[00:52] howdy all! === crashsystems is now known as crash-partyhat [00:58] howdy [01:00] hello [03:24] Is there a schedule for Oneiric somewhere, like when beta2 might be likely to be out? Likely to be much difference between today's build and one next Tuesday? [03:25] Oh, NM, I guess it is out, it just wasn't showing up on the page I was looking at (they make those betas kinda hard to find). [03:35] no kidding [03:35] Get a load of this: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/beta-2/ has no x86 desktop CD images, only amd64 [03:36] but http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/ (which has the exact same title, Oneiric beta 2) does have x86 desktop CD [03:36] both of them say that's the type of build most people will want, even the page that doesn't offer it in the most common architecture [03:38] Actually the first one seems to be a Mac page (all the builds say Mac) though it doesn't say anything about macs in either the title or URL. === crashsystems is now known as crash|party-hat [03:58] well, the only reason for me to install a different version now is for the newer kernels [03:59] i'll likely do an alternate install if i ever reinstall ubuntu, my notebook is about 3 years ago [03:59] lol [03:59] mustn't say the "o" word [03:59] I've got a new laptop coming (my current one has a cracked screen -- tragedy!) [04:00] so I thought I might try oneiric to see if the powersaving bug has improved any [04:00] this is the 2nd screen on this notebook >_< [04:00] Also it gives me something to put on my whizzy multi-live-CD USB stick. :) [04:01] multi-live-cd usb stick? that sounds interesting. [04:01] The cheapest screen for mine was $180 on ebay, used and not perfect. It's a sony, so parts are hard to get. [04:01] ah, yeah. mine was $100 [04:01] i guess sony is like the bmw of notebooks [04:02] the metaphor is probably imperfect :P [04:02] Something like that, anyway. [04:03] Anyway, half the price of a new vaguely comparable machine (that I hope will fix a lot of the problems that old machine had, doubtless substituting new ones :) [04:03] For the multi USB stick I followed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1288604 -- it was super easy, worked like a charm. [04:03] what brand is the new one? [04:03] The new one's a Dell. [04:03] probably not a bad choice [04:03] they are like the Ford of computers [04:03] or Honda [04:03] I've never had one, but d's been happy with his Dell Mini 9. [04:03] hard to say, since parts come from over seas o_o [04:04] i saw an ad for a dell, i think it was in the paper [04:04] it looked like they were trying to make it look like a Mac [04:04] And it looked like the best option from the 4-5 possible choices that met my criteria. [04:04] if i had money, i might've done that [04:05] the only other thing i might consider are gateway and lenovo [04:05] and lenovo is out, since i'm trying to help the u.s. economy, for the trickle down [04:06] Lenovo was on my list, but it was 1.5x the price (for admittedly a much higher spec machine). [04:08] i'd be interested in hearing out it goes. now i'd probably want to buy something used if something happened to this notebook [04:08] it's already hanging together, battery is dead, and ac adapter is soldered together [04:09] My vaio was used from ebay, and it's served me well for 4 years (except it did have some scratches on the screen from the keyboard). [04:09] i had a vaio at an old job. i liked it. [04:09] i think it was a p3 900mhz :) [04:09] 14" [04:09] There are some good laptop deals on ebay -- though for this one, I got a much better deal at Dell's outlet (it's a refurb) than the used ones on ebay. [04:10] I had a p3 700 10" vaio laptop before this Centrino 11" one. [04:10] Sony makes nice hardware but they are quirky, and sometimes hard to repair/get parts for. [04:11] Ironically, the Dell I bought also comes with Linux -- but only in certain configurations, not the ones I wanted, and not the cheap ones from the outlet. [04:18] i never had a problem with the 14" i had, but i didn't have it for very long [04:19] it was a compusa special, anything at the time was petter than the p1-200mhz [04:19] context is everything [04:19] yep! [04:20] i'm still not satisfied with my configuration, i think what i want doesn't exist [04:21] That's always true for me. [04:21] I was really happy with the current Vaio's size, but nobody makes that any more. [04:22] i'm happy with the 13" size, but i should've got a tablet [04:22] The tablet I want doesn't exist either. :) [04:22] it's kind of good that i didn't, because had i did, i would likely have had all kinds of problems [04:23] i saw some "tablets" being used on a samurai jack extras video [04:23] This dell I'm getting has a touchscreen! It'll be interesting to see if I can make it work in Linux. [04:23] i think it was an external monitor or something though [04:23] and they looked expensive [04:23] good luck :) [04:23] Thanks! === crashsystems is now known as crash|party-hat [06:56] kdub_, you get stuck with mas again? === TheTinker is now known as _Faqtotum [16:32] aaditya: pingy [18:43] Is there a way to contact a launchpad user if they didn't provide an email address? [19:05] jdeslip: any luck? [19:06] hello makushimu [19:29] hello seidos! [20:00] MarkDude: pong [20:07] Hey there aaditya how are things going with you? [20:08] * MarkDude wants to maybe meet up with you next week, and see about organizing search for permanent location for GK [20:22] MarkDude: things are going well. [20:22] I'll PM. [20:52] just got a desktop, monitor, router, and 5 usb wireless adapters for 50 bucks! [20:57] Sounds like a deal philipballew [20:57] i wouldn't know what to do with them. i have two desktops sitting under the kitchen table collecting dust [20:59] what i really need are books. i'm going to check out the west hollywood library [21:00] seidos, yeah, my desktop mobo craped out on me, so this guy from the rich part of sd was trying to get rid of them [21:00] what kind of books [21:01] a decent anatomy physiology book would probably be good [21:01] electrical engineering, mechanical engineering [21:01] unfortunately, i suspect i'll have to go to a college library to get these [21:01] i was thinking schematics would be awesome, but i doubt i have the tools to really build anything [21:02] i should probably stick to biology, really [21:02] seidos: what about visualizing find a garage sale that has some cool books at it, it could happen [21:03] if you come here seidos we have all that stuff [21:03] but 100 miles is kinda far [21:04] the bigger problem is food and shelter philipballew :) [21:04] MarkDude: so could winning the lottery :) [21:05] still haven't got that cumberbun for this year's SCaLE either :P [21:05] not sure where i'm going to find that [21:05] well i have meals you can have and a floor :) [21:06] philipballew: i'll take this into consideration :) [21:07] i don't have a sleeping bag, so a floor may not be sufficient. 100mi would take 10+ hours on a bike o_o [21:08] Well I have actually visualized stuff like finding a book. [21:08] And had it happen, we are nottalking world peace [21:09] cumberbun? Epic [21:09] tell us how it happened MarkDude. i'd like to hear the story [21:10] * MarkDude remembers being bored a few years ago - while living in Santa Cruz [21:10] Wanted to read, imagined it being so [21:11] Hoped on my bike, and rode araound randomly [21:11] found some books at a sale that was ending, they were free [21:12] ah, interesting [21:13] i'm not really bored. i might be able to read the books i want at the santa monica college library [21:13] i'll have to go there [21:13] I mean it was a weekend, during the day, I dont think is as likely to happen- in Alaska in winter on tuesday [21:14] hello world [21:14] did the world respond? [21:15] not really. the ping timed out [21:15] T_T [21:16] http://abstrusegoose.com/134 [21:16] People I've known that are younger than me are having children, which makes me feel old. I should't log into Facebook. o_O [21:17] here's what you do [21:17] you stand up [21:17] and spin around several times [21:18] you should feel younger afterwards [21:18] yeah, that would bring back memories... [21:18] reveries, they can make you feel younger or older i suspect [21:19] ah, right, i think if one just remembers without reliving it, then they'll feel old [21:20] i think i'm getting younger though. just the other day i think i turned 15 [21:20] thankfully i'm a mature 15 [21:20] Hmmm [21:20] * MarkDude is hoping to be 15 one day [21:20] I have to reach it before I can return [21:21] i listen to Nirvana now, and it's okay that i'm so horny, because my will is good [21:21] Just dont get a heroin habit, and avoid talking to Courtney Love [21:22] if i can manage not to get fibromyalgia or whatever he had i should be okay [21:24] anyone know when the next mountain view meet up is? [22:37] crashsystems: should be on the website somewhere. did you already check? [22:38] nope [22:38] * crashsystems checks [22:40] i'm investigating html5 stuff, i just disabled flash in mozilla o_o [22:40] so apparently h.264 is evil [22:41] yep , h254 kicks puppies [22:41] I want to play around with using the html5 audio tag as an xss injection [22:42] maybe i do too, i have no idea what an xss is [22:43] cross site scripting. [22:43] https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Cross-site_Scripting_(XSS) [22:43] crashsystems: did you find the list of ubuntu hours? [22:44] nope [22:44] it's kind of funky: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UbuntuHours [22:44] i had to click "projects" to get to it, not "meetings" [22:44] I just had the idea to google it instead of trying to navigate there [22:45] that's kind of slow for me right now :( [22:45] i'm torrenting and using mozilla (abrowser in trisquel) [22:47] if I could get Firefox's tab groups in Chrome, I could die a happy man. [22:48] when was the tab group added? in ff7? [22:48] lol, reminds me of "final fantasy 7" [22:48] ff4 [22:48] cloud and his big @#& sword [22:48] hmmm, i wonder if abrowser has it. [22:48] i should just install the newest firefox and be done with it [22:49] I use Chrome at home, but I couldn't live without Firefox at work [22:51] i stopped using chrome about a week ago [22:51] it's been teaching me to be patient [22:52] lol [22:57] I just wish they hadn't taken away small tabs when they added tab groups. [22:57] I haven't figured out how to use tab groups, and meanwhile without minimum tab size it'll only show a small number of tabs at once. [23:06] i've just been using "app tabs" [23:08] yeah, app tabs do save some space, but still does not solve the kinds of problems I have when I have 80 tabs open [23:09] i don't have that many tabs open anymore, maybe 20 at a time [23:09] 10 app tabs, and 6 other [23:10] Firefox 6 won't show any more than 10 tabs at once. :( [23:10] I often have at least 45 open at work. Fewer at home, but still a decent number [23:10] Make that 9, not even 10. [23:11] Ubuntu does not allow easy search for stuff using its wiki [23:12] I always do general google searches (with ubuntu as one of the keywords) and end up with lots of ubuntu wiki pages. [23:12] Waaaaaaaaaaaay better than Fedoras tho. that NEVER works. Everyso often you can find stuff on Ubuntu [23:12] or forum, maybe not wiki so much [23:12] someone just recommended epiphany [23:12] i'm going to try it out [23:12] MarkDude! I've had EIGHT berries fall in the last couple weeks! :) [23:12] i guess it uses webkit? [23:13] Good deal akk [23:13] doesn't just about everything use webkit, other than firefox? (IE / Opera don't count :D) [23:13] right, everything but firefox and opera [23:14] and a few weirdo outliers like dillo [23:14] I was talking to friend - told her she will be on shortlist of folks able to try the berries in some salsa [23:14] and lynx/links/w3m :) [23:14] You can also write your own webkit browser in a page or two of python. :) [23:15] (okay, so it would take a little more than that if you want bookmarks and good tab handling) [23:54] Or much more in my case ;) [23:57] that would be interesting, to look at a page or 2 of python code [23:57] firefox isn't a page or 2, and i suspect epiphany isn't either [23:57] Install python-webkit, then read /usr/share/doc/python-webkit/examples/browser.py [23:57] can it be done with perl :D [23:57] i'll check if there's a perl webkit [23:57] which is 455 lines, so more like 10 pages, but still [23:57] ugh, perl [23:57] I'm fairly sure there's a perl webkit too.