| philipballew | howdy all! | 00:52 |
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| === crashsystems is now known as crash-partyhat | ||
| seidos | howdy | 00:58 |
| crash-partyhat | hello | 01:00 |
| akk | Is there a schedule for Oneiric somewhere, like when beta2 might be likely to be out? Likely to be much difference between today's build and one next Tuesday? | 03:24 |
| akk | Oh, NM, I guess it is out, it just wasn't showing up on the page I was looking at (they make those betas kinda hard to find). | 03:25 |
| seidos | no kidding | 03:35 |
| akk | Get a load of this: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/beta-2/ has no x86 desktop CD images, only amd64 | 03:35 |
| akk | but http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/ (which has the exact same title, Oneiric beta 2) does have x86 desktop CD | 03:36 |
| akk | both of them say that's the type of build most people will want, even the page that doesn't offer it in the most common architecture | 03:36 |
| akk | Actually the first one seems to be a Mac page (all the builds say Mac) though it doesn't say anything about macs in either the title or URL. | 03:38 |
| === crashsystems is now known as crash|party-hat | ||
| seidos | well, the only reason for me to install a different version now is for the newer kernels | 03:58 |
| seidos | i'll likely do an alternate install if i ever reinstall ubuntu, my notebook is about 3 years ago | 03:59 |
| seidos | lol | 03:59 |
| seidos | mustn't say the "o" word | 03:59 |
| akk | I've got a new laptop coming (my current one has a cracked screen -- tragedy!) | 03:59 |
| akk | so I thought I might try oneiric to see if the powersaving bug has improved any | 04:00 |
| seidos | this is the 2nd screen on this notebook >_< | 04:00 |
| akk | Also it gives me something to put on my whizzy multi-live-CD USB stick. :) | 04:00 |
| seidos | multi-live-cd usb stick? that sounds interesting. | 04:01 |
| akk | The cheapest screen for mine was $180 on ebay, used and not perfect. It's a sony, so parts are hard to get. | 04:01 |
| seidos | ah, yeah. mine was $100 | 04:01 |
| seidos | i guess sony is like the bmw of notebooks | 04:01 |
| seidos | the metaphor is probably imperfect :P | 04:02 |
| akk | Something like that, anyway. | 04:02 |
| akk | Anyway, half the price of a new vaguely comparable machine (that I hope will fix a lot of the problems that old machine had, doubtless substituting new ones :) | 04:03 |
| akk | For the multi USB stick I followed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1288604 -- it was super easy, worked like a charm. | 04:03 |
| seidos | what brand is the new one? | 04:03 |
| akk | The new one's a Dell. | 04:03 |
| seidos | probably not a bad choice | 04:03 |
| seidos | they are like the Ford of computers | 04:03 |
| seidos | or Honda | 04:03 |
| akk | I've never had one, but d's been happy with his Dell Mini 9. | 04:03 |
| seidos | hard to say, since parts come from over seas o_o | 04:03 |
| seidos | i saw an ad for a dell, i think it was in the paper | 04:04 |
| seidos | it looked like they were trying to make it look like a Mac | 04:04 |
| akk | And it looked like the best option from the 4-5 possible choices that met my criteria. | 04:04 |
| seidos | if i had money, i might've done that | 04:04 |
| seidos | the only other thing i might consider are gateway and lenovo | 04:05 |
| seidos | and lenovo is out, since i'm trying to help the u.s. economy, for the trickle down | 04:05 |
| akk | Lenovo was on my list, but it was 1.5x the price (for admittedly a much higher spec machine). | 04:06 |
| seidos | i'd be interested in hearing out it goes. now i'd probably want to buy something used if something happened to this notebook | 04:08 |
| seidos | it's already hanging together, battery is dead, and ac adapter is soldered together | 04:08 |
| akk | My vaio was used from ebay, and it's served me well for 4 years (except it did have some scratches on the screen from the keyboard). | 04:09 |
| seidos | i had a vaio at an old job. i liked it. | 04:09 |
| seidos | i think it was a p3 900mhz :) | 04:09 |
| seidos | 14" | 04:09 |
| akk | There are some good laptop deals on ebay -- though for this one, I got a much better deal at Dell's outlet (it's a refurb) than the used ones on ebay. | 04:09 |
| akk | I had a p3 700 10" vaio laptop before this Centrino 11" one. | 04:10 |
| akk | Sony makes nice hardware but they are quirky, and sometimes hard to repair/get parts for. | 04:10 |
| akk | Ironically, the Dell I bought also comes with Linux -- but only in certain configurations, not the ones I wanted, and not the cheap ones from the outlet. | 04:11 |
| seidos | i never had a problem with the 14" i had, but i didn't have it for very long | 04:18 |
| seidos | it was a compusa special, anything at the time was petter than the p1-200mhz | 04:19 |
| seidos | context is everything | 04:19 |
| akk | yep! | 04:19 |
| seidos | i'm still not satisfied with my configuration, i think what i want doesn't exist | 04:20 |
| akk | That's always true for me. | 04:21 |
| akk | I was really happy with the current Vaio's size, but nobody makes that any more. | 04:21 |
| seidos | i'm happy with the 13" size, but i should've got a tablet | 04:22 |
| akk | The tablet I want doesn't exist either. :) | 04:22 |
| seidos | it's kind of good that i didn't, because had i did, i would likely have had all kinds of problems | 04:22 |
| seidos | i saw some "tablets" being used on a samurai jack extras video | 04:23 |
| akk | This dell I'm getting has a touchscreen! It'll be interesting to see if I can make it work in Linux. | 04:23 |
| seidos | i think it was an external monitor or something though | 04:23 |
| seidos | and they looked expensive | 04:23 |
| seidos | good luck :) | 04:23 |
| akk | Thanks! | 04:23 |
| === crashsystems is now known as crash|party-hat | ||
| philipballew | kdub_, you get stuck with mas again? | 06:56 |
| === TheTinker is now known as _Faqtotum | ||
| MarkDude | aaditya: pingy | 16:32 |
| jdeslip | Is there a way to contact a launchpad user if they didn't provide an email address? | 18:43 |
| seidos | jdeslip: any luck? | 19:05 |
| seidos | hello makushimu | 19:06 |
| makushimu | hello seidos! | 19:29 |
| aaditya | MarkDude: pong | 20:00 |
| MarkDude | Hey there aaditya how are things going with you? | 20:07 |
| * MarkDude wants to maybe meet up with you next week, and see about organizing search for permanent location for GK | 20:08 | |
| aaditya | MarkDude: things are going well. | 20:22 |
| aaditya | I'll PM. | 20:22 |
| philipballew | just got a desktop, monitor, router, and 5 usb wireless adapters for 50 bucks! | 20:52 |
| MarkDude | Sounds like a deal philipballew | 20:57 |
| seidos | i wouldn't know what to do with them. i have two desktops sitting under the kitchen table collecting dust | 20:57 |
| seidos | what i really need are books. i'm going to check out the west hollywood library | 20:59 |
| philipballew | seidos, yeah, my desktop mobo craped out on me, so this guy from the rich part of sd was trying to get rid of them | 21:00 |
| philipballew | what kind of books | 21:00 |
| seidos | a decent anatomy physiology book would probably be good | 21:01 |
| seidos | electrical engineering, mechanical engineering | 21:01 |
| seidos | unfortunately, i suspect i'll have to go to a college library to get these | 21:01 |
| seidos | i was thinking schematics would be awesome, but i doubt i have the tools to really build anything | 21:01 |
| seidos | i should probably stick to biology, really | 21:02 |
| MarkDude | seidos: what about visualizing find a garage sale that has some cool books at it, it could happen | 21:02 |
| philipballew | if you come here seidos we have all that stuff | 21:03 |
| philipballew | but 100 miles is kinda far | 21:03 |
| seidos | the bigger problem is food and shelter philipballew :) | 21:04 |
| seidos | MarkDude: so could winning the lottery :) | 21:04 |
| seidos | still haven't got that cumberbun for this year's SCaLE either :P | 21:05 |
| seidos | not sure where i'm going to find that | 21:05 |
| philipballew | well i have meals you can have and a floor :) | 21:05 |
| seidos | philipballew: i'll take this into consideration :) | 21:06 |
| seidos | i don't have a sleeping bag, so a floor may not be sufficient. 100mi would take 10+ hours on a bike o_o | 21:07 |
| MarkDude | Well I have actually visualized stuff like finding a book. | 21:08 |
| MarkDude | And had it happen, we are nottalking world peace | 21:08 |
| MarkDude | cumberbun? Epic | 21:09 |
| seidos | tell us how it happened MarkDude. i'd like to hear the story | 21:09 |
| * MarkDude remembers being bored a few years ago - while living in Santa Cruz | 21:10 | |
| MarkDude | Wanted to read, imagined it being so | 21:10 |
| MarkDude | Hoped on my bike, and rode araound randomly | 21:11 |
| MarkDude | found some books at a sale that was ending, they were free | 21:11 |
| seidos | ah, interesting | 21:12 |
| seidos | i'm not really bored. i might be able to read the books i want at the santa monica college library | 21:13 |
| seidos | i'll have to go there | 21:13 |
| MarkDude | I mean it was a weekend, during the day, I dont think is as likely to happen- in Alaska in winter on tuesday | 21:13 |
| crashsystems | hello world | 21:14 |
| seidos | did the world respond? | 21:14 |
| crashsystems | not really. the ping timed out | 21:15 |
| seidos | T_T | 21:15 |
| seidos | http://abstrusegoose.com/134 | 21:16 |
| crashsystems | People I've known that are younger than me are having children, which makes me feel old. I should't log into Facebook. o_O | 21:16 |
| seidos | here's what you do | 21:17 |
| seidos | you stand up | 21:17 |
| seidos | and spin around several times | 21:17 |
| seidos | you should feel younger afterwards | 21:18 |
| crashsystems | yeah, that would bring back memories... | 21:18 |
| seidos | reveries, they can make you feel younger or older i suspect | 21:18 |
| seidos | ah, right, i think if one just remembers without reliving it, then they'll feel old | 21:19 |
| seidos | i think i'm getting younger though. just the other day i think i turned 15 | 21:20 |
| seidos | thankfully i'm a mature 15 | 21:20 |
| MarkDude | Hmmm | 21:20 |
| * MarkDude is hoping to be 15 one day | 21:20 | |
| MarkDude | I have to reach it before I can return | 21:20 |
| seidos | i listen to Nirvana now, and it's okay that i'm so horny, because my will is good | 21:21 |
| MarkDude | Just dont get a heroin habit, and avoid talking to Courtney Love | 21:21 |
| seidos | if i can manage not to get fibromyalgia or whatever he had i should be okay | 21:22 |
| crashsystems | anyone know when the next mountain view meet up is? | 21:24 |
| seidos | crashsystems: should be on the website somewhere. did you already check? | 22:37 |
| crashsystems | nope | 22:38 |
| * crashsystems checks | 22:38 | |
| seidos | i'm investigating html5 stuff, i just disabled flash in mozilla o_o | 22:40 |
| seidos | so apparently h.264 is evil | 22:40 |
| MarkDude | yep , h254 kicks puppies | 22:41 |
| crashsystems | I want to play around with using the html5 audio tag as an xss injection | 22:41 |
| seidos | maybe i do too, i have no idea what an xss is | 22:42 |
| crashsystems | cross site scripting. | 22:43 |
| crashsystems | https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Cross-site_Scripting_(XSS) | 22:43 |
| seidos | crashsystems: did you find the list of ubuntu hours? | 22:43 |
| crashsystems | nope | 22:44 |
| seidos | it's kind of funky: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UbuntuHours | 22:44 |
| seidos | i had to click "projects" to get to it, not "meetings" | 22:44 |
| crashsystems | I just had the idea to google it instead of trying to navigate there | 22:44 |
| seidos | that's kind of slow for me right now :( | 22:45 |
| seidos | i'm torrenting and using mozilla (abrowser in trisquel) | 22:45 |
| crashsystems | if I could get Firefox's tab groups in Chrome, I could die a happy man. | 22:47 |
| seidos | when was the tab group added? in ff7? | 22:48 |
| seidos | lol, reminds me of "final fantasy 7" | 22:48 |
| crashsystems | ff4 | 22:48 |
| seidos | cloud and his big @#& sword | 22:48 |
| seidos | hmmm, i wonder if abrowser has it. | 22:48 |
| seidos | i should just install the newest firefox and be done with it | 22:48 |
| crashsystems | I use Chrome at home, but I couldn't live without Firefox at work | 22:49 |
| seidos | i stopped using chrome about a week ago | 22:51 |
| seidos | it's been teaching me to be patient | 22:51 |
| crashsystems | lol | 22:52 |
| akk | I just wish they hadn't taken away small tabs when they added tab groups. | 22:57 |
| akk | I haven't figured out how to use tab groups, and meanwhile without minimum tab size it'll only show a small number of tabs at once. | 22:57 |
| seidos | i've just been using "app tabs" | 23:06 |
| crashsystems | yeah, app tabs do save some space, but still does not solve the kinds of problems I have when I have 80 tabs open | 23:08 |
| seidos | i don't have that many tabs open anymore, maybe 20 at a time | 23:09 |
| seidos | 10 app tabs, and 6 other | 23:09 |
| akk | Firefox 6 won't show any more than 10 tabs at once. :( | 23:10 |
| crashsystems | I often have at least 45 open at work. Fewer at home, but still a decent number | 23:10 |
| akk | Make that 9, not even 10. | 23:10 |
| MarkDude | Ubuntu does not allow easy search for stuff using its wiki | 23:11 |
| akk | I always do general google searches (with ubuntu as one of the keywords) and end up with lots of ubuntu wiki pages. | 23:12 |
| MarkDude | Waaaaaaaaaaaay better than Fedoras tho. that NEVER works. Everyso often you can find stuff on Ubuntu | 23:12 |
| akk | or forum, maybe not wiki so much | 23:12 |
| seidos | someone just recommended epiphany | 23:12 |
| seidos | i'm going to try it out | 23:12 |
| akk | MarkDude! I've had EIGHT berries fall in the last couple weeks! :) | 23:12 |
| seidos | i guess it uses webkit? | 23:12 |
| MarkDude | Good deal akk | 23:13 |
| crashsystems | doesn't just about everything use webkit, other than firefox? (IE / Opera don't count :D) | 23:13 |
| akk | right, everything but firefox and opera | 23:13 |
| akk | and a few weirdo outliers like dillo | 23:14 |
| MarkDude | I was talking to friend - told her she will be on shortlist of folks able to try the berries in some salsa | 23:14 |
| akk | and lynx/links/w3m :) | 23:14 |
| akk | You can also write your own webkit browser in a page or two of python. :) | 23:14 |
| akk | (okay, so it would take a little more than that if you want bookmarks and good tab handling) | 23:15 |
| MarkDude | Or much more in my case ;) | 23:54 |
| seidos | that would be interesting, to look at a page or 2 of python code | 23:57 |
| seidos | firefox isn't a page or 2, and i suspect epiphany isn't either | 23:57 |
| akk | Install python-webkit, then read /usr/share/doc/python-webkit/examples/browser.py | 23:57 |
| seidos | can it be done with perl :D | 23:57 |
| seidos | i'll check if there's a perl webkit | 23:57 |
| akk | which is 455 lines, so more like 10 pages, but still | 23:57 |
| crashsystems | ugh, perl | 23:57 |
| akk | I'm fairly sure there's a perl webkit too. | 23:57 |
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