[14:45] <Andre_Gondim> hi dpm
[14:51] <dpm> hi Andre_Gondim
[14:51] <Andre_Gondim> dpm, everything is ok?
[14:53] <andrejz> dpm, kelemengabor call in 5 minutes is still on?
[14:53] <kelemengabor> I'm in
[14:54] <dpm> andrejz, kelemengabor I thought I'd have to postpone it, but let's do it :)
[14:54] <dpm> Andre_Gondim, everything's fine here, how are you?
[14:55] <Andre_Gondim> so nice :D
[14:55] <Andre_Gondim> dpm, I just want to know, why in oneiric we have 3 gcc version to translate
[14:56] <Andre_Gondim> why we just have the last version?
[14:56] <dpm> kelemengabor, you sorted out the gcc templates, perhaps you can give Andre_Gondim an answer. Andre_Gondim, in any case, we do have all versions in Ubuntu, and we're including all templates
[14:57] <kelemengabor> Andre_Gondim: because there are 3 versions in the archives
[14:58] <kelemengabor> previously, they were all set up improperly, to use the gcc domain, so there was only one template
[14:58] <kelemengabor> but this was wrong, gcc actually doesn't use the gcc domain, but gcc-X.Y, according to the actual version numbers
[14:59] <kelemengabor> this was sorted out, so we have three gcc-X.Y domains
[14:59] <kelemengabor> and those translations will actually work, for those who want gcc errors localized
[15:00] <dpm> kelemengabor, andrejz, dialing...
[15:01] <dpm> andrejz, can you hear us?
[15:01] <Andre_Gondim> but they don't share the translate like others project?
[15:01] <kelemengabor> Andre_Gondim: good question, probably not
[15:02] <kelemengabor> at least I didn't set it up
[15:04] <Andre_Gondim> ok, now I unterstaind
[15:05] <kelemengabor> and I don't seem to have rights to do it :(
[15:11] <trijntje> dpm: is there any news on the localised iso images?
[15:11] <trijntje> ow wait, you guy's are on the phone, sorry
[15:17] <kelemengabor> trijntje: I see you :)
[15:25] <kelemengabor> trijntje: dpm says that the tools are there, but Canonical hasn't decided what can we change, until that, there won't be a big announcement, and our isos won't be called official remixes
[15:25] <kelemengabor> and advertised and all
[15:26] <kelemengabor> probably this project will be done for the next cycle, but not for this on
[15:26] <kelemengabor> e
[15:28] <trijntje> kelemengabor: thanks! Too bad it wont be done for oneiric, I think its a cool project. But I guess I'll need to be patient ;)
[16:39] <kelemengabor> dpm: I know now, what did I forgot to ask: what about these: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Wanted/
[16:40] <kelemengabor> is there anyone to push these into the packages?
[16:42] <dpm> kelemengabor, not really, no. There was some push to have all translations in, but now that most languages are translated, afaik the developers don't upload new translations unless there is a specific request. Chromium can be deleted from there because the desktop file is now handled in LP, FF+Thunderbird will -hopefully- be handled in LP at some point next cycle. LO, well, I need to talk to the maintainer to get to know the current status
[16:43] <kelemengabor> we have bugs and nervous translators for LO :(
[16:44] <kelemengabor> like bug #784081
[16:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 784081 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Translations of menu items have to be imported (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/784081
[16:45] <kelemengabor> and bug #774020
[16:45] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 774020 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Menu of Draw in zh_TW translation is not included in Natty (affects: 1) (heat: 5)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/774020
[19:07] <dpm> hm yeah, we should probably check if the zh_TW issue is at least fixed in Oneiric
[19:21] <dpm> ok, oneiric stats are ready, and now we can update them daily!
[19:21] <dpm> http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/stats/11.10/ubuntu-11.10-translation-stats.html
[19:22] <dpm> it seems that there are ~10 less teams to have reached the 80% cut-off, so I guess next week we'll have to have an extra call for translations
[19:24] <andrejz> cool, just need to nail down qt
[19:31] <dpm> yeah, I need to re-check the packages that need to be blacklisted, and if there is any missing. Oddly enough, app-install-data-ubuntu does not appear in the untranslated count of Catalan, although we haven't finished translating it
[19:31] <andrejz> dpm, i think less teams are in the range becasue the help was added
[19:32] <dpm> yes, it's quite possible
[19:32] <dpm> let me have a look what's going on with app-install-data-ubuntu...
[19:37] <andrejz> dpm i am looking at kdeqt
[19:37] <andrejz> are you sure it needs to be counted?
[19:38] <dpm> andrejz, yeah, it's on the CD and it's used by unity-2d
[19:38] <andrejz> strings look highly technical (for developers who want to develop with qt IMO)
[19:38] <dpm> ah, good point
[19:40] <andrejz> so i am not sure it makes sense to count those as the average user is probably not going to encounter those
[19:40] <andrejz> maybe there could be two stats (if not to difficult) - novice user and expert user visibility
[19:41] <dpm> andrejz, hm... looking at it, I'm not sure: it looks to me as the equivalent to the gtk package - it's essential to have all the Cancel, OK buttons and such things. On the other hand, Qt is only needed by the Unity 2D shell, the underlying part and the applications is still GTK
[19:41] <dpm> let me think about it while I investigate why app-install-data-ubuntu is not on the stats, which I think is more important
[19:42] <andrejz> i agree about app-install-data