[00:09] penguin42: cat system_bus_socket returns "device or non-existent address" [00:12] how do changge the default location? [00:13] i can get to the screen but when i tray i to add a location it will not allow it and i get no errors [00:13] try' [00:34] are there any known issues with grub default options on oneiric? or am I completely incompetent and unable to configure it properly? [00:39] hi all. Just got a brand new acer aspire 5750, installed ubuntu on it, but I encountered problems with the wireless card. thought an upgrade will help, now I have 11.10, network card is still losing packets. lspci says it's a atheros AR2987 card using ath9k. Are there any known issues regarding it? Thanks. [00:50] hmmm it seems so [00:53] err... so, oneiric is shipping with a 3.0.0 kernel, but is still bundling rails 2.3.5? what's up with that? [00:54] graft: I guess more people whine about kernel than rails :-) [00:54] ktosiek: who in heck is whining to get an unstable kernel put in the build? [00:54] me! [00:54] :-P [00:54] not enough kernel panics in your life, eh [00:54] people with new hardware :-P [00:55] heh, I like new hardware [00:55] but then, I always install esx on the new hardware and run the systems inside vm's [00:55] so they always look like the *same* old boring hardware :) [00:57] hmm... anyway, so does someone know an easy way to get rails3 up in this piece? [00:58] Hi, I am trying to download a torrent on my oneiric installation overnight. But my laptop automatically sleeps after some time after lock screen. how to disable the sleep? Thanks [00:59] lgp171188: power setting has the option to disable this. [01:01] 3.0.4 is not an unstable kernel [01:01] zhiwei: It is set to 'don't suspend' when plugged in and suspend after 30 inactive minutes when on battery. My laptop is plugged in. [01:05] this may be a bug, I can't lock ubuntu 11.10 [01:05] zhiwei: Which package do I report it against? Any idea? [01:09] ian_mac, are you editing etc/default/grub and afterwards sudo update-grub? [01:09] lgp171188: I don't know, the packages related to this problem is : power-manager and screensaver. [01:09] robin0800, yes [01:12] and the cfg file seems to get updated when I run update-grub [01:13] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/428570 [01:13] Ubuntu bug 428570 in grub2 (Ubuntu Karmic) "Default grub2 configuration won't boot through to default OS" [Medium,Incomplete] [01:13] it seems to be that bug [01:14] oh but different maybe - I tried different settings for timeout and they didn't work [01:16] nite. [01:16] tomorrow is shaving and sushi.... [01:16] humm that sounds weird :P [01:31] people, I purged dbus (and my KDE is gone). But I continue receiving the error "Waiting for network configuration..." and "up to 60 more seconds for network configuration". What is causing this? [01:32] um, why did you uninstall dbus? [01:35] jbicha: installed again, and the problem back :( I uninstalled to try remove this message at boot: "unable to connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused", and this message at terminal sometimes: [01:36] jbicha: "Can't open system message bus connection: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused" [01:38] the error might be harmless [01:42] jbicha: At least now I know my slow boot trying load network configuration it's not from this error xD. But I wait about 2 or 3 min to system boot because the LAN error and my system do not boot correctily [01:51] how am I to know what random stuff you've uninstalled? at any rate I don't use Kubuntu much [02:11] if he uninstalled dbus i doubt there's much of a usable desktop environment left [02:54] hi, I need help with disabling the screensaver in 11.10... my screen goes blank after 15minutes although I've turned every imaginable setting off [03:13] Soul_Sample: thats on screen saver its by default ubuntu's screen lock [03:19] so, why can't i tab-complete into directories any more? [03:22] graft, you sure your doing it right mine works [03:23] urlin2u: it definitely doesn't work... if i do ls dir, it just completes as "ls dir ", doesn't show the contents [03:24] graft, I was using a file search my mistake nevr have used this with directories. [03:32] hello guys [03:32] I am using 11.10 , gnome 3 shell and adwaita gtk theme.. everytime I open a file, its apps uses a dark gtk theme. how can I solve it? [03:35] augusto: first, are you sure you're using Adwaita, second, apps like totem & eog opt into the Adwaita dark variant [03:36] is there a way to change it? [03:36] helios [03:36] jbicha: is there a way to change it? [03:37] augusto: System Settings>Appearance the default is Ambiance [03:37] I don't like ambiance [03:38] changing the window border requires you to restart GNOME Shell [03:39] why totem and eog opt into adwaita dark? oh god :( [03:40] augusto: did you try mucking with gnome-tweak-tool? [03:43] no, I didn't .. yet [03:43] nice. searching for 'system settings' gets you two IDENTICAL icons, one for KDE system settings, one for unity system settings, with no way to tell them apart. who designs this stuff? [03:46] People, I think there are something wrong with some package postinst configuration into oficial oneiric packages. I'm was with 2 diferent bugs who were "magically" solved. I don't have the knowledge to debug this, but I would like to invite someone with more knowledge than I to read my considerations added in a report into https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/856810 , to... [03:46] Ubuntu bug 856810 in netcfg (Ubuntu) "Boot hangs at "Booting system without full network configuration..."" [Undecided,Confirmed] [03:46] ...decide about the problem, or not... [03:47] Thanks all who helped me today :) [03:49] I fear this bug 859885 will not be fixed in Oneiric. Its a regression in unity launcher. Please can anyone look into it? [03:49] Launchpad bug 859885 in unity (Ubuntu) "Minimizing a window should switch focus to the windows underneath it (breaks restore)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/859885 [03:52] graft: that was bug 735166 which caused a bunch of controversy back in July [03:52] Launchpad bug 735166 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Duplicate System Settings & System Monitor in Gnome/Unity" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/735166 [04:11] Hi. I just switched to 11.10 and I must say I kinda puzzeled. Is there any way to properly use the unity's launcher in auto-hide mode? [04:14] Is it just I or? [04:15] please tell me I'm wrong and there actually is a sane way to use the launcher with a mouse: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/863810 [04:15] Ubuntu bug 863810 in unity (Ubuntu) "No sane way to access launcher when auto-hidden" [Undecided,New] [04:16] Design hipsters that's what it is. [04:17] Strav, if you set it to never first then auto hide will work and continue to work [04:19] never first? [04:20] Strav`, yes in confity if you have it or cccs [04:21] robin0800: I'm using ccsm (is it what you mean?) [04:21] and btw, I'm not saying auto-hide does not work, I'm saying that there's no way to properly use it without interfering with most applications. [04:22] (are there more options in confity?) [04:22] Strav`, you can adjust the time it reacts. [04:23] Strav`, yes I agree with the bug but this is my workaround [04:24] urlin2u: yes I've played with the time it reacts. But I tend to decrease the time it takes to respond, not increase it. ;) [04:28] I gotta say, some people need to know that there's a difference between usability and shiny pretty. It sure is nice and clean to have only the title displayed and the menu to show on mouse over, but I hear from a distance the new comers sayin: where the hell is my menu?! and other (more experienced users saying): great, before I could visually scan my menu and then move my cursor to the right one, now I have to move my cursor, scan the [04:28] menu, and THEN move my cursor to the right place. A cursor doesn't weight a ton, but when you access you menus a hundred times per day, it's useless and anoying. (design hipsters again) [04:33] Dash too is a pretty neat piece of crap while we're at it. I think I could easily name 3 to 4 basic needs that are rendered more difficult and counter intuitive by it. And hell was there really some developper time spent on that "let's color the dash with the average color of your background" thing? [04:33] Strav`, why are you using it the? [04:33] then [04:35] Because it's been around 6 years I'm using ubuntu. Because I used to love this project and mainly, I'm generally critical of things I care about because I wish them to improve, not regress. [04:36] And another because: because I involved a lot of time doing some custome configs for this box I'm using, I don't want to waste that time migrating elsewhere (not atm actually). [04:37] Strav`, your opinion is subjective no matter what, like all of ours, is this the place a support channel to express a rant? [04:37] And actually there are great things with unity: the screen maximization extra space provided by the singe top window bar/menu, this is neat. The new application switcher too is nice but I guess credit goes to gnome 3 for this one. [04:38] urlin2u: No my opinion might be subjective, but there are usability axioms: such as more clicks to do the same action is a waste, more mouse movements is a waste, more thinking, more guessing is a waste. [04:40] urlin2u: and to be honest with you, I'm kinda just trolling to see if I might catch someone responsible for these decisions and ask him to explain me WHY? [04:41] Strav`, actually more thinking is good in the area of brain plasticity, if i make a purchase through the store in ubuntu, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_plasticity [04:41] tajke out the part of the seb=ntence that k=makes no sense oops if i make a purchase through the store in ubuntu, [04:42] and the spelling to doh [04:42] trolling is only going to get you ignored [04:43] urlin2u: well you know, I'd rather be thinking about how to prove a nice math conjecture than thinking: how can I click back in my browser without trigerring that damn application launcher. [04:44] IdleOne: yea but ain't it fun? [04:44] only for you, the rest wonder when you will take the meds [04:45] :D [04:45] Strav`: not really, it is distracting to those who are here to help and get help. [04:45] IdleOne: well if there's someone that'll come here for help, really, I'll let him speak. [04:46] Btw, is it normal that my upgrade failed because of some problem with perl's dependencies? [04:46] Strav`: in a dev version, yes. [04:47] anything of everything is normal [04:48] (I'm thinking about the general reaction people will have with those decisions concerning unity MIXED with all the defficiencies of gnome3, wow: no default way to change your icons, how to I install a theme? Didn't see those since a while.) [04:49] IdleOne: I happend to be a dev so please don't lecture me about these. I'm just wondering if it's, to your knowledege, a well reported and documented issue. [04:49] if you are a dev then help fix it, patches welcome. [04:50] I do contribute, but when I have time and when I feel like it (and I really don't feel like it atm). [04:51] All that's spinning in my head right now is: arch arch arch baby (vanilla ice version). [04:51] ok, then go and work with arch and stop blogging in this support channel. [04:52] :O [04:53] Agreed, I'm not productive. But before I leave I have one honest question for which I'd like an honest answer. [04:55] What is happening with those design team? I sure am not the only one bashing his head against the wall am I? Do they take user feedback or they're just mandated to be emulating apple? [04:55] email them and ask. [04:56] canonical.com should have the address. [04:56] unity hater? :O [04:56] Yea I'll get their mailing list. [04:57] sgerbino: I don't hate unity (parts of it are really great), but there are some other parts that just don't make any sense to anyone in his right mind (in terms of clicks, mouse movement, general usability). Especially some of the "improvements" that came with 11.10. [04:58] You going to start again? if so let me know so I can mute you. [04:58] ah, I haven't noticed major differences other than aesthetic improvements [04:58] since 11.04 that is [04:58] This is a support channel NOT a rant about what you don't like channel. [04:59] IdleOne: just a hint like that: usability bugs are real bugs. [05:00] At least in the real world they are. [05:00] launchpad.net is the bug tracker used [05:01] I am not saying that your concerns are not valid, what I am saying is that this channel is not the place to voice them. [05:01] IdleOne: yes I'm aware of that. [05:01] And I'm really leaving actually. Thanks for the steam venting. [05:02] ok i hear beta 2 is out. was anyone having a problem with ics and has anyone confirmed it working [05:03] wow what an a$$hole [05:03] pardon my language [05:06] lol [05:09] not you kristopher [05:11] yeah i know i saw the comment thanks for letting me vent by strav im guessing he came in asking questions being a dick getting no answers [05:11] its irc lol [05:38] What version of gcc is included by default? Is clang included by default? [05:39] 4:4.6.1-2ubuntu5 [05:39] clang: [05:39] Installed: (none) [05:39] Candidate: 2.9-11ubuntu1 [05:40] clang is available but not installed default [05:40] okay [05:40] but version 2.9 [05:40] pretty good [05:48] Anything I should know about development on 11.10? [05:48] I might be virtualizing it on OS X by the way [05:48] I like gedit/gcc/Terminal [05:48] and svn [07:17] is beta2 pretty stable? [07:18] I need to provision a new workstation but I don't want to have to bother with upgrading in a week or two [07:18] ubottu ix talking o_O [07:18] nyuszika7h: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [07:19] oh [07:19] is* [07:19] and I confused it with ubuntu_ [07:19] I just need to know if it's stable enough for a general purpose workstation right now [07:21] is anyone here using oneiric in production yet? [07:23] BUG! ICS does not work [07:24] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing [07:24] ubuntu_: oeniric is still beta testing, so if you want a stable workstation, use LTS instead [07:24] this tutorial is outdated [07:24] i cant use LTS. i have modern hardware [07:25] Stanley00: why should i stop beta testing if i found a bug? [07:25] I understand it's beta. [07:25] How stable is it [07:25] carli2: sorry, I'm talking to ubuntu_ ;) [07:26] are we talking frequent kernel panics? [07:26] oh ok [07:26] ubuntu_: dont know, crash randomly ;) [07:26] or just the random odd bug here or there? [07:26] so you're saying it crashes randomly at this point? [07:26] even just a couple of weeks before general release? [07:27] ubuntu_: yep, my oneiric crash when I exit xchat :)) [07:27] wtf... [07:27] how do they exect to be stable if the whole system crashes on application exits... [07:28] that sounds like BS to me [07:28] *expect [07:28] ubuntu_: haha, so I think you should use natty for a while, and wait 1 or 2 months to upgrade to oneiric ;) [07:29] man, I'm tired of this stupid release cycle... [07:29] I'd rn everything on Arch if rolling release didn't break fglrx every month [07:32] ubuntu_: haha, there are many distro out there, so if you dont like ubuntu, you can choose the others... [07:33] I like ubuntu, just not the release cycle [07:34] xserver breaks fglrx because fglrx is not opensource and the API changes very often [07:35] use the open source driver if you dont play crysis with wine [07:35] I do CAD/3D work, I have to have fglrx [07:45] ubuntulog_: maybe you should grab yourself a working video card.. like an NVIDIA :) [07:45] ati drivers are pitiful and lame [07:45] same as ever [08:05] hi, [08:06] how can I tell apport to not start firefox but giving me: [08:06] - a message window from where i can copy the link [08:06] - or open firefox at display :10 [08:06] firefox dosent open but tells me "firefox is already running" [08:06] so i cannot report bugs. [08:08] carli2: apport-cli [08:09] jbicha: when a program crashes, it starts apport. how can i change that? [08:16] carli2: well you can totally disable apport, in fact, Ubuntu will do that soon in prepartion for stable release [08:17] jbicha: but i need the bugfixes, otherwise i wouldnt call the "stable relase" a stable release [08:18] afaik stable releases watch for bugs. so why does everyone in #ubuntu+1 tell me to not report bugs? [08:18] carli2: you can ask in #ubuntu-bugs but apport-cli will let you report crashes [08:19] where can i disable apport to start on startup? [08:19] you're confusing, first you don't want apport then you do, then you don't ;) [08:20] sudo nano /etc/default/apport and change enabled to 0 [08:22] the problem with apport is that it tries to open firefox at DISPLAY=:0 [08:22] but firefox is opened on display :10 [08:22] so i cannot report bugs with apport because firefox tells me "firefox is already opened" [08:24] and when i disable apport in /etc/default/apport, it wouldnt collect crash data. [08:25] i want to use apport, but it's not working on my system. that's the point [08:26] i'm using x2x and firefox is running on the second screen. [08:27] change your default browser briefly to chromium for instance [08:27] lol [08:27] why dont you suppose me to use windows which has no bugs? [08:28] do whatever you like, I gave you 3 different solutions [08:28] Windows has no bugs? [08:28] i use the 4th solution and reported a bug [08:29] right right, they are called "open ports" in Windows [08:33] carli2: I'm not certain there's an easy way to do what you want... (use apport but have it use a different display) [08:34] carli2: one thing you might try is removing apport-gtk [08:35] carli2: which would leave the cli part of apport in place [08:35] hmm, good idea [08:35] carli2: I've not tried it, but failing that, it sounds like a good feature request to raise [08:35] carli2: let me know if it works, I'm curious [08:36] well, then i have to wait for a crash [08:36] * carli2 has an idea how to raise a random crash in ubuntu [08:36] carli2: I think there's a "test" [08:38] hmm, why dont we use a "good" method to download update package for ubuntu, some kind like zsync or torrent? [08:39] there's apt-p2p [08:41] drussel: when i remove apport-gtk, it opens firefox anyway, but now i have better control on hich display to start it :) [08:42] Stanley00: there is a menu point in synaptic "generate script that downloads packages" [08:42] carli2: good stuff :o) [08:43] carli2: and then, we have to download every bytes of the deb file we need... [08:44] Stanley00: you can execute this script on a machine which has internet and you get a folder full of deb files [08:46] carli2: oh, I mean, if I already had a deb file, eg a-0.0.1.deb, and then there is a-0.0.2.deb in the repos, why dont we use zsync to just download the different part of two file, instead of download all a-0.0.2.deb? [08:46] 13 days to go [08:49] how can i attach more than one file to a launchpad report? [08:52] okay i created the attachment afterwards [08:55] Stanley00: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-o-debdelta [08:59] jbicha: hope it will finish soon... [09:02] I wonder why it take so long to get to ubuntu? debdelta is working debian since ages :/ [09:03] ubuntu also needs the pdiff update ._. downloading 30mb in a apt-get update sucks [09:11] jtaylor: it's here, in oneiric, why blueprint said it's postponed? [09:11] its there but does it work? [09:11] last I checked it didn'T [09:12] just downloaded, I testing it now... [09:13] nope not working for me [09:13] Also I think it was only planed for stable releases [09:19] yep, not working for me too... :( [09:22] really sucks, currently again working on 140mb download, mostly libreoff where probably only a few kb of the apcakge actually changed ._. [09:22] 22.3 kB/s 1h 36min 27s [09:22] hurray [10:00] What are the differences between 11.04 and 11.10? [10:01] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/TechnicalOverview [10:01] gnome3 [10:02] How to switch back to gnome 2 on 11.10? [10:02] use another distro [10:02] Why? [10:02] gnome2 is dead [10:02] i dont want to reboot every time I want to use gnome or unity [10:02] I want to use gnome because it gives me lot of customization [10:02] it will disappear everywhere, only forks may continue to exist [10:02] Something Unity is missing [10:03] And Unity is keeping my CPU fan turned on all the time [10:03] (and asking much power consumption) [10:03] use awesome [10:03] what is awesome? [10:04] oneiric suspends even when it should be disabled by the settings. which package should i report that against? [10:04] that is know [10:04] you just need to add gnome-settings-daemon to the awesome startup script, so all widgets are working [10:04] critical bug but I don't remember which number :/ [10:04] jtaylor: me? [10:05] y [10:05] looks like bug 854624 [10:05] Any way to customize Unity? [10:05] Launchpad bug 854624 in gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) "[oneiric] suspend/hibernate not performed according to "Power Settings"" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/854624 [10:05] alex: check out unity source ;) [10:08] aaah :) now i understand the multiarch support [10:09] Any way to customize unity? [10:09] move the buttons around [10:10] alex--: get the source [10:11] source of what? [10:11] of unity [10:11] or what do you want to customize? [10:11] everything? [10:12] just drag n drop every bar to somewhere else [10:12] chaning the layout of the left bar [10:12] place it to the bottom [10:13] alex--: https://code.launchpad.net/unity [10:13] Something which will add all active apps to the top [10:13] And non active to the bottom [10:14] I can't code.. [10:15] Hey guys [10:15] Any ideas, if the 'add launcher to desktop' feature was dropped in 11.10? [10:15] it was [10:15] alex--: there is a package called gnome-fallback [10:16] What's that? [10:16] so, i'm basically stuck with creating folder or new documents only? that sucks [10:16] ... [10:16] I like Unity if you can customize it like Gnome could [10:16] the gnome3 desktop where you can arrange things by pressing Alt [10:16] I dont want gnome 3 [10:17] how do add manually installed application to dash home? [10:18] unity is a work in progress [10:18] oh, ok. Guess i'll need to wait till the final release in 2 weeks ^^ [10:19] you may have to create a .desktop file [10:19] been using gnome 3 more lately [10:19] Eduard: use the ubuntu-bug program [10:19] copy one from /usr/share/applications modify it and install it with desktop-file-install [10:19] i've just installed lubuntu to give that a whirl [10:19] seriously impressive compared to the speed of both unity and unity-2d on my netbook [10:19] over the past month i've tried every alternative to unity and all of them are even worse [10:21] i think unity would be great if i had a pc with a bit more poke [10:21] unity alternatve like what? [10:21] almost certainly you just need more ram [10:21] dr_willis: kde, gnome shell, xfce [10:22] ali1234: possibly, it does only have 1gig [10:22] you mean other desktops then :) [10:22] alternatives, yes [10:22] they are not really desktops [10:22] they are just window managers [10:23] kde is a desktop. openbox is a wm [10:23] gnomeshell is a shell... [10:24] the only thing i am interested in is window management [10:24] every other feature of the desktop is mostly meaningless [10:24] for example, indexing. the first thing i always turn off [10:24] unity is not a window manager. [10:24] which reminds me, i need to uninstall zeitgeist on this machine [10:24] you can simply turn a window manager to a desktop when you run some additional programs like synapse for your main menu and gnome-settings-daemon which will give you network manager etc. [10:25] oh, so switching between windows does not count as window management? [10:25] compiz is the wm under unity [10:25] and your point is? [10:25] you are comfuseing terms. [10:26] X11 is the windowing system under compiz [10:26] this is irrelevent [10:26] unity is a compiz plugin [10:26] compiz is a window manager [10:26] now you are getting it [10:26] since unity *is* compiz [10:27] unity is a window manager [10:27] gotta run. bbl [10:27] unity is a shell.. it is not compiz. chat later. [10:27] ok then [10:28] i tried every alternative to the unity SHELL, and they are all even worse [10:34] What are the main differences between clean install and upgrade? [10:35] upgrade is less likely to work properly [10:37] what do you mean? [10:37] For now ( because it's beta ), or always? [10:37] always [10:38] :( [10:38] I wonder, why don't we merge the me menu and the email menu? [10:44] I have a problem with 11.10d [10:44] 11.10 * [10:44] I can only set display brightness to 0 or to full [10:44] No middle thing [11:00] Hey guys, I have a quick question... With the release of GNOME 3.2 came the quick preview option for image/video/whatever files and it hasn't been packaed in Ubuntu 11.10 yet. I was wondering since it's the hard freeze, will it ever be implemented ? [11:02] hello? [11:02] hi [11:02] !info gnome-desktop3 [11:02] Package gnome-desktop3 does not exist in oneiric [11:02] augh [11:02] Hum ? [11:03] !info gnome-shell [11:03] gnome-shell (source: gnome-shell): graphical shell for the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.0-0ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 1041 kB, installed size 4864 kB [11:03] MarkGreenwood, ^ note the version number [11:05] I know, but I just want to know if the quick preview feature will be implemented or not alongside some others like the new Documents app. [11:08] So... No one knows ? [11:09] someone does, just not me [11:09] Oh ok... Well am I at the riht place ? [11:09] right* [11:09] yeppers [11:09] Ok :P [11:09] :) [11:10] I will google a bit more [11:10] Well, even if it does not make it through this release, Oneiric will be the best Ubuntu release so far for me :D [11:10] I absolutely love it [11:11] If it is any help, I think the package is called SuShi [11:12] !find sushi [11:12] Found: sushi-plugins [11:12] !info sushi-plugins [11:12] sushi-plugins (source: sushi): D-Bus-based IRC suite (clients plugins). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.3.0+dfsg-2build1 (oneiric), package size 5 kB, installed size 60 kB [11:12] nope [11:12] Mmh :\ [11:12] Wait I got a link.. [11:14] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6KiwtkE0iY That was back in beta 2... The title reads: GNOME 3.2 beta 2 with the Sushi utility [11:14] But it has been implemented in GNOME 3.2 officially, see the release notes [11:15] Is there any way to disable the screen turning off and/or to disable suspend? [11:15] very nice. thanks for the link [11:15] Go in the power settins [11:16] vsync , Go in system settings: Power option [11:16] MarkGreenwood yeah, but it doesn't work, really. When i try to set "never" on the screen turning off... It resets it to "1 minute" [11:16] and as for suspend, i have "don't suspend" in power settings, yet it still suspends [11:17] just upgraded to lubuntu 11.10 daily build...... looks nice, had trouble with beta 2 [11:17] vsync Have you installed the latest updates ? [11:17] Oops, some arrived today. Was checking last night and there were none. Sorry =) [11:17] how i can change fonts with 11.10? am i just stupid? can't find any dialog for it [11:20] i think software center should ask why you are removing a program, like android does [11:23] ali1234: id rather it not ask and just do what i say. :) [11:23]