ScottKinfinity: ^^^  Prety please ....00:35
infinityScottK: Bribery would help.00:59
ScottKinfinity: Thanks.  Anything you want me to cargo cult in in exchange?01:24
infinityScottK: I have a ubiquity upload coming later tonight, but not just yet.01:25
infinityIf you're around, a review would be lovely.  If not, I'll find someone else. ;)01:25
ScottKSuch a perfect time to have a dead powerpc buildd....02:33
infinityDid we kill one?02:39
infinityApparently so.02:39
* infinity accepts grub2 and goes to bed.12:12
skaetScottK, understood.   infinity, thanks for getting them through.14:06
slangasekcjwatson, infinity: thanks for the quick grub fix!  Now we just need to revert those nvidia/fglrx blacklists... :)18:37
stgraberslangasek: just saw your comments in the bug. So seems like the nvidia blob is actually doing KMS now?19:02
slangasekstgraber: no, it isn't, that's not the issue19:07
slangasekstgraber: gfxpayload=keep hands a VESA framebuffer off to the kernel, which gets picked up automatically; and that apparently coexists fine with nvidia... but it also leaves the console in graphics mode, with nothing to set it to text mode for us in recovery19:08
slangasekexact same thing happens with intel19:08
slangaseknow a C program to forcibly switch the console to text mode before launching the friendly-recovery menu would be trivial, but it's still a little late to go that route19:09
slangasekso we should just use =text for recovery mode for this cycle19:09
stgraberoh fun, that explains what komputes reported yesterday then19:09
slangasekyes, indeed19:09
slangasekif you remember his bug number, please dupe it :)19:09
slangasekand then on the menu for today, I have bug #864149 :/19:10
ubot4Launchpad bug 864149 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 3 other projects) "initrd doesn't set Fr keyboard layout anymore => couldn't open root luks at boot (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86414919:10
stgraberI guess fixing that one will make my fix for bug 524605 obsolete (starting console-setup to have the keyboard layout properly set)19:14
ubot4Launchpad bug 524605 in friendly-recovery (Ubuntu) "Keyboard layout isn't configured by the time friendly-recovery starts (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52460519:14
slangasekstgraber: not exactly19:16
slangaseknot unless we decide to always do console-setup in the initramfs... which we currently do not, for reasons of boot speed19:18
cjwatsonwe do if it panics; it would be fairly straightforward to do that on entry to recovery mode too19:34
cjwatsonthough I don't know whether it'd be better to just do it from f-r instsead19:35
slangasekcjwatson: for recovery mode, it all currently works19:35
slangasekit's for regular boots, with luks root filesystem and binary video drivers where things are going wrong19:35
slangasekbecause the binary video drivers are forcing FRAMEBUFFER=n for initramfs-tools, and console-setup keys on that19:35
cjwatsonah, right19:36
cjwatsonwell, again, the bits are all in the initramfs, it would be fairly easy to make c-s check the cryptsetup case too19:36
cjwatson(but probably not for 11.10)19:36
* slangasek nods19:37
cjwatsonmaybe.  I think it keyed off FRAMEBUFFER=n for a reason mind you19:37
slangasekboot performance19:37
cjwatsonyes, but I don't think it was just that19:38
cjwatsonI have a feeling that it didn't work reliably unless the framebuffer was there19:38
cjwatsonperhaps because we couldn't set the font yet unless it was19:38
slangasekwell anyway, setting FRAMEBUFFER=n is the wrong way for the binary drivers to handle this19:38
cjwatson(that makes sense now I say it)19:38
slangasekthe question is whether we'll be able to sort out the right way in a timely manner19:38
* slangasek goes back to fiddling with his test nvidia box :)19:39
cjwatsonhmm, infinity got stalled on the flash-kernel-installer related bug he was working on and didn't upload ubiquity overnight; I think I'll do that now, it has several bug fixes which could use maximal testing time19:40
ScottKcjwatson: Your ubiquity upload adds gir1.2-soup-2.4 as a ubiquity-frontend-gtk depends.  Was that intentional (not mentioned in changelog)?20:15
ScottKActually I can see it's used in the code now...20:15
slangasekcjwatson: is en_US.UTF-8 locale guaranteed to be present?20:26
ScottKI think so.20:28
ScottKDon't we seed it on everything?20:28
ScottKBTW, I accepted it, but don't let that stop you asking questions ...20:28
slangasekI'm not sure20:28
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slangasekhmm, promising lead on the nvidia-initramfs-framebuffer issue20:42
cjwatsonScottK: yes, needed for the async geoname fetching code; it was already on all the relevant CDs as far as I could see so I didn't scruple20:45
ScottKOK.  Thaks.20:45
cjwatsonslangasek: language-pack-en-base creates it and currently that's always there20:45
ScottKThanks even.20:45
slangasekcjwatson: ok20:45
cjwatsonslangasek: ultimately it ought to be C.UTF-8 instead but I didn't want to risk that given that we were already using en_US.UTF-8 for a similar purpose elsewhere20:46
cjwatson(thanks for asking questions though!)20:46
slangaseksure :)20:47
slangasekhummm, did we have another regression in pkgbinarymangler?  libxcb-render0 has changelog.Debian.gz listed in md5sums, but it's a symlink20:48
slangaseksame for a bunch of other desktop library packages20:48
slangasekah, and some of these builds are from June... I guess I should run debsums -s more often :/20:50
cjwatsonplease don't tell me we have to rebuild the world20:53
slangasekI don't think it warrants rebuilding the world for a wrong .md5sums20:55
slangasekbut there are a lot of wrong .md5sums on my system20:55
cjwatsonargh, ubiquity failed to build, not funny21:02
cjwatsonoh, missing build-dep I think :-/21:02
slangasekok, got a solution for bug #864149 I think; just need to test it on a non-nvidia system now too21:27
ubot4Launchpad bug 864149 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 3 other projects) "initrd doesn't set keyboard layout when nvidia drivers are installed (FRAMEBUFFER=n override) (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86414921:27
cjwatsonslangasek: did you notice bug 862129?22:52
ubot4Launchpad bug 862129 in samba (Ubuntu) "package samba 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 2 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86212922:52
slangasekcjwatson: no, I hadn't.  what do you suggest?  ignoring errors from update-inetd?23:05
slangaseknot a new issue in any case; I don't see a reason to treat this as a blocker for 11.1023:05
cjwatsonthe general problem isn't easy to solve; perhaps an explicit test that File::Temp is loadable, but that violates layers ...23:10
* slangasek nods23:10
cjwatsonit probably isn't, though I'd like to confirm that it doesn't show up in default upgrades23:11
cjwatsonor default upgrades after samba has been installed anyway23:11
cjwatsondidn't doc-base run into something similar?23:11
slangasekI don't recall23:12
cjwatsonmaybe that was more direct23:15
* slangasek accepts ubiquity23:17
slangasekhmm, looks like I'm ENOTIME to finish testing this initramfs-tools change now; will have to upload it later this evening23:18
cjwatsonI suspect that the simplest fix for bug 770711 looks rather like http://paste.ubuntu.com/700779/ (though I'm not going to start testing that at this time of night) - does anyone object to the X-Python-Version bump there, for collections.OrderedDict?23:37
ubot4Launchpad bug 770711 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 1 other project) "Prefers to install to USB rather than to HD (affects: 3) (heat: 16)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77071123:37
cjwatsonA backport does exist, but it's a fair chunk of code, and given that 2.7 is our default anyway ...23:37
DavieySeems easy enough to roll back if it does cause issues.23:39

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