[09:56] <julmx> HI, i am trying to install lubuntu on a 192MO memory laptop using the mini.iso , after booting on the usb key, it looks like the alternate iso, not minimal install. Is it OK ?
[09:59] <szczur> yes, minimal.iso uses the same installer. the difference is that mini.iso downloads everyhting from internet. alternate uses the local cd rom
[10:02] <julmx> ok, thanks, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/AlternateInstall   isn t up to date then. I got the splash screen for a long time now, i just have to wait... idea about how long ?
[10:03] <julmx> fail, i mean https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall is not up tu date
[10:05] <szczur> i don't know, i used only CD for installation from mini.iso
[10:07] <julmx> there s no network activity... so i am wondering
[10:08] <julmx> I can acces a console when i got the slpash screen ?
[10:08] <julmx> tty1 or something
[10:47] <max_> askum
[10:47] <max_> hi
[13:47] <priam> hello
[13:47] <mark76> Hey
[13:50] <priam> i have a dual screen and a lubuntu
[13:50] <priam> i would like to have an extended desktop
[13:50] <priam> but i have the same image on both screen
[13:51] <mark76> Not my area of expertise
[13:51] <priam> hmm
[13:51] <priam> and do you know someone that could help?
[13:52] <mark76> I suppose somebody here might
[13:59] <phillw> priam: one moment...
[13:59] <phillw> priam: http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=84
[14:00] <priam> ok thanks !
[14:41] <alecvmac> hi, italian channel? :D
[15:04] <kosaidpo> hello guys
[15:05] <kosaidpo> my lubuntu became so slow and everytime  i plug a usb stick i see a .Trash folder i guess i have a virus whos makin my pc slow
[15:05] <kosaidpo> any idea how to fix this
[16:25] <kosaidpo> hello guys
[16:26] <kosaidpo> i wanna make my lubuntu partiton in the first how can i do that ??
[16:26] <kosaidpo> is there a tool for this ?
[16:26] <kosaidpo> thnaks ; ]
[16:32] <IAmNotThatGuy> kosaidpo, you mean in the primary partition?
[16:33] <kosaidpo> IAmNotThatGuy: you kno i've read things about partitions nad primary n logic but still feel get nethin new
[16:33] <kosaidpo> IAmNotThatGuy: ill screen shot my gparted  ok
[16:33] <IAmNotThatGuy> kay
[16:36] <kosaidpo> IAmNotThatGuy: my lubuntu became so slow idk why
[16:38] <IAmNotThatGuy> kosaidpo, Updated lubuntu with no manually added startup applications is slow?
[16:39] <kosaidpo> IAmNotThatGuy: i have no startups apps tho
[16:39] <Guest24672> Hi there, I have the following message on a recently installed lubuntu: One or more XML syntax errors were found while parsing the Openbox configuration files. See stdout for more information. The last error seen was in file "/home/myname/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml" line 1, with message: Start tag expected, '<' not found
[16:40] <kosaidpo> IAmNotThatGuy: what does it do lxrandr ??
[16:41] <kosaidpo> Guest24672: i gues you shud add that > in that file
[16:41] <IAmNotThatGuy> brb on phone
[16:43] <Guest24672> kosaidpo: the file is empty! Shall I just add <
[16:43] <kosaidpo> IAmNotThatGuy: okies
[16:44] <kosaidpo> ohh Guest24672
[16:44] <kosaidpo> want me to pass you mine ??
[16:44] <Guest24672> I would appreciate that
[16:45] <IAmNotThatGuy> Read http://home.roadrunner.com/~computertaijutsu/fluxopen.html if you have time Guest24672,
[16:45] <benliaq> hi, some lubuntu guru here?
[16:47] <benliaq> google desktop guru?
[16:47] <IAmNotThatGuy> !ask | benliaq
[16:48] <IAmNotThatGuy> kosaidpo, back
[16:48]  * IAmNotThatGuy is waiting for the screenshot
[16:48] <benliaq> google desktop in lubuntu, open folders in firefox, instead a pcmanfm, any suggestion?
[16:48] <kosaidpo> Guest24672: here you go http://pastie.org/2627573
[16:49] <Guest24672> kosaidpo: thanks
[16:49] <kosaidpo> IAmNotThatGuy: here you go http://i52.tinypic.com/27yzbzt.png
[16:49] <kosaidpo> Guest24672:  u
[16:49] <kosaidpo> Guest24672: uw
[16:50] <IAmNotThatGuy> kosaidpo, and what do you want with your partitions?
[16:51] <IAmNotThatGuy> benliaq, Nothing on my mind. Googling didn't help?
[16:51] <benliaq> no, I try
[16:51] <benliaq> nobody knows
[16:51] <IAmNotThatGuy> And I am not sure about Other as we are emerging
[16:51] <benliaq> google desktop replacement, compatible with lubuntu?
[16:51] <kosaidpo> IAmNotThatGuy: those ones where i have lubuntu i wanna make em first
[16:52] <IAmNotThatGuy> Unit193, any suggestions?
[16:52] <IAmNotThatGuy> kosaidpo, Why?
[16:53] <Unit193> IAmNotThatGuy: On what part? There was on oddity about things opening in Chromium when it should have been PCManFM
[16:53] <kosaidpo> so i can resize then add space to the other partition cus now if shrink my sda7 icant use the space that ill have
[16:54] <kosaidpo> IAmNotThatGuy: you got me now ?
[16:54] <kosaidpo> benliaq: whats u problem ??
[16:54] <IAmNotThatGuy> pardon me. Gtg
[16:54] <IAmNotThatGuy> brb soon
[16:55] <benliaq> google desktop, give me a good way to find files and folders
[16:55] <benliaq> but when I try to open a folder, google desktop launchs firefox (or chrome), instead LXDE file explorer (pcmanfm)
[16:55] <Guest24672> kosaidpo: I have replaced the file and I no longer have the error message. Thanks again
[16:56] <Unit193> benliaq: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1499046
[16:56] <kosaidpo> benliaq: i guess you can do that with pcmanfm and there is an app for that but i forgot its name  but ucan all time use pcmanfm just do the focus on pcmanfm then if the file u lookin start with D then type d n here you go i hop it helps
[16:57] <benliaq> ok, i'll try
[16:57] <benliaq> thanks
[16:57] <kosaidpo> Unit193: http://i52.tinypic.com/27yzbzt.png i wanna make my sda7 come in the top of list how can i do that ??
[16:57] <kosaidpo> Guest24672: uw
[16:58] <Unit193> kosaidpo: You would have to boot off a live CD and do some major changes
[16:58] <Unit193> Best not to do it unless you really need to and you know what you are doing
[16:59] <kosaidpo> Unit193: yeh but im afraid to blow things up so i wanna be sure
[16:59] <kosaidpo> Unit193: correct me i have 2 tables partitions right ??
[16:59] <kosaidpo> whats best have only one ??
[17:01] <Unit193> kosaidpo: I don't understand what you are saying
[17:01] <Unit193> You only need one swap partition
[17:02] <kosaidpo> Unit193: cus i have kubuntu in the other i guess i shud modify the fstab right
[17:03] <kosaidpo> kbunutu sux its so slow i jst installed cus i did some mistakes and i cudnt boot so i had to install sumthin so ican boot
[17:04] <Unit193> It's made for newer computers. Why do you want to change things around? Just remove the Kubuntu partitions and update grub
[17:06] <kosaidpo> Unit193: but iwont be able to use that space
[17:06] <kosaidpo> Unit193: i mean icant add it to my lubuntu table partition
[17:07] <Unit193> Why not? (We are the only ones talking, no need to direct it to me)
[17:08] <Unit193> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/larry/generalities/gparted.htm and http://gparted.sourceforge.net/larry/move/move.htm
[17:08] <kosaidpo> okies i wont i jst want to make ur window pop up : D
[17:08] <kosaidpo> hang ill show you
[17:08] <Unit193> It doesn't.
[17:08] <Unit193> Take a look at those links
[17:09] <daniel__1> damn irssi!
[17:10] <kosaidpo> i tho you use pidigin : ]
[17:11] <kosaidpo> so i shud copy/ paste the partition ??
[17:12] <Unit193> You didn't read the guide. When you are messing with partitions, you need to make sure you know what you are doing (Or that you don't care about what you might delete(
[17:12] <kosaidpo> Unit193: ok
[17:13] <kosaidpo> ill : ]
[17:23] <kosaidpo> Unit193: idk how to move that partition to my sda1
[18:50] <new2lubuntu> so any idea why my wifi has to be turned on and off from time to time to restore connection after installing Lubuntu Restricted Extras package from the spm. ps im  a total noob here so please put up with any stupid questions.
[18:51] <bioterror> good question as restricted should not have anything driver related
[18:52] <bioterror> it just installs fonts and stuff
[18:52] <bioterror> someone correct me if I'm wrong
[18:54] <new2lubuntu> restricted also dls java and enables flash i thnk :/
[18:54] <new2lubuntu> yea it does
[18:55] <new2lubuntu> do you think its my isp? maybe its only when i run transmission
[18:56] <Unit193> Depends: lubuntu-restricted-addons Recommends:ttf-mscorefonts-installer unrar libavcodec-extra-52 libmp4v2-0
[19:00] <kosaidpo> hello Unit193 Grr@ you i deleted that partition and updated grub but when i rebooted i got a gub rescue
[19:01] <Unit193> [13:12:16] < Unit193> When you are messing with partitions, you need to make sure you know what  you are doing (Or that you don't care about what you might delete)
[19:01] <Unit193> What do you mean by "grub rescue"?
[19:02] <bioterror> rescue ;)
[19:02] <bioterror> it's that grub "shell"
[19:02] <Unit193> Ah
[19:03] <kosaidpo> Unit193: yesh true i liked that haha as a proof but when i asked you how to get ride from my kubuntu pratition u told me to dleted it n update grub n idid but i got grub rescue and still dont kon how to move that partition
[19:03] <phillw> kosaidpo: If you've really made grub unhappy (you're not the 1st), then try http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=35 and get grub to re-install itself and have a look and see what is left?
[19:04] <phillw> kosaidpo: read the instructions carefully, you need to alter some of the commands for your own system!
[19:04] <kosaidpo> phillw: thanks luckily i installed lubuntu on that patiton so ican boot now
[19:05] <phillw> kosaidpo: do you have a gparted boot CD?
[19:05] <kosaidpo> phillw: no i have it only installed
[19:06] <phillw> kosaidpo: having a gparted boot CD can save so much grief. If you start messing with partitions on a drive that is part mounted, you are really asking for trouble.
[19:07] <kosaidpo> phillw: me now iwanna move a partition hang on ill show u
[19:08] <kosaidpo> phillw: here you go http://i52.tinypic.com/27yzbzt.png i wanna make the dev/sda3 included in sda2
[19:08] <phillw> kosaidpo: head over to http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php a few minutes work that can save much head-aches!
[19:09] <kosaidpo> phillw: ican make it on usb stick ight ?
[19:09] <phillw> kosaidpo: read the link :)
[19:09] <kosaidpo> yeh i saw
[19:09] <phillw> Your /sda2 is a logical partition and your sda3 is an extended partition. two very different animals.
[19:11] <kosaidpo> phillw: i read about these type tho but still cant see the diffrence
[19:11] <kosaidpo> phillw: so theres no way to make it ??
[19:13] <phillw> kosaidpo: I cannot go through it all, but I would strongly suggest you have a read of http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gparted.html it is the best tutorial I've come accross & explains all the differences and how they interact, along with dual booting / moving etc....
[19:15] <phillw> kosaidpo: it has a great area set to describe the differences between the two types :)
[19:17] <kosaidpo> well i read that we can oly have 4 primary patition but extended partitions can include from 1 to 32 primary partition thats all abt but idk how the heck ican get what i want
[19:19] <phillw> kosaidpo: then read the ENTIRE artcle & understand it. Else you will have the same problems again and again. Manual partitioning is for the faint of heart. I do not like doing it!
[19:21] <kosaidpo> i guess ill go read about it in french phillw :D thnaks
[20:31] <zxy_64_k> hi, i'm using lubuntu lucid.  I would like to upgrade to 11.* lubuntu. is there a howto for upgrading, without full-blown reinstall from cd
[20:32] <kosaidpo> zxy_64_k: traditional way back up ur data then upgrade
[20:33] <amjjawad> zxy_64_k, as far as I know,  you can't upgrade from 10.04 to 11.04 unless you ugrade to 10.10
[20:33] <amjjawad> I'm one of those who prefer Clean Install
[20:34] <amjjawad> after all, backing up is the most important step only if you have something you care about and don't want to lose :)
[20:34] <zxy_64_k> i did apt-get dist-upgrade and it does nothing
[20:35] <zxy_64_k> someone said i shoud edit sources.list file, but i don't know if that is enough and i also don't know what to edit in that file
[20:35] <amjjawad> when you do "sudo apt-get update
[20:35] <amjjawad> does it work without problems?
[20:35] <Unit193> Just about like this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#Upgrading_from_10.10
[20:38] <zxy_64_k> apt-get update works ok
[20:40] <zxy_64_k> do-release-upgrade -d seems to be doing the job. thx for the link Unit193
[20:41] <Unit193> Remember that it's best to have lubuntu-desktop installed and make sure to go to 10.10 first
[20:41] <Unit193> amjjawad: I have to go, take it from here?
[20:41] <amjjawad> Ok, no worries :)
[20:41] <kosaidpo> amjjawad: salam
[20:41] <amjjawad> take care Unit193  :)
[20:42] <amjjawad> hello kosaidpo :)
[20:42] <kosaidpo> amjjawad: you're the guy from morocan team ?? ight ??
[20:42] <amjjawad> kosaidpo, no, I'm not
[20:43] <kosaidpo> amjjawad: so i supose your real name is jawad ??
[20:43] <zxy_64_k> Unit193, it goes to maverick
[20:43] <amjjawad> kosaidpo, no, it's not :)
[20:44] <kosaidpo> haha okies cool
[20:44] <amjjawad> zxy_64_k, ok that's good. Now you can go ahead and upgrade again to 11.04
[20:44] <zxy_64_k> cool
[20:44] <amjjawad> I mean type the same command to upgrade
[20:44] <zxy_64_k> thx for help
[20:44] <amjjawad> you welcome :)
[20:54] <kosaidpo> guys if saved my / can i paste it again when i installl the new one ?? wont face any problem ?
[20:56] <amjjawad> your /home you mean?
[20:57] <kosaidpo> amjjawad: i mean both my / and my /home ??
[20:57] <amjjawad> you don't have to backup your /
[20:58] <amjjawad> why you want that?
[20:58] <amjjawad> are you trying to upgrade or re-install?
[20:58] <kosaidpo> to keep my programs already installed ;] well can i or not ?
[20:58] <svkoskin> why would you install the new one then?
[20:59] <kosaidpo> cus my partition are so messed up and i cant use em to space up the others
[20:59] <KM0201> so you want to reinstall lubuntu, but you want to keep your current programs?  seriously, do you know what 'reinstall" means?
[21:00] <KM0201> you can back up your home directory and keep their configurations, but.. you'll have to reinstall your apps
[21:00] <amjjawad> KM0201, please be cool ;)
[21:00] <kosaidpo> KM0201: uhm no
[21:00] <KM0201> amjjawad: i am cool.. not really sure what you mean
[21:00] <amjjawad> I mean take it easy
[21:01] <KM0201> i am taking it easy... i think you read to much into what i say, so.. "you keep it cool"
[21:01] <amjjawad> perhaps I can see the deepest point of your words ;)
[21:01] <KM0201> kosaidpo: so what exactly are you trying to do?
[21:01] <kosaidpo> so guys its not possible ?
[21:01] <amjjawad> anyway back to topic
[21:02] <amjjawad> kosaidpo, if you want to resize your partitions, you can do that without the need to re-install :)
[21:02] <kosaidpo> yeh guys i wanna past my old / after done installin the new  / is it possible
[21:02] <KM0201> kosaidpo: it might be possible, but i wouldn't not expect it to work
[21:02] <phillw> kosaidpo: how much data in /home?
[21:03] <kosaidpo> phillw: not much  less then 6 G
[21:03] <KM0201> ..
[21:03] <phillw> how much do have on your primary partitons?
[21:03] <phillw> as in total space?
[21:04] <kosaidpo> here you go http://i52.tinypic.com/27yzbzt.png i wanna delete the sda1 and sda3 and use that space in the sda3
[21:05] <KM0201> kosaidpo: that will take a LONG time w/o wiping the partitions and redoing everything (at least in my experience)... i woud back up /home  , embrace the horror, and reinstall (if that 6gigs is reallyt hat important to you anyway>
[21:05] <kosaidpo> phillw: im not sure but you can see it here http://i52.tinypic.com/27yzbzt.png as my pc bein laggy
[21:05] <amjjawad> why u have two swap?
[21:05] <kosaidpo> brb guys
[21:06] <phillw> amjjawad: his map is a mess....
[21:06] <amjjawad> phillw, indeed
[21:06] <amjjawad> let me have a look at it more deeply
[21:06] <KM0201> i would back up my home configuration, and nuke that whole drie.
[21:06] <KM0201> *drive
[21:07] <amjjawad> kosaidpo, how many Systems do you have? what partitions do you want to keep and what partitions do you want to get rid of?
[21:08] <kosaidpo> amjjawad: i installed that jsut so ican boot cus i had kubuntu on it and some guys told me if you wnna get ride of kubuntu just delete it then update-gub but when i did i got a grub rescue prompt in my face so i had to install wahtsever to boot
[21:09] <kosaidpo> amjjawad: i wanna get off sda1 and sda3 and i wanna use their space in sda2
[21:09] <amjjawad> kosaidpo, as long as Kubuntu's Boot Loader is installed in /sda (MBR) then you can't just do that
[21:09] <amjjawad> where is your primary OS?
[21:09] <amjjawad> which partition?
[21:09] <phillw> KM0201: me also, there is no room on there for me to take a back up. You could risk resizing sda2 down, but without a b/up I would hate to do it :(
[21:09] <KM0201> phillw: yup.
[21:10] <kosaidpo> brb guys
[21:11] <phillw> KM0201: although I see little choice. Shrink sda2, remove sda1 & sda3, re-install sda1 as /home and rsync it from sda7 ...
[21:11] <phillw> not something I'd like to try without a backup!
[21:12] <phillw> else set sda1 as / and use sda3 as /home.... which ever way you do it... /home has no backup :(
[21:15] <amjjawad> kosaidpo, if I were you, I would backup my important date on an exteranl HDD or USB Drive and ... (1) from Device Menu > New Partition Table ... (2) Start to create your partition useing GParted / and /home and swap .... (3) make sure your swap is equal or higher your RAM .... (4) make sure to give enough space for /  so that you don't have to re-size it later on
[21:19] <phillw> amjjawad: if he had enough room to backup /home, this convo would not be happening :D
[21:20] <amjjawad> phillw, I said he needs to use external HDD so he doesn't have to use his internal HDD :)
[21:20] <phillw> amjjawad: does he have one that works?
[21:20] <amjjawad> I don't know he didn't say that yet
[21:20] <amjjawad> if not then there is plan B ;)
[21:21] <phillw> amjjawad: http://i52.tinypic.com/27yzbzt.png shows no sdb :)
[21:22] <amjjawad> phillw, perhaps he has one but it's not plugged in ;)
[21:22] <amjjawad> phillw, as you may know, if the device is NOT plugged in, it won't be shown in GParted
[21:22] <phillw> bottom line, you cannot take a backup of /home on that system within the existing system, as there is not enough room on the 2 primary partitions to hold it. Therefor, you would be resizing the extended partiton that holds it with no back up.
[21:23] <phillw> amjjawad: from memory, kos does not have an external HDD
[21:24] <amjjawad> phillw, again, there is always plan B. Anyway, he said brb and he didn't yet
[21:26] <amjjawad> I just removed 3 partitions today from my system and resize it without backup and it worked but YES, I do know it's not safe. Better safe than sorry. I'm just saying if he doesn't have another drive to use it as a backup, then resizeing the extended partition is the only way OR ...
[21:28] <amjjawad> Plan C: (1) delete sda6 ... (2) delete sda5 ... (3) resize the extended partition - reduce the size ... (4) give the remaining to new / and new swap then re-install
[21:28] <amjjawad> that's all
[21:35] <amjjawad> ok guys have to go
[21:36] <amjjawad> kosaidpo, I wrote all what you need to do IMHO. If you need further info, someone here may help or you can post on the Ubuntu Forum and PM me the link of your thread. I must go now
[21:36] <amjjawad> bye
[21:37] <amjjawad> kosaidpo, this is my link : http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822
[21:52] <kosaidpo> back guys
[21:54] <kosaidpo> thanx guys and amjawad ,phillw
[21:58] <phillw> kosaidpo: if you do not have an external hard-drive, then you need to ensure that there will be no power-cuts. Just take it very gently, resize the extended area down in size. then reboot. If that works okay (and it should), then you will have enough free space to do the further surgical operations on your hard drive. Just remember that just like going into surgery as a human at a hospital - we cannot guarantee 100% success.
[22:07] <w30> philsw is now Dr. Conrad Murray
[22:08] <w30> phillw, just joking, sorry
[22:09] <phillw> w30: no offence taken. As I don't even know who Dr. Conrad Murray there is little point :P
[22:10] <w30> phillw, Michael Jackson's doctor
[22:11] <phillw> so I have just found out... at least I now know who Michael Jackson is as well :D
[23:26] <silverlightning> is 11.10 on it's way?
[23:48] <phillw> silverlightning: shh, do not let everyone know... the clock is at http://www.thisisthecountdown.com/
[23:49] <phillw> if we can have it for the Olympics, our Uk advertising guys thought we should have one :)
[23:51] <silverlightning> cool
[23:51] <silverlightning> thanks
[23:51] <silverlightning> lol
[23:51] <silverlightning> the world stands still
[23:51] <silverlightning> I always suspected
[23:52] <silverlightning> time is only a hoax
[23:53] <phillw> well, the original olympic clock installed in London actually broke down... Much laughter, as for once it was not actually built in GB :D
[23:53] <silverlightning> I shall try the latest ubuntu for hardware that was a bit difficult a few months ago
[23:53] <silverlightning> major trouble with hp and dell laptops
[23:56] <silverlightning>  I am hoping 11.10 will have all the right fixes'