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julmxHI, i am trying to install lubuntu on a 192MO memory laptop using the mini.iso , after booting on the usb key, it looks like the alternate iso, not minimal install. Is it OK ?09:56
szczuryes, minimal.iso uses the same installer. the difference is that mini.iso downloads everyhting from internet. alternate uses the local cd rom09:59
julmxok, thanks, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/AlternateInstall   isn t up to date then. I got the splash screen for a long time now, i just have to wait... idea about how long ?10:02
julmxfail, i mean https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall is not up tu date10:03
szczuri don't know, i used only CD for installation from mini.iso10:05
julmxthere s no network activity... so i am wondering10:07
julmxI can acces a console when i got the slpash screen ?10:08
julmxtty1 or something10:08
max_askum10:47
max_hi10:47
priamhello13:47
mark76Hey13:47
priami have a dual screen and a lubuntu13:50
priami would like to have an extended desktop13:50
priambut i have the same image on both screen13:50
mark76Not my area of expertise13:51
priamhmm13:51
priamand do you know someone that could help?13:51
mark76I suppose somebody here might13:52
phillwpriam: one moment...13:59
phillwpriam: http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=8413:59
priamok thanks !14:00
alecvmachi, italian channel? :D14:41
kosaidpohello guys15:04
kosaidpomy lubuntu became so slow and everytime  i plug a usb stick i see a .Trash folder i guess i have a virus whos makin my pc slow15:05
kosaidpoany idea how to fix this15:05
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kosaidpohello guys16:25
kosaidpoi wanna make my lubuntu partiton in the first how can i do that ??16:26
kosaidpois there a tool for this ?16:26
kosaidpothnaks ; ]16:26
IAmNotThatGuykosaidpo, you mean in the primary partition?16:32
kosaidpoIAmNotThatGuy: you kno i've read things about partitions nad primary n logic but still feel get nethin new16:33
kosaidpoIAmNotThatGuy: ill screen shot my gparted  ok16:33
IAmNotThatGuykay16:33
kosaidpoIAmNotThatGuy: my lubuntu became so slow idk why16:36
IAmNotThatGuykosaidpo, Updated lubuntu with no manually added startup applications is slow?16:38
kosaidpoIAmNotThatGuy: i have no startups apps tho16:39
Guest24672Hi there, I have the following message on a recently installed lubuntu: One or more XML syntax errors were found while parsing the Openbox configuration files. See stdout for more information. The last error seen was in file "/home/myname/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml" line 1, with message: Start tag expected, '<' not found16:39
kosaidpoIAmNotThatGuy: what does it do lxrandr ??16:40
kosaidpoGuest24672: i gues you shud add that > in that file16:41
IAmNotThatGuybrb on phone16:41
Guest24672kosaidpo: the file is empty! Shall I just add <16:43
kosaidpoIAmNotThatGuy: okies16:43
kosaidpoohh Guest2467216:44
kosaidpowant me to pass you mine ??16:44
Guest24672I would appreciate that16:44
IAmNotThatGuyRead http://home.roadrunner.com/~computertaijutsu/fluxopen.html if you have time Guest24672,16:45
benliaqhi, some lubuntu guru here?16:45
benliaqgoogle desktop guru?16:47
IAmNotThatGuy!ask | benliaq16:47
ubot5benliaq: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)16:47
IAmNotThatGuykosaidpo, back16:48
* IAmNotThatGuy is waiting for the screenshot16:48
benliaqgoogle desktop in lubuntu, open folders in firefox, instead a pcmanfm, any suggestion?16:48
kosaidpoGuest24672: here you go http://pastie.org/262757316:48
Guest24672kosaidpo: thanks16:49
kosaidpoIAmNotThatGuy: here you go http://i52.tinypic.com/27yzbzt.png16:49
kosaidpoGuest24672:  u16:49
kosaidpoGuest24672: uw16:49
IAmNotThatGuykosaidpo, and what do you want with your partitions?16:50
IAmNotThatGuybenliaq, Nothing on my mind. Googling didn't help?16:51
benliaqno, I try16:51
benliaqnobody knows16:51
IAmNotThatGuyAnd I am not sure about Other as we are emerging16:51
benliaqgoogle desktop replacement, compatible with lubuntu?16:51
kosaidpoIAmNotThatGuy: those ones where i have lubuntu i wanna make em first16:51
IAmNotThatGuyUnit193, any suggestions?16:52
IAmNotThatGuykosaidpo, Why?16:52
Unit193IAmNotThatGuy: On what part? There was on oddity about things opening in Chromium when it should have been PCManFM16:53
kosaidposo i can resize then add space to the other partition cus now if shrink my sda7 icant use the space that ill have16:53
kosaidpoIAmNotThatGuy: you got me now ?16:54
kosaidpobenliaq: whats u problem ??16:54
IAmNotThatGuypardon me. Gtg16:54
IAmNotThatGuybrb soon16:54
benliaqgoogle desktop, give me a good way to find files and folders16:55
benliaqbut when I try to open a folder, google desktop launchs firefox (or chrome), instead LXDE file explorer (pcmanfm)16:55
Guest24672kosaidpo: I have replaced the file and I no longer have the error message. Thanks again16:55
Unit193benliaq: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149904616:56
kosaidpobenliaq: i guess you can do that with pcmanfm and there is an app for that but i forgot its name  but ucan all time use pcmanfm just do the focus on pcmanfm then if the file u lookin start with D then type d n here you go i hop it helps16:56
benliaqok, i'll try16:57
benliaqthanks16:57
kosaidpoUnit193: http://i52.tinypic.com/27yzbzt.png i wanna make my sda7 come in the top of list how can i do that ??16:57
kosaidpoGuest24672: uw16:57
Unit193kosaidpo: You would have to boot off a live CD and do some major changes16:58
Unit193Best not to do it unless you really need to and you know what you are doing16:58
kosaidpoUnit193: yeh but im afraid to blow things up so i wanna be sure16:59
kosaidpoUnit193: correct me i have 2 tables partitions right ??16:59
kosaidpowhats best have only one ??16:59
Unit193kosaidpo: I don't understand what you are saying17:01
Unit193You only need one swap partition17:01
kosaidpoUnit193: cus i have kubuntu in the other i guess i shud modify the fstab right17:02
kosaidpokbunutu sux its so slow i jst installed cus i did some mistakes and i cudnt boot so i had to install sumthin so ican boot17:03
Unit193It's made for newer computers. Why do you want to change things around? Just remove the Kubuntu partitions and update grub17:04
kosaidpoUnit193: but iwont be able to use that space17:06
kosaidpoUnit193: i mean icant add it to my lubuntu table partition17:06
Unit193Why not? (We are the only ones talking, no need to direct it to me)17:07
Unit193http://gparted.sourceforge.net/larry/generalities/gparted.htm and http://gparted.sourceforge.net/larry/move/move.htm17:08
kosaidpookies i wont i jst want to make ur window pop up : D17:08
kosaidpohang ill show you17:08
Unit193It doesn't.17:08
Unit193Take a look at those links17:08
daniel__1damn irssi!17:09
kosaidpoi tho you use pidigin : ]17:10
kosaidposo i shud copy/ paste the partition ??17:11
Unit193You didn't read the guide. When you are messing with partitions, you need to make sure you know what you are doing (Or that you don't care about what you might delete(17:12
kosaidpoUnit193: ok17:12
kosaidpoill : ]17:13
kosaidpoUnit193: idk how to move that partition to my sda117:23
new2lubuntuso any idea why my wifi has to be turned on and off from time to time to restore connection after installing Lubuntu Restricted Extras package from the spm. ps im  a total noob here so please put up with any stupid questions.18:50
bioterrorgood question as restricted should not have anything driver related18:51
bioterrorit just installs fonts and stuff18:52
bioterrorsomeone correct me if I'm wrong18:52
new2lubunturestricted also dls java and enables flash i thnk :/18:54
new2lubuntuyea it does18:54
new2lubuntudo you think its my isp? maybe its only when i run transmission18:55
Unit193Depends: lubuntu-restricted-addons Recommends:ttf-mscorefonts-installer unrar libavcodec-extra-52 libmp4v2-018:56
kosaidpohello Unit193 Grr@ you i deleted that partition and updated grub but when i rebooted i got a gub rescue19:00
Unit193[13:12:16] < Unit193> When you are messing with partitions, you need to make sure you know what  you are doing (Or that you don't care about what you might delete)19:01
Unit193What do you mean by "grub rescue"?19:01
bioterrorrescue ;)19:02
bioterrorit's that grub "shell"19:02
Unit193Ah19:02
kosaidpoUnit193: yesh true i liked that haha as a proof but when i asked you how to get ride from my kubuntu pratition u told me to dleted it n update grub n idid but i got grub rescue and still dont kon how to move that partition19:03
phillwkosaidpo: If you've really made grub unhappy (you're not the 1st), then try http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=35 and get grub to re-install itself and have a look and see what is left?19:03
phillwkosaidpo: read the instructions carefully, you need to alter some of the commands for your own system!19:04
kosaidpophillw: thanks luckily i installed lubuntu on that patiton so ican boot now19:04
phillwkosaidpo: do you have a gparted boot CD?19:05
kosaidpophillw: no i have it only installed19:05
phillwkosaidpo: having a gparted boot CD can save so much grief. If you start messing with partitions on a drive that is part mounted, you are really asking for trouble.19:06
kosaidpophillw: me now iwanna move a partition hang on ill show u19:07
kosaidpophillw: here you go http://i52.tinypic.com/27yzbzt.png i wanna make the dev/sda3 included in sda219:08
phillwkosaidpo: head over to http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php a few minutes work that can save much head-aches!19:08
kosaidpophillw: ican make it on usb stick ight ?19:09
phillwkosaidpo: read the link :)19:09
kosaidpoyeh i saw19:09
phillwYour /sda2 is a logical partition and your sda3 is an extended partition. two very different animals.19:09
kosaidpophillw: i read about these type tho but still cant see the diffrence19:11
kosaidpophillw: so theres no way to make it ??19:11
phillwkosaidpo: I cannot go through it all, but I would strongly suggest you have a read of http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gparted.html it is the best tutorial I've come accross & explains all the differences and how they interact, along with dual booting / moving etc....19:13
phillwkosaidpo: it has a great area set to describe the differences between the two types :)19:15
kosaidpowell i read that we can oly have 4 primary patition but extended partitions can include from 1 to 32 primary partition thats all abt but idk how the heck ican get what i want19:17
phillwkosaidpo: then read the ENTIRE artcle & understand it. Else you will have the same problems again and again. Manual partitioning is for the faint of heart. I do not like doing it!19:19
kosaidpoi guess ill go read about it in french phillw :D thnaks19:21
zxy_64_khi, i'm using lubuntu lucid.  I would like to upgrade to 11.* lubuntu. is there a howto for upgrading, without full-blown reinstall from cd20:31
kosaidpozxy_64_k: traditional way back up ur data then upgrade20:32
amjjawadzxy_64_k, as far as I know,  you can't upgrade from 10.04 to 11.04 unless you ugrade to 10.1020:33
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amjjawadI'm one of those who prefer Clean Install20:33
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amjjawadafter all, backing up is the most important step only if you have something you care about and don't want to lose :)20:34
zxy_64_ki did apt-get dist-upgrade and it does nothing20:34
zxy_64_ksomeone said i shoud edit sources.list file, but i don't know if that is enough and i also don't know what to edit in that file20:35
amjjawadwhen you do "sudo apt-get update20:35
amjjawaddoes it work without problems?20:35
Unit193Just about like this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#Upgrading_from_10.1020:35
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zxy_64_kapt-get update works ok20:38
zxy_64_kdo-release-upgrade -d seems to be doing the job. thx for the link Unit19320:40
Unit193Remember that it's best to have lubuntu-desktop installed and make sure to go to 10.10 first20:41
Unit193amjjawad: I have to go, take it from here?20:41
amjjawadOk, no worries :)20:41
kosaidpoamjjawad: salam20:41
amjjawadtake care Unit193  :)20:41
amjjawadhello kosaidpo :)20:42
kosaidpoamjjawad: you're the guy from morocan team ?? ight ??20:42
amjjawadkosaidpo, no, I'm not20:42
kosaidpoamjjawad: so i supose your real name is jawad ??20:43
zxy_64_kUnit193, it goes to maverick20:43
amjjawadkosaidpo, no, it's not :)20:43
kosaidpohaha okies cool20:44
amjjawadzxy_64_k, ok that's good. Now you can go ahead and upgrade again to 11.0420:44
zxy_64_kcool20:44
amjjawadI mean type the same command to upgrade20:44
zxy_64_kthx for help20:44
amjjawadyou welcome :)20:44
kosaidpoguys if saved my / can i paste it again when i installl the new one ?? wont face any problem ?20:54
amjjawadyour /home you mean?20:56
kosaidpoamjjawad: i mean both my / and my /home ??20:57
amjjawadyou don't have to backup your /20:57
amjjawadwhy you want that?20:58
amjjawadare you trying to upgrade or re-install?20:58
kosaidpoto keep my programs already installed ;] well can i or not ?20:58
svkoskinwhy would you install the new one then?20:58
kosaidpocus my partition are so messed up and i cant use em to space up the others20:59
KM0201so you want to reinstall lubuntu, but you want to keep your current programs?  seriously, do you know what 'reinstall" means?20:59
KM0201you can back up your home directory and keep their configurations, but.. you'll have to reinstall your apps21:00
amjjawadKM0201, please be cool ;)21:00
kosaidpoKM0201: uhm no21:00
KM0201amjjawad: i am cool.. not really sure what you mean21:00
amjjawadI mean take it easy21:00
KM0201i am taking it easy... i think you read to much into what i say, so.. "you keep it cool"21:01
amjjawadperhaps I can see the deepest point of your words ;)21:01
KM0201kosaidpo: so what exactly are you trying to do?21:01
kosaidposo guys its not possible ?21:01
amjjawadanyway back to topic21:01
amjjawadkosaidpo, if you want to resize your partitions, you can do that without the need to re-install :)21:02
kosaidpoyeh guys i wanna past my old / after done installin the new  / is it possible21:02
KM0201kosaidpo: it might be possible, but i wouldn't not expect it to work21:02
phillwkosaidpo: how much data in /home?21:02
kosaidpophillw: not much  less then 6 G21:03
KM0201..21:03
phillwhow much do have on your primary partitons?21:03
phillwas in total space?21:03
kosaidpohere you go http://i52.tinypic.com/27yzbzt.png i wanna delete the sda1 and sda3 and use that space in the sda321:04
KM0201kosaidpo: that will take a LONG time w/o wiping the partitions and redoing everything (at least in my experience)... i woud back up /home  , embrace the horror, and reinstall (if that 6gigs is reallyt hat important to you anyway>21:05
kosaidpophillw: im not sure but you can see it here http://i52.tinypic.com/27yzbzt.png as my pc bein laggy21:05
amjjawadwhy u have two swap?21:05
kosaidpobrb guys21:05
phillwamjjawad: his map is a mess....21:06
amjjawadphillw, indeed21:06
amjjawadlet me have a look at it more deeply21:06
KM0201i would back up my home configuration, and nuke that whole drie.21:06
KM0201*drive21:06
amjjawadkosaidpo, how many Systems do you have? what partitions do you want to keep and what partitions do you want to get rid of?21:07
kosaidpoamjjawad: i installed that jsut so ican boot cus i had kubuntu on it and some guys told me if you wnna get ride of kubuntu just delete it then update-gub but when i did i got a grub rescue prompt in my face so i had to install wahtsever to boot21:08
kosaidpoamjjawad: i wanna get off sda1 and sda3 and i wanna use their space in sda221:09
amjjawadkosaidpo, as long as Kubuntu's Boot Loader is installed in /sda (MBR) then you can't just do that21:09
amjjawadwhere is your primary OS?21:09
amjjawadwhich partition?21:09
phillwKM0201: me also, there is no room on there for me to take a back up. You could risk resizing sda2 down, but without a b/up I would hate to do it :(21:09
KM0201phillw: yup.21:09
kosaidpobrb guys21:10
phillwKM0201: although I see little choice. Shrink sda2, remove sda1 & sda3, re-install sda1 as /home and rsync it from sda7 ...21:11
phillwnot something I'd like to try without a backup!21:11
phillwelse set sda1 as / and use sda3 as /home.... which ever way you do it... /home has no backup :(21:12
amjjawadkosaidpo, if I were you, I would backup my important date on an exteranl HDD or USB Drive and ... (1) from Device Menu > New Partition Table ... (2) Start to create your partition useing GParted / and /home and swap .... (3) make sure your swap is equal or higher your RAM .... (4) make sure to give enough space for /  so that you don't have to re-size it later on21:15
phillwamjjawad: if he had enough room to backup /home, this convo would not be happening :D21:19
amjjawadphillw, I said he needs to use external HDD so he doesn't have to use his internal HDD :)21:20
phillwamjjawad: does he have one that works?21:20
amjjawadI don't know he didn't say that yet21:20
amjjawadif not then there is plan B ;)21:20
phillwamjjawad: http://i52.tinypic.com/27yzbzt.png shows no sdb :)21:21
amjjawadphillw, perhaps he has one but it's not plugged in ;)21:22
amjjawadphillw, as you may know, if the device is NOT plugged in, it won't be shown in GParted21:22
phillwbottom line, you cannot take a backup of /home on that system within the existing system, as there is not enough room on the 2 primary partitions to hold it. Therefor, you would be resizing the extended partiton that holds it with no back up.21:22
phillwamjjawad: from memory, kos does not have an external HDD21:23
amjjawadphillw, again, there is always plan B. Anyway, he said brb and he didn't yet21:24
amjjawadI just removed 3 partitions today from my system and resize it without backup and it worked but YES, I do know it's not safe. Better safe than sorry. I'm just saying if he doesn't have another drive to use it as a backup, then resizeing the extended partition is the only way OR ...21:26
amjjawadPlan C: (1) delete sda6 ... (2) delete sda5 ... (3) resize the extended partition - reduce the size ... (4) give the remaining to new / and new swap then re-install21:28
amjjawadthat's all21:28
amjjawadok guys have to go21:35
amjjawadkosaidpo, I wrote all what you need to do IMHO. If you need further info, someone here may help or you can post on the Ubuntu Forum and PM me the link of your thread. I must go now21:36
amjjawadbye21:36
amjjawadkosaidpo, this is my link : http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=94182221:37
kosaidpoback guys21:52
kosaidpothanx guys and amjawad ,phillw21:54
phillwkosaidpo: if you do not have an external hard-drive, then you need to ensure that there will be no power-cuts. Just take it very gently, resize the extended area down in size. then reboot. If that works okay (and it should), then you will have enough free space to do the further surgical operations on your hard drive. Just remember that just like going into surgery as a human at a hospital - we cannot guarantee 100% success.21:58
w30philsw is now Dr. Conrad Murray22:07
w30phillw, just joking, sorry22:08
phillww30: no offence taken. As I don't even know who Dr. Conrad Murray there is little point :P22:09
w30phillw, Michael Jackson's doctor22:10
phillwso I have just found out... at least I now know who Michael Jackson is as well :D22:11
silverlightningis 11.10 on it's way?23:26
phillwsilverlightning: shh, do not let everyone know... the clock is at http://www.thisisthecountdown.com/23:48
phillwif we can have it for the Olympics, our Uk advertising guys thought we should have one :)23:49
silverlightningcool23:51
silverlightningthanks23:51
silverlightninglol23:51
silverlightningthe world stands still23:51
silverlightningI always suspected23:51
silverlightningtime is only a hoax23:52
phillwwell, the original olympic clock installed in London actually broke down... Much laughter, as for once it was not actually built in GB :D23:53
silverlightningI shall try the latest ubuntu for hardware that was a bit difficult a few months ago23:53
silverlightningmajor trouble with hp and dell laptops23:53
silverlightning I am hoping 11.10 will have all the right fixes'23:56

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