| cyberanger | how's it going everyone? | 00:32 |
|---|---|---|
| binarymutant | good, u? | 00:35 |
| cyberanger | intresting | 00:36 |
| cyberanger | typing at 70MPH, bumping all over the car on indiania interstate | 00:36 |
| cyberanger | a challenge compared to the last trip (better shocks in a van, better roads to arkansas) | 00:37 |
| binarymutant | living dangerously aye | 00:37 |
| cyberanger | binarymutant: didn't say I was driving too, lol | 00:37 |
| binarymutant | ah, thought it was implied lol | 00:37 |
| binarymutant | well not so dangerous then :D | 00:38 |
| cyberanger | no, I'll drive the way back I bet, but not type & drive | 00:38 |
| cyberanger | me & my folks, so plenty of driving & sleeping 7 typing for all | 00:38 |
| binarymutant | kings island? | 00:39 |
| binarymutant | wait thats ohio not indiana | 00:39 |
| cyberanger | just typing is the second hardest (driving to chicago, it'll be intresting) | 00:39 |
| binarymutant | big city | 00:40 |
| cyberanger | yep, mass transit and suburbs thank goodness | 00:41 |
| cyberanger | but gotta pick up my brother at O'Hare, and drive through chicago to get to the suburbs | 00:41 |
| cyberanger | then on monday 7 tuesday I'll be back in your area binarymutant | 00:43 |
| cyberanger | after that, my own place | 00:43 |
| cyberanger | short trip compared to the usual | 00:43 |
| binarymutant | wow that's a crazy quick trip | 00:43 |
| cyberanger | yeah, if I had more then green dust in my wallet, i'd buy an amtrak ticket to Erie, PA, Buffalo, NY Rochester, NY | 00:44 |
| cyberanger | then fly back | 00:44 |
| cyberanger | maybe spend a loonie or two in ontario | 00:45 |
| cyberanger | make it a week or two trip | 00:45 |
| binarymutant | isn't that like a 20 hour drive? | 00:45 |
| cyberanger | (the joke is, part of the short trip is trying to get this job, then I'll have money, but no time) | 00:46 |
| cyberanger | binarymutant: to chicago | 00:46 |
| cyberanger | ? | 00:46 |
| binarymutant | ya | 00:46 |
| cyberanger | your door, to chicago, and back at your door is 20 hours, prior to any delays (suchh as the tolls, rush hour, and stops for food 7 gas) | 00:47 |
| cyberanger | one way is 10 | 00:47 |
| cyberanger | but that's unrealistic | 00:47 |
| binarymutant | that's good stamina, I couldn't do it | 00:48 |
| binarymutant | ((I think I'm going to fly to N.Carolina lol)) | 00:48 |
| cyberanger | I did 24 hours once, split in half, but I didn't stop much | 00:48 |
| cyberanger | binarymutant: where to NC | 00:49 |
| binarymutant | Raleigh | 00:49 |
| * cyberanger points out US 129 & 10 minutes your in NC | 00:49 | |
| binarymutant | yeah I know | 00:49 |
| binarymutant | <- lazy :D | 00:49 |
| cyberanger | binarymutant: ah, that's more reasonable for a flight | 00:49 |
| cyberanger | other side of charolette, I'd see doing that | 00:49 |
| binarymutant | it's only like a 6 hour drive, but idk I hate driving | 00:50 |
| binarymutant | drove to atlanta once and vowed I'd never drive that far again :D | 00:50 |
| cyberanger | binarymutant: your not on the interstate there, asheville is more like 4 hours from there | 00:51 |
| cyberanger | shorter on maps, but again, you do stop for fuel | 00:51 |
| cyberanger | toss in 2 hours to charolette, same logic | 00:51 |
| cyberanger | maybe an hour the rest of the way (I can't comment on that last leg, not having done it) | 00:52 |
| cyberanger | but I think it's closer to 8 hours when you actuallly do it | 00:52 |
| cyberanger | unless you go by a truckers routine | 00:52 |
| binarymutant | that's too long | 00:53 |
| binarymutant | to drive | 00:53 |
| cyberanger | count your petrol to a drop, food in the truck, not in the store, that'd shave off some of that | 00:53 |
| * cyberanger does that one, leaves some for issues, but I count to a drop and limit my stops | 00:54 | |
| * binarymutant refuses to drive anywhere | 00:55 | |
| * cyberanger wonders if that goes for sitting as a passenger | 00:58 | |
| binarymutant | planes > trains > automobiles | 00:59 |
| cyberanger | binarymutant: automobiles > buses | 01:01 |
| binarymutant | yes | 01:01 |
| binarymutant | no buses | 01:01 |
| binarymutant | well local bus is fine (like KAT) | 01:02 |
| binarymutant | no greyhound | 01:02 |
| cyberanger | well, I might have an opinion on local here & there, dunno cat (as a rider) to comment | 01:04 |
| binarymutant | knoxville's bus, it's pretty decent | 01:05 |
| binarymutant | I have nothing to compare it to though :/ | 01:05 |
| cyberanger | greyhound is useful, sometimes beats amtrak, sometimes amtrak beats greyhound | 01:05 |
| binarymutant | urgh idk | 01:06 |
| cyberanger | both are a mess, planes are their own, TSA, Delta, ATL, oh boy | 01:06 |
| cyberanger | it's a ton of give & take to sort them all | 01:06 |
| binarymutant | it's easy to get used to | 01:07 |
| binarymutant | you get pat down, then treated very well after that with planes | 01:07 |
| cyberanger | KAT is good I hear, just not ridden it, I've got DART (dallas) EMTA (Erie, PA) CARTA (Chattanooga) | 01:08 |
| cyberanger | binarymutant: yeah, with airports, it's never anything in the air, it's on the ground | 01:08 |
| binarymutant | brb | 01:08 |
| cyberanger | local transit in Rochester, NY is the one awkard one, due to route layouts, didn't like that | 01:09 |
| binarymutant | was it subway? | 01:15 |
| binarymutant | NY I always think subway | 01:15 |
| cyberanger | no, bus based | 01:16 |
| binarymutant | ah | 01:16 |
| cyberanger | not a tram, skytrain, subway, tube "the el" | 01:16 |
| binarymutant | well it's probably huge compared to Knoxville | 01:16 |
| cyberanger | or many names for the tracks | 01:17 |
| binarymutant | Knoxville doesn't even cover all of knoxville, very few routes | 01:17 |
| cyberanger | looking at KaT's maps to the rochester one, it hard to say | 01:17 |
| cyberanger | well, rochester covers downtown, then it's spoke on a wheel | 01:18 |
| binarymutant | ? spoke on a wheel ? | 01:18 |
| binarymutant | bicycle? | 01:18 |
| cyberanger | yeah, look at a bycycle wheel, imagine everything transfers downtown | 01:19 |
| cyberanger | so to go from RIT to the airport (same end of town) | 01:19 |
| cyberanger | you tack on an hour (maybe an hour is too much, but fair for the 5 minute taxi drive, vs a bus it is somewhere near that bad) | 01:19 |
| cyberanger | amtrak was 2 hours late, got to springfeild, MA 4 hours late | 01:20 |
| binarymutant | but trains are just fun to be on :D | 01:20 |
| cyberanger | another hard time with rochester transit ^^ | 01:20 |
| cyberanger | binarymutant: true, but if you want to rival buses & planes, not cool | 01:21 |
| cyberanger | rochester to toronto used to be 3 hours by ferry | 01:21 |
| binarymutant | ah I've never been on a ferry before | 01:21 |
| binarymutant | that would be fun too | 01:21 |
| cyberanger | now it's 5 hours by car, should be nearly that by train, and bus is about that | 01:21 |
| cyberanger | but trains having that issue, and once a day too (once out, once in) | 01:22 |
| binarymutant | true | 01:22 |
| binarymutant | I guess I rate it based on the 'fun' factor instead of the efficient factor | 01:22 |
| cyberanger | flights there take longer for security, customs (which isn't much to canada) | 01:22 |
| cyberanger | oh, and there is nothing wrong with that ( I said I'd like to take the lake shore limited from chicago to rochester (with two stops) so I get that) | 01:23 |
| binarymutant | lake shore limited? | 01:24 |
| cyberanger | amtrak line | 01:24 |
| binarymutant | ah | 01:24 |
| cyberanger | but even when the airlines are taxed worse than tobacco & booze (and gas) | 01:25 |
| binarymutant | the view is worth it :D | 01:25 |
| cyberanger | the trains and buses can't fix their issues and become viable on an economical level | 01:25 |
| cyberanger | granted, we subsidize air travel way too much, and buses have an indirect subsidy of no track usage fees or other means to repair tracks | 01:26 |
| cyberanger | (or in the buses case, roads) | 01:27 |
| cyberanger | their tickets match amtrak, with less fees | 01:27 |
| cyberanger | i can see tourist wanting a view, i can't see the businessman from chicago to nyc doing that | 01:27 |
| binarymutant | true | 01:28 |
| cyberanger | when amtrak could currently beat airfare in quality, first class being worth something on rail | 01:28 |
| cyberanger | for a lot less | 01:28 |
| cyberanger | and with security lines & such accounted for (and being closer to downtown on a train then bus) | 01:29 |
| cyberanger | it'd be a time competitor | 01:29 |
| cyberanger | I want trains brought back to the large scale they were, triple mass transit programs with it | 01:30 |
| binarymutant | that would be fun | 01:30 |
| cyberanger | not ditch the car, but in a sense, render it a luxury than a necessity for most americans | 01:30 |
| binarymutant | yes like every where else in the world | 01:30 |
| cyberanger | if we did that, I guantree a ticket from chicago to seattle would be a hundred to a hundred fifty | 01:31 |
| binarymutant | mass transit rules | 01:31 |
| cyberanger | compared to acutally being worse than airfare at 500 something | 01:32 |
| binarymutant | the only problem with trains is that any house a few miles near the tracks lose value :/ | 01:32 |
| cyberanger | vs just under 500 for airfare, and a much much shorter trip | 01:33 |
| binarymutant | and small cities probably wouldn't have access to them | 01:33 |
| binarymutant | stoopid connection | 01:34 |
| cyberanger | I think that can change | 01:37 |
| binarymutant | the connection getting lost randomly? Or realistate value? | 01:38 |
| cyberanger | the value deal is seen as bad here now, if you mix local, interurban & freight on the same lines efficently | 01:38 |
| cyberanger | it'll be seen as a booster | 01:38 |
| cyberanger | and perception of rail as an issue is less so than an airport | 01:38 |
| binarymutant | that's true, planes are very loud | 01:39 |
| cyberanger | noise, pollution issues | 01:39 |
| binarymutant | but still no one wants to live next to a train track | 01:39 |
| binarymutant | unless those bullet trains are quiet | 01:39 |
| cyberanger | esp the maglev | 01:40 |
| cyberanger | binarymutant: if it's new track, most designated no freight,they are much quieter than amtrak | 01:44 |
| cyberanger | you should see DART and the el | 01:45 |
| cyberanger | they aren't that loud | 01:45 |
| binarymutant | that's cool | 01:45 |
| binarymutant | never seen the new trains | 01:45 |
| cyberanger | and actually, they're noiser than a maglev | 01:45 |
| binarymutant | is maglev the bullet train? | 01:46 |
| cyberanger | a step up | 01:46 |
| binarymutant | ah cool | 01:46 |
| cyberanger | magnetic levetation, no friction on the tracks | 01:46 |
| binarymutant | we need that on roads :D | 01:47 |
| cyberanger | whearas a bullet is more like a ferrei sports car, aerodynamics meant for the spee, with an engine to get it that fast | 01:47 |
| binarymutant | ah | 01:47 |
| cyberanger | that's summing up a bullet too much, but that is a general measurement between the two | 01:48 |
| cyberanger | and with more freight on tracks, less road wreaks | 01:48 |
| cyberanger | less gas spent on smaller shipments | 01:49 |
| binarymutant | very true | 01:50 |
| cyberanger | and that'll shift the value issues some, get too close and there is a foundation concern, noise & vibration, just like airports | 01:50 |
| cyberanger | but that applies for interstates, airports, every mode of transit really | 01:51 |
| cyberanger | the hard pard is airports buy so much more land around them, that it's less of an issue | 01:51 |
| cyberanger | for the amount of traffic, few people close enough to notice, too many see the travel outweighing the concerns | 01:52 |
| cyberanger | for trains, the concerns are smaller, while it would affect more people, it would affect more in good ways too | 01:53 |
| cyberanger | it'd be hard to give up driving for me, but I could easily trade it for an effective, cheape, privacy enhanced method | 01:54 |
| binarymutant | me too. It's a shame there arent any passenger trains around me | 01:56 |
| binarymutant | 500 channels and nothing on :/ | 01:58 |
| binarymutant | Miguel de Icaza needs to get over the linux on the desktop idea, it's annoying. 'Only 10 great apps' come on, he probably is only counting mono apps | 02:25 |
| cyberanger | binarymutant: didn't think irc was that small | 02:31 |
| binarymutant | ? | 02:32 |
| binarymutant | cyberanger: what do you mean? | 02:32 |
| cyberanger | 500 channels and nothing on :-/ | 02:33 |
| cyberanger | ;-) | 02:33 |
| binarymutant | lol | 02:33 |
| binarymutant | I decided to catch up on drwho | 02:42 |
| binarymutant | since nothing else was on | 02:42 |
| binarymutant | while browsing the Planets | 02:42 |
| binarymutant | fsf directory is back, they should realize that freshmeat/sourceforge/lgdb/etc. are sooo much better | 02:50 |
| binarymutant | http://directory.fsf.org | 02:50 |
| cyberanger | github | 02:56 |
| cyberanger | launchpad's bzr, yep | 02:56 |
| binarymutant | freshmeat includes pics | 02:57 |
| cyberanger | don't need many pictures for a router | 02:57 |
| binarymutant | games and other stuff though | 02:58 |
| cyberanger | (my project is an expermental router, only exp with all that0 | 02:58 |
| cyberanger | finally the bumping is done, still can't type on the netbook | 02:58 |
| cyberanger | used to a fuller keypad | 02:58 |
| binarymutant | so it's a base linux system with iptables? | 02:59 |
| cyberanger | yep | 03:03 |
| cyberanger | bind9, dhcpd, squid | 03:05 |
| cyberanger | tweaks for sneakernet approaches | 03:05 |
| binarymutant | that's cool | 03:05 |
| binarymutant | I need a project | 03:05 |
| cyberanger | yeah, developing world & disaster relief focus | 03:06 |
| cyberanger | and if you need one, perhaps ubottutn will forgive you | 03:07 |
| binarymutant | :P | 03:07 |
| * cyberanger couldn't resist | 03:10 | |
| * cyberanger imagines the bot returning and saying " binarymutant: I said I needed a nap, but wow, how long are your naps" | 03:11 | |
| binarymutant | it's dead in it's repo like most other software lol | 03:13 |
| cyberanger | binarymutant: yeah, sad thing is, my project is well behind what I expected | 03:13 |
| cyberanger | something about unexpected time issues & cash flow problems (I.E. broke & looking for work) slows it down | 03:14 |
| cyberanger | the joke is soon going to be having that issue resolved, and no time to work on this while working | 03:15 |
| cyberanger | projects are nice, but I think I'll keep to weekend projects for awhile (and finish this slowly, but from now on, careful what I ask for) | 03:15 |
| binarymutant | just find a way to automate it :D | 03:17 |
| cyberanger | automate which one ;-) | 03:18 |
| binarymutant | the router | 03:19 |
| cyberanger | but that's no fun | 03:23 |
| cyberanger | (well, simplifing the router for users yes, taking the development from me, no) | 03:23 |
| cyberanger | binarymutant: you don't have any projects | 03:55 |
| cyberanger | not even a simple try a new distro | 03:55 |
| Unit193 | That's a lot of scrollup | 04:06 |
| cyberanger | Unit193: lol | 04:10 |
| Unit193 | I didn't read it all, that's just a bit long for that | 04:11 |
| cyberanger | binarymutant: think that train bit is worthy a blog postt | 04:11 |
| Unit193 | cyberanger: /wi PerfM | 04:11 |
| binarymutant | cyberanger: no project :/ | 04:16 |
| binarymutant | cyberanger: and maybe :D | 04:16 |
| cyberanger | binarymutant: well, think I'm going to rewrite it into one | 04:18 |
| cyberanger | when I get a chance (which means, who knows) | 04:19 |
| binarymutant | :D | 04:19 |
| cyberanger | I'll say this, public transportation beats parking in chattanooga | 04:28 |
| cyberanger | I park and ride for trips I can plan that in (most) | 04:29 |
| cyberanger | if it's not outskirts anyways | 04:29 |
| cyberanger | cheaper too | 04:29 |
| cyberanger | oh dear, curse my curousity & google, this looks like a cool long term project | 04:31 |
| cyberanger | https://www.cgran.org/wiki/gr-air-modes | 04:31 |
| binarymutant | that's pretty cool, plane tracker | 04:33 |
| cyberanger | only one module of Gnu Radio, but yeah | 04:33 |
| cyberanger | actually it's more akin to secondary radar than a tracker | 04:34 |
| binarymutant | okay, wtf is going on here? Youtube leaves nasty artifacts all over my root window. Vimeo doesnt | 04:35 |
| binarymutant | hulu leaves artifacts too | 04:36 |
| cyberanger | binarymutant: full screen for either | 04:37 |
| binarymutant | either | 04:38 |
| binarymutant | small screen | 04:38 |
| binarymutant | vimeo just blew my mind | 04:38 |
| cyberanger | hrm | 04:39 |
| binarymutant | html5 video I guess | 04:39 |
| binarymutant | what's another html5 site? | 04:40 |
| cyberanger | yeah, and your UA play a role? | 04:40 |
| cyberanger | pandora is now | 04:40 |
| binarymutant | ua? | 04:41 |
| cyberanger | user agent | 04:42 |
| binarymutant | omg flash is horrid, I want html5 on youtube | 04:42 |
| binarymutant | cyberanger: no it doesn't | 04:42 |
| cyberanger | cause you did tweak it | 04:42 |
| binarymutant | html5 video works amazing and flash sucks | 04:42 |
| cyberanger | thinking maybe you got presented something different for it | 04:42 |
| cyberanger | yep, that sounds right | 04:42 |
| Unit193 | Pandora still uses flash | 04:43 |
| cyberanger | the only thing adobe has yet to code is a vacum, becuase coding a vacum that sucks isn't a challenge | 04:44 |
| cyberanger | Unit193: what browser? | 04:44 |
| Unit193 | binarymutant: http://www.youtube.com/html5 | 04:44 |
| cyberanger | they have html5 if your browser supports it (which is decided by the User agent string) | 04:44 |
| Unit193 | cyberanger: I have FF9 now | 04:45 |
| cyberanger | Unit193: that doesn't cover every video unfortunately | 04:45 |
| cyberanger | Unit193: tried chrome and pandora? | 04:45 |
| Unit193 | Chromium or Chome? | 04:45 |
| Unit193 | And no | 04:45 |
| Unit193 | cyberanger: The youtube one still will catch some and Pandora isn't *fully* html5, just mostly | 04:47 |
| cyberanger | Unit193: in this context, not sure it matters | 04:48 |
| binarymutant | gah I can't trick youtube into html5 | 04:52 |
| binarymutant | http://youtube.com/html5 fails no matter what user agent I use | 04:54 |
| binarymutant | js and ua checking makes me smoke brb | 05:00 |
| cyberanger | lol, dirty trick there | 05:02 |
| cyberanger | interrogating the browser via javascript | 05:03 |
| binarymutant | ya | 05:06 |
| binarymutant | it's making me mad | 05:06 |
| binarymutant | mad enough to send a "fist-shaking" email to youtube with the subject line "My browser works!" | 05:07 |
| Unit193 | I need to find a video that uses it >.< | 05:07 |
| binarymutant | youtube.com/html5 || vimeo.com || html5video.org | 05:08 |
| Unit193 | Yes, need to find a YouTube video that has it enabled | 05:09 |
| Unit193 | (Signed up already) | 05:09 |
| binarymutant | are they all not html5? | 05:09 |
| Unit193 | This is a good one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYV-qYeWPkk | 05:10 |
| binarymutant | it's flash for me :/ | 05:10 |
| cyberanger | binarymutant: no, hence the javascript check | 05:10 |
| cyberanger | it's browser codec dependant | 05:11 |
| binarymutant | monty python is hilarious (old though) | 05:11 |
| Unit193 | I don't care that it's old, it's great | 05:11 |
| binarymutant | Lineham is the present! | 05:12 |
| binarymutant | ...not IT Crowd fans? | 05:14 |
| Unit193 | Not really | 05:15 |
| binarymutant | :( | 05:15 |
| Unit193 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-g I'll stop after this, but they are so good | 05:16 |
| cyberanger | binarymutant: a fan | 05:16 |
| cyberanger | but don't follow like I did | 05:16 |
| binarymutant | Graham Lineham is awesome (creator) | 05:17 |
| binarymutant | I can't watch those youtube clips :( | 05:17 |
| binarymutant | and I can't take a screenshot of the messed up flash artifacts :/ | 05:18 |
| Unit193 | It's less than 60F in here | 05:20 |
| binarymutant | whoa. | 05:20 |
| binarymutant | cold | 05:21 |
| Unit193 | Just under, not much | 05:21 |
| binarymutant | too cold | 05:21 |
| binarymutant | youtube-dl is my only hope | 05:23 |
| binarymutant | 'she's a witch!' | 05:26 |
| cyberanger | binarymutant: that's a good scene | 05:27 |
| cyberanger | now go away or I will taunt you a second time | 05:28 |
| binarymutant | lols | 05:28 |
| binarymutant | now google reader is saying i'm unsupported. Maybe i'm using the wrong safari user-agent | 05:33 |
| cyberanger | binarymutant: or just an old or incorrect one | 05:34 |
| cyberanger | if it isn't new & right, it'll fail | 05:35 |
| binarymutant | Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1) AppleWebKit/535.2 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/15.0.872.0 Safari/535.2 | 05:36 |
| binarymutant | still failed | 05:36 |
| binarymutant | prolly the js is what's making it fail | 05:37 |
| cyberanger | binarymutant: windows, javascript will say linux | 05:37 |
| cyberanger | so if they error check with the other, that'll do it too | 05:38 |
| binarymutant | hmm. | 05:38 |
| Unit193 | Mine Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:9.0a2) Gecko/20110929 Firefox/9.0a2 | 05:38 |
| binarymutant | ^^ failed too | 05:40 |
| binarymutant | :( oh well | 05:40 |
| Unit193 | What page are you looking at? The html5 page says I'm compatible | 05:40 |
| binarymutant | youtube.com/html5 | 05:40 |
| binarymutant | http://tinypic.com/m/f1mlo9/2 | 05:43 |
| Unit193 | http://i56.tinypic.com/2duys0n.png | 05:47 |
| binarymutant | that is so weird | 05:49 |
| binarymutant | oh well, I'll just download youtube vids | 05:50 |
| Unit193 | I still need to find them on there though :P | 05:50 |
| binarymutant | does flash work right for you ? | 05:51 |
| binarymutant | what version? | 05:52 |
| binarymutant | <- 10.3.183 | 05:52 |
| Unit193 | 10.3.183.10 | 05:52 |
| binarymutant | :/ gah I might just have to ditch webkit-gtk | 05:53 |
| binarymutant | firefox is 77.4Mb though | 05:54 |
| Unit193 | Remember, I'm not running normal so it might be a tad different | 05:58 |
| binarymutant | what are you using? | 06:00 |
| Unit193 | 7 just came out and I just got upgraded to 9 | 06:03 |
| binarymutant | firefox 9? | 06:05 |
| binarymutant | that's pretty cool | 06:05 |
| Unit193 | Catching up on overloaded RSS feeds :P | 06:15 |
| Unit193 | No, couldn't be! http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2011/09/29/ok-lets-see-what-this-doctor-who-hullabaloo-is-all-about-comics/ | 06:23 |
| binarymutant | lol | 06:24 |
| Unit193 | Odd name, but great site | 06:24 |
| Unit193 | And the coldness is hitting my fingers | 06:24 |
| binarymutant | I used to follow geeksaresexy too, but I thought kotaku was a better replacement | 06:25 |
| Unit193 | Hmmm... I'll google, but I like the amount they put out, too much will drive me crazy | 06:26 |
| Unit193 | And I'll assume you've seen http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2011/09/30/tick-tock-goes-the-clock-doctor-who-finale-tomorrow/ | 06:27 |
| binarymutant | ah spoilers | 06:27 |
| Unit193 | Heh, yep. Hate those (But I'll admit, I watched it for once) | 06:28 |
| binarymutant | it's funny that in the comic strip above ^^ he's watching it on his pc | 06:30 |
| Unit193 | No keyboard/mouse, maybe he sits really close to the TV ;) | 06:31 |
| Unit193 | There are other ways to watch it? | 06:31 |
| binarymutant | bbc america | 06:32 |
| binarymutant | I think I watched season 4 on tv | 06:32 |
| * Unit193 does at times wish he had cable | 06:32 | |
| binarymutant | nah it's a waste | 06:32 |
| Unit193 | For the most part, oh yes | 06:33 |
| cyberanger | it's a waste of perfectly good coax | 06:39 |
| binarymutant | :D lol | 06:39 |
| cyberanger | if i want lots and lots of junk coming into my home, it'll be on fibre optic cable | 06:40 |
| cyberanger | there's plenty of extra bandwidth there | 06:40 |
| binarymutant | 70$ in Cali | 06:41 |
| * cyberanger can't find the fibre line, goes back to his book | 06:41 | |
| * Unit193 wonders if the internet there is less costly | 06:41 | |
| binarymutant | 70$ fiber optic, uh yeah 'less costly' bc that's what I pay for 2mb cable | 06:42 |
| cyberanger | it seems to be cheaper here in chicago | 06:42 |
| binarymutant | more competition the better | 06:43 |
| Unit193 | "There" is where cyberanger lives | 06:43 |
| binarymutant | :/ heh sry | 06:43 |
| cyberanger | not to metion the datacenters and financial sector demanding it | 06:44 |
| binarymutant | too bad amazon doesn't demand it for Cleveland | 06:44 |
| cyberanger | Unit193: no, just in town for the weekend, have ties up here, and when job hunting | 06:44 |
| cyberanger | binarymutant: even worse, that plant isn't really in cleveland | 06:45 |
| cyberanger | it's in charelston | 06:45 |
| binarymutant | nc? | 06:45 |
| cyberanger | tn | 06:45 |
| binarymutant | ah neverheard | 06:45 |
| binarymutant | well they should bring good internet to TN is all i'm saying | 06:46 |
| cyberanger | so even if they demand it, they will drag that cable from chattanooga benifiting few in cleveland, past cleveland for 15 miles to charelston | 06:46 |
| binarymutant | they don't pay tax after all | 06:46 |
| cyberanger | I think amazon will soon though | 06:46 |
| cyberanger | actually, I think the deal was merely customers sales tax | 06:47 |
| binarymutant | idk, they said they would move before paying tax. ( I don't have a problem with it, just want good net in tn ) | 06:47 |
| cyberanger | and cleveland & charleston are trying to annex their way to amazon | 06:47 |
| binarymutant | lol @ toilet motorcycle | 06:48 |
| binarymutant | 2 < cyberanger> it seems to be cheaper here in chicago | 06:49 |
| binarymutant | 02:43 < binarymutant> more competition the better | 06:49 |
| binarymutant | gah | 06:49 |
| binarymutant | http://boingboing.net/2011/09/30/motorized-tricycle-that-runs-on-human-poo.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+boingboing%2FiBag+%28Boing+Boing%29 {there} | 06:50 |
| cyberanger | binarymutant: yeah, trying to do my homework on where to place a server or two, and researching things | 06:50 |
| cyberanger | and it does, unfortunate for us | 06:50 |
| binarymutant | cloud is pretty cheap | 06:51 |
| binarymutant | (so I've heard) | 06:51 |
| cyberanger | except it's not colocated | 06:52 |
| cyberanger | I own the server | 06:52 |
| Unit193 | Japan, who would have guessed? And looks like you should be nude in public | 06:52 |
| binarymutant | they're very open over there :P | 06:55 |
| binarymutant | cyberanger: I don't think it really matters where you put your server, unless your getting a million hits a second | 06:55 |
| cyberanger | binarymutant: or high bandwidth and cap issues | 06:56 |
| cyberanger | distrubiting isos | 06:56 |
| binarymutant | caps? oh ya | 06:57 |
| cyberanger | well, charter has a cap | 06:57 |
| binarymutant | so does everyone now | 06:58 |
| binarymutant | buy business tier | 06:58 |
| cyberanger | read the acceptable use policy, it;s one I break | 06:58 |
| cyberanger | 250 gb business | 06:58 |
| cyberanger | and bandwidth | 06:58 |
| cyberanger | holding a tb in the mirror easily | 06:58 |
| cyberanger | plus distributing swissknife router (when it's finally done) | 06:59 |
| cyberanger | it's going to have to be a dc job | 06:59 |
| binarymutant | these businesses always hide their caps in the hardest spots to find.... | 07:00 |
| binarymutant | uh wtf 8. NO “HACKING" | 07:01 |
| binarymutant | on Charter tos | 07:01 |
| binarymutant | [..] packet sniffers or network probing tools.[...] | 07:01 |
| binarymutant | urrgh cant read TOS anymore | 07:03 |
| cyberanger | binarymutant: yeah, an odd one that thethey are vauge on ( but legit ethical use i've done they ignore) | 07:06 |
| binarymutant | that was from their commercial tos, saying don't use nmap, and don't let anyone. How are is the admin's supposed to work?? | 07:11 |
| cyberanger | by discreetly disobeying that | 07:15 |
| Unit193 | 18:49 < cyberanger> Unit193: have you not heard of networked audio? |||| Using PulseAudio? | 08:57 |
| cyberanger | Unit193: reminding me of something I said, or.... | 09:21 |
| Unit193 | cyberanger: Reminding and asking | 09:21 |
| cyberanger | and what are the odds of xkcd posting this comment the day I check into one | 09:22 |
| cyberanger | Unit193: hang on | 09:24 |
| Unit193 | Alrighty, just asking if that's what you used | 09:25 |
| cyberanger | no, well, I don't use networked audio either | 09:25 |
| Unit193 | Ah | 09:26 |
| cyberanger | I've done it, but just a rare need for that in a studio apartment | 09:26 |
| Unit193 | I think it could be very useful | 09:26 |
| cyberanger | too small for audio anyhow, but network it | 09:26 |
| cyberanger | Unit193: http://goo.gl/Agpya | 09:27 |
| cyberanger | Unit193: http://goo.gl/AgPya | 09:28 |
| cyberanger | Unit193: not saying that's how I did it (I think I did something involving config files knowing me) | 09:29 |
| cyberanger | but that should work, same result | 09:29 |
| Unit193 | Heh, as long as it doesn't need a reboot, I'll be good :P | 09:30 |
| cyberanger | Unit193: live disc/ | 09:31 |
| cyberanger | Unit193: live disc? | 09:31 |
| Unit193 | No, just buggy X and when it gets running, do NOT reboot! It can have great uptimes, or less than a day to a frozen X | 09:32 |
| cyberanger | Unit193: can you not restart xorg or fallback to a terminal and restart gdm | 09:36 |
| Unit193 | I can not | 09:36 |
| cyberanger | that's fun | 09:41 |
| Unit193 | Aye | 09:42 |
| Unit193 | Check status window ;) | 09:42 |
| binarymutant | wowza: | 10:28 |
| binarymutant | echo 'http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyKS_a-EA4M&feature=feedrec_grec_index' | clive --stream-exec="mplayer -really-quiet %i" -s | 10:28 |
| binarymutant | no more flash for me :D | 10:29 |
| * cyberanger is rocking debian testing | 16:19 | |
| wrst | cool cyberanger | 16:35 |
| cyberanger | wrst: it's just that much nicer to have a rolling release | 17:20 |
| cyberanger | wrst: and with my debian focus, this is the best I'll get in that focus | 17:21 |
| wrst | cyberanger: you just need to move to arch and forget it :) | 17:32 |
| cyberanger | wrst: can't do that, I'd already love to forget centos, but that's not an option | 17:33 |
| wrst | for personal "desktop" like use I find arch hard to be | 17:33 |
| wrst | at | 17:33 |
| cyberanger | wrst: personal or average? | 17:34 |
| wrst | well cyberanger we aren't average :) | 17:34 |
| cyberanger | wrst: true, but my desktops are part server | 17:35 |
| wrst | i run a "server" and a laptop at home with the occasional desktop use when i need the horsepower | 17:39 |
| cyberanger | wrst: i run a server, but all my machines have daemons on them | 19:50 |
| cyberanger | squid proxy on all | 19:50 |
| cyberanger | keep others installed, configured, but off until needed | 19:51 |
| cyberanger | like ssh | 19:51 |
| cyberanger | so it's kinda grab the next rig and backup data and done | 19:51 |
| Unit193 | Awesome! New Doctor Who is out! | 20:22 |
| Unit193 | binarymutant: Welcome back! (Back to afs now) | 21:12 |
| binarymutant | lol, I figured out how to destroy youtube.com/html5 - noscript | 21:22 |
| wrst | howdy folks :) | 21:50 |
| Unit193 | wrst: Hello | 21:51 |
| Unit193 | Missed the 30 cutoff | 21:51 |
| wrst | hey Unit193 | 21:51 |
| wrst | i missed what? :) | 21:51 |
| Unit193 | I did | 21:51 |
| Unit193 | I will say, the new Doctor Who was great!! | 21:52 |
| wrst | not a watcher Unit193 with a 6 month old regular tv watching is not so easy :) | 22:01 |
| Unit193 | Awww... That's a darn good one | 22:02 |
| Unit193 | But I see how you would have problems | 22:02 |
| wrst | ha ha yes we just went and purchased a dvd player for her though for the back seat | 22:05 |
| Unit193 | Isn't that young though? | 22:06 |
| wrst | probably so but she knows how to do some basic things with kid games on the wife's ipad | 22:19 |
| binarymutant | ok I now have a command to run on youtube but need to figure out a way to grab the uri of the youtube video and run it... | 23:39 |
| Juzzy | there's only 21309128 tools to steal youtube | 23:49 |
| Juzzy | surely somoene has a snagger for you | 23:49 |
| Unit193 | I just use FF and DownloadHelper, but YouTube is one of the ones that actually work for a change :P | 23:50 |
| cyberanger | Juzzy: and that's not counting those that run on the local machine | 23:53 |
| cyberanger | wrst: as long as you still catch the goood hockey games | 23:54 |
| binarymutant | no I have clive to grab the youtube video, but I want to grab the uri and play it with mplayer in my browser | 23:55 |
| binarymutant | hands free youtube->mplayer playing | 23:56 |
| binarymutant | but of course my programming skills are destroying my browser :/ | 23:57 |
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