[00:00] I've not been there before, I don't know people there now, and I didn't see anyone there stealing, too hypothetical [00:00] I can tell you what I think I'd do, but I just don't know, it's not happening now, never did before [00:00] * wrst makes attempt 3 at ubuntu minimal install [00:01] yeah cyberanger you don't know until you are there [00:01] she phrased it perfectly too, tore down any walls, anything that kept it from feeling personal [00:02] hmm cool [00:02] I don't have many friends in town, so saying I saw it [00:02] it was targetted to make it personal, and something like that, it'd be a shock [00:03] but yeah, a bit of an ambush in ways for that [00:03] that tear down the walls, rip up the textbook, one on one, here's the job, can you do it [00:04] here's your coworkers, can you work with them, can you turn them in, they're your friends now, can you [00:06] act like you didn't plan a response (by not acting, but being honest) and hope it's enough, show your charater, show you can answer a question 20 times harder than the job, that'd be the hardeest thing about this job if it happened [00:07] some people have different answers in mind, I didn't answer her, I responded like it was actually happening [00:07] best I can do [00:07] show that I think on my feet, but take it serously, and so on [00:07] anyhow, time to go, bbl [00:08] Adios mate, see ya [00:11] later cyberanger [00:13] Bah, I need more pandora stations... [01:45] Unit193: getting repeats [01:46] That too [01:46] Just need more verity [02:23] Unit193: watching a show on discovery called "Track Me If You Can" about living off the grid, its reminding me of cyberanger :) [02:23] wrst: Yeah, was thinking the same thing as I read that (Or what you would be thinking). We be watching Doctor Who reruns :D [02:28] he has a baseball cap with LED lights to hide from cameras at night [02:30] Heh, wow... [02:30] the leds aren't visible, but blind the cameras in low light [12:11] gross [12:11] netsplit [12:11] who is meetingology` [12:12] a bot of some sort pace_t_zulu i'm unsure of purpose [12:12] of course you knew that :) [12:13] pleia2: do you know anything about this meetingology` clown? [12:21] wrst: :) [12:33] hey guys ... reminder that we have a meeting next thursday ... http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/tennessee.team/157/detail/ [12:34] cyberanger wrst Svpernova09 orias ... reminder about meeting next thursday [12:34] add agenda items for next thursday's meeting at http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/tennessee.team/157/detail/ [14:24] pace_t_zulu: you saying that cause the adgenda is light [14:31] wrst: didn't know about that show, but check out http;//www.wired.com/vanish [14:31] I know that's something I think of [14:43] ahh cyberanger that's interesting [14:43] it is neat to think of trying to go under the radar [14:50] trying to imagine what evan ratliff did, kinda makes me wonder [14:58] cyberanger: you have anything much going on this weekend? [15:35] wrst cyberanger i am planning a release party in nashville on a friday evening between Oct 14 and Nov 4 [15:35] wrst cyberanger would either of y'all be able to attend? [15:35] xpistos: ^ [15:36] xpistos: you too on the release party question [15:46] hmm pace_t_zulu possibility [15:52] i've updated the meeting agenda [15:52] http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/tennessee.team/157/detail/ [15:52] wrst: [15:52] let's get on this map .... http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ [15:53] pace_t_zulu: here's the instructions for how to use meetingology to track a meeting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [15:55] pleia2: looks like MootBot++ [15:55] yes, it's mootbot's replacement [15:55] f yea [15:55] we're using it [15:55] i'll ask the MootBot people to get MootBot out of this room [15:56] pace_t_zulu: you seem excited about that :D [15:56] pleia2: thanks ... pardon my french up there :/ [15:56] wrst: i've never been a fan of MootBot beyond it's basic functionality [15:56] pleia2: will meetingology` log to a server that will retain logs indefinitely? [15:56] pleia2: you are like the encyclopedia of all things ubuntu and ubuntu related! [15:57] MootBot's logs get deleted after a year or so [15:57] wrst: pleia2 is very familiar with the loco system ;) [15:57] pace_t_zulu: it only logs meeting logs, and for transparency your team should keep those around forever [15:57] so people in the future know the history of the team [15:57] pace_t_zulu: yes by very familiar, meaning she's the stuff! [15:57] pleia2: are you saying the team should be responsible for retaining logs? [15:57] after about a year or so ... [15:58] pace_t_zulu: no, I'm saying you shouldn't want them to be deleted [15:58] but they will be available through ubuntu's servers in the short term [15:58] yes [15:58] pleia2: i definitely do *not* want them deleted [15:58] pleia2: it's been frustrating for me to see them deleted off MootBot's servers [15:58] at the end of the meeting it outputs some text that you can copy/paste into a wiki page so you have a permanent record, nicely formatted with automatic minutes [15:59] cool [15:59] like this: http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/20110908 [15:59] pleia2: but without an organized effort to validate the logs - there's little way of certifying that our logs have been untampered with once a team member has handled them ... [15:59] pace_t_zulu: all wiki pages have editing history from the beginning of the page [15:59] so you can see all revisions [16:00] pleia2: doesn't mean the person copy-pasting can't revise in a text editor in between [16:00] why would they do that? [16:00] pleia2: to be quite honest ... i think it'd be an excellent meetingology feature to automate that [16:01] just make sure the person copying them is trusted, I've just never seen such a case [16:01] pleia2: i'm not saying i or anyone else would [16:01] pleia2: but where there's opportunity - there are people ready to take it [16:01] automating anything with the wiki is very, very difficult since it requires authenticated login through launchpad to edit the wiki [16:01] what kind of people? just have the team leader or someone you trust copy the meeting logs, or someone review them if you're so worried [16:02] pace_t_zulu: i would suggest us assigning that to someone on the leadership team that way it shouldn't be an issue [16:02] pleia2, right ... but they could easily be dumped perhaps to loco.ubuntu.com [16:02] anyway, off to work for me [16:02] pleia2: sorry :/ [16:02] pleia2: is there a channel where meetingology dev's are? [16:03] pace_t_zulu: there is a #meetingology on freenode [16:03] wrst: thanks ... you know the MootBot channel perchance? [16:04] nope but I will do some research [16:04] wrst: MootBot is only in our channel as far as i can tell [16:05] wrst: i'm going to kick MootBot ... hope it's not offended [16:05] yeah pace_t_zulu going to say a kick or kick ban would take care of things [16:06] wrst: kick-ban was necessary as you can see [16:08] yes had a feeling that would be required :) [16:08] the devs of the meetingology` are similar to those of mootbot, I think they all hang out in #ubuntu-bots, that's where you can request removals or ask questions [16:08] (if not I'm sure they'll tell you to go to the right channel) [16:12] wrst: your thoughts on backports? [16:12] pleia2: thanks [16:12] pleia2: i wasn't trying to criticise ... it looks that way though :/ [16:12] pleia2: i'm excited about meetingology` :) [16:13] and i'll take responsibility for the copy-paste [16:13] wrst: you think cyberanger may call foul on copy-paste procedure ;) [16:14] well he does rather like to have i's dottted and t's crossed :) [16:14] wrst: there's only one person in this room that i could see calling foul on that (besides me ;) ) [16:14] pace_t_zulu: i have never really used the backports much since i generally upgrade every 6 months [16:14] and that's cyberanger [16:14] love you cyberanger ;) [16:16] wrst: lucid packages are a bit stale ... [16:17] yeah pace_t_zulu they are :) [16:17] i think backports is a good solution, I'm a fan of rolling releases, however, on desktop thats fine on say server applications I wouldn't want that [16:19] wb pace_t_zulu [16:23] wrst: lucid packages are rather stale [16:23] wrst: just added backports repo [16:23] yeah pace_t_zulu, I like backports, i prefer a rolling release on my desktop but on the server I don't think that is the way to go [16:23] wrst: had to reboot [16:24] ahh [16:24] had a feeling [16:24] you still using the ec2 instance? [16:27] wrst: indeed [16:50] that seems to be working well? [18:19] wrst: i have been connected persistently since the spring [18:19] wrst: with the exception of some weirdness with quassel-core that was resolved with a package update [18:20] i was not connected for like a weekend [18:25] /remove takes care of it very well too ;) [19:02] Howdy chris4585 [19:27] pace_t_zulu: do they offer any newer ubuntu's? [21:36] wrst: yea ... [21:37] wrst: i like running lts on server [21:37] *LTS [22:09] ...this channel is so quiet... [22:11] anyone know how to auto-auth with nickserv in irssi? [22:11] <-lazy [22:12] and how to auto load a script in irssi [22:12] <- again lazy [22:13] binarymutant: [22:13] hi [22:13] i'm using irssi atm [22:13] pace_t_zulu: hiya! [22:13] binarymutant: nice to see you back [22:13] binarymutant: i'm setting up znc [22:14] http://wiki.znc.in/ZNC [22:15] thats pretty cool [22:15] yea ... you can connect to it with irssi [22:16] but it enables persistent connections without locking you into a specific client [22:16] *cough* quassel *cough* [22:17] it's a bot [22:18] in a sense [22:19] pretty nifty if you have a stable connection (i'm using a laptop) [22:23] binarymutant: thought about an ec2 deployment? [22:24] pace_t_zulu: too much money for me :D [22:24] binarymutant: costs me >$1/month [22:24] whaa? really? [22:24] binarymutant: last months bill ... $0.92 [22:25] month before $.94 [22:25] ubuntu server [22:25] I'll have to check into that [22:25] pace_t_zulu: you use amazon's service? [22:25] originally set it up to tunnel on public wifi [22:25] binarymutant: yea [22:25] binarymutant: but it's running quassel-core and bitlbee now [22:26] i use it to host http://johnhaitas.info ... (shameless plug ;) ) [22:26] and as a git server [22:26] beats the shit out of paying $15/month to GitHub for a grand total of 5 private repos [22:27] I thought github gave free repos [22:27] bitbucket does :D [22:27] like 5 free [22:27] pace_t_zulu: I don't really understand the "per hour" pricing ec2 has [22:28] binarymutant: github does not provide free private repos [22:28] binarymutant: and even a 5 repo limit is too prohitive [22:29] binarymutant: it was confusing for me ... but i am paying less than $1 per month ... the server is running 24/7 [22:29] i am on the free tier/micro tier [22:29] that is awesome (signing up now) [22:29] pace_t_zulu: your a good salesman :P [22:29] binarymutant: i love it [22:30] binarymutant: i'd love it if you have one too ... because i know you'd get the most out of it ... [22:31] with that said I better read the TOS [22:31] binarymutant: i am running a free tier ubuntu server 10.04 [22:33] signed up for the free acct :D [22:34] pace_t_zulu: have you tried rackspaces cloud yet too? [22:35] or any others [22:38] aw my prepaid credit didn't go through :( [22:49] pace_t_zulu: don't blame you on running LTS on server [22:52] uptime is great with stable/lts [22:54] binarymutant: haven't tried rackspace ... i use their jungledisk product for work [22:55] but never a cloud deployment over there [22:55] i suppose i should give it a go [22:57] idk I might use that shell provider Unit was talking about, it's free with no cc required [22:57] they don't allow tunneling though :/ [22:58] binarymutant: gotta run ... [22:58] binarymutant: who doesn't allow tunneling? [22:59] binarymutant: openvnc ... tunnel through there [22:59] binarymutant: let me know if you get znc setup on your cloud deployment ;) [22:59] pace_t_zulu: will do, thanks for the advice [23:17] [gripe] devs not supporting their products well (luakit)