[03:55] <nlsthzn> o/
[05:24] <Kilos> morning superfly have a good day
[05:24] <superfly> hi Kilos :-)
[05:24] <Kilos> morning all as well
[05:27] <nlsthzn> Alo Kilos , superfly ... forgot it is only Sunday here today... most of the world will still be business as usual
[05:27] <superfly> neya nlsthzn
[05:27] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[06:12] <Kilos> lo |3o|3 
[06:13] <|3o|3> morning Kilos
[06:28] <magespawn> morning all
[06:28] <Kilos> hiya magespawn 
[06:28] <magespawn> have you heard anything about tux labs?
[06:28] <Kilos> nope
[06:32] <superfly> magespawn: they died out years ago
[07:04] <magespawn> i read some stuff that was dates last year
[07:06] <magespawn> superfly do you know why?
[07:24] <buyd> hey
[07:57] <superfly> magespawn: It wasn't sustainable
[07:57] <superfly> people got tired of doing work for free
[07:58] <superfly> and the Shuttleworth Foundation didn't want to continue to fund all of it
[08:37] <magespawn> hey all 
[08:40] <magespawn> Maaz welcome back
[08:41] <Maaz> magespawn: Sorry...
[09:13] <Merdam> kaffirs
[09:13] <Merdam> I fucking hate them
[09:19] <nlsthzn> thanks
[09:19] <superfly> Thanks drubin
[09:19] <drubin> i wasn't authed so took a while
[09:19] <drubin> Maaz: ops
[09:19] <Maaz> #ubuntu-za ops are morgs, highvoltage, drubin, cocooncrash, maiatoday and tumbleweed
[09:20] <drubin> ^^ FYI
[09:21] <nlsthzn> ah cool :)\
[09:21] <nlsthzn> should give Maaz ops too
[09:24] <drubin> no need for him to have ops
[09:26] <nlsthzn> :)
[09:43] <magespawn> okay that was all very random
[10:18] <Kilos> aw where is maaz
[10:18] <Kilos> Maaz, hi
[10:18] <Maaz> Sup Kilos
[10:19] <Kilos> oh up there
[10:19] <Kilos> he the boss now
[13:27] <inetpro> good mornings
[13:28] <Kilos> hiya inetpro 
[13:28] <nlsthzn> inetpro: top of the morning to you
[13:29] <inetpro> hmm... what happened with time?
[13:30] <Kilos> lol
[13:33]  * inetpro is happy to see Telkom announcing better deals but IMHO it just aint good enough 
[13:33] <inetpro> *yet
[13:33] <Kilos> no one will rush at improving prices
[13:33] <Kilos> milk the cow while you can
[13:46] <inetpro> Kilos: they better start waking up
[13:46] <inetpro> other countries are fast catching up and passing us
[13:46] <inetpro> african countries*
[13:47] <tumbleweed> B
[13:47] <tumbleweed> err, excuse that
[13:47] <nlsthzn> lol
[13:48] <Kilos> the thing is here there is too much manopolising and they actually scheme prices and things out together
[13:49] <Kilos> like all the scandal about bread prices etc
[13:51] <Kilos> Maaz, define ops
[13:51] <Maaz> Kilos: Magna Mater \Magna Mater\ prop. n. A great nature goddess of ancient Phrygia in Asia Minor; the counterpart of the Greek {Rhea} and the Roman {Ops}.  Syn: Cybele, Dindymene, Great Mother, Mater Turrita. [WordNet 1.5], Ops n 1: (Roman mythology) goddess of abundance and fertility; wife of Saturn; counterpart of Greek Rhea and Cybele of ancient Asia Minor, OPS Operations Per Second (CPU) , OPS Oracle Parallel Server (Oracle) , OPS Outb
[13:53] <nlsthzn> Kilos: ?
[13:53] <Kilos> lol mistake its voice i think he has nlsthzn 
[13:54] <nlsthzn> Yes, Maaz has voice :)
[13:54] <Kilos> but sure he dunno what to do with it
[13:54] <Kilos> Maaz, stick to making coffee
[13:54] <Maaz> Kilos: Excuse me?
[13:54] <Kilos> stupid bot
[13:54] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[13:54] <nlsthzn> Maaz: tea please
[13:54]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[13:54] <Maaz> Everybody here drinks coffee or goes thirsty
[13:55] <Kilos> one day i will get me an ibid and see if i can teach it to make tea as well
[13:55] <Kilos> especially for you nlsthzn 
[13:56] <nlsthzn> thanks uncle Kilos ... but with sweetner and no sugar if you don't mind ;)
[13:57] <Kilos> methinks bots dont do the sugar or sweeteners
[13:57] <Kilos> we have to do it ourselves
[13:57] <Kilos> Maaz, with sugar
[13:57] <Maaz> Help yourself outa the sugar pot
[13:58] <Kilos> hehe
[13:58] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[13:58] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[13:58] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[13:58] <Kilos> superfly, i hope you are winning
[14:01] <inetpro> eish I missed it, now I'll have to make my own
[14:02] <Kilos> skuus man
[14:03] <inetpro> Kilos: at least mine is not just virtual
[14:03] <Kilos> lol. virtual is fine next to my beermug of tea
[14:06] <inetpro> Kilos: what tea you drinking?
[14:06] <Kilos> methinks red label
[14:06] <Kilos> not brantea
[14:07]  * nlsthzn has an idea
[14:07] <nlsthzn> Kilos: tea please
[14:08] <Kilos> hehe
[14:08]  * Kilos puts the kettle on
[14:08] <nlsthzn> Sweet :D
[14:09] <Kilos> just brewing some. my virtual kettle boils quick
[14:09] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[14:11] <Kilos> Tea is ready for nlsthzn . Sweeteners on the top shelf
[14:12] <Squirm> hello
[14:12] <nlsthzn> Thanks uncle Kilos ... I think they should remove voice from Maaz and give it to you
[14:12] <Kilos> hehe 
[14:12] <Kilos> no thanks
[14:13] <Kilos> too many naughty peeps visit here
[14:16] <inetpro> Kilos: red label, 5 roses?
[14:16]  * inetpro kicks off a do-release-upgrade on Karmic Koala 
[14:17] <Kilos> sorry it was red packet not red label
[14:17] <Kilos> Glen tea
[14:17] <Kilos> i just drink the stuff. dont worry what kind
[14:18] <Kilos> any tea is much better than no tea
[14:19] <nlsthzn> cheers for eers
[14:23] <inetpro> Kilos: ahh, you don't drink coffee?
[14:24] <Kilos> sometimes. i love coffee but it aggravates the stupid head
[14:26] <inetpro> hmm... do-release-upgrade needs to have http_proxy set in the env
[14:28]  * inetpro enjoys the cool breeze coming into the office
[14:28] <inetpro> yikes, looks like I will be wet on the way home again
[14:32]  * superfly is home
[14:33] <Kilos> yay superfly did you have a good winning day
[14:33] <Kilos> looks like a big storm coming inetpro 
[14:34] <Kilos> dont put put around the office too long
[14:34] <superfly> Kilos: meh. It was OK
[14:34] <Kilos> i hope the wind doesnt blow you off the baie sukkel
[14:34] <inetpro> Kilos: is it not one of those that comes and goes quickly?
[14:34] <superfly> I'm glad to be home, but I have work to do this weekend.
[14:35] <Kilos> dunno inetpro kinda blowing hard here
[14:35]  * Kilos goes to smell the air
[14:38] <Kilos> smells a bit damp but nose not as good as it used to be
[14:43] <inetpro> looks more like dust to me
[14:43] <inetpro> they say the big storm is coming on Sunday
[14:59] <inetpro> poor noddy going down for a reboot
[15:04] <Kilos> lol
[15:08]  * inetpro greets a fresh looking noddy 
[15:19] <inetpro> yikes
[15:20] <Kilos> what
[15:20] <inetpro> I thought I'll install exim4 from the repositories
[15:20] <inetpro> hate the way they have split all the configs into different folders
[15:21]  * inetpro is used to having a single config with everything in one file
[15:22] <inetpro> so much easier to maintain IMHO
[15:23] <inetpro> then again I might learn something new with the new way of doing things
[15:24]  * inetpro looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Exim4
[15:24] <Kilos> hehe
[15:27] <inetpro> Kilos: I've had this other internal exim mail gateway running for many years without a problem
[15:28] <Kilos> i saw you said you having probs
[15:28] <Kilos> have you sorted it
[15:28] <Kilos> doesnt it like new stuff
[15:28] <inetpro> Kilos: I realised that it might be a good idea to upgrade it
[15:28] <Kilos> lol
[15:28] <Kilos> old saying
[15:28] <inetpro> been running all these years with just 250MB RAM
[15:28] <Kilos> if it isnt broke dont fix it
[15:29] <Kilos> leave well enough alone
[15:30] <inetpro> couldn't believe my eyes when I actually went to look how much RAM it has
[15:30] <Kilos> how much?
[15:31] <inetpro> Kilos: 250MB
[15:31] <Kilos> ok 256
[15:31] <inetpro> yep that's about it
[15:31] <Kilos> is it just a mail server goodie
[15:31] <inetpro> just a gateway
[15:31] <Kilos> no graphics etc
[15:32] <Kilos> i dont unnerstand what a gateway is actually
[15:33] <Kilos> same as a sever or a home pc. what does it actually do
[15:37] <Kilos> looks like the clouds blew away inetpro 
[15:38] <Kilos> your lucky day
[16:06] <superfly> Kilos: a gateway is a computer that sits between 2 networks and exchanges data between the two
[16:06] <Kilos> with only 256m ram?
[16:06] <Kilos> isnt it slow
[16:09] <superfly> Kilos: nope
[16:09] <Kilos> hmm
[16:09] <inetpro> heh Kilos it's not slow at all
[16:09] <inetpro> but I'll chat later
[16:09] <Kilos> because its data only moving?
[16:10] <superfly> ja
[16:14] <Kilos> correct me if im wrong. the other pcs see it almost as a storage drive?
[16:41] <superfly> no
[16:51] <Kilos> as a website?
[17:00] <superfly> Kilos: ideally, the other PCs should not even know it's there
[17:00] <Kilos> oh my
[17:01] <Kilos> thats too clever for me
[17:44] <nlsthzn> Night all
[18:27] <Kilos> night all. see ya morrow. sleep tight
[19:28] <inetpro> good evening
[19:28] <Chat6252> hi