[00:00] <DanielSenat> But that could mess things up ...?
[00:00] <GridCube> [1111111][22222][3333] >> [1111111][222]XX[3333] >> [1111111][222][333333]
[00:00] <GridCube> no not really, just make it smaller, thats why i told you to be careful
[00:01] <DanielSenat> But i can't touch the first part, it's locked
[00:02] <GridCube> DanielSenat, yes, that can happen, you need to umount it first :P
[00:02] <GridCube> all can be done from gparted
[00:02] <DanielSenat> Aha, so how?
[00:03] <DanielSenat> Ok cool brb
[00:04] <DanielSenat> GridCube, Could'nt
[00:04] <GridCube> oh
[00:05] <GridCube> then yes, you need to boot from a live cd
[00:05] <GridCube> if you reaaaaaaaaally want
[00:05] <DanielSenat> OK thank's
[00:05] <DanielSenat> I just have some problem with hibernate and sleep
[00:06] <DanielSenat> But, i guess it doesn't really is that big of a deal..
[00:07] <GridCube> DanielSenat, read the !swap examples
[00:07] <GridCube> it says something about hibernate
[00:07] <DanielSenat> Ok
[00:12] <DanielSenat> GridCube, "gksu gedit /etc/default/grub & to pull up the boot loader configuration" doesn't give me anything just the numbers [1] 2861
[00:14] <GridCube> oh, i don't know what any of those things mean
[00:15] <DanielSenat> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq from this page..
[00:21] <GridCube> oh
[00:21] <GridCube> DanielSenat, do you have installed gedit?
[00:21] <GridCube> its not the default editor for xubuntu
[00:21] <GridCube> change that to mousepad or leafpad
[00:23] <DanielSenat> ok
[00:23] <DanielSenat> cool!
[00:25] <GridCube> also DanielSenat everything after the & is not necesary
[00:25] <GridCube> if you add it it wont work :/
[00:25] <DanielSenat> I know :) Thanks
[00:36] <DanielSenat> everything is there, now i will reboot and hopen for the best! Hopefully hibernate will work!
[00:36] <GridCube> :)
[01:45] <Shirakawasuna> I'm having this issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11198249
[01:46] <Shirakawasuna> anyone have any ideas? It's super annoying to have notifications that don't go away
[02:59] <mahasamoot> I'm trying out xubuntu for the first time on the liveCD, and right away there's a big problem... not only is the proper driver for my nVidia card not loaded, but the Additional Drivers dialog only gives the option of nouveau-rubbish.  How does one go about get the correct driver installed, as the install dialog often fails even when it offers to install the correct drivers?
[03:05] <mahasamoot> Now I go to www.youtube.com, and flash isn't installed.  As much as I detest flash, is a major web component that's needed for normal web surfing.First impressions count.  Trying making a good first impression, by showing the nVidia banner at boot to let me know that the correct drivers are loaded, and installing flash by default.
[03:12] <mahasamoot> Finally, I go to check the time, and NTP isn't installed either.
[03:13] <GridCube> mahasamoot, flash is on xubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:14] <GridCube> and the drivers for nvidia should be there if they are not search the on synaptic
[03:15] <mahasamoot> GridCube, thank you for the point.  I know it's easy to get, the point I'm making is that I shouldn't need to get it, it should already be installed by default
[03:15] <GridCube> nope
[03:15] <GridCube> is restricted for a reason
[03:16] <mahasamoot> what reason?
[03:17] <GridCube> privative license and closed software
[03:18] <mahasamoot> id est, you don't want to install it.
[03:18] <GridCube> its one of the very first things i install, the whole xubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:18] <GridCube> but i know they are restricted
[03:19] <GridCube> and i choose to accept that
[03:25] <mahasamoot> horrible file manager
[03:26] <GridCube> whit that attitude you ain't gonna win  a lot of friends around here bro
[03:27] <mahasamoot> I'm just giving honest first impressions... I'm a refuge from KDE
[03:27] <GridCube> oh... qt
[03:27] <mahasamoot> I'm trying to find something better, that doesn't crash, and isn't slow as molasess in Jan.
[03:27] <GridCube> things are different back there
[03:28] <GridCube> well you can always change the filemanager
[03:28] <mahasamoot> so far, xfce is fast and hasn't crashed... it might serve my needs
[03:28] <GridCube> use nautilus if you want, but i would rather learn to like thunar
[03:28] <well_laid_lawn> people who whinge about free stuff amaze me
[03:28] <GridCube> also if speed is what your after try lubuntu as well
[03:28] <mahasamoot> it's not thunar is it?
[03:29] <GridCube> mahasamoot, ? what? xubuntu comes whit thunar
[03:29] <mahasamoot> oh... I thot thunar was different, I wonder if it's just set up weird.
[03:30] <mahasamoot> like, doesn't it have options for power users?
[03:31] <well_laid_lawn> power users can find all the options they need themselves...
[03:32] <GridCube> power users use a tty and if they feel nostalgic mc
[03:32] <well_laid_lawn> heh
[03:34] <mahasamoot> well, inspite of the warts, there's alot to like here... I'll install and give it a week.  Thanks for your help!
[03:35] <GridCube> :) np
[03:40] <mahasamoot> what's the hot key to open the run program dialog?
[03:41] <GridCube> alt-f2
[03:41] <mahasamoot> oh, I thot I had tried that... thanks!
[03:41] <GridCube> no problem :)
[03:51] <mahasamoot> I just tried moving the panel from the top, to the side of the screen and all the text changes orientation to match... except the clock
[03:52] <mahasamoot> Install process is running smoothly so far
[03:55] <mahasamoot> I like that Desktop config tool, it's got an option to get rid of the icons, which is a good thing
[04:06] <mikodo> Quiet channel
[04:07] <well_laid_lawn> it can be at times mikodo
[04:09] <mikodo> Well, I am going to Xubuntu full-time after EOL of Lucid and Gnome2
[04:10] <mikodo> Is there a lot like me?
[04:10] <well_laid_lawn> seems there has been a few recently
[04:10] <mikodo> How is the future for Xcfe?
[04:11] <mikodo> Xfce i mean
[04:11] <well_laid_lawn> I think it is pretty safe - #xfce will know about that
[04:12] <mikodo> Oh, I start watching that too! Thx.
[04:12] <well_laid_lawn> cheers ;)
[04:12] <mikodo> You Too!
[04:25] <dr_jkl> grrr
[04:25] <dr_jkl> stupid wireless power management issue
[05:49] <seidell> how do i install themes from http://xfce-look.org ?
[05:53] <seidell> how do i install themes from http://xfce-look.org ?
[06:07] <seidell> how do i change xfce theme?
[06:16] <Unit193> Menu > Settings > Settings Manager > Appearance OR Window Manager
[08:11] <Unit193> Eh?
[08:13] <IdleOne> I think that was a mistake
[08:13] <IdleOne> he will fix it.
[08:14] <Unit193> It's fine, I obey
[08:43] <xubuntu_fail> hey, can you help me installing xubuntu?
[08:43] <xubuntu_fail> it fails after the check if my internet connection is working and my notebook is plugged in
[08:45] <xubuntu_fail> seems like nobody wants to help me :'(
[08:47] <xubuntu_fail> Nach "Installation von Xubuntu wird vorbereitet" hängt sich ubiquity auf :(
[08:47] <madnick> Is it the Beta?
[08:47] <xubuntu_fail> no
[08:47] <xubuntu_fail> 11.04
[08:48] <madnick> Alternate CD?
[08:48] <xubuntu_fail> no, normal cd
[08:49] <xubuntu_fail> i tried xubuntu because ubuntu and kubuntu failed too
[08:49] <madnick> is it when selecting language? could you dump to a tty and see what it says?
[08:49] <xubuntu_fail> after language selction
[08:49] <madnick> But do you get pass language selection?
[08:49] <madnick> or does it hang directly
[08:49] <xubuntu_fail> i select my langue click next, it check if my internet is working, i click next and it hangs
[08:50] <madnick> Oh okay
[08:50] <madnick> But if you press ctrl+alt+f2
[08:50] <madnick> is there a warning there?
[08:51] <xubuntu_fail> no, anything normal
[08:51] <xubuntu_fail> only that ubuntu comes with no warranty
[08:52] <madnick> It may be a different tty, im not sure
[08:52] <DanielSenat> Hi, I can't boot from my xubuntu cd
[08:52] <xubuntu_fail> they are all empty
[08:53] <xubuntu_fail> @DanielSenat have you tried burning it again?
[08:53] <DanielSenat> xubuntu_fail, No I havn't
[08:54] <madnick> xubuntu_fail: is your image checksum alright?
[08:54] <xubuntu_fail> yes
[08:54] <xubuntu_fail> i checked it twice
[08:54] <DanielSenat> I can boot from it, but when i chose try xubuntu without installing it just takes so much time, xubuntu is written on the screen, but no boot
[08:54] <madnick> Sorry I have not heard of this bug previously
[08:55] <xubuntu_fail> @DanielSenat It can up to 20 minutes
[08:56] <DanielSenat> xubuntu_fail, OK, it explains everything..
[08:57] <madnick> Thing is however, if you had a normal CD, the first dialog is checking internet connection, ive looked for bugs and I cannot find anyone like this
[08:57] <xubuntu_fail> oh, then i must try burning an alternate cd...
[08:58] <knome> xubuntu_fail, how much ram?
[08:58] <xubuntu_fail> 2GB
[08:58] <xubuntu_fail> 2GHz
[08:58] <knome> oki, then it's not that :P
[08:58] <knome> because something similar might come up with very little ram
[08:59] <knome> maybe the graphic card then, so better try alternative as you thought
[08:59] <xubuntu_fail> oh, i forgot that my hard drive makes read/write sounds and the led is blinking but nothing on the screen happens
[08:59] <xubuntu_fail> oh year my graphic card is making OFTEN problems
[09:00] <xubuntu_fail> ATi Mobility radeon 9700
[09:01] <knome> have you searched for google if it should work with (x)ubuntu?
[09:01] <xubuntu_fail> there are 2 year old reports it should work
[09:01] <knome> well, no reason why it shouldn't... but there are a few cards that are kind of your worst nightmare...
[09:01] <knome> okay
[09:02] <xubuntu_fail> but with a new update it stopped working (cant remember which one)
[09:02] <knome> mm
[09:02] <knome> that sometimes happen
[09:03]  * xubuntu_fail wents on to burnws :( an alternate cd.... with windo
[10:02] <DanielSenat> Jag följde följande guide, nu funkar swap bra, men extended aktiveras inte https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[10:02] <DanielSenat> sorry.. i tough i was in the swe channel
[10:04] <DanielSenat> I followed this guide to get moreswap and i did :) But when i open gparted "/dev/sda2 -- extended" is not active..
[10:05] <DanielSenat> swap is active, but not extended
[10:28] <DanielSenat> Jag har en dev/sda2 som inte används
[10:28] <DanielSenat> kan jag ta bort? har skapat ny swap..
[10:28] <DanielSenat> Grejen är att denna heter inte swap och kördes förr. Filsystemet heter extended
[10:29] <DanielSenat> sorry wrong channel..
[10:30] <DanielSenat> I have a dev/sda2 not in use, can i delete it? Filesystem is extended
[10:31] <DanielSenat> I made my linux-swap bigger and after that, sda2 doesn't work
[10:34] <Guest52542> Maybe the extended swap destroy sda2
[10:40] <DanielSenat> I don't know but eveything works fine
[10:54] <DanielSenat> http://pastebin.com/bvGqpuXr
[12:04] <DanielSenat> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ can i chose any of the newer kernals? I have naty narval xubuntu
[12:05] <Guest52542> depend on your hardware
[12:05] <DanielSenat> silentpapa, Ati drivers
[12:06] <DanielSenat> toshiba laptop
[12:06] <DanielSenat> intel
[12:06] <DanielSenat> can i do a command that says more?
[12:06] <DanielSenat> in terminal?
[12:07] <TheSheep> lshw
[12:09] <DanielSenat> http://pastebin.com/c1WaFyws
[12:12] <DanielSenat> silentpapa, di u see?
[12:15] <DanielSenat> http://pastebin.com/c1WaFyws what kernel should i have?
[12:56] <DanielSenat> how to chose witch kernel to boot?
[13:23] <mahasamoot> Hi, I'm just trying Xubuntu for the first time.
[13:24] <mahasamoot> I'm a refuge from KDE4.... which is soooo slow, and also still crashes
[13:24] <mahasamoot> I just installed Xubuntu last night, and am trying to get the hang of it
[13:25] <mahasamoot> While it's much faster and there's alot to like, one huge problem I have is the "Run Program..." dialog
[13:26] <TheSheep> what about it?
[13:26] <KM0201> mahasamoot: ..?
[13:26] <mahasamoot> it's useless, no help at all... why doesn't it search as I type
[13:27] <mahasamoot> can it be replaced?
[13:27] <TheSheep> sure, you can use anything
[13:27] <TheSheep> like gnome-do or something
[13:29] <TheSheep> hmm, synapse, launchy
[13:29] <mahasamoot> thanks, I'll have a look
[13:30] <mahasamoot> I'm tried of this silly thing that thinks everything I type is a search term for the web browser.... when it's called "Run Program"
[13:31] <TheSheep> huh?
[13:32] <TheSheep> xfrun4 only starts programs
[13:34] <TheSheep> synapse looks kinda nice
[13:38] <mahasamoot> for example, if I type "gnome-do" into the "Run Program" dialog, it opens a tab in firefox, and puts gnome-do in the location bar, then ff tells me there is no such website
[13:39] <mahasamoot> tho, I see that gnome-do wasn't installed... perhaps it would run if I had it... which I soon will.
[13:39] <TheSheep> is that the same dialog that appear when you press alt+f2?
[13:40] <mahasamoot> yes
[13:40] <TheSheep> that's strange, it doesn't do web searches for me
[13:40] <TheSheep> maybe it's some option
[13:41] <mahasamoot> I misspoke... it's not really a search, it just thinks it's a webpage
[13:41] <TheSheep> but yeah, it's not supposed to search for programs or files, it just executes the command you put there
[13:42] <mahasamoot> if I type "google" it opens google in a tab in ff
[13:43] <TheSheep> I guess that's a new thing
[13:45] <mahasamoot> I guess it's not as bad as I first thot... tho, a step down for sure, when you're used to tab-completion...
[13:46] <mahasamoot> TheSheep, thanks for the help... I've got to reboot due to updates L8R :-)
[16:34] <Joshua17th> how i can play minecraft on xubuntu?
[16:46] <GridCube> Joshua17th, ask #minecraft
[16:47] <Joshua17th> okay!
[16:47] <GridCube> probably you need to install some java stuff and run it?
[16:47] <Joshua17th> it whines about its downloaded from another source and says it dangerous to execute
[16:49] <well_laid_lawn> sounds like some horrible propriety application crap there...
[17:02] <desaiu> Where is /dev/audio?
[17:02] <desaiu> What replaced it?
[17:35] <DanielSenat> http://pastebin.com/anmz5jvT
[17:35] <DanielSenat> is evrything alright?
[17:36] <well_laid_lawn> seems fine - what's the concern?
[17:37] <xubunturob> Sorry I am very new to chat
[17:37] <xubunturob> I am also new to xubuntu and am having troubles with playing mp3 codecs
[17:37] <DanielSenat> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1852889
[17:38] <well_laid_lawn> DanielSenat: use your words
[17:38] <DanielSenat> well_laid_lawn, Just wondering why there is the line UUID=266993e7-df52-4780-a74f-3390a183b7cc /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[17:38] <DanielSenat> error scars m ;)
[17:39] <DanielSenat> scares me
[17:39] <well_laid_lawn> xubunturob: install xubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:40] <well_laid_lawn> DanielSenat: that's a mount option for when errors ocuur
[17:40] <GridCube> DanielSenat, it means that in case of errors it will start on read only
[17:40] <DanielSenat> aha ok!
[17:40] <DanielSenat> Then it's fine
[17:40] <DanielSenat> :)
[17:40] <GridCube> :)
[17:40] <DanielSenat> Thank's
[17:40] <well_laid_lawn> so if the systems errors the / partition gets remounted readonly
[17:40] <xubunturob> @well_laid_lawn do I select that in the synaptics package manager or from term
[17:40] <DanielSenat> OK
[17:41] <well_laid_lawn> xubunturob: it's your choice
[17:41] <well_laid_lawn> either will work
[17:41] <xubunturob> kk going to give it a go
[17:42] <DanielSenat> Still not hibernate/suspend .. What kernel would work with my system? 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc M22 [Mobility Radeon X300] [1002:5460]
[17:42] <DanielSenat> I am on natty narval
[17:45] <xubunturob> @well laid lawn: the marked changes are now being applied"
[17:46] <well_laid_lawn> !tab | xubunturob
[17:46] <well_laid_lawn> you can type wel<tab> to get well_laid_lawn
[17:48] <xubunturob> well_laid_lawn, oh very nice cause typing that out all the time suckish
[17:48] <well_laid_lawn> heh
[17:49] <xubunturob> well_laid_lawn, Success thank you very much my new friend of today
[17:49] <well_laid_lawn> cheers ;)
[17:49] <xubunturob> ;)
[17:55] <xubunturob> well_laid_lawn, I am listening to: Orc March( ft. snowflake, wolf sebastian, spinning merkaba) by basematic from ccMixter creative commons. You should give it a listen. Well thanks again cheers to you mate, I'm off
[17:55] <well_laid_lawn> see ya
[18:32] <xubuntu961> Hi
[18:32] <knome> hell
[18:32] <well_laid_lawn> o
[18:32] <knome> +o...
[18:33] <xubuntu961> I'm a new xubunuts's usr
[18:33] <well_laid_lawn> :)
[18:33] <knome> !language | knome
[18:33] <knome> ;)
[18:33] <xubuntu961> i'm installing xubuntu by first
[18:34] <xubuntu961> i'm very happy. You don't care, but i want to say it, jajaja
[18:34] <well_laid_lawn> woot
[18:36] <knome> of course we care. nice to hear you are happy with xubuntu
[18:42] <csenger41> hey everyone :)
[18:42] <knome> hello
[18:42] <csenger41> i would like to know how can I customize my menu?
[18:42] <csenger41> ohh, its Xubuntu 11.04
[18:43] <knome> csenger41, install alacarte and run it.
[18:43] <csenger41> knome: is it repo?
[18:43] <knome> csenger41, yes, it's in the repositories
[18:43] <csenger41> knome: woot, great, thx :)
[18:44] <knome> no problem
[18:44] <csenger41> one more thing: how can I make a custom install CD about Xubuntu?
[18:45] <knome> afaik it's the same process as with the ubuntu cd's, but i'm not familiar with that
[18:45] <csenger41> i mean i want to add some programs and remove others so i dont have to do it after install
[18:45] <csenger41> ohh but idk how to do it with ubuntu CD either
[18:45] <knome> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[18:45] <knome> that should be a good starting point
[18:46] <xubuntu961> have anybody use xubuntu as a download server?
[18:46] <knome> xubuntu961, what does that mean? just a normal server that serves files via http?
[18:47] <xubuntu961> i have an old PC
[18:47] <xubuntu961> PIII and 512mb RAM
[18:47] <xubuntu961> so i've installed xubuntu to download files, videos, etc
[18:48] <xubuntu961> and i think that someone use xubuntu for it
[18:49] <knome> i don't quite understand
[18:49] <xubuntu961> i'm a gnome and a Win user, but it's my first install
[18:49] <knome> what's your native language?
[18:49] <xubuntu961> spanish. My english is poor, as you see, jajaja
[18:50] <knome> !es > xubuntu961
[18:50] <xubuntu961> ok!
[18:50] <knome> hmm...
[18:50] <knome> yeah, there is a spanish channel
[18:50] <knome> you can ask about xubuntu there too, they should be able to help
[18:50] <xubuntu961> ok!! thank you ubottu and knome
[18:50] <knome> no problem
[18:51] <xubuntu961> bye and thank you again
[18:55] <focalt> is anyone familiar with dns configuration?
[18:55] <csenger41> no, not me sry
[18:56] <knome> somewhat
[19:00] <csenger41> knome: UCK is perfect for my problem :)
[19:17] <csenger41> well thx for the help :)
[19:17] <csenger41> bye
[22:13] <dr_jkl> is there any way to make thunderbird and it's notifciations show up in the same way that pidgin's do in the notification area?
[22:15] <knome> dr_jkl, disable the notifications, install the plugin 'mailbox-alert' and use something like "/usr/bin/notify-send New\ mail\ (%server) <b>%sendername</b>:\ %subject" as the Command to run with the plugin
[22:16] <knome> dr_jkl, "disable the notifications" as in disable the default *thunderbird* notifications
[22:16] <Shirakawasuna> hmm
[22:17] <Shirakawasuna> thunderbird's notifications show up pretty normally for me. Do you mean the mail icon, dr_jkl?
[23:00] <dr_jkl> Shirakawasuna: yes
[23:02] <dr_jkl> Shirakawasuna: that's exactly what i mean
[23:26] <Shirakawasuna> dr_jkl: I think you basically have to wait for 11.10
[23:26] <Shirakawasuna> dr_jkl: I have that same issue and have failed to figure it out after trying several guides
[23:27] <Shirakawasuna> dr_jkl: If you find a solution, though, tell me so I can fix mine too :)
[23:31] <dr_jkl> :)
[23:42] <dr_jkl> i hope someone notices my bug soon :s