| yofel | not from me :D | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| * ryanakca should probably send an email to the ML and give everybody until Monday to object. | 00:09 | |
| DarkwingDuck | ryanakca: Is that the one you showed me the other day? | 00:11 |
| ryanakca | DarkwingDuck: Yes, test it out on wiki.kubuntu.org, go to Preferences, and select kubuntu-light from the drop down | 00:11 |
| ryanakca | See https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Home?action=userprefs&sub=prefs | 00:12 |
| DarkwingDuck | ryanakca: go ahead and make it default. | 00:20 |
| ScottK | OK. Done. Now to go beg someone else on the release team to accept it. | 00:21 |
| DarkwingDuck | I'll have one last package to upload as soon as I'm done with it. | 00:22 |
| ScottK | yofel: kile accepted. | 00:22 |
| ScottK | ryanakca: What would you think of switching the default on release day? | 00:23 |
| * yofel hugs ScottK | 00:23 | |
| DarkwingDuck | Ohhh I like that. | 00:23 |
| * DarkwingDuck goes back to implimenting translations | 00:24 | |
| CIA-130 | [qapt] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20111001003327-nbb9s2kvfjbzf4c0 * debian/ (changelog libqapt1.install libqapt1.symbols) (log message trimmed) | 00:33 |
| CIA-130 | * Add changes not present in the previous upload due to me not re-source- | 00:33 |
| CIA-130 | building after making them... Fixes FTBFS. * New upstream bugfix release: (LP: | 00:33 |
| JontheEchidna | (just pushing what's in the archive to bzr) | 00:34 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: I ran into a guy in Debian today who's interested in Muon. You might get mail if you didn't already. | 00:35 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: yup, we're having a nice email discussion | 00:35 |
| ScottK | Excellent. | 00:36 |
| keffie_jayx | mommy mommy when I grow up I wanna be just like ScottK | 00:38 |
| * keffie_jayx runs | 00:38 | |
| keffie_jayx | you rock dude | 00:38 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 00:40 |
| ScottK | But trust me, you don't ... | 00:40 |
| * claydoh catches up | 00:42 | |
| claydoh | keffie_jayx: I am not sure the exact fix for your earlier kmail issue yet, there are probably extra resources (accounts) in there, can't remember if yiu just have to re-edit them or delete and begin from scratch | 00:44 |
| claydoh | ScottK: I am blind, but i can | 00:44 |
| keffie_jayx | claydoh: I actually did not have an account with email there | 00:44 |
| claydoh | t seem to find kde 4.6.4 for natty in a ppa | 00:44 |
| keffie_jayx | I tried setting up an email account but left some uncofigured stuff like smtp | 00:44 |
| ScottK | 4.6.5 is in natty-proposed for testing. | 00:45 |
| claydoh | could be a calendar or contacts resource | 00:45 |
| ScottK | Gone from the PPA. | 00:45 |
| keffie_jayx | claydoh: I am starting from scratch | 00:45 |
| claydoh | ScottK: ahh just had,'t looked there, did look in backports | 00:45 |
| ScottK | Be careful, there's other stuff in -proposed too. | 00:46 |
| claydoh | keffie_jayx: I am thinking this should be the recommendation | 00:46 |
| keffie_jayx | claydoh: I ma trying that | 00:46 |
| claydoh | ScottK: no prob, this is a VM anyway, all my boxen are either oneiric or kde 4,7 | 00:46 |
| ScottK | OK. | 00:46 |
| keffie_jayx | claydoh: I am lucky not to have any actual email info there, I am just testing upgrade paths | 00:47 |
| claydoh | keffie_jayx: there are some ui bugs, but nothing that breaks anything | 00:47 |
| claydoh | too much | 00:47 |
| ScottK | claydoh: If kde 4.6.5 works for you, please comment in Bug #859562 | 00:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 859562 in kde4libs (Ubuntu) "SRU tracking bug for KDE 4.6.5" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/859562 | 00:47 |
| claydoh | ScottK: kk | 00:47 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 00:47 |
| claydoh | as a side note, apachelogger, kubuntu-low-fat-settings works in natty well enough, it allows me to run this vm on my laptop | 00:48 |
| keffie_jayx | claydoh: I have updated and my issue was not resolved | 01:14 |
| keffie_jayx | it seems to be akonadi not knowing the kmail folders | 01:14 |
| claydoh | have you remove/recreated the resources? | 01:14 |
| keffie_jayx | nope will do so now | 01:15 |
| claydoh | I didn't document what I did, so I am recreating my account setups | 01:15 |
| claydoh | I remember at some point I either deleted my kmail2rc file, or all the akonadir configs | 01:16 |
| claydoh | in an upgrade the original kmailrc is kept when creating the kmail2rc | 01:16 |
| keffie_jayx | claydoh: tried running Akonadi Resources Configuratuion and all is blank | 01:17 |
| keffie_jayx | try adding modules but all is blank | 01:17 |
| DarkwingDuck | please let this work... | 01:18 |
| ryanakca | ScottK: We can ask the sysadmins if they'd consider it, but they're typically swamped with everything else on release day. I'll send an email and see what they say. | 01:18 |
| claydoh | yeah, in ~/.config/akonadi/ there are individual akonadi-resource configs, maybe try stopping akonadi , moving them and see if that allows you add some after restarting it? | 01:20 |
| claydoh | the configs are similar to this: agent_config_akonadi_ical_resource_2 | 01:21 |
| claydoh | I wonder if th kmail2rc's resource list doesn't match up to the configs in ~/.config/akonadi :( | 01:22 |
| ScottK | OK. Just a thought. | 01:24 |
| ScottK | New pim* snapshots accepted. | 01:27 |
| keffie_jayx | claydoh: deleting akonadi config fixes the issue | 01:28 |
| claydoh | then you loose all your settings :( | 01:29 |
| claydoh | I will be doing an upgrade soon to see what I get this time around :/ | 01:29 |
| keffie_jayx | didn't have much | 01:29 |
| ScottK | It may be the least bad alternative. | 01:29 |
| keffie_jayx | I made a copy of the config though | 01:30 |
| keffie_jayx | if you need me to test | 01:30 |
| claydoh | I will : 1 pop, 2 imaps, a small contact list, my google contacts, and a calendar | 01:30 |
| claydoh | I left out 2 imap accounts that are mostly spam traps nowdays, and as the spam filters don't move the spam, it it useless | 01:33 |
| DarkwingDuck | jjesse: I'll get the translations this time around... I'll have a good todo for next time. It's trial and error as I fix/build the scripts | 01:57 |
| jjesse | yay good luck | 01:57 |
| DarkwingDuck | jjesse: :D | 01:57 |
| DarkwingDuck | It's very... all over the place. | 01:57 |
| jjesse | usually | 01:58 |
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| ScottK | claydoh: Another one for your list: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=283142 | 16:00 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 283142 in general "Akonadi control module crash just after restarting" [Crash,Unconfirmed] | 16:00 |
| apachelogger | good morning | 16:45 |
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| apachelogger | ScottK: is it to late to drop kubuntu_63_ksplash_fix.diff from workspace? | 17:28 |
| apachelogger | this patch makes me go whoop whoopp whooooooooooop | 17:28 |
| ScottK | How so? | 17:29 |
| apachelogger | it is not upstream | 17:29 |
| apachelogger | and the reason it is not upstream is that it makes assumption about the ximage format | 17:29 |
| ScottK | And what impact does that have? | 17:29 |
| apachelogger | and since the person who made the patch decided to abandon us there is no one who keeps that patch working | 17:29 |
| * ScottK looks at it. | 17:29 | |
| apachelogger | ScottK: I have suspection it causes some ksplash crashes | 17:29 |
| apachelogger | seen random ksplash crashes in x resource allocation at various places in launchpad | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/796816 | 17:30 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 796816 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "ksplashx crashed with SIGABRT in raise()" [Medium,New] | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | for example | 17:30 |
| ScottK | OK. | 17:31 |
| ScottK | So it's causing crashes. | 17:31 |
| apachelogger | doing stuff in X is *extremly* dangerous if one does not do it right | 17:31 |
| apachelogger | loads of parts of X are not threadsafe and assume a certian initialization order of memory and whatnot | 17:31 |
| apachelogger | really terrible thing | 17:31 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: that it causes that crash is an educated assumption | 17:32 |
| apachelogger | I did not actually track the stack trace in the source | 17:32 |
| apachelogger | then again knowin X there is no direct relationship between our patch and the crash (codewise that is) | 17:32 |
| ScottK | What happens if we drop the patch (what do we lose)? | 17:32 |
| apachelogger | no idea | 17:33 |
| apachelogger | https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kde-workspace/repository/revisions/422306cb8b131d8425b69d4e249e5b540b0207f0 | 17:33 |
| apachelogger | "Do not clip blurry icons" | 17:33 |
| apachelogger | I have no idea what that even means | 17:33 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: since it aint an issue upstream I frankly do not see why it should be a problem for us | 17:33 |
| ScottK | Found it. | 17:36 |
| ScottK | * Added patch to fix ksplash blurry icon clipping | 17:36 |
| ScottK | kdebase-workspace (4:4.2.0-0ubuntu7) jaunty; urgency=low | 17:36 |
| apachelogger | yeah, but what does it do | 17:37 |
| shadeslayer | i think i know what that does | 17:37 |
| shadeslayer | in ksplash you have those icons which are loaded one after the other | 17:37 |
| apachelogger | right | 17:37 |
| shadeslayer | i remember that the KDE icon at the end was clipped for me | 17:37 |
| shadeslayer | in one of the releases | 17:37 |
| shadeslayer | like, last couple of pixels | 17:38 |
| apachelogger | needs fix upstream | 17:38 |
| * apachelogger rather has ksplash not crash than miss a couple of pixels | 17:38 | |
| apachelogger | on a related note ... we could simply use a plymouth aligned ksplash theme ^^ | 17:38 |
| shadeslayer | i'd rather not have ksplash at all | 17:38 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: I agree (re !crash > misaligned pixels) | 17:39 |
| yofel | I would rather like to know why the kdm background resolution and the ksplash background res are different | 17:39 |
| apachelogger | found 3 dups of bug 665510 | 17:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 665510 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "ksplashx assert failure: *** glibc detected *** ksplashx: double free or corruption (out): 0x0918cdf8 ***" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/665510 | 17:39 |
| yofel | or rather the scaling | 17:39 |
| apachelogger | yofel: different scaling algorithms | 17:39 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: OK. I'd say let's drop it. | 17:39 |
| apachelogger | FWIW ... we'd not have the problem if we were not using stupid CDs and could ship actual high quality artwork in multiple resolutions | 17:40 |
| yofel | apachelogger: yeah, but makes it look utterly unprofessional | 17:40 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: i think that works just fine in KDE master | 17:40 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: great... | 17:40 |
| apachelogger | see what I wrote :P | 17:40 |
| shadeslayer | i.e. when i use Neon, i've just noticed that when i log into Stable KDE | 17:40 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: and as apachelogger said, we ship all resolutions... | 17:41 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Can you make it so the Akonadi configuration KCM shows up somewhere (e.g. systemsettings)? | 17:41 |
| apachelogger | yofel: we do not | 17:41 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: *we should ship all resolutions ... | 17:41 |
| apachelogger | bug 522101 is fixed? | 17:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 522101 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "ksplash missing 1280x800 Ethais Background Link" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/522101 | 17:41 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: I think we patch it away | 17:41 |
| ScottK | Having easy access to the Akonadi restart button turns out to be important. | 17:41 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Yes. We do. We need to not do that. | 17:41 |
| apachelogger | akonaditray > kcm? | 17:42 |
| yofel | apachelogger: I meant in neon | 17:42 |
| apachelogger | yofel: ah, kk | 17:42 |
| apachelogger | yofel: kdm still will use a scaled version though | 17:42 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: well, fine by me, but I really think the tray app is more of a UXable workaround | 17:43 |
| apachelogger | it is systemsettings not systemmanagement, so I for one would not look there for an option to restart anything | 17:43 |
| ScottK | DarkwingDuck: Would adding a new systray icon affect your screen shots? | 17:43 |
| ScottK | Good point. | 17:43 |
| apachelogger | the tray icon is not visible by default I think | 17:44 |
| shadeslayer | no it isn't | 17:44 |
| shadeslayer | you need to start it manually | 17:44 |
| shadeslayer | which is weird imho | 17:44 |
| apachelogger | only if akonadi exploded (which it of course cannot detect reliably) or when it is off I think | 17:44 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: yeah, like akonadi is not fat enough | 17:45 |
| apachelogger | we also need a tray app | 17:45 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 17:45 |
| apachelogger | The process akonaditray (with pid 26522) is using approximately 5.2 MB of memory. | 17:45 |
| apachelogger | It is using 4.8 MB privately, and a further 11.6 MB that is, or could be, shared with other programs. | 17:45 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i'd rather have it sitting passively in the systray when akonadi has been started | 17:45 |
| shadeslayer | clearly it should ported to KSNI | 17:45 |
| apachelogger | I'd rather have akonadi not die a horrible death to begin with | 17:45 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: it aint ksni? | 17:46 |
| apachelogger | 2844 KB[heap] | 17:46 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: last time i checked, it was sitting in my systray actively | 17:46 |
| shadeslayer | was not hidden etc | 17:46 |
| apachelogger | how do you make a tray app have 3 mib of heap | 17:46 |
| ScottK | The thing I most often need it for is after resume kmail and akonadi can't talk anymore. | 17:46 |
| * shadeslayer checks again | 17:46 | |
| ScottK | apachelogger: In which package do we patch it away? | 17:47 |
| shadeslayer | neat, they ported it to KSNI ( from what i can tell in master ) | 17:47 |
| apachelogger | kdepim-runtime? | 17:47 |
| apachelogger | not-installed: ./usr/share/applications/kde4/akonaditray.desktop | 17:48 |
| apachelogger | \o/ | 17:48 |
| apachelogger | debfx made that | 17:48 |
| apachelogger | of course the changelog does not say why | 17:48 |
| apachelogger | \o/ | 17:48 |
| apachelogger | what we need is a changelog writing training | 17:48 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: If you can upload that change then I can approve it (and workspace) | 17:49 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: so.... I'd make the workaround: start akonaditray -> stop server -> start server... with additional recommendation to add akonaditray to autostart | 17:49 |
| ScottK | Adding akonaditray to autostart we ought to just do. | 17:50 |
| apachelogger | well | 17:50 |
| apachelogger | it is fat | 17:50 |
| yofel | then disable it in low-fat if possible | 17:50 |
| apachelogger | and given that we cannot postponed autostart items to >60 minutes after login that will directly influence overall time to desktop | 17:50 |
| apachelogger | yofel: having low-fat settings does not justify making the regular setup insanely slow | 17:51 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: autostart it after 15 minutes or sth? | 17:51 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: yeah, how do you do that? | 17:51 |
| * shadeslayer checks | 17:51 | |
| shadeslayer | well | 17:51 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: sleep 15; akonaditray | 17:51 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 17:51 |
| apachelogger | at any rate... a thing that is using approx 5 MiB of private memory to do *nothing* really should not be active by default IMHO | 17:51 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I hope you are nto serious | 17:52 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Pretty much anyone that uses Kontact/Kmail (which is our default) is screwed without this. | 17:52 |
| apachelogger | like really | 17:52 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ofcourse not :P | 17:52 |
| ScottK | Agreed, but pim is screwed otherwise. | 17:52 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: There's also some additional bug fixes in pim-runtime trunk, so if you could update it to a new snapshot at the same time, that'd be cool. | 17:52 |
| apachelogger | it is screwed eitherway from what I have heared | 17:52 |
| apachelogger | oh, so much to do | 17:53 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: plz make a snapshot | 17:53 |
| shadeslayer | sure | 17:53 |
| ScottK | Yes, so let's do what we can to provide some lubrication ... | 17:53 |
| * apachelogger checks why that thing is so fat | 17:53 | |
| debfx | I'd say we install the desktop file again and add a hint to the release notes | 17:54 |
| apachelogger | well | 17:55 |
| apachelogger | wouldn't it be better to simply restart akonadiserver after whatever causes it to break? | 17:55 |
| debfx | that says "don't use kde pim for now. if you do anyway akonaditray might help if it fails." | 17:55 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: what is the actual cause? | 17:55 |
| apachelogger | system suspend or network loss or what? | 17:55 |
| ScottK | It's running, it just can't talk to kmail. | 17:56 |
| apachelogger | completely random? | 17:57 |
| ScottK | Sometimes. | 17:58 |
| ScottK | Usually after a resume. | 17:58 |
| apachelogger | AgentManager \o/ | 17:58 |
| ScottK | Then you have to be careful of KDE Bug 283142 | 17:58 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 283142 in general "Akonadi control module crash just after restarting" [Crash,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=283142 | 17:58 |
| ScottK | Which REALLY makes sure it's restarted. | 17:59 |
| apachelogger | awesome sofwtare | 17:59 |
| ScottK | Yeah, so that's another reason the systray thing is better. | 17:59 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: the tray app is so fat becauses it uses akonadi | 17:59 |
| apachelogger | apparently there is no such thing as lighweight akonadiware | 18:00 |
| shadeslayer | @_@ | 18:00 |
| apachelogger | luvly | 18:00 |
| shadeslayer | it's PIM, what do you expect | 18:00 |
| ScottK | They are pushing a fair number of fixes into the 4.7 branch. | 18:01 |
| apachelogger | less than 5 MiB quite honestly | 18:01 |
| ScottK | It's down do r | 18:01 |
| apachelogger | I mean, look at the dock.cpp ctor | 18:01 |
| ScottK | It's down to "really annoying" from "dear God, I can't use this" this week. | 18:01 |
| apachelogger | it does *nothing* heavy at all | 18:01 |
| apachelogger | except for one thing | 18:01 |
| apachelogger | get an akonadi agentmanager | 18:01 |
| apachelogger | so naturally the assumption is that the enormous heap comes from akonadi | 18:02 |
| ScottK | Please just get something uploaded and then help them make it less fat for 4.8. | 18:02 |
| apachelogger | waiting for shadeslayer | 18:03 |
| ScottK | It does look like something lowfat would want to remove. | 18:03 |
| shadeslayer | yeah, cloning tree | 18:03 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: just put a second line in the install file to put the desktop file into /usr/share/autostart/ | 18:03 |
| apachelogger | that will take care of that | 18:03 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 18:03 |
| debfx | oh please don't add more stuff into autostart ... | 18:04 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: pimlibs needs an updated snapshot too to fix the same bug that's fixed in -runtime. | 18:04 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Can haz pimlibs snapshot too plz? | 18:04 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: ^ | 18:05 |
| shadeslayer | sure | 18:05 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 18:05 |
| ScottK | Nothing interesting for akonadi/pim since my last snapshot | 18:05 |
| shadeslayer | give me 30 minutes, i'll have both of them | 18:05 |
| apachelogger | http://i.imgur.com/Nizd0.png | 18:05 |
| debfx | don't punish people that use sane pim software | 18:05 |
| shadeslayer | haha :D | 18:05 |
| ScottK | debfx: What would that be? | 18:05 |
| debfx | thunderbird for example | 18:06 |
| ScottK | Not so as I've noticed. | 18:06 |
| ScottK | Does it support maildir yet? | 18:06 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: kconfig stuff makes the better part of the heap | 18:07 |
| ScottK | I switched from Thunderbird to Kmail in 2004 in large part because I had way to much mail to make mbox storage practical. | 18:07 |
| apachelogger | we could make autostart conditional to presence of either akonadiserverrc or kontactrc | 18:11 |
| apachelogger | or both | 18:11 |
| ScottK | or kmailrc | 18:12 |
| stanley_robertso | hi all | 18:19 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: what do you use to create the tarball of the git snapshot? ( i use a very screwed up method that involves repacking the tarball manually ) | 18:19 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: So do I. | 18:19 |
| shadeslayer | fooey | 18:19 |
| ScottK | export GZIP='-9' | 18:19 |
| ScottK | rm -rf [package]/.git | 18:20 |
| debfx | git archive? | 18:20 |
| shadeslayer | ^^ | 18:20 |
| ScottK | And on from there. | 18:20 |
| ScottK | I'm sure debfx has a much sleeker way to do it. | 18:20 |
| ScottK | He's much more git'ified than I am. | 18:20 |
| ScottK | BBIAB. | 18:20 |
| shadeslayer | here's what I think is the best method : git archive origin/KDE/4.7 --prefix=foo-4.7.1+git111001 | bzip2 >foo_4.7.1+git111001.orig.tar.bz2 | 18:21 |
| yofel | as debfx says, git archive sends a tar to stdout, just run 'git archive | xz -9 > file' | 18:22 |
| debfx | ScottK: I don't think thunderbird supports anything except mbox | 18:22 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: you don't get a prefix with that | 18:22 |
| shadeslayer | which is why i have to repack it myanuall | 18:22 |
| shadeslayer | *manually | 18:22 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: well, just rename the file... | 18:22 |
| ScottK | debfx: That's a show stopper for me. | 18:22 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 18:22 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: ah, the folder prefix | 18:23 |
| yofel | true | 18:23 |
| debfx | you must have an insane amount of mails ;) | 18:23 |
| shadeslayer | yup | 18:23 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: i think --prefix does the trick | 18:23 |
| * yofel gets a few hundred mails a day and uses thunderbird... | 18:23 | |
| yofel | scales much saner than kmail | 18:23 |
| yofel | well ok, kmail would probably be better if I would use it every day | 18:24 |
| shadeslayer | yup, works | 18:24 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: we need a junk command collection wiki page | 18:24 |
| shadeslayer | heh, true | 18:24 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: so do i just move ./usr/share/applications/kde4/akonaditray.desktop to autostart? or should i leave that out for now? | 18:26 |
| apachelogger | not move | 18:26 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 18:26 |
| apachelogger | just two lines in the install file | 18:26 |
| apachelogger | usr/share/applications/kde4/akonaditray.desktop | 18:27 |
| apachelogger | usr/share/applications/kde4/akonaditray.desktop usr/share/autostart/ | 18:27 |
| apachelogger | or something | 18:27 |
| * apachelogger cannot remember the format | 18:27 | |
| apachelogger | manpage will no | 18:27 |
| shadeslayer | right, thats what i was trying to convey | 18:28 |
| * apachelogger points out that dh_install copies :) | 18:28 | |
| apachelogger | afiestas: you are coming to UDS, no? | 18:37 |
| afiestas | apachelogger: yes I'm | 18:37 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Specs/UDS-P add yourself to the wiki then :P | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | and stuff you wanna talk about | 18:38 |
| afiestas | I sent an email to kubuntu'devel about that | 18:38 |
| afiestas | didn't arrive ? | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | more likely I didn't read it ^^ | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: anywho, please add stuff there | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | the ideas are just a list of possible topics | 18:39 |
| afiestas | oki, I'm in the middle of the solid sprint, can you remember me it tusday? | 18:40 |
| apachelogger | if you remind me to remind you :) | 18:40 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 18:41 |
| shadeslayer | too bad i'll have to miss the Blogging workshop :( | 18:41 |
| afiestas | apachelogger: deal xD | 18:41 |
| apachelogger | perfect ^^ | 18:42 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: easy ... find picture of nakkid person... take google's top search word and make it into a title... throw up no more than 250 words ... publish | 18:43 |
| shadeslayer | heh :) | 18:44 |
| CIA-130 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepimlibs] Rohan Garg * 145 * debian/changelog Upstream git snapshot from KDE 4.7 branch as of aef1084c | 19:18 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: workspace going up | 19:21 |
| CIA-130 | [kde-workspace] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20111001192139-ylnnhcx6lkdnh7n0 * debian/ (patches/kubuntu_63_ksplash_fix.diff changelog patches/series) Drop kubuntu_63_ksplash_fix.diff which is unmaintained and causes crashes when freeing the XImage (LP: #665510) | 19:21 |
| shadeslayer | weird,i get : -rwxr-xr-x root/root 3627 2011-10-01 18:43 ./usr/share/autostart/akonaditray.desktop/akonaditray.desktop with usr/share/applications/kde4/akonaditray.desktop usr/share/autostart/akonaditray.desktop ... | 19:22 |
| apachelogger | hm, maybe that was wrong | 19:23 |
| apachelogger | oh well | 19:23 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you could always dh_link or cp manually in the rules | 19:23 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i tried : usr/share/applications/kde4/akonaditray.desktop usr/share/autostart/ as well , and i get usr/share/autostart/kde4/akonaditray.desktop | 19:24 |
| apachelogger | *shrug* | 19:24 |
| apachelogger | I thought that was possible at some point | 19:24 |
| shadeslayer | kdepimlibs snapshot will land in https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental | 19:24 |
| shadeslayer | btw, what should i do with bug 846380 ? close as Won't fix ? | 19:25 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 846380 in kmymoney (Ubuntu) "New version 4.6.0 is available!" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/846380 | 19:26 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: do we have it yet? | 19:26 |
| shadeslayer | nope, see my comment on the bug | 19:27 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: so it will land in pink pony? | 19:27 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 19:27 |
| apachelogger | right, so why would you close it wont fix? | 19:27 |
| apachelogger | it will be fixed... but only once pink pony is open | 19:28 |
| shadeslayer | because it's won't fix for this cycle? | 19:28 |
| apachelogger | the bug is not nominated for this cycle | 19:28 |
| apachelogger | it is a bug that is valid | 19:28 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: see the bug description :P | 19:28 |
| apachelogger | *the bug is valid* | 19:28 |
| shadeslayer | "I was just wondering if this will be packaged for Oneric?" | 19:28 |
| apachelogger | the answer to his question is no | 19:28 |
| apachelogger | and the bug is valid | 19:28 |
| shadeslayer | ok, so, leave a comment that it won't be packaged, and will be uploaded to Ubuntu P ? | 19:29 |
| apachelogger | it aint getting anything else than valid until either upstream development stopped and the entire pile of code becomes unmaintained or we land >=4.6 in the archive | 19:29 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: yeah | 19:29 |
| === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu: Friendly Computing | Final Freeze in effect | Archive Frozen | Kubuntu 11.10 Beta 2 Released! | TODO: http://goo.gl/BD9JL | UDS Ideas: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Specs/UDS-P | ||
| shadeslayer | lrwxrwxrwx root/root 0 2011-10-02 01:08 ./usr/share/autostart/akonaditray.desktop -> ../applications/kde4/akonaditray.desktop | 19:42 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ^ used dh_link | 19:42 |
| apachelogger | hold on | 19:43 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 19:43 |
| apachelogger | isn't that the wrong direction? | 19:43 |
| apachelogger | or am I reading this wrong | 19:43 |
| apachelogger | oh I may indeed | 19:43 |
| shadeslayer | uh | 19:43 |
| apachelogger | nevermind me | 19:43 |
| * apachelogger should go to bed again | 19:43 | |
| shadeslayer | yeah same here :P | 19:43 |
| CIA-130 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepim-runtime] Rohan Garg * 82 * debian/ (4 files) * Update to KDE 4.7 branch head, commit 6eb134bd - Auto start akonaditray by symlinking the desktop file to /usr/share/autostart/ | 19:45 |
| shadeslayer | kdepim-runtime landing in https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental soonish | 19:49 |
| allee | Uh, 600 GB of .xsession-errors in natty, full of Soprano errors. Any known problems with yesterdays kde-runtime 4.7.1? | 19:54 |
| allee | s/600/60/ | 19:56 |
| kubotu | allee meant: "Uh, 60 GB of .xsession-errors in natty, full of Soprano errors. Any known problems with yesterdays kde-runtime 4.7.1?" | 19:56 |
| allee | Looks like strigi problem. Had to stop indexing :( | 19:59 |
| shadeslayer | allee: my brain imploded when you said 600 GB's | 20:01 |
| shadeslayer | 44 MB's here | 20:02 |
| shadeslayer | I'm off to sleep, night | 20:02 |
| apachelogger | you know | 20:02 |
| allee | shadeslayer: you see, big disk make problem only bigger. Not worth to buy one ;) | 20:02 |
| apachelogger | I always thought we should turn off debug stuff in releases | 20:02 |
| apachelogger | surely would make binaries slimmer and stuff | 20:02 |
| * ScottK is back. | 20:03 | |
| allee | apachelogger: it isn't turned off? | 20:03 |
| apachelogger | I mean completely | 20:04 |
| apachelogger | for kdebug it is turned off | 20:04 |
| apachelogger | but still in the binary etc. | 20:04 |
| apachelogger | for qdebug you can only turn it off at build time | 20:04 |
| apachelogger | which is in part why strigi and soprano like to spam a lot | 20:04 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: I'll look at workspace. I don't see pimlibs/runtime in the queue yet though .. | 20:04 |
| apachelogger | I do not think it is ready yet | 20:05 |
| yofel | allee: bug 863242 | 20:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 863242 in Kubuntu PPA "please backport strigi 0.7.6" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/863242 | 20:05 |
| allee | yofel: ah | 20:06 |
| allee | thx for looking into it. | 20:07 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: shadeslayer went to sleep, so I think you got all you're going to get out of him. | 20:10 |
| apachelogger | ah, he upped to ppa | 20:11 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: I'll wait for it to finish building | 20:11 |
| ScottK | OK. | 20:11 |
| ScottK | -workspace accepted. | 20:11 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: do we have bug numbers for the pim stuff? | 20:17 |
| ScottK | Mostly not. | 20:17 |
| ScottK | The restart one we do though | 20:17 |
| ScottK | Let me find it. | 20:17 |
| ScottK | Bug #862483 | 20:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 862483 in akonadi (Ubuntu) "Unable to read mail after resume due to akonadi hang" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/862483 | 20:20 |
| * apachelogger wonders why the shadeslayer made it bz2 | 20:20 | |
| * ScottK would guess because that's what upstream uses. | 20:23 | |
| * ScottK thought using tar.gz was both easier and made it more obvious it was our snapshot and not upstream's release. | 20:24 | |
| * yofel would've used xz | 20:24 | |
| * apachelogger would have used prn | 20:25 | |
| ScottK | No suprise there. | 20:26 |
| JontheEchidna | any chance of getting this in to kde4libs? http://commits.kde.org/kdelibs/fc923ff98a3d0aaf0fb57ca480ba022e2978c2ac | 20:28 |
| JontheEchidna | fixes an easily-triggered Muon crash | 20:28 |
| JontheEchidna | I didn't expect final freeze so soon | 20:28 |
| BarkingFish | Nobody expects the spanish inquisition.... oh sorry, wrong sketch. | 20:29 |
| BarkingFish | nvm | 20:29 |
| JontheEchidna | lol | 20:29 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Is that in the 4.7 branch? | 20:30 |
| * apachelogger giggles away | 20:30 | |
| JontheEchidna | yep | 20:30 |
| apachelogger | BarkingFish is my favorite contributor today | 20:30 |
| ScottK | Sure. Upload away. | 20:30 |
| * apachelogger hands over award | 20:30 | |
| JontheEchidna | k | 20:30 |
| BarkingFish | :) | 20:30 |
| BarkingFish | I've had one of those days where without a sense of humor, i'd probably have walked in front of a bus or something :) | 20:31 |
| BarkingFish | You gotta have a laugh, or life is [censored for the good of mankind] | 20:31 |
| apachelogger | Start in 14 hours | 20:35 |
| apachelogger | screw that | 20:35 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: the pimmy libs rae up | 20:39 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 20:39 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: -runtime too? | 20:39 |
| apachelogger | job time uploaded now | 20:41 |
| apachelogger | or was it jog time | 20:43 |
| apachelogger | language fail | 20:43 |
| ScottK | Both accepted. Thanks for taking care of it. | 21:17 |
| ScottK | claydoh: For the work arounds that require manually restarting akonadi, we're going to have a systray app that you can do it from. That should make the explaining a bit easier. | 21:18 |
| === skreech_ is now known as Daskreech | ||
| ScottK | apachelogger: Reading this discussion about power management on kde-devel, I'm thinking maybe lowfat should be an activity. | 22:13 |
| === thor__ is now known as BarkingFish | ||
| afiestas | apachelogger: ScottK *more kubuntu developers that may be awake right now | 23:00 |
| afiestas | I have talk to illia kats into check the difference between nm09 HEAD and kubuntu snapshot | 23:00 |
| afiestas | so we can get a list of potential backport | 23:01 |
| afiestas | there is at least one security related: 5f383f9c91e3c9b69f80a2fb2832e97f0540ff5e | 23:01 |
| afiestas | more commits: ad93e757a74a159e59bbb5d54c39b63b3224a7cc (I will send them to the mailist too) | 23:07 |
| afiestas | it says "implemented support" but it is actually "Make it work fix" | 23:07 |
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