=== yofel_ is now known as yofel [00:44] ScottK: thanks for the bug and tray applet [00:46] ScottK: thanks for the bug and tray applet [00:47] I am soo busy at work, I won't be able to get a lot done in a writeup till tuesday, a had a hard lock runnig a vm or (more likely) accidentally running akonadi while virtualbox was running did the trick, then I went to bed :( [00:56] afiestas: If we can get testing on an updated snapshot in Kubuntu today was can probably get an upload in late Sunday. [01:08] ScottK: have you read the email I sent? [01:11] afiestas: I did. [01:12] afiestas: If we are going to update, then we need to get the snapshot packaged and tested very soon. === micahg_ is now known as micahg [04:05] [kdelibs] Jonathan Thomas * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20111002040526-s6m207q73hs3jllc * debian/ (3 files in 2 dirs) Add kubuntu_fix_kextendableitemdelegate_crash.diff from upstream (Commit fc923ff9 to the 4.7 branch) to fix a crash visible in Muon. [04:06] JontheEchidna: Are you uploading that then? [04:06] yep [04:06] OK. I'll stay awake long enough to accept it. [04:08] thanks [04:18] JontheEchidna: Accepted. Thanks. [11:03] \o [11:06] morning [11:28] yofel: morning [11:28] shadeslayer: o/ [11:29] my morning was not so good: I tried to use kdepim. So far a failure. even with a newly created account [11:30] Is it only me, but for a new user first login seem to succeed, then kdm greeter appears. [11:32] allee: natty + 4.? or oneiric? [11:32] kbuildsycoca4(8936) KBuildServiceFactory::createEntry: Invalid Service : "/usr/share/applications/kde4/koffice.desktop" [11:32] kbuildsycoca4(8936) KConfigGroup::readXdgListEntry: List entry Categories in "/usr/share/applications/kde4/bluedevil-network-panu.desktop" is not compliant with XDG standard (missing trailing semicolon). [11:32] kbuildsycoca4(8936) KConfigGroup::readXdgListEntry: List entry Categories in "/usr/share/applications/im-switch.desktop" is not compliant with XDG standard (missing trailing semicolon). [11:32] "KConfigIni: In file /tmp/kde-pim-test/kconf_updatehX8937.tmp, line 1: " Invalid entry (missing '=') [11:32] QDBusObjectPath: invalid path "" [11:32] QObject::connect: Cannot connect (null)::deviceFound(Device*) to BlueDevilDaemon::deviceFound(Device*) [11:32] QObject::connect: Cannot connect QTimer::timeout() to (null)::stopDiscovery() [11:32] kded(8935) LayoutMemoryPersister::restoreFromFile: Failed to open layout memory xml file for reading "/home/pim-test/.kde/share/apps/kded/session/keyboard/layout_memory.xml" error: 5 [11:32] Connecting to deprecated signal QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString) [11:32] Object::connect: No such slot NetworkManagementService::finishInitialization() [11:32] Object::connect: No such signal QDBusAbstractInterface::Changed() [11:33] QDBusConnection: name 'org.kde.kglobalaccel' had owner '' but we thought it was ':1.11' [11:33] QPixmap::handle(): Pixmap is not an X11 class pixmap [11:33] kded4: Fatal IO error: client killed [11:33] kglobalaccel: Fatal IO error: client killed [11:33] kdeinit4: Fatal IO error: client killed [11:33] kdeinit4: sending SIGHUP to children. [11:33] Qt-subapplication: Fatal IO error: client killed [11:33] klauncher: Exiting on signal 1 [11:33] kdeinit4: Fatal IO error: client killed [11:33] kdeinit4: sending SIGHUP to children. [11:33] a) pastebin please... b) o.O [11:33] upps. sorry. Whated to paste the url not the content [11:33] yofel: oneiric. Last update 3 hours ago [11:33] I know :( [11:33] hm, I just logged in on updated oneiric fine [11:34] not a new user though [11:34] http://paste.ubuntu.com/700989/ [11:34] yofel: after updates the logout after 10 sec append also my existing user. [11:35] but there I blamed the update. [11:36] * allee looks into the login failure probem ... [11:38] afiestas: FYI bluedevil-network-{dun,panu}.desktop files somewhere miss a ';' (see your .xsession error ;) [11:42] okaaaay... [11:42] * allee votes for an alternative shortcut for copy, cut and paste: ctrl-shift-{p,x,v} as used by konsole. [11:43] I just tried to open firefox and got logged out o.O [11:43] hehe [11:44] hm... [11:45] Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module" [11:45] kded4: Fatal IO error: client killed [11:45] o.O [11:49] installed libcanberra-gtk-module again and no crash so far [11:51] but it missing causing a crash in kded is ridiculous [11:53] yofel: Firefox works here and the libcan..module is not installed. So it's (non-standard) a kded service that crashes? [11:53] nevertheless. Definitely a pkg is missing a Depends: .. libcanberra-gtk-module [11:54] well, firefox should recommend it I think as it's not really required [12:38] * yofel goes searching for some missing icons - bug 823830 and bug 830447 [12:38] Launchpad bug 823830 in Kubuntu PPA "Minor Glitches in KDE 4.7.0" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/823830 [12:38] Launchpad bug 830447 in Kubuntu PPA "to-do icon missing in Kontact (KDE PIM)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/830447 [12:38] they're missing in oneric too [12:48] ScottK: how does lowfat relate to an activity? [12:49] doubtlessly one acitivity can have less mem consumption than another acitivity but one can also have less mem consumption without an acitvity [12:50] that is to say ... low fat has a wider scope than what the activity paradigm actual represents === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [13:06] apachelogger: Can you check if kffmpegthumbnailer works in Dolphin? [13:07] KDE needs some video thumbnailer inside [13:09] check the channle logs [13:10] what the F**** [13:11] apachelogger: For what? kffmpegthumbnailer? How long ago was that [13:11] for talk about the thumbnailer business [13:11] yofel: Sup? [13:11] I enabled kffmpegthumbnailer in dolpin, clicked on apply and the color scheme for all already opened windows changed o.O [13:11] natty + 4.7 [13:12] yofel: It works? [13:12] it didn't change the setting though, new windows have the right colors, only the widows that are already open changed... [13:12] it does in natty, lemme try to find something on my eeePC to test... [13:14] prn [13:14] * Quintasan looks @ log and finds nothing [13:14] log from quite a while ago [13:14] Ah [13:17] Quintasan: WFM on oneiric [13:17] Cool [13:17] Then it's just broken here [13:17] oh btw [13:18] yofel: http://paste.kde.org/129535 <--- do you have those packages holded by apt as well? [13:18] no [13:18] hmm [13:18] Ah [13:18] ninjas were uncommented [13:19] Doesnt change a thing [13:19] wtf [13:21] Quintasan: can you either use aptitude (if you don't use multiarch), or: apt-get dist-upgrade -u -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true [13:22] It pulls a shitload of :i386 packages [13:22] let's see if it works [13:22] yofel: If I am not back soon then something has failed :P === neversfelde_ is now known as neversfelde [13:43] apachelogger: It could be, but from the sounds of the upstream discussion on the future of power management, it seemed like another way to do it. [13:56] I haven't read the discussion ... but it is essentially the same thing with scope ... except that an activity can influence the policy for pm [13:57] such as no-screen of when on mediacenter activity [13:57] s/of/off [14:01] apachelogger: ScottK: long story short about power management: only a feature used by 0.0001% is going to be moved somewhere else [14:04] * yofel goes upgrading his desktop to oneiric [14:52] shadeslayer: pingpingpng [14:53] pong pong ponh [14:53] shadeslayer: uds on ios?! [14:53] apachelogger: haven't had the time to set up everything yet @_@ [14:53] -.- [14:54] lemme start cloning Qt ... something thats going to take forever [14:55] you don't have a clone around? [14:55] nope [14:55] haven't had the need for one till now [14:55] oh my [14:56] oh one sec [14:56] lemme see if i can copy stuff from the other user [14:57] nope, no Qt clones [14:58] cloning started, wait for ... 3 days before it completes :P [14:58] brr [14:59] I'm pretty sure my ISP will log me out at 11 PM [15:00] shadeslayer: maybe apachelogger should send you a DVD with the Repro on it :P [15:00] that would probably be faster :P [15:00] O_O ... 2 % done already [15:00] ok, there's some home [15:00] *hope [15:00] morning [15:09] bulldog98_: I do not think my clone fits on a DVD :P [15:10] * apachelogger has like 3000 remotes and a bazillion branches [15:10] apachelogger: but you could clone qt for shadeslayer and burn it, it would still be faster :P [15:11] indeed [15:17] i have to download xcode as well after this :S [15:20] shadeslayer: maybe you should have started with downloads that weekend you said you were going to then... [15:20] it slipped my mind [15:23] apachelogger: I should have everything setup by tomorrow probably [15:23] if everything goes as planned [15:25] bwahahaha : http://cl.ly/2E3P3W2y1A0G3S1S3e1O [15:41] not even qtsdk with all toolchains is that fat [15:43] did I already ask what features a mobile uds app could use? [15:43] apachelogger: show the way to the next food shop? [15:44] already there [15:44] sorta [15:44] that is what the map tab is for [15:44] apachelogger: show pics of the people in an session? [15:45] bulldog98_: pics? [15:45] like launchpad user mugshots? [15:45] yep === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 [15:45] hmmm [15:45] might only be possible in the next version, once we switch to the rest api [15:46] showing partys etc [15:47] oh, we got that already [15:47] parties are in the regular schedule [15:48] might be worth to show them collectively somewhere [15:53] * apachelogger wonders if soyuz is still being developed or if OBS is now getting integrated [15:53] I think no bug I ever filed against launchpad was ever fixed :( [15:57] uh... they aren't integrating OBS, or else there wouldn't be that many bugs [15:58] well [15:59] as I said so many times, integrations OBS into launchpad and improve its debian support would be a worthwhile investment [16:16] 61 % cloning done [16:30] I'm guessing KDE 4.7.2 will be SRU'd ? [16:31] yeah [16:31] shadeslayer: if you package it [16:31] yofel: can you get packaging staretd please [16:31] will probably start tomorrow [16:31] have to prepare a presentation right now [16:32] apachelogger: your iOS stuff is eating up all my bandwidth anyway :P [16:32] "influence of the prn industry on adoption of new technologies in the market"? [16:32] "influence of the prn industry on adoption of new OSS technologies in the market" [16:33] ic [16:33] and something about the PIC microcontrollre [16:33] *microcontroller [16:34] that sounds a tad boring [16:35] it is [16:41] apachelogger: oye [16:41] launchpad isn't *that* bad:) [16:41] apachelogger: wth is that? [16:42] nigelb: do you really want my bug list? ^^ [16:42] nigelb: comparing soyuz to OBS I'd say there is a 1000% difference in usefulness [16:42] * yofel loves the realtime buildlog on OBS... [16:42] apachelogger: soyuz sucks, everyone knows. But launchpad itself isn't that bad. [16:42] I like the bug tracker. [16:43] well ok, malone I can live with [16:43] well, it is much to big a piece of software IMHO [16:43] but soyuz and the source imports tend to annoy me [16:43] soyuz annoys everyone, sadly. [16:43] since I manage to hit a bug at least once a month [16:43] like the entire blueprint system could be canned as it does not nearly life up to its potential [16:44] well, blueprints are getting killed soon. [16:44] nigelb: is there a replacements for the todo lists? [16:44] so what features are left... [16:44] *replacement [16:44] projects which is really just a gateway feature [16:45] then you got code which wants you to use bzr if you want to use lunchpad [16:45] yofel: Its getting some sort of merge with bugs [16:45] and malone, which quite frankly might be the most useful part of launchpad to begin with [16:45] nigelb: ok, that actually sounds somewhat reasonable [16:46] answers.launchpad.net isn't that bad either [16:46] a merge would supposedly also kill quite some wishlist items on malone WRT dep tracking between bugs [16:46] which is one feature I *really* miss [16:47] hm, version tracking ala bugs.debian.org style is something I miss [16:47] you really cannot track complicated stuff in malone right now [16:47] or if you try it would lead to a misrepresentation of reality [16:47] like you have one bug affect 5 packages, even though they form indivdual steps to resolve a super bug [16:48] yofel: answers also doesn't life up to its potential [16:48] plus underused [16:48] plus essentially deprecated by askubuntu [16:48] hm, true [16:48] well, answers for *ubuntu* probably is deprecated [16:48] * apachelogger is someone who likes to trim software if work force does not suffice anyway ^^ [16:48] but not for other proejcts [16:48] so I am very biased here [16:49] heh [16:49] apachelogger: did you finish the uds app? [16:49] apachelogger: back on topic, what's staretd? [16:49] nigelb: which leads back to the problem that answers is very underdeveloped and if you actually need such a solution you would be turning somewhere else [16:50] yofel: you should prepare for 4.7.2 [16:50] wiki page, get the people and stuff [16:50] tars are up I hear [16:50] oh right [16:50] I'll have dinner now, but I can do the wiki stuff before that [16:50] nigelb: no, I am still waiting on a UI design from rbelem [16:51] non-ui is pretty much in line though for first release [16:52] apachelogger: qt cloned \o/ [16:52] yay [16:52] get cracking [16:52] oh fun, dirk is already having problems ^^ [16:52] eh [16:52] building [16:52] heh [16:52] apachelogger: nope, still downloading xcode [16:52] yofel: that is because he is using inferior release scripting :P [16:53] shadeslayer: you can build qt without xcode, no? [16:53] apachelogger: nope, xcode installs the compiler and everything iirc [16:54] what a drag [16:55] :P [16:55] 8 Hours remaining [16:55] good lord [16:57] hehe :) [16:58] you should've probably cloned it on my server, tarred and xz -9 -ed it, and sftpd that [16:58] yofel has a point there [16:58] also http should start compressing everything with xz :P [16:58] well, why didn't apachelogger think of that before [16:59] * apachelogger does not think of silly distributors shipping stuff that is not distributed in sane manner [16:59] that sentence was all sorts of confusing [16:59] wtf [16:59] 1 Day remaining [16:59] * yofel notes that plymouth + nouveau is still broken in oneiric after upgrading [16:59] 2 days now -.- [17:01] off for dinner, bbiab [17:01] is that apple's server being crap? [17:01] you might really go through yofel, surely his speed is less influenced by thousends of software patent supporters [17:02] nope, it's because jenkins started a build on my server [17:03] that does not compute [17:03] apachelogger: http://build.kde.org/job/kdepim-runtime-test/ [17:03] why does a build make your download take longer?! [17:04] apachelogger: it clones repos and sync's everything [17:04] with the master node [17:04] it does new clones everytime? :O [17:04] oh oho h [17:04] actually [17:04] shadeslayer: that is distributed? [17:04] no, it updates it and everything [17:04] apachelogger: yus [17:04] so.... [17:05] shadeslayer: whoever is in charge should talk to muesli about moving phonon and tomahawk there and add the tomahawk hudson server as a node [17:05] also someone should tell me how we can make our ARM machines nodes [17:05] apachelogger: talk to tnyblom [17:05] Torgny Nyblom that is [17:05] * apachelogger is all busy with getting high [17:18] guys kdepim-runtime has an override issue: http://paste.kde.org/129583/ [17:19] shadeslayer: you uploaded it ^ [17:20] eh [17:20] how the heck did it land in -dev [17:21] shadeslayer: hm [17:22] add breaks kdepim-runtime-dev I’d say [17:22] bulldog98: obviously the 4.6 package is bad [17:22] shadeslayer: yes but it was installed via one of our ppas [17:22] !ninjas | work to do: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging [17:23] that didn't work :P [17:23] * bulldog98 doesn’t have time tomorrow, but I’ll try to do something in university at tuesday [17:23] bulldog98: 4.6.0 doesn't exist anywhere anymore [17:23] !ninjas [17:23] Ninja Time! apachelogger, bulldog98, debfx, JontheEchidna, Lex79, maco, neversfelde, nhandler, Quintasan, rgreening, Riddell, ScottK, stalcup, txwikinger, yofel [17:23] now :) [17:23] * apachelogger undresses === yofel changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu: Friendly Computing | Final Freeze in effect | Archive Frozen | Kubuntu 11.10 Beta 2 Released! | TODO: http://goo.gl/BD9JL | UDS Ideas: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Specs/UDS-P | 4.7.2 Packaging: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging [17:24] yofel: yes I don’t know either why this happened [17:24] bulldog98: well, I know that files shifted around quite a bit in our kdepim packages with someone, you, me and even more people messing with the install files [17:25] and we don't add Breaks/Replaces for PPA packages usually [17:25] ok [17:26] yofel: we do [17:26] except usually it is not necessary to do it against a ppa version specifically [17:27] ah, might have been me then dropping something at some point [17:28] ok now... why doesn't kgetsource have any help? [17:28] yofel: which version are you using? [17:28] because its documentation is probably in its commit [17:28] bulldog98: trunk [17:28] yofel: I could add one [17:29] * yofel reads some ruby [17:29] yofel: kgetsource PACKAGE [17:29] gives you latest stable [17:30] hm, it obviously relies on khighestversion being in PATH [17:30] yofel: yes [17:31] * yofel runs dpkg-buildpackage [17:35] heh, for oxygen-icons I really would like to have a progress-bar ^^ [17:40] any reason why it puts stuff into build-area/ ? [17:40] I would prefer the current folder [17:45] yofel: that was the behaviour it used to be (putting in build-area) haven’t touched that, since it’s apachelogger’s work :) [17:45] ah [17:45] cause bzr builddeb expects it to be there [17:45] nvm anyway, I'll stop using that script as it does a half-way work anyway [17:45] or something or nothing [17:45] * yofel doesn't use bzr-builddeb [17:46] that is a bug then [17:47] VPNC still broken oneiric. Patch was: http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/tmp/nm-plasmiod-fix-vpnc.diff [17:47] true, it expects it there, odd bzr [17:47] bambee cyphermox ScottK ^^ anyone upload? [17:47] apachelogger: http://cl.ly/221E351x0p3p1d1h2k3B [17:47] so i do need the iphone simulator compiler thingy [17:48] ok, now I think I get how this is meant to work [17:48] usable [17:48] shadeslayer: are you on the right branch? [17:48] oh [17:48] yeah, that might be the problem [17:49] https://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qt/blobs/4.8/src/plugins/platforms/uikit/README [17:52] yeah, need to switch branches [17:54] apachelogger: why does klinksource doesnot properly work with kdelibs? [17:55] what does klinksource do? [17:55] ...probably because we call it kde4libs [17:56] apachelogger: You don't seem to have 'make' or 'gmake' in your PATH. [17:56] xD [17:57] gmake? [17:57] lol [17:57] apachelogger: it names it kdelibs… but should name that kde4libs… [17:57] hmm.. someone an idea how does one tell debuild which gpg key to use for signing? [17:57] yofel: debuild -k ? [17:57] bulldog98: yeah, that will need an override [17:58] yeah i know [17:58] bulldog98: hm, I'll try that [17:58] yofel: -kID or -k"Name" [17:58] apachelogger: do you want to fix that, or should I? [17:58] yeah, a bit unhandy though if I need to pass that every time [17:58] bulldog98: you [17:58] * yofel should probably just revoke his old key [17:58] I seem not to have enough motivation [18:02] * bulldog98 will first eat something :) [18:05] * yofel wonders if one can make bzr builddeb add a ~ppa1 suffix [18:07] do not over estimate our tools [18:07] one could do that though [18:07] export ... add entry ... buildpackage [18:08] allee: I've not rights to archives [18:08] ask a kubuntu dev or a core dev [18:08] apachelogger perhaps... [18:08] :p [18:17] alright, i'm off to bed [18:17] gn [18:23] gn [18:36] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/oxygen-icons] Philip Muškovac * 86 * debian/changelog New upstream release [18:36] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/meta-kde] Philip Muškovac * 15 * debian/ (changelog rules) Bump dev:latestVersino to 4.7.2 [18:38] yofel: smokegen is next :) [18:50] [lp:kubuntu-dev-tools] Jonathan Kolberg * 125 * bin/ (kgetsource klinksource) Fixed an issue with kdelib naming and fixed kgetsource with specific version [18:50] apachelogger, ScottK: not uploaded yet. oneiric vpnc fix for nm: http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/tmp/nm-plasmiod-fix-vpnc.diff [18:51] apachelogger: fixed [18:55] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokegen] Philip Muškovac * 12 * debian/changelog New upstream release [18:57] apachelogger: ping [19:00] [lp:kubuntu-dev-tools] Jonathan Kolberg * 126 * bin/klinksource Fixed an small issue in klinksource [19:07] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokeqt] Philip Muškovac * 10 * debian/changelog New upstream release [19:09] DarkwingDuck: yes? [19:10] yofel: only 10% left [19:10] of kdelibs [19:10] apachelogger: Would it make sence to learn C++ with KDE/Kubuntu? Or, should I learn it first then add Qt with it? [19:10] sure, I'm doing perqt and qtruby in the meantime [19:10] *perlqt [19:11] DarkwingDuck: depends on what you want to do [19:11] generally it would be: learn C, learn C++, learn Qt, learn KDE [19:12] apachelogger: woot. This will take a while then :D [19:12] * yofel is somewhere at the c++ step [19:13] I was thinking of taking the easy way out and learning python then PyQt [19:14] where the things to learn in the first two would be: c... memory management, pointers, arrays, general syntax; c++... memory management, classes, references, templates (although that can be learned later) [19:15] with qt and kde it is just a matter of learning how to create an initial app and then hack on something specific to get used to API and learn about existing classes [19:15] So it's actually less then it looks. [19:16] DarkwingDuck: again depending on what you want to do ... with pyqt you would most definitely have to digg quite a bit into unit testing, or automatic testing in general [19:16] to make up for the missing type safety and compile time compiler checks [19:16] * bulldog98 never has learned to write more than a hello world (or small calculator in C or C++) [19:17] but I can write Qt and KDE apps :) [19:18] the point is not to write code, the point is to understand the concepts and how one uses them in the respective language [19:19] apachelogger: yes I understand C and C++ code, but I do not want to code in C or C++ unless I can use Qt or KDE [19:22] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/perlqt] Philip Muškovac * 13 * debian/changelog New upstream release [19:24] apachelogger: I have to go to the airport and get on an airplane. Can you take care of the NM vpnc fix? [19:30] yofel: there is at least one missing stuff [19:30] otherwise it would be boring [19:31] ? [19:31] well, what's missing? [19:31] yofel: I mean in the symbol file [19:31] right [19:33] yofel: had a problem with space (the log is gone) [19:34] get yourself a larger HDD [19:34] btw is there a way to tell apt, that it should delete the downloaded packages after installing them? [19:34] yofel: it was a tmpfs build [19:35] run out of space, couse ~300 packages were in the tarball [19:37] hm, the buildlog shouldn't be in the tmpfs though [19:38] bulldog98: well, you can run apt-get clean right after it [19:38] yofel: hm is there no way to set that in an config file? [19:40] read the apt.conf manpage, there is an APT::Clean setting [19:40] yofel: that’s what I was up to do :) [19:42] * yofel has a cron job that runs this: [19:42] find /var/cache/apt/archives/ -atime +7 -exec rm -f -- '{}' \; [19:42] remove all debs that haven't been accessed in a week [19:43] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/qtruby] Philip Muškovac * 10 * debian/changelog New upstream release [19:43] yofel: I use a apt-cacher, so I don’t need them to be cached :) [19:43] ah [19:43] twice [19:47] yofel: I also teached pbuilders to use that, maybe I could add an hook for that? [19:51] wouldn't hurt to have in the collection I guess, ask apachelogger how to best fit it in, he wrote most of the hooks [19:54] apachelogger: a pbuilder generation hook would be best I guess. [19:54] maybe you should have to set a var to true in your rc to enable it [19:56] hm? [19:58] apachelogger: if you use a apt-cacher it’s useless to cache your files locally too. So it would make sense to force apt-get in an pbuilder to apt-get clean after each package installation [19:58] that only makes sense if you actually let pbuilder cache the fiels [19:58] *files [19:59] I do not compute [20:00] yofel: yeah that too [20:14] shadeslayer: did you know we had to submit a code sample for gsoc? [20:17] Is Dario Freddi as much of an "difficult personality" in person as he is on email? [20:17] yofel: http://paste.kde.org/129679 [20:17] * apachelogger only fondles dario usually [20:17] ScottK: nm is up btw [20:17] Cool. [20:17] Thaks [20:17] Thanks even. [20:18] Will look in a bit. [20:24] bulldog98: that shouldn't break anything, it's optional [20:25] ok [20:32] bulldog98: I do not get the problem of bug 94597 [20:32] Launchpad bug 94597 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "Settings for Logitech Optical Trackman unavailable" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94597 [20:34] yofel: pushing [20:40] apachelogger: do you have any logitech mouse/trackball? [20:43] apachelogger: there is no udev rule that sets proper rights for logitech mouse device files, so it can be changed form within systemsettings [20:44] I do not see where I would edit logitech stuff in systemsettings? [20:46] apachelogger: the mouses have different dpi settings and you can configure them there [20:47] if everything is setup right [20:47] where? [20:48] apachelogger: have you an logitech mouse pluged into your pc, only then you’ll see it in inputdevices -> mouse -> Logitech … [20:49] there is no inputdevices->mouse->logitech [20:49] http://i.imgur.com/Sh5Z9.png [20:55] apachelogger: http://people.ubuntu.com/~bulldog98/logitech.jpeg [20:56] 403 [20:56] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/630971 [20:56] Ubuntu bug 630971 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "kdm manpage has wrong path to README file" [Undecided,New] [20:56] man [20:59] bulldog98: I've got a logitech keyboard/mouse and I don't have any settings there either [20:59] missing package? [20:59] [kde-workspace] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20111002205943-gyhplca32yzfvawe * debian/ (changelog man/kdm.1) Fix manpage path reference to KDM readme file (LP: #630971) [21:00] !search logitech [21:00] Found: [21:00] ~search logitech [21:00] Results for logitech: 1. Logitech – Get immersed in the digital world with a mouse, keyboard ...: http://www.logitech.com/ | 2. Product Support - Logitech: http://www.logitech.com/support-downloads?debug=0 | 3. Logitech - Webcams & HD Web Cameras: http://www.logitech.com/en-us/webcam-communications/webcams [21:00] !package logitech [21:00] Sorry, I don't know anything about package logitech [21:02] hows's kdelibs doing? [21:04] yofel: 5mins and it’s up [21:04] bulldog98: so [21:04] can we get a look at the screenshot perhaps? [21:05] apachelogger: I’ll give you [21:07] http://paste.ubuntu.com/701244/ [21:08] only if one of those was detected it seems to add a tab [21:09] apachelogger: http://i.imgur.com/W47UZ.jpg [21:10] right on [21:10] I think this is an upstream issue [21:10] or an ubuntu udev one, I do not feel comfortable adding a udev rule to workspace via packaging [21:13] apachelogger: so I’d add ubuntu udev, since it’s working if the rule is installed [21:13] but I’ll verify that again [21:13] no [21:13] you should move the bug upstream [21:14] see what they think about it [21:14] and only if they do not want to ship a udev rule discuss it at ubuntu level [21:14] google suggests other distros are also annoyed by this [21:22] apachelogger: so I should ask udev guys? (are the at freedesktop.org?) [21:23] you should ask kde [21:34] I thought we fixed bug 841181 [21:34] Launchpad bug 841181 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "package kdm (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/841181 [21:37] * bulldog98 goes to bed [21:38] without the apt term.log that bug is useless [21:38] yofel: checkout the description [21:39] for some reason kdm.config is missing [21:40] I fear there's not much we can do there [21:40] that's dpkg erroring out on --purge if a conffile is missing [21:41] it shouldn't do that IMO [21:44] well [21:44] where did the file go [21:44] like we had that issue with duplicated removal [21:44] but I think that was 10.10 [21:44] user removed it? or renamed it? [21:44] yofel: you better ask the user :P [21:44] before upstart override files that was a common way to disable a service [21:47] ScottK: can you take a look at bug 864651 when you've got some free time? no hurry [21:47] Launchpad bug 864651 in natty-backports "Please backport kile 2.1.0-1ubuntu1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/864651 [21:48] apachelogger: might as well do that [21:49] afiestas: do you have an idea on bug 779421 [21:49] Launchpad bug 779421 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "Battery status applet always shows 100%" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/779421 [21:49] yofel: bug 786323 [21:49] Launchpad bug 786323 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "package kdm (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/786323 [21:50] yofel: bug 785081 [21:50] Launchpad bug 785081 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "package kdm (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: le sous-processus script post-removal installé a retourné une erreur de sortie d'état 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/785081 [21:50] jajajaja... [21:50] bug 802102 is the shitz though [21:50] Launchpad bug 802102 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "package kdm 4:4.6.2a-0ubuntu5.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/802102 [21:50] also not our OS [21:50] ! [21:52] well, that at least has a kdm package version in the report... [21:52] I guess the others are 4.6.2a too [21:55] yofel: bug 775011 [21:55] Launchpad bug 775011 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "package kdm (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/775011 [21:56] yofel: bug 758124 [21:56] Launchpad bug 758124 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "package kdm (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/758124 [21:57] yofel: bug 731982 [21:57] Launchpad bug 731982 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "package kdm (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 1tmo" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/731982 [21:57] yofel: bug 728025 [21:57] Launchpad bug 728025 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "package kdm (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/728025 [21:57] I think you are now required to do some duping :P [21:57] yofel: bug 711607 [21:57] Launchpad bug 711607 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "package kdm (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/711607 [21:58] apachelogger: replied to the bug asking for feedback [21:59] gracias [22:26] afiestas: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/762593 [22:26] Ubuntu bug 762593 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "battery applet shows incorrect charge level" [Undecided,New] [22:31] bah, first had a kernel panic, and then had to explain to my dad how one does a photo panorama (in windows no less -.-) [22:34] * yofel brings out a toast for nepomukstorage and akonadi_nepomuk_email_feeder eating up his eeePC's resources [22:41] afiestas: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/630458 [22:41] Ubuntu bug 630458 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "Powerdevil unable to control screen brightness on T60p" [Undecided,New] [22:53] apachelogger: last one may be fixed in 4.7.2/3 you can backport the fi [22:54] if you point me to it and if it is small enough [22:54] the first one (762593) I need some feedback, qdbus --system org.freedesktop.UPower output [22:54] * yofel wonders how to reproduce that kdm issue [22:54] apachelogger: better to test it a little bit before [22:54] so, we should SRU [22:54] maybe as an stable update [22:56] apachelogger: 5dc645016aa8aaa5ed3b5fde2a5d53405e3ce714 [22:59] thx [22:59] ok, maverick *is* broken [22:59] natty is not [23:00] fun [23:00] yofel: please dupe up the reports though [23:00] I'll do so [23:01] afiestas: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/474552 [23:01] Ubuntu bug 474552 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "backlight fn keys not working on sony vaio with nouveau driver" [Undecided,New] [23:01] also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/477828 [23:01] Ubuntu bug 477828 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "When I use Fn+key increase/decrease brightness, Powerdevil brightness OSD is displayed but brightness doesn't change" [Undecided,New] [23:01] apachelogger: not kde related, it should befixed somewhere else I think [23:02] the last one may be fixed by the sasme commit [23:04] right, in maverick kdm.postrm removes kdm.conf on purge and after that dpkg tries to do the same [23:04] so we did not SRU it [23:04] * apachelogger thought he asked someone to do that [23:04] :/ [23:04] god [23:05] these rotten old bugs do nothing for my nerves [23:09] afiestas: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/501824 [23:09] Ubuntu bug 501824 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "battery plasmoid in kde 4.3.85 does not decrease/increase brightness consistently" [Undecided,New] [23:09] apachelogger: too old? we need 4.6 testing at least [23:09] sice we are using upower now instead of HAL [23:10] ok [23:10] shadeslayer: scru you and your xps :P [23:10] afiestas: I wonder if bug 504680 is a driver issue or a krandr one [23:10] Launchpad bug 504680 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "Blank Screen On Resolution Change" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/504680 [23:12] apachelogger: it may not be, test with 4.7.1 to be sure (I fixed a lot of stuff in that version) [23:14] bug #634707 [23:14] Launchpad bug 634707 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu Maverick) "package kdm (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/634707 [23:14] apachelogger: there's your SRU that never got done [23:15] * yofel goes duping [23:19] I'm wondering though why people are getting that with >> 4.6.0a [23:19] it's practically impossible, unless dpkg didn't update the postrm [23:22] did I mention the kwallet backend for python-keyring makes it impossible to use launchpadlib? [23:23] http://paste.kde.org/129697/ [23:28] python is such a nice language [23:29] I always start emitting ears of joy when I triage bugs and stumble upon ever so many python tracebacks [23:29] in fact [23:29] I dare someone to cleanup the kdeadmin package's bugs [23:30] most of them are system-config-printer related? [23:30] there is also plasma plasmoids in pythorn [23:31] top crash0r is veromix of course [23:33] bug 827407 [23:33] fun [23:33] Launchpad bug 827407 in Kubuntu PPA "After upgrade to 4.7 kmail looses mails" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/827407 [23:35] apachelogger: btw. do you know where the icon for the activies plasma applet in the plasma widgetsexplorer (cashew -> add widgets) comes from? [23:35] it's missing [23:36] screenshot plz [23:36] https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/823830/+attachment/2265728/+files/activities.png [23:36] Ubuntu bug 823830 in Kubuntu PPA "Minor Glitches in KDE 4.7.0" [Undecided,Confirmed] [23:36] missing in up-to-date oneiric too [23:36] someone shoudl check out bug 682067 [23:36] Launchpad bug 682067 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "Not possible to log out and back in again" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/682067 [23:37] and neon in fact [23:37] because I'd close as kmsma [23:37] yofel: I am not sure there is one really [23:37] ... [23:38] the widget oviously has an icon itself, shouldn't it just use that? [23:38] look fooey like this [23:38] *looks [23:38] >>> grep Icon plasma-applet-org.kde.showActivityManager.desktop [23:38] Icon=activities [23:38] >>> locate activites.png [23:38] <<< 01:38.28 Mon Oct 03 2011!/usr/share/kde4/services [23:38] >>> locate activites |grep png [23:38] <<< 01:38.42 Mon Oct 03 2011!/usr/share/kde4/services [23:38] there is no icon [23:41] there is a preferences-activities.png which is used by the applet itself [23:41] guess I'll file an upstream bug later [23:46] yofel: bug 785081 [23:46] Launchpad bug 785081 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "package kdm (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: le sous-processus script post-removal installé a retourné une erreur de sortie d'état 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/785081 [23:47] afiestas: bug 510229 [23:47] Launchpad bug 510229 in sysvinit (Ubuntu) "KDE Power Applet doesn't work at startup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/510229 [23:47] sysvinit? [23:48] ah