[00:09] errrrr [00:09] * ia32-libs-multiarch also recommends libgl1-mesa-glx (LP: #821100) [00:10] not installable on amd64? [00:10] OH libgl1-mesa-glx is but libgl1-mesa-dri isn't, my bad [00:12] cnd: oh did it?! so doing the 11.04 to 11.10 compiz profile transition worked, but doing it via a lightdm boot wouldn't do the transition properly? [00:12] Sarvatt: I don't really understand what all you're meaning [00:12] I don't know much about how unity is supposed to work, especially at upgrade [00:12] when you did compiz --replace it did the profile transition instead of bailing with the EXT_tfp not available error [00:13] that log of compiz --replace you posted earlier said it was doing a profile transition [00:13] one complication: when I upgraded, intel kernel module thought it would be an awesome time to lose the framebuffer [00:13] so halfway through my upgrade, I lost my graphics output [00:13] and I of course used upgrade-manager [00:14] so I had to kill it, run dpkg --configure -a [00:14] then reboot [00:14] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/699239/ that was your first compiz run after the upgrade, starting unity/compiz via lightdm bailed before it could do the transition and it worked after the transition is what i get from what you're saying [00:14] so I don't know if I missed anything in there [00:14] Sarvatt: that sounds right [00:14] oh [00:15] guess some 11.04->11.10 upgrade tests are in order [00:16] transition being this from the log: Checking if settings need to be migrated ...yes [00:16] Compiz Migration Script for Ubuntu 11.04 [00:16] Moving settings from Compiz 0.8.6 to Compiz 0.9.4 [00:16] Sarvatt: That transition looks to be because cnd was running unity in a VT, which doesn't have access to the dbus session bus, and hence uses a different config backend. [00:19] here's hoping it was all because of the busted update-manager -d and manua dpkg --configure -a after.. [00:21] my laptop keeps suspending randomly... [00:21] the one I just updated [00:21] anyone been having issues with that? [00:21] RAOF: jbicha's cr48 isn't much different than cnd's system [00:21] cnd: yeah [00:21] digging up the bug [00:21] gnome-control-center bug [00:22] Sarvatt: Right; both use the Intel IGD thingy. [00:22] 945gm [00:22] well for cnd, pineview for cr48 i guess [00:23] mine's a gma 3150 [00:23] whatever that means :) [00:23] oh both pineview then [00:24] thought you were on a mini9 sorry [00:24] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/860227 [00:24] Launchpad bug 860227 in gdm (Ubuntu) "greeter session puts the host to sleep after 30 minutes idle (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,New] [00:24] that isnt the bug i'm thinking of though [00:24] still digging [00:26] that could be the bug though [00:27] cnd: https://launchpad.net/bugs/860485 [00:27] Launchpad bug 860485 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 2 other projects) "bad default setting: suspend after 30min when plugged in (affects: 22) (dups: 1) (heat: 116)" [High,Triaged] [00:27] oh, it's a setting... [00:27] I should have checked... [00:28] hmmm… it's set to 30 min on battery, never when plugged in [00:28] I don't think it knows I'm plugged in though [00:28] the power indicator says "Battery (charged)" [00:34] cnd: did you say to test with geistest and not gesturetest? [00:34] bdmurray, I would normally point people to use geistest [00:35] gesturetest will actually go away in 12.04 [00:35] and what would I expect to see from geistest? [00:35] gesture events? [00:35] up to two touches when in unity (cause 3 and 4 touch gestures are grabbed by unity) [00:36] okay must not be working, thanks (gotta run) [00:36] ok [00:36] bdmurray, if geistest crashes, it is due to a bug we haven't had time to fix yet [00:36] listen only on the root window instead [00:36] geistest -w [00:37] which you can get from xwininfo -root [02:26] ok we have no 32 bit accelerated GL without proprietary drivers now [02:26] on amd64 [02:26] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/oneiric-changes/2011-September/010633.html [02:28] want to use wine? sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates [02:28] pretty crappy user experience :( [02:30] is multiarch libpciaccess really that risky? [02:30] Mesa's still in ia32-libs, though, right? [02:31] no DRI libs at least [02:32] actually that should have removed the /usr/lib32/libGL.so.1 too since thats what the bug its fixing called for [02:41] i'll file a sync request tomorrow when its not 5 gin and tonics into the night and see where it goes :) [02:54] * Sarvatt started tonight and realized a bug saying it'd be retarded not to do it isn't exactly convincing past final freeze [02:58] i thought the point of multiarch was to get rid of ia32-libs, not to keep using it [03:01] it is, except libdrm-intel1 grew a libpciaccess0 dependency in 2.4.26 so libgl1-mesa-dri wasn't installable after that, and multiarch libpciaccess just got into debian a few days ago, and was forgotten about until recently because the people that cared had it install already :P [03:03] why did libdrm-intel1 need libpciaccess0 all of a sudden? [03:03] http://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/drm/commit/?id=9d77603d8b95aee4f2408e437c55af15ee05b608 [03:03] do ati and nvidia not need it too? [03:04] is it used in x-x-v-intel 2.5.16 in oneiric? nope [03:05] 2.16 whoops [03:05] revert? [03:07] sometimes it seems like intel just does whatever it wants and doesn't care about anybody else's schedule [03:13] its nicer than no release schedule at all though, at least you know mesa/xserver will be released when intel has quarterly performance reviews to complete now :) [03:14] when is the next mesa/xserver release? go to intellinuxgraphics.com and look at when their quarter ends === yofel_ is now known as yofel === ara is now known as Guest50889 === pzanoni_ is now known as pzanoni === yofel_ is now known as yofel