| cyberanger | I've not been there before, I don't know people there now, and I didn't see anyone there stealing, too hypothetical | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| cyberanger | I can tell you what I think I'd do, but I just don't know, it's not happening now, never did before | 00:00 |
| * wrst makes attempt 3 at ubuntu minimal install | 00:00 | |
| wrst | yeah cyberanger you don't know until you are there | 00:01 |
| cyberanger | she phrased it perfectly too, tore down any walls, anything that kept it from feeling personal | 00:01 |
| wrst_shell | hmm cool | 00:02 |
| cyberanger | I don't have many friends in town, so saying I saw it | 00:02 |
| cyberanger | it was targetted to make it personal, and something like that, it'd be a shock | 00:02 |
| cyberanger | but yeah, a bit of an ambush in ways for that | 00:03 |
| cyberanger | that tear down the walls, rip up the textbook, one on one, here's the job, can you do it | 00:03 |
| cyberanger | here's your coworkers, can you work with them, can you turn them in, they're your friends now, can you | 00:04 |
| cyberanger | act like you didn't plan a response (by not acting, but being honest) and hope it's enough, show your charater, show you can answer a question 20 times harder than the job, that'd be the hardeest thing about this job if it happened | 00:06 |
| cyberanger | some people have different answers in mind, I didn't answer her, I responded like it was actually happening | 00:07 |
| cyberanger | best I can do | 00:07 |
| cyberanger | show that I think on my feet, but take it serously, and so on | 00:07 |
| cyberanger | anyhow, time to go, bbl | 00:07 |
| Unit193 | Adios mate, see ya | 00:08 |
| wrst | later cyberanger | 00:11 |
| Unit193 | Bah, I need more pandora stations... | 00:13 |
| wrst | Unit193: getting repeats | 01:45 |
| Unit193 | That too | 01:46 |
| Unit193 | Just need more verity | 01:46 |
| wrst | Unit193: watching a show on discovery called "Track Me If You Can" about living off the grid, its reminding me of cyberanger :) | 02:23 |
| Unit193 | wrst: Yeah, was thinking the same thing as I read that (Or what you would be thinking). We be watching Doctor Who reruns :D | 02:23 |
| wrst | he has a baseball cap with LED lights to hide from cameras at night | 02:28 |
| Unit193 | Heh, wow... | 02:30 |
| wrst | the leds aren't visible, but blind the cameras in low light | 02:30 |
| pace_t_zulu | gross | 12:11 |
| pace_t_zulu | netsplit | 12:11 |
| pace_t_zulu | who is meetingology` | 12:11 |
| wrst | a bot of some sort pace_t_zulu i'm unsure of purpose | 12:12 |
| wrst | of course you knew that :) | 12:12 |
| pace_t_zulu | pleia2: do you know anything about this meetingology` clown? | 12:13 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: :) | 12:21 |
| pace_t_zulu | hey guys ... reminder that we have a meeting next thursday ... http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/tennessee.team/157/detail/ | 12:33 |
| pace_t_zulu | cyberanger wrst Svpernova09 orias ... reminder about meeting next thursday | 12:34 |
| pace_t_zulu | add agenda items for next thursday's meeting at http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/tennessee.team/157/detail/ | 12:34 |
| cyberanger | pace_t_zulu: you saying that cause the adgenda is light | 14:24 |
| cyberanger | wrst: didn't know about that show, but check out http;//www.wired.com/vanish | 14:31 |
| cyberanger | I know that's something I think of | 14:31 |
| wrst | ahh cyberanger that's interesting | 14:43 |
| wrst | it is neat to think of trying to go under the radar | 14:43 |
| cyberanger | trying to imagine what evan ratliff did, kinda makes me wonder | 14:50 |
| wrst | cyberanger: you have anything much going on this weekend? | 14:58 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst cyberanger i am planning a release party in nashville on a friday evening between Oct 14 and Nov 4 | 15:35 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst cyberanger would either of y'all be able to attend? | 15:35 |
| pace_t_zulu | xpistos: ^ | 15:35 |
| pace_t_zulu | xpistos: you too on the release party question | 15:36 |
| wrst | hmm pace_t_zulu possibility | 15:46 |
| pace_t_zulu | i've updated the meeting agenda | 15:52 |
| pace_t_zulu | http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/tennessee.team/157/detail/ | 15:52 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: | 15:52 |
| pace_t_zulu | let's get on this map .... http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ | 15:52 |
| pleia2 | pace_t_zulu: here's the instructions for how to use meetingology to track a meeting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 15:53 |
| pace_t_zulu | pleia2: looks like MootBot++ | 15:55 |
| pleia2 | yes, it's mootbot's replacement | 15:55 |
| pace_t_zulu | f yea | 15:55 |
| pace_t_zulu | we're using it | 15:55 |
| pace_t_zulu | i'll ask the MootBot people to get MootBot out of this room | 15:55 |
| wrst | pace_t_zulu: you seem excited about that :D | 15:56 |
| pace_t_zulu | pleia2: thanks ... pardon my french up there :/ | 15:56 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: i've never been a fan of MootBot beyond it's basic functionality | 15:56 |
| pace_t_zulu | pleia2: will meetingology` log to a server that will retain logs indefinitely? | 15:56 |
| wrst | pleia2: you are like the encyclopedia of all things ubuntu and ubuntu related! | 15:56 |
| pace_t_zulu | MootBot's logs get deleted after a year or so | 15:57 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: pleia2 is very familiar with the loco system ;) | 15:57 |
| pleia2 | pace_t_zulu: it only logs meeting logs, and for transparency your team should keep those around forever | 15:57 |
| pleia2 | so people in the future know the history of the team | 15:57 |
| wrst | pace_t_zulu: yes by very familiar, meaning she's the stuff! | 15:57 |
| pace_t_zulu | pleia2: are you saying the team should be responsible for retaining logs? | 15:57 |
| pace_t_zulu | after about a year or so ... | 15:57 |
| pleia2 | pace_t_zulu: no, I'm saying you shouldn't want them to be deleted | 15:58 |
| pace_t_zulu | but they will be available through ubuntu's servers in the short term | 15:58 |
| pleia2 | yes | 15:58 |
| pace_t_zulu | pleia2: i definitely do *not* want them deleted | 15:58 |
| pace_t_zulu | pleia2: it's been frustrating for me to see them deleted off MootBot's servers | 15:58 |
| pleia2 | at the end of the meeting it outputs some text that you can copy/paste into a wiki page so you have a permanent record, nicely formatted with automatic minutes | 15:58 |
| wrst | cool | 15:59 |
| pleia2 | like this: http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/20110908 | 15:59 |
| pace_t_zulu | pleia2: but without an organized effort to validate the logs - there's little way of certifying that our logs have been untampered with once a team member has handled them ... | 15:59 |
| pleia2 | pace_t_zulu: all wiki pages have editing history from the beginning of the page | 15:59 |
| pleia2 | so you can see all revisions | 15:59 |
| pace_t_zulu | pleia2: doesn't mean the person copy-pasting can't revise in a text editor in between | 16:00 |
| pleia2 | why would they do that? | 16:00 |
| pace_t_zulu | pleia2: to be quite honest ... i think it'd be an excellent meetingology feature to automate that | 16:00 |
| pleia2 | just make sure the person copying them is trusted, I've just never seen such a case | 16:01 |
| pace_t_zulu | pleia2: i'm not saying i or anyone else would | 16:01 |
| pace_t_zulu | pleia2: but where there's opportunity - there are people ready to take it | 16:01 |
| pleia2 | automating anything with the wiki is very, very difficult since it requires authenticated login through launchpad to edit the wiki | 16:01 |
| pleia2 | what kind of people? just have the team leader or someone you trust copy the meeting logs, or someone review them if you're so worried | 16:01 |
| wrst | pace_t_zulu: i would suggest us assigning that to someone on the leadership team that way it shouldn't be an issue | 16:02 |
| pace_t_zulu | pleia2, right ... but they could easily be dumped perhaps to loco.ubuntu.com | 16:02 |
| pleia2 | anyway, off to work for me | 16:02 |
| pace_t_zulu | pleia2: sorry :/ | 16:02 |
| pace_t_zulu | pleia2: is there a channel where meetingology dev's are? | 16:02 |
| wrst | pace_t_zulu: there is a #meetingology on freenode | 16:03 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: thanks ... you know the MootBot channel perchance? | 16:03 |
| wrst | nope but I will do some research | 16:04 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: MootBot is only in our channel as far as i can tell | 16:04 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: i'm going to kick MootBot ... hope it's not offended | 16:05 |
| wrst | yeah pace_t_zulu going to say a kick or kick ban would take care of things | 16:05 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: kick-ban was necessary as you can see | 16:06 |
| wrst | yes had a feeling that would be required :) | 16:08 |
| pleia2 | the devs of the meetingology` are similar to those of mootbot, I think they all hang out in #ubuntu-bots, that's where you can request removals or ask questions | 16:08 |
| pleia2 | (if not I'm sure they'll tell you to go to the right channel) | 16:08 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: your thoughts on backports? | 16:12 |
| pace_t_zulu | pleia2: thanks | 16:12 |
| pace_t_zulu | pleia2: i wasn't trying to criticise ... it looks that way though :/ | 16:12 |
| pace_t_zulu | pleia2: i'm excited about meetingology` :) | 16:12 |
| pace_t_zulu | and i'll take responsibility for the copy-paste | 16:13 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: you think cyberanger may call foul on copy-paste procedure ;) | 16:13 |
| wrst | well he does rather like to have i's dottted and t's crossed :) | 16:14 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: there's only one person in this room that i could see calling foul on that (besides me ;) ) | 16:14 |
| wrst | pace_t_zulu: i have never really used the backports much since i generally upgrade every 6 months | 16:14 |
| pace_t_zulu | and that's cyberanger | 16:14 |
| pace_t_zulu | love you cyberanger ;) | 16:14 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: lucid packages are a bit stale ... | 16:16 |
| wrst | yeah pace_t_zulu they are :) | 16:17 |
| wrst | i think backports is a good solution, I'm a fan of rolling releases, however, on desktop thats fine on say server applications I wouldn't want that | 16:17 |
| wrst | wb pace_t_zulu | 16:19 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: lucid packages are rather stale | 16:23 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: just added backports repo | 16:23 |
| wrst | yeah pace_t_zulu, I like backports, i prefer a rolling release on my desktop but on the server I don't think that is the way to go | 16:23 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: had to reboot | 16:23 |
| wrst | ahh | 16:24 |
| wrst | had a feeling | 16:24 |
| wrst | you still using the ec2 instance? | 16:24 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: indeed | 16:27 |
| wrst | that seems to be working well? | 16:50 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: i have been connected persistently since the spring | 18:19 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: with the exception of some weirdness with quassel-core that was resolved with a package update | 18:19 |
| pace_t_zulu | i was not connected for like a weekend | 18:20 |
| Unit193 | /remove takes care of it very well too ;) | 18:25 |
| Unit193 | Howdy chris4585 | 19:02 |
| wrst | pace_t_zulu: do they offer any newer ubuntu's? | 19:27 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: yea ... | 21:36 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: i like running lts on server | 21:37 |
| pace_t_zulu | *LTS | 21:37 |
| binarymutant | ...this channel is so quiet... | 22:09 |
| binarymutant | anyone know how to auto-auth with nickserv in irssi? | 22:11 |
| binarymutant | <-lazy | 22:11 |
| binarymutant | and how to auto load a script in irssi | 22:12 |
| binarymutant | <- again lazy | 22:12 |
| pace_t_zulu | binarymutant: | 22:13 |
| pace_t_zulu | hi | 22:13 |
| pace_t_zulu | i'm using irssi atm | 22:13 |
| binarymutant | pace_t_zulu: hiya! | 22:13 |
| pace_t_zulu | binarymutant: nice to see you back | 22:13 |
| pace_t_zulu | binarymutant: i'm setting up znc | 22:13 |
| pace_t_zulu | http://wiki.znc.in/ZNC | 22:14 |
| binarymutant | thats pretty cool | 22:15 |
| pace_t_zulu | yea ... you can connect to it with irssi | 22:15 |
| pace_t_zulu | but it enables persistent connections without locking you into a specific client | 22:16 |
| pace_t_zulu | *cough* quassel *cough* | 22:16 |
| binarymutant | it's a bot | 22:17 |
| binarymutant | in a sense | 22:18 |
| binarymutant | pretty nifty if you have a stable connection (i'm using a laptop) | 22:19 |
| pace_t_zulu | binarymutant: thought about an ec2 deployment? | 22:23 |
| binarymutant | pace_t_zulu: too much money for me :D | 22:24 |
| pace_t_zulu | binarymutant: costs me >$1/month | 22:24 |
| binarymutant | whaa? really? | 22:24 |
| pace_t_zulu | binarymutant: last months bill ... $0.92 | 22:24 |
| pace_t_zulu | month before $.94 | 22:25 |
| pace_t_zulu | ubuntu server | 22:25 |
| binarymutant | I'll have to check into that | 22:25 |
| binarymutant | pace_t_zulu: you use amazon's service? | 22:25 |
| pace_t_zulu | originally set it up to tunnel on public wifi | 22:25 |
| pace_t_zulu | binarymutant: yea | 22:25 |
| pace_t_zulu | binarymutant: but it's running quassel-core and bitlbee now | 22:25 |
| pace_t_zulu | i use it to host http://johnhaitas.info ... (shameless plug ;) ) | 22:26 |
| pace_t_zulu | and as a git server | 22:26 |
| pace_t_zulu | beats the shit out of paying $15/month to GitHub for a grand total of 5 private repos | 22:26 |
| binarymutant | I thought github gave free repos | 22:27 |
| binarymutant | bitbucket does :D | 22:27 |
| binarymutant | like 5 free | 22:27 |
| binarymutant | pace_t_zulu: I don't really understand the "per hour" pricing ec2 has | 22:27 |
| pace_t_zulu | binarymutant: github does not provide free private repos | 22:28 |
| pace_t_zulu | binarymutant: and even a 5 repo limit is too prohitive | 22:28 |
| pace_t_zulu | binarymutant: it was confusing for me ... but i am paying less than $1 per month ... the server is running 24/7 | 22:29 |
| pace_t_zulu | i am on the free tier/micro tier | 22:29 |
| binarymutant | that is awesome (signing up now) | 22:29 |
| binarymutant | pace_t_zulu: your a good salesman :P | 22:29 |
| pace_t_zulu | binarymutant: i love it | 22:29 |
| pace_t_zulu | binarymutant: i'd love it if you have one too ... because i know you'd get the most out of it ... | 22:30 |
| binarymutant | with that said I better read the TOS | 22:31 |
| pace_t_zulu | binarymutant: i am running a free tier ubuntu server 10.04 | 22:31 |
| binarymutant | signed up for the free acct :D | 22:33 |
| binarymutant | pace_t_zulu: have you tried rackspaces cloud yet too? | 22:34 |
| binarymutant | or any others | 22:35 |
| binarymutant | aw my prepaid credit didn't go through :( | 22:38 |
| wrst | pace_t_zulu: don't blame you on running LTS on server | 22:49 |
| binarymutant | uptime is great with stable/lts | 22:52 |
| pace_t_zulu | binarymutant: haven't tried rackspace ... i use their jungledisk product for work | 22:54 |
| pace_t_zulu | but never a cloud deployment over there | 22:55 |
| pace_t_zulu | i suppose i should give it a go | 22:55 |
| binarymutant | idk I might use that shell provider Unit was talking about, it's free with no cc required | 22:57 |
| binarymutant | they don't allow tunneling though :/ | 22:57 |
| pace_t_zulu | binarymutant: gotta run ... | 22:58 |
| pace_t_zulu | binarymutant: who doesn't allow tunneling? | 22:58 |
| pace_t_zulu | binarymutant: openvnc ... tunnel through there | 22:59 |
| pace_t_zulu | binarymutant: let me know if you get znc setup on your cloud deployment ;) | 22:59 |
| binarymutant | pace_t_zulu: will do, thanks for the advice | 22:59 |
| binarymutant | [gripe] devs not supporting their products well (luakit) | 23:17 |
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