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uvirtbotNew bug: #862915 in postfix (main) "package postfix 2.8.2-1ubuntu2.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 75" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86291501:39
hydrogen18would anyone care to me help with a lvm problem?02:28
twb!anyone02:29
ubottuA high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.02:29
hydrogen18 Hello, I have a problem: I have a logical volume which has "#open" of 1 when I run lvdisplay. But looking in /proc/mount it is not mounted and 'lsof' does not return anything having it open. 'fuser -ki' does not prompt me to kill any processes when run against the logical volume. I am running ubuntu 10.04 server amd6402:30
twbhydrogen18: any processes wedged in D state?02:30
hydrogen18twb: how do I check for that02:31
twbps auxf | grep -2 D02:32
twbThere is a column where most stuff is "S" (idling), a few "R" (running), and occasionally "D" (wedged)02:32
hydrogen18it would seem not.02:32
hydrogen18there are definitely none in 'D' state02:34
twbThen I don't know02:35
twboccasionally stuff just gets like that and it's impossible to tell why02:35
hydrogen18so im just screwed?02:35
twbA reboot will definitely clear it, so that's your worst-case scenario02:36
twbI would also try umount -f02:36
hydrogen18I guess I'm doing a recovery then.02:36
hydrogen18its not mound02:36
hydrogen18mounted*02:36
hydrogen18i mean I guess im doing a reboot02:36
twbAre you sure it's not just that it's active?02:36
hydrogen18how do I check to see if it is active?02:36
twblvchange -an /dev/foo/bar02:36
hydrogen18" LV dyson/swarm in use: not deactivating" what brought me here02:37
hydrogen18''sudo lsof | grep swarm' is blank02:37
twbDunno man02:38
twbYou can try forcing it02:38
hydrogen18i don't think you can force an lv offline02:38
hydrogen18yeah...restarted, now marked as #open 002:44
hydrogen18now im running a fsck on a 6.37 TiB filesystem...probably take all nite02:44
twbYeah so maybe don't make multi-TiB filesystems02:46
twbAnd at least make them journalled or checksummed02:46
twbPeople who use LVM and then lvextend --size 100% need to be LARTs02:47
twb*LARTed02:47
hydrogen18There do not seem to be many other ways to glue physical devices together02:54
twbhydrogen18: well, I would hope that if you ahve that much data you have some kind of organization of it02:55
twbso e.g. make /srv/porn/interracial and /srv/porn/milfs separate LVs02:56
Solaris444does anybody know if 10.04 LTS server has native support for the LSI MegaRAID 9260-4i RAID controller?03:06
qman__Solaris444, I don't know, but it's pretty simple to get the answer to03:08
qman__find out what driver that card needs, what kernel version it was added in, and compare to the current lucid kernel version03:08
Solaris444Yes, I've tried to do that and can't get a straight answer.03:09
Solaris444LSI don't tell you on their website.03:09
Solaris444It just says "native support is included in some newer linux kernels, but we don't support it.  Use our driver here"03:09
Solaris444which is no help at all.03:09
qman__download the driver and find out what the name is03:10
Solaris444I've even contacted LSI directly and still couldn't get a straight answer.03:10
qman__then see if it's in the lucid kernel or modules03:10
Solaris444the kernel module is megaraid_sas03:10
Solaris444Which I believe is included, but the question is whether it supports that specific card.03:11
qman__well surely it should have a version or date03:11
Solaris444You would think so...03:11
Solaris444ok apparently the version on their website is 00.00.04.3703:14
qman__well, what I can tell you is the module on my file server is version 00.00.04.0103:14
Solaris444but that doesn't mean that was the first version of the driver to include support.03:15
Solaris444that's just the current version.03:15
qman__granted I haven't updated the kernel in a couple months03:15
Solaris444Well let me put it this way...03:16
Solaris444If I use the kernel module from their website...03:16
Solaris444I can't EVER update the kernel on the ubuntu box can i.03:16
qman__this should be helpful: http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/Documentation/scsi/ChangeLog.megaraid_sas?v=2.6.3203:17
Solaris444incidentally, what kernel version are you running?03:18
Solaris444thankyou, reading now.03:18
qman__might be hard to find it in there, but that's the complete changelog03:18
qman__if you can find out where in it support was added, that will answer your question03:19
qman__currently running 2.6.32-3203:19
Solaris444I think the 9260 is a new generation controller.03:19
qman__that link is to my version, but it has links to all the others03:20
Solaris444hello hello, check this out03:21
Solaris444https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/54609103:21
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 546091 in linux "10.04 Installer doesn't properly detect 9240 MegaRaid SAS Controlers " [Medium,Fix released]03:21
Solaris444looks like there was a bug but it appears to have been fixed in 2.6.32-2603:21
qman__lucky find03:22
qman__that confirms it03:22
Solaris444question though... if I *were* to use the kernel module on lsi's website...03:23
Solaris444I can't ever update the kernel, correct?03:24
qman__it would have to be recompiled with every update03:24
qman__and running production with kernel sources and compilers installed can be considered risky03:24
qman__Back in the Day (tm) I used to have to do that to run decent versions of nvidia drivers on my desktop03:25
qman__it was a bit of a nuisance in that case, can't imagine running a server that way03:26
Solaris444yeah, that's what i mean.  if I apply the kernel update, I'd have to recompile *prior* to rebooting, correct?03:26
qman__yes03:26
qman__well, prior to booting the new kernel03:26
Solaris444That's a really bad idea on a production mail server.03:27
qman__which it will try to do by default03:27
qman__and fail because of03:27
Solaris444right03:27
qman__you could always hack together some scripts to do it for you03:28
qman__but we all know how that goes03:29
qman__something that delicate would surely have just as many problems for a while03:29
Solaris444agreed.03:38
Solaris444unfortunately the final post in the bug claims it *isn't* fixed for the specific card the bug reporter has.03:39
Solaris444though it's newer than the reported card.03:39
qman__well, that kernel version is pretty old at this point, too03:43
Solaris444yeah, so i see.03:44
qman__there's been another re-roll of the disc since then, too03:45
Solaris444what version is the disc at now?03:45
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qman__10.04.303:46
qman__not sure which kernel version is on the disc03:49
qman__my K6 is running 2.6.32-28 and claims 10.04.3, but that's also running the -386 kernel, and I don't know if it can claim minor version status without a kernel update03:50
Solaris444*nods*03:51
Solaris444I understand.03:51
qman__none of my servers are were actually new lucid installs, I upgraded them from hardy03:52
qman__so I could be dragging some baggage03:52
twb13:06 <Solaris444> does anybody know if 10.04 LTS server has native support for the LSI MegaRAID 9260-4i RAID controller?04:00
twbSolaris444: does it show up as in lspci?04:01
Solaris444I don't have the system yet.04:01
Solaris444I won't purchase it if it doesn't.04:01
twbOK.  Well, if it's hardware raid, it will not matter because ubuntu will just see a disk (the virtual disk)04:01
Solaris444?04:02
Solaris444It's a hardware raid card, but it still needs drivers...04:02
twbHowever if you want to be able to configure LSI while ubuntu is running, i.e. without rebooting into the BIOS, then you will need stupid userland tools, and they can be made to go but they're horrible and painful.04:02
Solaris444Booting into BIOS is fine.04:02
Solaris444I mean, if the array were to lose a disk, I'd take the system offline to do it anyway.04:03
twbThen I *think* it'll be fine, but I would still recommend using md RAID instead unless you definitely need the extra throughput04:03
twbAlso you will want to buy a spare card in case the first one dies04:03
Solaris444But I did see a bug filed against 10.04 which claimed that some cards were not able to see the attached disks.04:03
Solaris444spare card?04:03
Solaris444that's a bit extreme isn't it?04:03
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uvirtbotNew bug: #862969 in nova "--logfile_mode flag does not properly set logfile permissions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86296904:35
idlemind324hey. i have 5 static ips and i am setting up a router box if i assign 1 of the ip addresses in my range only traffic for that single address comes through. how do i tell it to listen for the whole range?05:01
twbSolaris444: if your one card dies, and you can't buy a replacement because they're not made anymore, then all your data is gone05:10
twbSolaris444: hardware RAID cards are not interchangable, whereas md RAID you are fine as long as you have a new enough Linux kernel on your rescue system05:11
Solaris444true.05:13
Solaris444performance isn't as good of course.05:13
twbCorrect05:13
twbBut if it's just for an office's word documents and stuff, it doesn't matter05:13
twbIf it's the database server for, say, nintendo.com or ASX, that's different.05:14
SpamapSidlemind324: you need to assign the addresses as aliases in /etc/network/interfaces05:14
idlemind324spamaps: i can't do it through some kind of iptables rule? how is it done on cisco appliances and things of that nature?05:15
SpamapSidlemind324: no you can't because you need it to respond to arp requests05:16
SpamapSidlemind324: cisco appliances would also assign the addresses to the interface05:17
idlemind324k i'm tossing on aliases atm 1 sec05:17
SpamapSidlemind324: just make another interface..   eth0:1 .. eth0:2 .. with the address/netmask/broadcast05:18
SpamapSidlemind324: make sure its marked as 'auto' too so its brought up at boot time05:18
idlemind324for the aliases i shouldn't enter a gateway for them right?05:19
idlemind324ok made them aliases but i can't ping any of the alias addresses from an outside server but i can ping the ip i gave the physical interface05:21
idlemind324do i need to assign mac addresses to each alias?05:21
twbeth0:1 is ifconfig failspeak05:22
twbip is where it's at05:22
twbhttp://paste.debian.net/133151/05:23
SpamapStwb: how exactly does that translate to /etc/network/interfaces ?05:24
twbSpamapS: you put it in interfaces(5)05:24
twbThat paste I showed, that was straight out of /etc/network/interfaces05:25
SpamapSunmanaged inet manual .. hehe.. interesting05:25
SpamapStwb: have never seen that before05:25
twb"unmanaged" is instead of "eth0"05:26
SpamapStwb: the part I've not seen is manual setup..05:26
twbYou can name your ifaces logically in /etc/udev/70-persistent-net.rules -- this is very useful when writing an /etc/iptab (firewall), because it means you don't need to use variables and thus don't need m4 or cpp or sh05:26
SpamapSseems more BSD-like. :)05:26
twbmanual is just instead of static, so we can use ip instead of ifupdown's shitty old ifconfig05:27
twbifupdown is written in noweb FFS05:27
SpamapSI know05:27
SpamapSits a nightmare05:27
SpamapSbeen digging around in it this release05:27
Solaris444twb it's a mail and file server for a graphical design company05:27
idlemind324http://paste.debian.net/133152/05:27
twbSolaris444: shrug05:27
idlemind324^^ thoughts on why eth0:1 isn't working05:28
uvirtbotidlemind324: Error: "^" is not a valid command.05:28
twbSpamapS: IMO it should be just rewritten from the ground up to be less stupid05:28
SpamapStwb: would you be willing to write that up for the server guide? seriously, much nicer05:28
twbSpamapS: but knowing canonical they will probably fold it into systemd or something05:28
SpamapStwb: systemd.. who said anything about systemd?05:28
SpamapS<--- Canonical :)05:28
twbYes, but you lost all your upstart people05:28
twbto google or systemd, AFAICT05:29
SpamapS<--- upstart person05:29
twbOK, whatever05:29
SpamapSjhunt would be crushed to know that we lost him too05:29
SpamapStwb: upstart is, AFAIK, still the pid 1 for chromeos05:30
SpamapStwb: and we've already stated repeatedly that upstart isn't going anywhere before 12.04.05:30
twbOK, whatever05:30
SpamapS<-- sensitive about that05:31
SpamapSBut yeah, ifupdown is crap and I'd love to replace it with something simpler.05:31
twbFWIW I'm sick of both upstart and systemd05:31
SpamapSI think the way we introduced upstart was a bit manic.. WAY too much explicit event listing for things that should all just start on runlevel 2.05:32
SpamapSAnd the shutdown.. makes me sad.05:32
twbI want some determinism and better debugging05:32
twbLast time I looked if your system hung during boot because mountall got its knickers twisted, you could eitehr get no debugging, or pass --verbose which made upstart emit thousands of lines a second and you can't read them before they scroll offscreen, AND they aren't written to printk so you can't see them by modprobing netconsole before pivot_root05:33
twbI don't really care about stuff like "but what if you want to suspend the system, go home, plug into a new network, and have stuff work" -- because I don't DO that with my rack full of servers05:34
idlemind324o wait give it a few minutes and tada the alias addresses start workin05:34
SpamapStwb: actually they are written to printk as of 1.305:35
twbnot in lts tho05:35
SpamapSYeah, hopefully we won't have to make so many apologies for 12.04. ;)05:36
twbI'm sure you have been working hard to introduce new and exciting problems tho :P05:36
SpamapSIndeed, I think we call that "progress"05:37
twbI did an upgrade of my sid netbook the other day, and bluez, sudo and fbi were all broken05:37
twbtwb SMASH!05:37
twbIIRC, d-i won't let you create a user called "admin"06:58
twbWhy is this?  The user/group doesn't seem to exist in the static 0..100 area06:58
_rubenbecause it'd create a group admin, which is 'default'06:58
_rubeniirc06:58
twbBut I can't see one in /etc/group either06:58
twbThere is an "adm" but that's different06:59
_rubeni have admin on mine06:59
twbWhat gid ?06:59
_rubenprobably created by some app .. it's 11306:59
twbOK, I will grep over the postinsts in my package mirror to see if I can find it06:59
twbActually, can you save me a shitload of un-ar'ing and fgrep admin /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.p* for me?07:01
_rubendoesn't yield much useful stuff07:03
twbMmm, I'm seeing that07:05
twbI did find a box with that group07:06
twbWTF, coworker is suggesting sudo07:06
twbWhich I might not see because I'm using sudo-ldap...07:06
twb113 and 116 seem too high for sudo tho07:08
twbGiven sudo is installed quite early typically07:08
twbI reckon it's samba07:09
_rubenno samba on the box i checked07:10
twbit's always the group right after samba07:10
twbsambashare that is07:10
_rubenhere it's after snmp07:11
twbOK07:11
_rubenboth start with s... interesting? :)07:11
_rubensudo follows rather closely ;)07:11
_rubenbut doesnt seem to do it in postinst07:11
twbThe sudo guess is that in our sudoers, we have both %sudo and %admin07:13
_rubensame here, but when looking at postinst, i only see it create sudo07:15
twbOh well, I'm going to <beer> now, so don't stress over it07:18
_rubenDidn't intent to ;)07:20
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koolhead17hi all07:51
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osmosismy /boot is almost full. How do I remove unused kernels?09:00
_rubenjust like you would any other package09:09
bigjoolshas anyone experienced an empty resolv.conf when using a static network interface in oneiric?09:34
ikoniabigjools: did you define the name serves in the static network ?09:37
bigjoolsyep09:37
bigjoolsthis was working in natty until I upgraded to oneiric09:37
ikoniabigjools: if you try to look things up does it actually work ?09:38
bigjoolsno09:38
ikoniayou set it up in gnome-network-maanger I assume ?09:38
bigjoolsnot until I manually edit resolv.conf (which is wiped at next book)09:38
bigjoolsno, I edited /etc/network/interfaces09:38
ikoniawhy are you setting it there and not in gnome-network-manager ?09:39
ikoniahave you disabled gnome-network-manager if you're using the interface file ?09:39
bigjoolsbecause I don't have  gnome-network-manager09:39
ikoniabigjools: what desktop are you using ?09:39
bigjoolsthis is the server channel, right? :)09:39
ikoniamy god, yes, so it is. I thought you where in #ubuntu+1 as you where talking about 11.1009:40
bigjools:)09:40
ikoniacan you paste your interfaces file for me please (pastebin_)09:40
bigjoolsikonia: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/699610/09:41
ikoniathanks, one moment09:41
ikoniaok, have to be honest, never seen dns-nameservers or dns-search set in interfaces file09:41
ikoniaI'd honestly remove that, and just put them in /etc/resolv.conf09:42
ikoniaalso see if you have network-manager installed (dpkg -l | grep network-manager_)09:42
ikonia(without the _ )09:42
bigjoolsI do, it seems09:42
ikoniamaybe worth removing it, seeing as you're not using it09:43
ikonia(remove any potentialy issue)09:43
bigjoolsindeed, thanks for the advice09:43
bigjoolsI guess something changed in oneiric's n-m09:43
ikoniaeither that or the upgrade just enabled it09:43
ikoniaand it wasn't enabled in your natty box09:43
ersiI have both dns-nameservers and dns-search in my interfaces file. Works great.09:49
ersiOh, it won't work in Oneiric?09:49
bigjoolsseems that way09:50
bigjoolsmaybe the directives changed09:50
ersiOr maybe you don't have resolveconf installed anymore09:55
koolhead17zul: i can see keystone.conf finally but its still broken and now there is no keystone manpage09:56
rbasakShould https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/postfix/+bug/862915 be Importance: Medium? I've just set it to Low.10:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 862915 in postfix "package postfix 2.8.2-1ubuntu2.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 75" [Low,Triaged]10:00
rbasakTo answer my own question, it just occurred to me that no, it has an easy workaround so that's Low by definition.10:05
koolhead17hey kirkland10:31
ersirbasak: Indeed :)10:33
kirklandkoolhead17: hi11:08
DulcinHi, I just installed postfix on ubuntu 11 server and I only want to use it to send mails with php. Can anyone give me some hints on how to make sure that nobody else can use the mailserver?11:13
DulcinI read a little about SMTP Auth with postfix, but I'm not sure if this is required since I do not want users to have access at all11:14
koolhead17Dulcin: are other users on same system has ssh access?11:17
Dulcinyeah they do11:21
Dulcinbut I dont care, those are only admins11:21
Dulcinbasically I have a webserver, and it needs to send e-mails automatically11:21
Dulcinbut it has to be secure, so nobody else should be able to use the smtp server11:22
pmatulisDulcin: do not accept local mail (no local mail delivery) and do not accept to relay (see relay_domains)11:22
pmatulisDulcin: see the official postfix documentation, it's not hard11:22
DulcinYeah I started reading that, but then I realised it was to securing authorized users only, so I got confused11:23
Dulcinas I didn't want any users :)11:23
DulcinIll check those points you mentioned and skim through the documentation a bit more to see if I can find what I need then11:24
pmatulisDulcin: but you're supposed to always accept for postmaster and MAIL_DAEMON users (according to standards)...11:24
DulcinI'm really new to this, so I can only guess what that means at this point :)11:26
Dulcinbut I'll read through the postfix docs11:27
DulcinI was reading this: http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html11:27
johni need some help i want logmein-hamachi on my server but it complains about lsd-core and i cant get it or even lsd-base12:10
johnshadowdragon@ShadowDragonDen:~$ sudo dpkg -i logmein-hamachi_2.1.0.17-1_i386.deb12:13
john(Reading database ... 57941 files and directories currently installed.)12:13
johnPreparing to replace logmein-hamachi 2.1.0.17-1 (using logmein-hamachi_2.1.0.17-1_i386.deb) ...12:13
johnUnpacking replacement logmein-hamachi ...12:13
johndpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of logmein-hamachi:12:13
john logmein-hamachi depends on lsb-core (>= 3.0); however:12:13
john  Package lsb-core is not installed.12:13
johndpkg: error processing logmein-hamachi (--install):12:13
john dependency problems - leaving unconfigured12:13
johnProcessing triggers for ureadahead ...12:13
johnureadahead will be reprofiled on next reboot12:13
johnErrors were encountered while processing:12:14
john logmein-hamachi12:14
johnany one can help me figure this oen out?12:14
johnone*12:14
jussi!pastebin | john12:14
ubottujohn: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.12:14
jussijohn: but it looks like you need to do: sudo apt-get install lsb-core12:14
johntried that and sorry ill try to use pastebin next time12:16
johnlogmein works on my desktop but try to install it on my server i just set up tonight and it gives me that problem12:17
johnand wont let me get lsb-core for some reason12:17
johnoh and after i run dpkg to isntall the deb file or use apt to it constantly shows me logmein needs lsb core12:24
johni cant do any thing with apt12:24
pmatulisjohn: so install lsb-core12:27
pmatulisjohn: what happens when you try?12:27
johnhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/699716/12:29
pmatulisjohn: what release is this?12:30
johnubuntu server natty 32bit12:30
pmatulisjohn: maybe pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list12:30
johnok here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/699719/12:36
pmatulisjohn: did you try 'sudo apt-get -f install' ?12:37
johnyep still nothing12:37
pmatulisjohn: what was it's output?12:37
johnhmm i guess i should have tried it whout the lsb-core and stuff12:38
johncouse now its downloading things12:38
pmatulisjohn: right12:39
johnkinda new to the server thing i have only used ubuntu for about two years now12:39
janimodo the server developers using the ac100 arm netbook want some specific options present in the oneiric kernel? (DM, RAID, other things which normally would not make sense on such a machine)12:39
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johnthere we go now its working thanks for being patient with me12:41
pmatulisjohn: k, keep on truck'n12:41
janimoogra_, do you know which specific kernel devs have ac100 so I can ask them directly?12:42
janimos/kernel/server/12:42
ogra_janimo, hallyn_, Daviey and zul i think12:42
ogra_there might be more i dont know about12:42
zulgood morning12:53
zuljanimo: yes :)12:55
rbasakzul, I was going to send you a patch/review request for my nova-compute patch but found that you've already done it. Did you base it on patch set 1 or 2 from gerrit, or did you get it from somewhere else? There are bugs in patch set 1, patch set 2 is the one I'm happy with.12:57
rbasakAlso patch set 2 includes restarting the logger on nova-compute restart12:58
zulrbasak: im going to take patch set 212:58
rbasakOK cool12:58
rbasakTwo things that I haven't figured out how to test: rescue mode and live migration. But all the tests pass on patch set 2.12:59
zulrbasak: i need to update my lxc console patch but i found a problem with the lxc console patch yesterday to use console.fifo so that will be uploaded today after i figure it out12:59
zulk cool12:59
rbasakAlso, it seems that if nova-compute is stopped while a guest dumps >64k to the console then the guest hangs12:59
rbasakIf it dumps less than the logger picks it up out of the fifo buffer and it continues fine13:00
rbasaks/than/then13:00
smoserrbasak, so are you going to add ring buffer support to kvm next cycle ?13:00
rbasaksmoser: yeah, that does seem like a better way to do it13:00
rbasaksmoser: assuming everyone can agree on a ring buffer format, and libvirt will need to have support added too13:00
smoserthe guest hangs ?13:00
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smoseras in writes to /dev/ttyS0 hang13:01
smoserright?13:01
rbasakno, it seemed to hang the guest completely13:01
rbasakI need to retest to verify that13:01
smoser(not every one needs to agree, someone needs to do it, and thell others this is how it is!)13:01
rbasakin case it was something else that caused it13:01
zulsmoser: lxc? or something else13:01
smoserit would seem strange to me that a write to a bit of hardware should stop the cpu for a machine.13:01
rbasakwell the ringbuffer format I've implemented is how it is :-)13:01
smoser:)13:01
smoserrbasak, i agree.13:02
rbasakI think qemu might be assuming that the fifo reader never disappears13:02
rbasakI really should retest to verify though13:02
smoserzul, what issue did you have with your lxc console ?13:02
KM0201anyone know how to resolve thjis, trying to SSH my server, getting this error message on my client..   Warning: Permanently added '192.168.1.7' (RSA) to the list of known hosts.13:02
KM0201Permission denied (publickey).  (.7 is an ubuntu client... but i dont' know what file to modify to fix this)13:02
smoseryou're getting permission denied, KM0201 . the other side of the connection is not letting you in.13:03
KM0201oh ok... hmm.. so this is a server prob, right?13:03
smoserthe warning is telling you that the client system has seen this fingerprint of this server before, and so it is adding it.13:03
smoserKM0201, it would seem to be yes.13:03
zulsmoser: that it displayed the console output in the log file rather than the command output13:03
KM0201ok.13:03
smoserKM0201, or your client isn't using the right key that you have configured.13:04
KM0201well, i completley purged ssh on the client, and still had the issue.13:04
smoserone way or another, 'ssh -v <host>' and logs on the server will tell you more.  the server doesn't tell clients why they cant connect.13:04
smoserzul, i dont follow.13:05
KM0201smoser: gotcha, thanks13:05
zulsmoser: well when i run euca-get-console-output it displays nothing on the cli but it spews everything into the /var/log/nova/nova-compute.log13:06
smoserzul, well, it always does that.13:06
smoserstupidly, but with debug on user-data gets written to that log.13:06
zulsmoser: anyways ill figure it out13:06
smoserer... s/user-data/console-output/13:07
zulsmoser: this is what i mean: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/699744/13:10
smoserit writes the word logfile.13:11
smosernice13:11
zulanyways ill figure it out ;)13:11
janimozul, yes as in DM/RAID needed on ? Any other configs?13:15
zuljanimo: yes as in dm/raid needed...i would have a look at the linux-server config13:16
qman__I'm having a DNS problem. I'm trying to decommission one DNS server, and move a bunch of domains to the new one. The problem is, even though I have changed the IPs of my nameserver records, people are still asking the old one, weeks later. What am I missing? How can I find out?13:21
pmatulisqman__: dhcpd not updated?13:25
patdk-wkqman__, did you update your nameservers with your register for all those domains?13:25
rbasakqman__: you may need to change the zone on your old server to respond with the new NS records. Also try http://www.squish.net/dnscheck to check you've got everything set up correctly. I'm not sure where the right place to ask though, not sure that this channel is the right place.13:25
patdk-wknothing like bad dns glue :)13:26
qman__I didn't change anything on the registrars, but the domains use 'ns1.mydomain.com' and 'ns2.mydomain.com'. I changed the A records for those to the new IP13:27
patdk-wkdoesn't matter13:27
patdk-wkyou own mydomain.com?13:27
qman__that's not the actual domain, sorry13:27
qman__I forgot that's a real site13:27
patdk-wkdon't use other peoples domains as your own13:27
qman__what I meant was literally my domain13:28
patdk-wkdoesn't matter13:28
patdk-wkglue has to exist somewhere13:28
patdk-wkand unless the glue is updated, it won't go to your dns servers13:28
patdk-wkeverytime you change a dns server ip13:29
patdk-wkyou have to login to the register of that domain and update the glue13:29
patdk-wkfor the dns server domain name you use13:29
patdk-wkand that change can take 48hours (though normally only takes a few)13:29
qman__ah, ok13:29
qman__so I was missing a key step, thanks13:30
johnhere is a question with ubuntu natty server is there a way to make it auto login so i can have it launch somthing like a game server program13:30
patdk-wkjohn, isn't that what init.d? upstart? or even rc.local is for? :)13:30
patdk-wkhell, you could even use cron @reboot13:31
johnrc.local wont run it13:31
johnit seems like it dont want to work untill after every thing is loaded13:31
patdk-wkif it won't run it, that program is evil, and probably needs env thing set13:31
slestakhi guys.  anyone using the tmux package from the repo?13:31
qman__many game servers will only run interactive13:31
patdk-wkjohn, then add a sleep to it13:32
slestakI am getting a create session error.  Googleing gives me some leads but nothing ubuntu specific13:32
qman__I ran into this problem before, wrote up an init script which used screen13:32
patdk-wkqman__, true, but that is a fault of the person attempting to daemonize it, not the app itself really13:32
patdk-wkI mean, it's evil of the app, but can easily be worked around13:32
johnqman how did you get it to work or did you13:33
qman__john, created a user to run it as, then put together a couple scripts13:33
patdk-wkjohn it probably wants to bind to a pty, and normally that doesn't exist except with a real console13:33
qman__I can pastebin those scripts for you but I have to look them over first13:33
* patdk-wk remembers pty hell of using ssh from inside a freebsd jail13:34
johnalright qman that could help I'm just trying to get it to be as automated as posible  this is my first server and its a dedicated minecraft  server for a start13:35
qman__if I run 'dig glue domain.com', and it resolves correctly, does that mean glue records aren't the problem?13:39
patdk-wkyour using other peoples domains again?13:39
patdk-wkwhat is the problem ns server?13:39
patdk-wkand problem domain?13:40
qman__about 50 domains, the main domain is trsys.com13:40
qman__I inherited a mess, and I've never done this before, the domains are on several different registrars13:41
patdk-wkI am not getting any glue :(13:43
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patdk-wkstrange13:49
qman__I think I found it13:49
patdk-wksometimes I get a 216.x ip, and sometimes a 184.x ip13:49
patdk-wkfrom the same dns server13:49
qman__184 is the new one, 216 is the old one that's supposed to be going away13:50
patdk-wkmaybe some of the root servers are lagging in their updates13:50
qman__john, this is the script I made up for srcds:13:56
qman__http://pastebin.com/SM4KJTdV13:56
lynxmanmorning everyone o/13:56
qman__some details you'll need, srcds is the user it runs as, ryan is my user so I can screen, and /home/srcds/srcds.sh is a script which runs the game server itself13:58
iuytfrhellot13:58
iuytfranyone there13:59
qman__!anyone | iuytfr14:01
ubottuiuytfr: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.14:01
iuytfrwho know if there is someone there ?14:02
iuytfrwell14:03
iuytfrhow to perform a complete hard disk check up ?14:04
qman__iuytfr, you can monitor hard disk SMART information with smartctl, part of the smartmontools package14:05
zulrbasak: whats the difference between the two patches?14:09
reya276How can I fix this issue http://pastebin.com/Z5pDBGNS ?14:10
rbasakzul: I've added tests, fixed some existing test failures (including a bug) and added restart of logging on nova-compute restart14:10
zulk14:11
rbasakOh, and i8n in the RingBuffer error messages14:11
iuytfri just installed smartmontools14:12
iuytfrwhat i have to do now ?14:12
qman__iuytfr, sudo smartctl -a /dev/sd?   where sd? is your drive name14:14
qman__read the manual for more options and details14:14
reya276How can I fix this error http://pastebin.com/Z5pDBGNS ?14:14
reya276for some reason mysql wont start14:15
reya276in the mysql channel I was told it was an Upstart issue14:15
koolhead17kim0: around?14:18
kim0koolhead17: yep14:20
reya276ok I figured out the cause of the error, is not upstart http://pastebin.com/xfpzJkh714:26
ersireya276: most common thing to forget when moving stuff from the default locations ;) (I've done that as well)14:29
uvirtbotNew bug: #863330 in mysql-5.1 (main) "Link to Copyright File is Broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86333014:31
reya276ersi, what is the thing I forgot?14:33
reya276ersi, I doubt that this is the issue, right now mysql wont start because it can't write to the new directories and I have chown it already but nothing14:35
ersipermissions14:38
ersiYour permissions are still wrong, or something else is prohibiting it from writing there14:39
ersils -l / and check the file permissions on /Data14:39
CallidusDragonahh this is the one I wanted14:58
CallidusDragonHello. is anyone around?14:59
ikoniayes14:59
CallidusDragonIm having some troubles with my home server. Cant get use to using ssh15:00
CallidusDragonits not that im command line inept, its simply that im slow as hell using it. I also have no clue to do basic things like download files (or transfer from my home comp for that matter)15:01
ikoniaso what's your actual question ?15:02
KM0201probably wants a webui15:04
CallidusDragonwould be usefull15:04
KM0201CallidusDragon: how often do you need to ssh a home server though?15:04
CallidusDragon.... multiple locations15:05
KM0201once it's all set up and configured, you shouldn't really ever need to15:05
CallidusDragonno direct hardware access15:05
CallidusDragonand im on my setup phase15:05
ikoniaCallidusDragon: do you have a question, yes or no15:05
CallidusDragonWell considering the response I am getting, no.15:05
KM0201CallidusDragon: so your problem is, you type slow... and this is taking forever, or what15:06
ikoniaCallidusDragon: you are rambling in #ubuntu and you're not really asking a question in here, it's quite frustrating as people give their time to help15:06
ikoniaif you actually need help - ASK a question detailing your problem15:06
CallidusDragonI understand, however I am trying to form a question. And i dont see anyone else begging for help.15:06
CallidusDragonI have to configure my server to use ftp and its frustrating15:07
ikoniaCallidusDragon: so form the question15:07
CallidusDragonid much rather have a gui and use other tools.15:07
ikoniaCallidusDragon: ok, so you want to use FTP.15:07
CallidusDragonsftp in particular15:07
KM0201CallidusDragon: vsftpd is very easy to set up15:07
ikoniaCallidusDragon: have you installed an ftp daemon yet ?15:07
ikoniaok, sftp is part of ssh15:07
CallidusDragonDefine easy.15:07
ikoniaCallidusDragon: have you fot ssh installed ?15:07
ikoniaCallidusDragon: you don't want an ftp daemon15:07
ikoniayou want to use sftp as you've said which is part of ssh15:08
CallidusDragonCOnsidering i dont know what fot ssh is, no.15:08
ikoniahave you got ssh installed on the server, yes/no15:08
CallidusDragonI believe so.15:08
ikoniaCallidusDragon: ok, do you know how to install software from the package manager ?15:08
CallidusDragonyes15:08
jpdsCallidusDragon: So you have sftp already set up.15:08
CallidusDragonthen what is the command?15:08
ikoniaCallidusDragon: ok, install the package "openssh-server" just to be sure15:08
CallidusDragonive been using my ssh connection through putty for a week now.15:09
ikoniaCallidusDragon: let me know when you've installed it/confirmed it's installed15:09
CallidusDragonI have an ssh server15:09
ikoniaCallidusDragon: ok, so you should be able to sftp to that machine15:09
CallidusDragonI dont know how is the problem15:09
ikoniajpds: is the sftp line commented out by dwefadefault ?15:09
ikoniadefault15:09
jpdsikonia: No.15:09
ikonia(I don't have an ubuntu server to confirm)15:09
ikoniaCallidusDragon: ok, so what's the issue when you try to sftp15:09
ikoniaCallidusDragon: do you get an error/warning/issue15:10
CallidusDragonpull it back. How do enable an sftp session?15:10
ikoniaCallidusDragon: it's already enabled by default15:10
jpdsCallidusDragon: "sftp $IPADDRESS" is all I have to do.15:10
ikoniaCallidusDragon: hence why we are asking you try it and report back15:10
bastidrazorsftp and scp are the same?15:10
CallidusDragonScp was annoying as hell15:10
CallidusDragoni had to transfer 12 files15:10
ikoniaCallidusDragon: focus15:10
ikoniaFOCUS15:10
ikoniaCallidusDragon: can you please try sftp and report back15:11
CallidusDragon....15:11
CallidusDragonI dont know the syntax to use the command15:11
ikoniaCallidusDragon: sftp ip.address15:11
ikoniaas jpds suggested15:11
ikoniaCallidusDragon: I believe putty installs an sftp client by default15:11
ikoniaCallidusDragon: it's called "psftp"15:12
ikoniaCallidusDragon: it's in the same location as your putty command15:12
CallidusDragonone second15:12
CallidusDragonI dont use putty as a command15:12
CallidusDragonim on a windows machine.15:12
ikoniaputty IS a command15:12
ikoniait's in C:\program files\Putty15:12
CallidusDragonputty is a .exe15:12
idlemind324ahh run he said the naughty word c:\15:12
ikoniaCallidusDragon: correct,15:13
ikoniaCallidusDragon: so is psftp15:13
ikoniaCallidusDragon: it's in the same pyscial location as putty.exe15:13
rbasakzul, smoser, soren_: yeah, if nova-compute isn't running when a guest dumps more than about 64k to /dev/console, the guest freezes and when I restart nova-compute it can't seem to do anything. That's pretty bad.15:13
* CallidusDragon sighs15:13
CallidusDragonnow i need to remove the rsa key fingerprint for the server. I tried sftping into itself15:13
CallidusDragongreat.15:13
ikoniaCallidusDragon: focus,15:13
bastidrazorthere is 'winscp' that allows graphical copy paste to a server.15:13
ikoniaCallidusDragon: no you don't15:13
ikoniaCallidusDragon: just run the command psftp $ip-address15:13
CallidusDragonI am attempting to locate putty15:14
ikoniait's in c:\program files\putty15:14
KM0201if this is such an issue, why not just install an FTP client, and use filezilla to download/install files?15:14
KM0201sorry, download/upload15:15
ikoniaKM0201: please - one thing at a time15:15
CallidusDragonit is not btw.15:15
KM0201ikonia: i understand, just syaing, if his issue is typing commands, then help him get around his issue... i dunno.. just doesn't make any sense how this is being handled15:15
ikoniaCallidusDragon: then find it and come back to us15:16
CallidusDragonthat is what im doing15:16
zulrbasak: so no to your patch?15:18
rbasakzul: well it's a trade off - that's the catch with my patch but I don't see a better way. The patch is better than the previous vulnerability IMO, given that nova-compute will generally stay up and restarts will be quick15:19
zulrbasak: ok ill leave it as it is15:20
rbasakzul: other options are the ones I said in the gerrit comment - but none are that simple. I suppose the simplest workaround would be to spawn off processes instead of threads15:20
rbasak(so they can outlive nova-compute)15:20
rbasakDaviey: ^^ - any comment?15:20
Davieyrbasak: give me 20 mins?15:31
rbasaknp15:31
KM0201what's a good music player that can play a playlist from my server?15:36
KM0201movies, i just play them one by one w/ vlc.. music that won't work15:36
CallidusDragonWhat is the default install path for software?15:36
CallidusDragonikonia im sorry you were less than helpfull15:38
CallidusDragonMy issue was solved15:38
CallidusDragonit created a new one in the process im attemting to fix15:38
ikoniathats fine. Good luck then15:38
uvirtbotNew bug: #863305 in nova "Image access control is available" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86330515:39
Davieyrbasak: Spawning off processes from threads, seems kinda scary in this case, no?15:42
rbasakDaviey: I would drop the thread use, spawn off one process for each machine whose responsibility it is to create a pid file in the instance directory and then do the fifo reading/ringbuffer writing. The nova-compute process would be able to read directly from the ringbuffer fine (perhaps with an flock). It would be able to kill the reader/writer process by looking for the pid file.15:43
rbasakOn nova-compute restart it wouldn't have to do anything15:44
rbasakPerhaps it should check for pid files and spawn processes for missing ones though15:45
Davieyrbasak: Catching up on the comments15:50
Davieyrbasak: I'd quite like soren's opinion TBH.15:52
DavieyConsidering he has been following it from the start.15:52
DavieyI'm not convinced too many filehandles is a concern TBH.15:53
rbasakwhich one's soren?15:53
Davieyrbasak: soren_ is soren_15:56
DavieyHe hasn't commented on the review yet15:56
rbasakwhich opinion are you referring to?15:56
rbasakOh15:56
rbasakYou'd like his opinion, OK.15:56
* rbasak should learn to read15:56
Daviey:)15:57
Davieyzul: In bug 529714 you dropped a patch introduced by us as it seemed to be included upstream.  Seems not, can you investigate as a priority?15:58
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 529714 in eglibc "rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV in _nss_wins_gethostbyname_r()" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52971415:58
uvirtbotNew bug: #863277 in tomcat6 (main) "package libservlet2.5-java (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: нет доступа к архиву: Нет такого файла или каталога" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86327716:05
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philipballewQUESTION: Can I set up a VPN server if I have a really crappy router16:18
qman__philipballew, a VPN server can be set up as long as you can port forward (in the case of openvpn, udp 1194 or alternate)16:22
philipballewalright. yeah, I have my server in a place where the router is the default att router qman__16:25
cjs226anyone using reiserfs4?  i ask as I'm looking for a filesystem that allows for filenames longer than 512bytes/characters16:26
smoserrbasak, you can probably reproduce that behavior in kvm, right?16:29
qman__cjs226, last time I heard anything about reiser4, it was still hopelessly destroying data16:29
qman__things could have changed since but I haven't heard about it16:29
RiotCannon_WorkAnyone able to help me configure a mail relay on ubuntu server? I have been trying to get nullmailer to work for my nagios installation, only problem is no mail reaches my SMTP server16:29
cjs226qman_: ouch.16:29
qman__RiotCannon_Work, I recommend using postfix, because it's easy16:30
qman__just set it up as a satellite system16:30
qman__debconf walks you through it16:31
rbasaksmoser: kvm on its own without libvirt or nova? I expect so.16:32
rbasaksmoser: (after all I'm stopping nova-compute at that stage)16:32
smoserright. i'm just saying, for your testing you could cut out nova-compute.16:33
smoserto verify, just launch kvm guest, run dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ttyS0 and you're asserting it would lock up.16:34
www2hi i hef a problem with my apache server (httpd) and ipv616:35
RiotCannon_Workqman__ to test if postfix is working, what to I do?16:37
www2the problem is that i run vew domines and if i login https://b.domine.org i get the cert of http://a.domine.org16:37
qman__RiotCannon_Work, telnet localhost 25 and write yourself a mail16:38
www2note this work corext in ipv4 but not in ipv616:38
topochanbye people16:57
zulDaviey: yeahp17:02
adam_gzul: regarding glance, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/glance/+bug/86284417:06
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 862844 in glance "Glance config files and logs are world-readable" [High,In progress]17:06
adam_gnot sure which is preferred, http://paste.ubuntu.com/699911/ or http://paste.ubuntu.com/699916/17:07
zuladam_g: you tested with that postinst?17:09
adam_gzul: yeah, both do the job but im not sure which method is preferred (just 0700'ing the whole directory or 0600 the individual files installed via .install)17:11
zuladam_g: i would say the 070017:11
adam_gzul: hmm ok. ill put a proposal together in a min. as for the nova logfile_mode thing (bug #862816), should we just do the same to /var/log/nova/ until actually using the flag to set the modes gets fixed upstream? ive submitted a patch that is pending, but don't want to carry that unless it gets accepted17:15
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 862816 in nova "/var/log/nova/* is world-readable" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86281617:15
zuladam_g: yes17:15
zuladam_g: can you check to see if logrotate wont screw with the permissions as well17:16
adam_gzul: ah, yeah ill test in a few17:18
smoseris here known data in /var/log/nova that is sensitive ?17:18
smoseri know of console-output being logged there, which is potentially moderately sensitive, but anything else?17:19
sorensmoser: Yeah.17:20
sorensmoser: sql passwords.17:20
smoserwell, of course i assumed we were logging passwords17:20
smoseri meant anything *else*!17:21
smoser:)17:21
smoseri'd say thats important to fix then.17:21
sorenYeah.17:21
sorenWe don't currently have a "sensitive" flag type.17:21
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zulsoren: no but there is a flag to override the default log file permissions17:26
hallyn_zul: trying to reproduce our qcow-ext4 woes with openstack-lxc using a test script.  http://people.canonical.com/~serge/nbd-ext4-qcow-test.bash doesn't give me quite the same results, but it did screw up my laptop's kernel (hanging with sb_sem down or something - can't umount)17:28
sorenzul: Yeah.17:28
zulhallyn_: how about running an instance openstack-lxc and then umount the /var/lib/nova/instances/instances-xxxx/rootfs17:29
hallyn_zul: i want to reproduce it without openstack17:29
hallyn_zul: though i think it requires snapshotted qcow2 to really break.  So I'm thinking qemu-nbd itself is the problem.17:30
hallyn_still testing17:30
zulk17:30
hallyn_(so kernel is probably waiting on a hung qemu-nbd task)17:30
hallyn_zul: smoser may not know it, but he has the problem too :)  i've seen it in his syslog :)17:31
smoserhallyn_, i never saw that.17:33
smoserhallyn_, do you have a bug opne on this ?17:33
hallyn_smoser: not yet17:35
zulDaviey: just doing a test build now (re: samba)17:35
hallyn_smoser: you never saw it, but it was on that node you gave me access to yeterdsay17:35
hallyn_smoser: i needed a better testcase before i could report a bug17:36
RoyKhrmf. just updated my home server to 11.04 and now it doesn't join the wifi17:38
smoserhallyn_, i dmesged and didn't see it.17:41
Davieyzul: cool17:41
hallyn_smoser: dmesg | grep 'EXT4' showed no errors about jounral or bh_sumit or anything?17:42
smoseri didnt' see it.17:42
hallyn_huh17:42
hallyn_ok.  i guess i lied17:42
smoseri looked, but maybe i looked in the worng place17:42
smoserwho knows/17:42
smoserhallyn_, qemu-nbd is only in the disk write path for instances if instances are lxc17:43
smoserthat said, i'm assuming qemu-nbd is basically the same code path as would be taken for the qcow backed driver in kvm17:44
smoserthats kind of its point in life.17:44
smoserso a bug in one would be probably in the other.17:44
hallyn_smoser: i've not had a kvm based node in months17:44
hallyn_of course i'm vaguely recalling we had a 'fix' for a nbd driver bug that noone really understood...17:45
adam_gzul: logrotate cronjob works just fine after chmod 0700 /var/log/nova/17:45
zuladam_g: cool17:48
idlemind324i'm using iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -d x.x.x.x -p tcp --dport 22 -j REDIRECT --to-destination y.y.y.y:22 ... where x is external and y is internal17:54
idlemind324i get error "iptables v1.4.4: unkown option '--to-destination' but when i look in the man page it is there and is to be used in PREROUTING17:54
cjs226anyone using zfs?17:57
ikonianot really as it's not available on linux17:58
TheEvilPhoenix^17:59
hallyn_heh, forgot a crucial '&' in the uploaded version18:00
DrNick__why would you need zfs when you have LVM218:06
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uvirtbotNew bug: #863543 in samba (main) "package samba 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.3 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: il sottoprocesso nuovo script post-removal ha restituito lo stato di errore 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86354318:32
zuladam_g:  any closer to getting those fixes in?18:35
adam_gzul: yes, trying to submit proposals but launchpad is not working :|18:38
adam_gtimeouts when i try submitting them18:38
zulbah18:38
adam_g=/win 2418:38
adam_g"Trying again in a couple of minutes might work."18:39
zuladam_g: "we are sorry we are unable to complete the call as dialed please try again later"18:41
SpamapSDrNick__: ZFS and LVM2 aren't even in the same galaxy ;)18:41
DrNick__yeah, lvm2 is much better :p18:41
SpamapSat being less capable, yes.18:42
SpamapSdon't get me wrong.. I lurve lvm18:42
SpamapSjust.. ZFS has bits in it that LVM just can't have, or probably won't ever have.18:43
SpamapSbtrfs is a much better comparison.. but.. who knows when we'll get that18:43
DrNick__interesting, such as?18:43
SpamapSdata checksumming for one18:45
SpamapShttp://blogs.oracle.com/bonwick/entry/zfs_end_to_end_data18:45
SpamapSDe-duplication is another nice one18:46
SpamapShttp://blogs.oracle.com/bonwick/entry/zfs_dedup18:46
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DrNick__both nice to have features, but i suppose with pretty specific applications18:47
SpamapSDrNick__: just massive scale. :)18:50
SpamapSDrNick__: the data integrity isn't exactly a specific application thing. It is intended to prevent those "WTF" errors that people never even know about.18:51
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DrNick__yeah, would that have a performance impact tho?18:51
adam_gSpamapS: http://oss.oracle.com/projects/data-integrity/  looks like LVM/DM could be expanded to take advantage18:52
nowashburnanyone familiar with vsftpd?18:52
DrNick__yeah fairly familiar18:52
nowashburnawesome, first time setting up vsftpd (or any ftp daemon at that matter) and was wondering what the difference was between setting umask and file_open_mode18:54
mdlueckI have been trying to track down why 10.04 LTS servers do not automatically select kernel updates, but 10.04 desktop machines do? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=180724818:55
rich_Need advice on location of lucid JeOS suite for vmbuilder use.  Anyone?   I'm getting : Invalid suite. Valid suites are: dapper gutsy hardy intrepid jaunty karmic18:56
mdlueck@rich_ Those distros are pretty old, maybe JeOS has been abandoned18:57
ikoniamdlueck: dead for ages18:57
DrNick__i've never needed to set file_open_mode, just changed the default umask for users to 022, or 07718:58
nowashburnyeah, ill be the only one using the ftp account and wanted default 755 permissions, i couldnt seem to do this with umask and needed file_open_mode. does that sound normal?18:59
zuladam_g: just nova and glance right? (im reviewing swift right now)18:59
mdlueckAnyone with feedback on if Ubuntu Server should auto-select / auto-detect kernel updates or not?18:59
adam_gzul: yea18:59
DrNick__a umask of 022 should give you what you want19:01
mdlueckInitially when 10.04 came out I was getting notified (apticron), but for the past several kernel updates I must manually select the new kernel. How can I get automatic back?19:01
nowashburnno matter what i set the umask, the default file creation would not include execute permissions19:02
DrNick__hm strange. did you restart vsftpd after making modifications19:04
nowashburnother than that, the only other thing im struggling with is default directory permissions. when the user i created creates a directory, the directory has no default permissions. must be a way to at least make directories writeable upon creation?19:05
nowashburnyes, i did restart19:05
zuladam_g: swift taken care of...debdiffs?19:06
DrNick__try setting file_open_mode to 077719:07
adam_gzul:  generating now19:09
nowashburnchanged file_open_mode to 0777, file upload is fine but still the issue with creating directories19:10
philipballewQUESTION: can i set up a way to get alerted if my server goes down or something happens to it19:14
adam_gzul: attached to both bugs19:15
zulbug numbers?19:15
adam_gzul:  bug #862816 and bug #  #86284419:15
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 862816 in nova "/var/log/nova/* is world-readable" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86281619:15
adam_gzul: or if you want to just 'bzr merge' the linked branches, i guess that would work too?19:16
zulit should im not going to risk it right now though19:17
DrNick__what permissions are set on the directory?19:17
zuladam_g: applied the patches thanks19:26
Davieyzul: are you uploading today?19:27
zulDaviey: yeah19:27
nowashburnlooking at the directory in zilezilla after creation it just says xxx. i guess that means nothing is set?19:28
zulswift is already uploaded19:28
idlemind324so say i wrote a handy file named firewall.sh that has all the rules i want setup for my firewall. where is the best place to put that for it to run during boot-up?19:29
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DrNick__can you double-click it in filezilla to open it19:36
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Davieyadam_g: have you come across http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep3/ ?19:42
adam_gDaviey: doh. ive read it, but i guess i should freshen up next time huh?19:48
idlemind324hmm firefox is making me angry19:58
nowashburnDrNick__: I cant open the folder, but i do have permissions to change the permissions19:58
idlemind324ie 9 displays my xml output with it's xslt19:58
idlemind324firefox does not19:58
idlemind324this has to be a first19:58
DrNick__what's the output of ls -l on the host19:59
nowashburntotal 420:00
nowashburn-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1320 2002-12-05 00:58 jcameron-key.asc20:00
zulDaviey: nova uploaded20:05
zulDaviey: glance uploaded as well20:07
Davieyzul: super!20:16
uvirtbotNew bug: #836922 in swift "swift-ring-builder exit status confusing" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83692220:17
uvirtbotNew bug: #861656 in linux (main) "many ext4 errors " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86165620:23
SpamapSadam_g: definitely LVM could do that.. but I doubt it will be since BTRFS is slated to supersede the need.. I think. :)20:28
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hallyn_smoser: i think nova's nova/virt/disk.py:_unlink_device() perhaps should first check if the device is mounted?20:55
hallyn_rather than pursuing a questionable kernel fix...20:55
hallyn_i suppose one could argue qemu-nbd should be doing that check20:56
smosernova is the easiest place to fix that.20:58
smoserand its not going to be harmful20:58
DavieyDoctor, Doctor, my arm hurts when i twist it in a funny angle.20:58
sorennnnnnggggghhhhh....20:59
* soren stabs user-mode-linux20:59
hallyn_Daviey: i'm guessing there are several ongoing conversations your comment could apply to?21:00
hallyn_smoser: all right... i'll do it in nova.21:00
hallyn_i get to target that bug at a 3d package, yay :)21:01
Davieyhallyn_: :)21:02
smoserhallyn_, you think just search through /proc/mounts for '/dev/nbdX' ?21:02
DavieyI wonder if we'll exceed 20 nova patches by release.21:03
smoseror /proc/mountinfo might be better.21:03
hallyn_smoser: yes21:04
hallyn_smoser: you know i might not even need to do that check.  it might just help if nova actually checked the return value of umount.21:10
sorenhallyn_: Doesn't it=21:13
soren?21:13
hallyn_soren: ah, no - i suspect utils.py will raise an exception21:13
hallyn_soren: that's why i only see it when i do euca-terminate-instances the *second* time :)21:14
hallyn_so it needs the check in _unlink21:14
hallyn__unlink_device that is21:15
DavieyRoAkSoAx: around?21:27
Davieyadam_g / hggdh: You'll be happy to know the cobbler-enlist tool works from the cd menu.21:28
adam_gDaviey: nice!21:28
hggdhDaviey: \o/21:28
hggdhgood work you both :-)21:29
Davieyhggdh: and you.21:29
Davieyadam_g: I haven't tried preseeding it as an option yet.21:29
DavieyI'm kinda worried where the hostname can originate from..21:29
DavieyI'm wondering if cobbler-enlist should generate a name based on MM-AA-CC-AA-DD-RRess if a null value is provided21:30
robbiewDaviey: that would "seem safe"...maybe with "ubuntuserver-" prepended21:33
adam_ghmm21:33
hallyn_zul: yay, no more ext4 errors21:34
hallyn_lemme just keep pounding this , uh, fine lady21:34
Davieyrobbiew: node10.orchestra.target.waiting.for.juju.love.local21:35
robbiewumm...no21:35
robbiewlol21:35
SpamapSwe all need some juju love21:36
robbiewmaybe prepend orchestra-21:36
SpamapSI like just  ubuntu-XX-XX-XX-XX-XX-XX21:37
robbiewworks too21:37
SpamapSIts a reasonable length, and pimps us without being conspicuous21:37
robbiewor...not allow null value for hostname21:37
Davieyit's not known that the target will be ubuntu :)21:37
SpamapSDaviey: even better, that will make them feel even sillier for not installing Ubuntu with it. ;)21:38
Davieyrobbiew: Well, in order to automate this - it needs to generate a hostname on it's own, i think21:38
DavieySpamapS: hah21:38
robbiewthen ubuntu- it is21:38
robbiew I agree with SpamapS :P21:38
robbiewthey can always change it...the OS of course, not the name21:38
* robbiew goes to workout....Insanity!!!!!!! \o/21:39
SpamapSDaviey: does this trigger from the PXE boot as well?21:39
DavieySpamapS: That is the /plan/, but it's awaiting a preseed.21:40
SpamapScause even w/o that.. its useful .. admins can carry around a usb key that they boot from to make this come up21:40
DavieySpamapS: adding it to the ISO was for 2 reasons, try-before-you-commit usage & adds the ability to preseed for free (main target)21:41
SpamapSAn OEM could even ship it as the default image on disk.. :)21:41
Davieyhah, RoAkSoAx was looking at creating a preseed for cobbler to ship, i suspect he didn't have time this week to get to that21:42
sarthorI Installed apache2 on my ubuntu server, with apt-get -y install apache2, then i put index.html file in /var/www/ index.html file have some arabic words, .. I can not see that arabic words when i am browsing the site... how to solve this problem, to be able to view all the arabic fonts.23:13
idlemind324sarthor what character set is the document saved as? is the html file DOCTYPE declared with that encoding as well? does your browser have those fonts available?23:18
uvirtbotNew bug: #863738 in cobbler (universe) "cobbler package must depend on python-cobbler" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86373823:41
sarthorI am new to linux. httpd room asked "find out what your distro renamed the httpd binary to, then.", I am using ubuntu-server 11.04, So what will be my reply there in httpd room?23:45
SpamapSsarthor: apache223:45
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