey  # Universe package, fix soon avaliable.15:27
Davieybug 861547/usr/sbin/ietadm is missing in /etc/sudoers.d/nova_sudoer15:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 861547 in nova (Ubuntu Oneiric) "/usr/sbin/ietadm is missing in /etc/sudoers.d/nova_sudoers" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86154715:27
Daviey  # Fix merged, awaiting upload15:27
Davieybug 862816/var/log/nova/* is world-readable15:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 862816 in nova (Ubuntu Oneiric) "/var/log/nova/* is world-readable" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86281615:28
Daviey  # Security issue, fix avaliable soon.15:28
Davieybug 862844Glance config files and logs are world-readable15:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 862844 in glance (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Glance config files and logs are world-readable" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86284415:28
Daviey  # As above15:28
Davieybug 836922swift-ring-builder exit status confusing15:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 836922 in swift (Ubuntu Oneiric) "swift-ring-builder exit status confusing" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83692215:28
Daviey  # Pending cherry pick from upstream trunk15:28
Davieybug 818177, is causing us great concern.15:28
DavieyThe ISO should now be shipping Orchestra enlistment support, and requires testing.15:28
DavieyI belive that is EOM.15:28
Daviey..15:28
DavieyAny questions?15:28
skaetThanks Daviey. :)15:28
DavieyOh, someone please ask me a question.15:29
skaetI thought libvirt was already submitted by jdstrand?15:29
Davieyskaet: This is /another/ issue.15:29
Davieyjdstrands fix is Fix Released15:29
skaetah,  ok.  :)15:29
Davieyhallyn is working on the other fix.15:29
* skaet will study list in more detail after meeting. 15:30
DavieyWe Are trying to get fixes upstreamed before including them, where pratical.15:30
* skaet doesn't see any other questions.... moving on.15:30
skaet[TOPIC] ARM team update15:30
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skaet[TOPIC] ARM team update - ogra_15:31
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ogra_= Full Status is at: =15:31
ogra_https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARMTeam/ReleaseStatus/Oneiric15:31
ogra_--15:31
ogra_= Summary =15:31
ogra_ - Plenty of arm desktop image bugs were identified over the last week and got fixed15:31
ogra_ - Banshee (or mono overall) sadly stopped working, bug 857299 is being researched by NCommander currently, but if we cant fix it in time consensus is to switch back to rhythmbox.15:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 857299 in banshee (Ubuntu) "banshee window remain white on startup on pandaboard" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85729915:31
ogra_ - mx5 images could finally get tested, the install and booting are very slow, the regular system works fine though.15:31
ogra_ - OMAP 4460 support in kernel and bootloader landed this week (thanks linaro !).15:31
ogra_ - work is still going on on partman-uboot but it is not clar it will make it in time, worst case we will have to release-note it.15:31
ogra_--15:31
ogra_= Image Status =15:31
ogra_ - Desktop images suffer from archive skew (as expected around freeze time)15:31
ogra_ - Server images (same status)15:31
ogra_ - Netboot images (suffer from 806751)15:31
ogra_--15:31
ogra_= Specs =15:31
ogra_ - Entire http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-arm.html15:31
ogra_--15:31
ogra_= Critical Bugs =15:31
ogra_ - 806751 Boot partition on SD is too small on omap/omap4 with guided install15:31
ogra_ - 857299 Banshee does not start15:31
ogra_thats all :)15:32
ogra_..15:32
skaetThanks ogra_ ! :)   when do you expect to start getting usable images from the archive?15:33
ogra_well, infinity was optimistic and fired just off a build :)15:33
ogra_before he went to bed15:33
ogra_so with luck, later tonight15:33
ogra_..15:33
skaetogra_, goodness.  :)15:33
skaet[TOPIC] Linaro update - rsalveti15:34
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fabo:)15:34
rsalvetihey15:35
rsalvetifabo knows it all15:35
skaet:)15:35
faboI'll take it from here ;)15:35
skaetsorry,  meant to have an "or" in there15:35
fabo= Developer Platform =15:35
rsalvetifirst, and most important, our release is out! \o/15:35
fabo - Linaro 11.09 released - https://wiki.linaro.org/Cycles/1109/Release15:35
fabo- work on the TI LT tree to make it work with OMAP 446015:36
fabo - u-boot-linaro 2011.09.5 released, fixing OMAP 4430 ES2.0 and bringing support for OMAP 446015:36
fabo - libjpeg-turbo is now at the archive - Thanks to ScottK and pitti15:36
fabo - plan to switch to Oneiric based images15:36
fabo--15:36
fabo= Infrastructure =15:36
fabo -  linaro-image tools updated to 2011.09 in the archive - Thanks to ogra_15:36
fabo..15:36
fabothat's all :)15:36
ogra_me ?15:36
skaetThanks fabo!  :)15:36
* ogra_ cant remember uploading that ... i must be getting old ...15:37
skaetany questions for linaro?15:37
ogra_(i uploaded libjpeg-turbo though, i think you got that mixed up)15:37
faboogra_: oups was for ljt :)15:37
ogra_..15:37
fabotoo much people involved in libjpeg-turbo ;)15:37
fabo..15:37
skaet[TOPIC] Desktop Team update  - pitti15:38
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pittiPackaged final GNOME 3.2 release. Mostly translation updates, but a few really good bug fixes, too.15:38
pittiLots of bug fixing, RC and otherwise.15:38
pittiUnfortunately the stream of UIF/FF exception requests from DX/design does not really cease, we got the music search scope, new font, launcher rearrangements etc. in after much discussion. Unfortunately some of the unity changes are buggy, so we'll most likely need another upload.15:38
pittiAs usual, RC bug status is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus#rcbugs15:38
pittiand for jdstrand's and my own mental sanity, I just uploaded a fix for bug 84902715:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 849027 in lightdm (Ubuntu Oneiric) "lightdm does not provide an equivalent to the gdm guest session AppArmor profile" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84902715:39
pitti..15:39
jdstrand\o/15:39
skaetThanks pitti!15:39
* jdstrand hugs pitti15:39
pittifix is rather large, but the profile has been tested thoroughly through gdm-guest-session already15:39
skaetany ETA on the next unity drop?15:40
dbarth_we're lining up fixes15:40
pittiI don't know, I'm afraid15:40
dbarth_we can release either beginning of next week or at the next weekly upload window15:40
pittibeginning of next weeks sounds good, to get it into the RC15:40
skaetdbarth_, beginning of next week please.15:40
dbarth_ok15:41
skaet[TOPIC] Desktop Experience Team Update - dbarth_15:41
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dbarth_tuesday latest? we already have 5 bugs in progress, 1 fix15:42
dbarth_ok, so for the report: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/OneiricReleaseStatus15:42
dbarth_it mentions the last releases we made and the bug fix counter15:42
pittiTue is fine, I think15:42
dbarth_other than that15:42
dbarth_the main change was the integration of the compiz stack mgmt code to fix the stacking problems15:43
dbarth_music lens with scope support (thanks again)15:43
dbarth_multi-monitor issues plugged gradually, in particular also with the patch limiting resolution selection15:43
dbarth_we're facing a massive increase in bug reports and have lined up more engineers to deal with triaging tasks15:44
dbarth_..15:44
pittio/15:44
skaetThanks dbarth_!  go pitti15:44
dbarth_the bug radar list is still being updated as i speak15:44
pittidbarth: do you know if a fix for bug 849732 is planned? It breaks keybindings rather badly. It's inconvenient enough for normal users, but a real disaster for a11y, I figure15:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 849732 in unity-2d "Alt + <application menubar shorcut> doesn't work as well as Ctrl + W/Q" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84973215:44
dbarth_pitti: not yet15:45
dbarth_we know where it happens at least, but ted needs to look into that fix next15:46
skaetdbarth_, as you update the bugs,  could you please indicate the ones that have no chance of making the tuesday drop, and we'll want to SRU by marking them as oneiric-updates?   would like to get the must watch list pruned down to reasonable level.15:46
dbarth_it's the highest on his priority list now; but i'm concerned about the eds issue taking 100% of the cpu and that might need his attention as well15:47
dbarth_ok15:48
skaetthanks15:49
dbarth_we'd have to split that sru0 list or so; i think i'll add a tag instead; but yes15:49
skaetok,  will get with you on monday then to discuss a bit further.15:50
* skaet looks around for any other questions?15:50
skaet[TOPIC] Kubuntu Team update - ScottK15:50
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* skaet not seeing ScottK in channel, moving on.15:51
skaet[TOPIC] Edubuntu Team update - stgraber15:52
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ScottK\o15:52
stgraberHi everyone!15:52
stgraberEdubuntu looks pretty good, all the remaining bits have been uploaded yesterday and hopefully we won't have to do much last minute fixing.15:52
stgraberI'm now working on getting WebLive running on Oneiric so we can have it online on release day, quite a few issues to work around but should be ready by Monday.15:52
stgraberWe also still need to update our install documentation, our screenshots and prepare the release anouncement, will do so next week.15:52
stgraberAnd that's it!15:52
stgraber..15:52
stgraberQuestions?15:52
skaetThanks stgraber!   :)  will coord about the announces, etc. next week.15:52
* skaet goes back to Kubuntu now..15:53
ScottKIn general, we are in good shape for release.  The switch to kmail2 this cycle is not going well.  Lot's of upgrade issues and user unhappiness.15:53
skaet[TOPIC] Kubuntu Team update - ScottK15:53
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ScottKWe've been pushing bugfix updates of akonadi/kdepimlibs/kdepim/kdepim-runtime to try and make the best of it.15:54
ScottKWe'll almost certainly want a zero day SRU too.15:54
ScottK(and more after that)15:54
ScottKWe kind of got stuck by upstream on this, but hopefully getting it in the hands of users will get upstream enough feedback 4.8 will be better for "P".15:55
ScottK..15:55
skaetThanks ScottK!   and ack about the 0-day SRU. :/15:55
skaetplease milestone any bugs not able to make it in now, as oneiric-updates, so we can track them.15:56
skaet(or rather,  not worry about chasing them down next week)15:57
ScottKAlso expect the world's longest release note.15:57
ScottKThey may not all be in LP as we try to push users to bugs.kde.org to file these bugs as much as possible.15:57
skaetOk,  I'll be posting the framework either this afternoon or monday, so you can compose as you go.15:57
ScottKWe're still using the ubuntu-release-notes project for release note material, right?15:58
skaetScottK,  yes, its one of the mechanisms.    But there is overlap with prior releases so its not the only one.15:59
ScottKOK15:59
* skaet will try to prune out the cruft from past releases early next week.15:59
skaetany questions for ScottK?16:00
skaet[TOPIC] Xubuntu Team update - charlie-tca16:00
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charlie-tcaWe would like to think we are in pretty good shape now16:00
charlie-tcaI see the Alternate amd64 image is slightly oversize, but that is not an issue. We can remove a language pack to get it sized16:01
charlie-tcaWe have done many bug fixes this week, and also wrote a patch for lightdm.16:01
charlie-tcalightdm now works for all flavors16:01
czajkowskic16:01
charlie-tcaI don't have any significant issues at this time.16:01
charlie-tcaAny questions?16:01
charlie-tca..16:01
skaetThanks charlie-tca.    glad to hear that lightdm concern have gotten sorted.  :)16:02
* charlie-tca nods16:02
skaet[TOPIC] Lubuntu Team update - gilir16:02
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gilirhi :)16:02
skaet:)16:02
gilirLast week, we had several fixes for very old issues (apt-xapian-index, boot menu not translated, headers not installed properly), thanks to people who help on them :)16:02
gilirAlso, with the beta 2, we had several testing reports, very complete.16:02
gilirWith them, we found several bugs which was out of our radar.16:03
gilirThe most annoying one is a random boot failure of the desktop ISO (bug 854837)16:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 854837 in casper (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu live image boots to TTY" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85483716:03
gilirI'll greatly appreciate if an expert of casper/ISO boot process can have a look at it, to see what information is needed to debug this.16:03
gilirAlso, bug 820080 is still here, but a fix seems available, it would be very nice if it can be pushed for the final release :)16:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 820080 in libappindicator "broken fallback icons for indicators" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82008016:03
gilir..16:03
skaetThanks gilir!16:04
skaetif the fix for 820080 can be uploaded, we can see about getting it reviewed.16:04
skaetI'll also make a note of the casper bug in my lists.16:04
skaetany questions for gilir?16:05
skaet[TOPIC] MOTU Team update - tumbleweed16:05
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skaetor Laney?16:05
* skaet notices that both seem to be marked away today.16:06
skaetnot sure we have quorum for the next topic then either.16:06
skaetwhich would have been the Unseeded Universe Freeze16:06
skaetWill keep the discussion on the list, and try to get the summary mailed out shortly to the wider development lists.  (and process pages updated)16:07
skaet[TOPIC] Any other business?16:07
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ScottK\o16:08
skaetgo ScottK16:08
ScottKI hope you know you're signed up to hit the release timing to the second: http://www.thisisthecountdown.com/16:09
ScottK..16:09
skaet???16:09
* skaet goes to look16:09
ScottKNot sure who did that.16:09
charlie-tcato the second?16:09
skaetThanks for flagging ScottK...   appreciate knowing about it now, and plan to do some digging.  :P16:10
ScottKIt at least isn't obviously a Canonical domain, so no idea who's behind it.16:10
* skaet has another task on her list for the afternoon it seems. 16:11
* skaet looks around for other questions?16:12
skaetThanks mlegris, jibel, jdstrand, ogaswara, cjwatson, Daviey, ogra_, fabo, pitti, dbarth_ ScottK, stgraber, charlie-tca, gilir!16:12
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skaet#endmeeting16:12
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charlie-tcaskaet: thank you.16:13
stgraberthanks16:16
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