=== yofel_ is now known as yofel [00:07] jbicha2, ping [00:17] hi [00:17] err:ole:CoCreateInstance apartment not initialised [00:17] err:winediag:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo Direct rendering is disabled, most likely your OpenGL drivers haven't been installed correctly [00:17] fixme:advapi:SetSecurityInfo stub [00:17] what's that? [00:17] it apears just after upgrade [00:45] hello! [00:50] o/ Roasted [00:56] Hello ! [01:08] Anyone know if the GNOME 3.2 quick preview will be in 11.10 ? [01:08] MarkGreenwood, you mean sushi? [01:08] Nope, well kinda. It is officialy integrated in Nautilus now. [01:08] (Nautilus 3.2) [01:08] how do you mean? [01:09] Just a second, I will get the link. [01:09] http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.2/ [01:09] Go look at the quick preview thing [01:10] MarkGreenwood, the thing is, the framework is integrated, but sushi itself is an extra [01:10] i am developing packages for it as we speak [01:10] they are 99% done [01:10] once we get debian-gnome to sign off on it, it will either be in oneiric, or in an official ppa [01:11] i am using the software based on the packages now, and it is awesome [01:11] the biggest issue is what to call it, since there is already an unrelated source package called "sushi" in debian [01:11] Oh great ! So, the quick preview itself is an extra ? [01:12] well, you just install the packages and it works immediately [01:12] Ok [01:12] but it previews just about everything. movies, music, text files, pdf files [01:12] Are they available now ? Sorry, I'm no "connaisseur" in the matter :P [01:13] i don't want people using the packaging scripts right now because we probably will be changing the name, which would make things difficult on anyone who installed the earlier version [01:14] Oh ok ! Well, it's good news to know that you are almost done though :) [01:14] it's every bit as awesome as it , looks though [01:14] very much like the osx previewer [01:14] Yes, I know. I've been usin Gloobus-Preview in the past. This one looks much cleaner thouh. [01:16] ? [01:17] Oh by the way, if I'm missing a lot of g's, it's because my key is half-broke [01:19] bjsnider: nautilus-sushi [01:20] bjsnider: where can I get the packages that you are running on? [01:20] what about it? [01:20] bjsnider: I'm saying nautilus-sushi is what it should be called [01:21] to avoid collisions [01:21] i think we're going to call it gnome-sushi [01:21] org.gnome.nautilus.sushi [01:21] I'm a massive namespace fan [01:21] anyway, i'm not going to ful up the conrol file with upgrades or conflicts at the moment so i would prefer to be the only one running it until the name is finalized [01:22] ah okay [01:22] so far after a couple of days it is totally bulletproof. not one crash [01:22] so what's the difference between it and gloobus preview? [01:23] i'm not 100% familiar with what gloobus is doing these days [01:23] lol [01:23] good difference [01:23] also gnome-sushi's site is not down [01:26] jtaylor, if that guy who was trying to build gnome-documents comes back he can find packages here: https://launchpad.net/~jbicha/+archive/extra [01:28] sushi definitely won't be on the main CD though, way past time for that [01:31] bjsnider So, do you have any ETA on when it should be ready ? I really can't wait to see it in action ! :D [01:31] bjsnider: can I winge on about libsdl1.2-debian:i386 some more [01:32] MarkGreenwood, asap [01:32] but you can build it yourself [01:32] if you desperately want to test it [01:33] graingert, that was a dependency problem right? [01:33] yep [01:33] Well no :P I'm just very eager :P I shall be patient ! [01:33] #854196 [01:33] *winge* *winge* *znses* *winge* [01:34] :D [01:34] snes9x is better though [01:35] urm [01:35] that seems not to be in my repos [01:35] hi, my sreensaver and lockscreen do not work. [01:36] bjsnider: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/snes9x-x [01:36] Package not available in this suite. [01:37] it's kicking around some ppas [01:37] apparently it's been deleted, bjsnider [01:38] so it looks like ubuntu can't run snes games [01:38] bbiab [01:38] "the most annoying f__king abbreviation to look at. ever" [01:45] bug 854196 [01:45] Launchpad bug 854196 in libsdl1.2 (Ubuntu) "libsdl1.2debian:i386 removes libsdl1.2debian" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/854196 [01:46] bjsnider: yep that one [01:46] bjsnider: also zsnes does something odd to software center [01:49] the problem is you don't have the exact problem listed there [01:50] bjsnider: what is the exact problem? [01:50] it seems to be right to me? [01:52] oh, right. you put it right in the title [01:52] most times i expect the title to be something vague like "problem with so-and-so" [01:53] I put the issue in the title [01:53] and the solution in the description [01:54] to maintain DRY [01:54] needs more info [01:54] bjsnider: mark it as such [01:54] put the result of the command to install zsnes [01:55] and the result of the command to remove libsdl1.2debian [01:55] then they will see why this is such a problem [01:55] why is it confirmed [01:55] and not more info then? [01:55] I could make another bug and mark it as a dupe [01:58] maybe this isn't a real bug [01:59] every :i386 conflicts with the amd64 counterpart like this, and they all force out necesary packages [02:01] i mean look what it tries to do if you ask for pulseaudio:i386 [02:03] actually, no, it is a bug. because it should pull in i386 versions of everything it forces out [02:04] the bug is not that it forces out its amd64 counterpart. it's that it doesn't replace the other packages [02:18] graingert, i'll bet you can work around this [02:21] bjsnider: why does it force out the amd64 counterpart? [02:21] how is the amd64 apps supposed to work without them? [02:21] what's the point of multi-arch if you can't have both apps working? [02:22] the point is that they are the same thing, so naturally they have to conflict [02:22] one is all you need [02:22] but here's how you could work around it: [02:23] so it would pull in i386 vlc [02:23] etc [02:23] hi,anyone key how to lock sreen? my problem is :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1853236 [02:24] try to install libsdl1.2debian:i386, note the packages it wants to force out. slap an :i386 on them and ask for them to be installed and then libsdl1.2debian:i386 [02:25] if that works without forcing anything out except libsdll1.2debian, you've got the workaround [02:25] zhiwei: what happens if you run gnome-screensaver-command -l [02:25] bjsnider: I don't think that's a good plan [02:26] why not? [02:26] bjsnider: isn't the whole point of multi-arch to have 64bit and 32bit apps work together [02:26] eg skype [02:26] surely the stuff skype depends on doesn't force out 64bit versions [02:26] if they fix the problem you'll end up in the same situation. same packages installed, it will just be done for you [02:26] or does the i386 lib include the 64bit binary? [02:27] the whole thing has to be one or the other [02:29] graingert: noting happened. it seems that there is no gnome-screensaver-command [02:30] zhiwei: that will be your bug [02:31] graingert: how to resovle? [02:31] zhiwei: install it [02:32] graingert: /usr/bin/gnome-screensaver-command is on my ubuntu [02:34] it's version 3.2.0 [02:44] graingert, i see what happened with snes9x. the reason it was deleted is that the debian packaging scripts haven't been touched in 5 years [02:45] but there have been new upstream releases in that time, the most recent in april [02:45] zsnes has not had a new upstream release in 4 years [02:50] graingert, https://launchpad.net/~bearoso/+archive/ppa/+files/snes9x-gtk_1.53.81-1~maverick1_amd64.deb [02:50] that is installable [02:56] bjsnider: sorry I missed that link [02:56] as compiz decided to crap out [02:57] graingert, https://launchpad.net/~bearoso/+archive/ppa/+files/snes9x-gtk_1.53.81-1~maverick1_amd64.deb [02:57] bjsnider: oh [02:57] it installs and runs here without asking for any changes [02:57] hmm [02:57] maybe not [02:58] graingert: hi, I still can't user sreen lock...\ === micahg_ is now known as micahg [02:58] zhiwei: even with the app installed? [02:59] zhiwei: so the app just hangs? [02:59] what do you get for ps -ef | grep gnome-screensaver [03:16] hi [03:16] is oneric looking good [03:35] Hello. I'm using 11.10, tried to install nvidia's proprietary driver from cli, and now x is borked. What is the proper method for reconfiguring x? dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg didn't work for me. [03:37] hi there [03:37] is there a ppa for catalyst 11.9 [03:37] for oneiric [03:39] so I tried to load up nvidia settings to get twinview working and it's erroring out on no xorg.conf file found. === Pilif|afk is now known as Pilif12p [04:00] hey guys.. nvidia settings set to twinview but no secondary monitor showing up??? [04:16] I'm having difficulty getting X started after an update. I can manually startx, but I can't get any gdm or the like. [04:17] There isn't anything bad in Xorg.0.log. It just sits at a black screen on boot. [04:18] Qwell_: same here [04:18] fantastic [04:18] are you using LightDM or GDM, and is this your first boot after upgrading to Oneiric? [04:18] i have to go to recovery mode and resume to normal boot frm there [04:19] I've rebooted several times. It was some update in the last day or so. [04:19] and gdm, unless lightdm was forced upon me without me knowing [04:19] I think I heard about a problem with GDM, you should probably try LightDM [04:20] sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm [04:23] anyone using catalyst 11.9 [04:31] Well, that was fun. LightDM decided it was going to eat my VTs. [04:34] As far as I can tell, plymouth(?) is trying to hand off to something. Now that I've switched to gdm, it's just sitting there, now even getting to the black screen. [05:01] My issue is #811411. [05:01] I'll bite my tongue and not rant about /run/ here. Thanks for the help. [05:09] JFC [05:09] How do I restart lightdm [05:09] What is the equivalent of /etc/init.d/gdm restart? [05:13] sudo service lightdm restart [05:16] didn't work when I tried it. [05:24] try it with start maybe [05:27] Hi [05:27] Alright, I feel like an idiot, I've upgraded to 11.10, but now in nautilus the "up" button is gone (to navigate to the parent directory) ... how do I switch it on? [05:30] dodgyville: you can't, you can use the "breadcrumbs" or you can use Go>Open Parent or the keyboard shortcut [05:31] dodgyville, isn't it a left arrow now in the top panel, I'm in Natty at the .moment and never use that method [05:32] urlin2u: the left arrow is the previous directory, not the parent :( [05:32] dodgyville, ah, I see. [05:32] jbicha: hmm, thanks ... how do I switch from location to breadcrumbs? [05:34] try Esc [05:35] nup [06:45] I just upgraded and it seems to have done away with all my old desktop settings... Is there some way to recover them? [06:45] The default font size (related to the DPI setting I think) has about doubled and I can't locate the setting for it [06:51] Hi I just did a "sudo apt-get update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade" and I get a warning like "GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com oneiric InRelease: File /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/extras.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_oneiric_InRelease doesn't start with a clearsigned message [06:51] " for all the repos that I have addded. What could be the problem here? [07:02] ... Where'd all the gnome settings apps go, what happened to the theme control panel [07:03] The dask directs a search for "Theme" to "Appearence" which only lets me change my desktop background, not very helpful [07:09] AAA_awright: appearence has 3 themes in there now, AIK [07:09] I can't configure any of them [07:10] AAA_awright: you have to hardcode the text file if you want... [07:10] AAA_awright: some where in /usr/share/themes/* [07:10] I'm on this channel with my desktop. I have an EEEPC that, since I upgraded to 11.10 can't find wireless anymore. Anyone wanna tell me what to do? The applet in the taskbar isn't there and I can't access wireless anymore [07:11] I don't recall needing to modify system files to do any of this [07:13] AAA_awright: they are not system file, just some "simple" xml files ;) [07:13] Last time I checked /usr/share contains shared data [07:14] Is anyone there? [07:15] Greetings [07:15] Hi, BigWhale [07:16] hey sburwood1. [07:16] I'm looking for help with getting wireless back for my eeepc [07:17] Hi. How do I go about debugging hibernate, ie. the reason that it's not in the menu. [07:17] It's not in my menu either [07:17] I don't think it works [07:18] AAA_awright: If you're talking to me, I can't get wireless to work, with or without the icon. And this since I upgraded to 11.10 [07:18] sburwood1: what eepc? which wifi-chipset [07:19] iceroot: As for the chipset, haven't a clue. It's a 1005HA [07:19] sburwood1: Uh, I've only been using wired... Wireless appears to be connected for me but let's see here [07:19] Yeah, works for me so idk what to say [07:19] iceroot: I'm a relative newbie ... I can follow orders, but don't know them [07:22] AAA_awright: I've cables, but haven't yet tried to do wired. Of course, if I have a portable PC, it isn't necessarily meant to stay put [07:23] I think I'll have to get rid of my RAID5 and install on a single drive [07:23] alternate CD seems to be broken [07:23] :/ [07:39] I installed the drivers off the ATI website, now everything is broken. [07:40] Sorry, graphics card drivers. [07:41] Wallpaper shows, as does rainlendar, but I get no unity bar etc... [07:41] When I try to switch windows, it looks like metacity. [08:08] OK so what's the best way to get hold of the ATI drivers, jockey or manually? [08:19] hello, how can I turn my touchpad off? when I try it with the hardware switch the indicator pops up, but it does not get disabled === htorque_ is now known as htorque [09:09] hii [09:09] Ubuntu Oneiric beta one asking for partial upgrade?? SHould I continue? [09:35] hmm [10:11] hid3, how do I report a touchpad related problem? I tried ubuntu-bug but it lacks the option for that [10:11] *hi === tikohumsup_ is now known as Rajsun [12:02] does ubuntu+1 beta update gracefully into full when the time is right, or is it treated as a release-update from beta to regular? [12:03] and why you missed out on calling it Orly Owl... [12:04] rooks: It is supposed to, too simple a name I reckon. [12:06] just hope that P get's a sane name ^^ [12:06] *gets [12:06] * rooks calls dibs on Pink Pony [12:51] Hiyas all [13:09] my system only boots up to gui in recovery mode when I select resume normal mode [13:10] it won't boot in normal mode [13:10] this is after I installed catalyst 11.9 drivers [13:10] any idea? === JanC_ is now known as JanC [13:42] I installed gnome-shell... the system tray is not working how I expected... i.e. if I minimize xchat or emesene I don't see anymore the program and I must kill it; how can I solve this? [13:49] i'm getting some system crashes on 11.10 beta-2, with a whole bunch of text ending in "[ 770.650053] panic occurred, switching back to text console" and then i have to hard reboot. any advice on solving this? also, how should i report this bug? willing to do some work for a good bug report if needed. [14:00] jatoo: try checking kern.log [14:00] siganderson, there's a notification plugin for xchat-gnome that works with gnome-shell [14:03] aj00200: i have it open now, i've found the point where the time jumps (to when i rebooted) but nothing stands out (don't really know what i'm looking for though) [14:04] bjsnider, but do I need to install some other thing? It seems that nothing is working in the system tray [14:04] not only xchat [14:04] jatoo, you did install all of the hundreds of updates that have come out since beta 2 right? [14:05] jatoo: that [ 770.650053] line should be in there. There might be a clue to what went wrong. Sadly, I've never been able to find the source of my Kernel panics either... [14:05] yep, and i'm on ubuntu main [14:06] ok, it looks like that line isn't there :S it gets up to ~764 [14:06] siganderson, what exactly do you expect will happen? maybe you're not aware of some changes that have happened between gnome 2 and gnome 3 [14:10] the top panel no longer has a system tray at all. the notification area is along the bottom of the screen and is normally hidden. you can check it by moving the mouse to the bottom right corner, or go to overview [14:11] also, i'm not sure minimizing windows is necessary anymore. i'd just give each app its own virtual desktop and let them notify you using the notification area if they need attention [14:16] jatoo: maybe see this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelOops [14:17] Hey there. [14:17] Can I report a problem from here? [14:18] onder: no. You should probably report bugs on Launchpad [14:18] aj00200: cool thanks. [14:19] i'd like to ask few questions, How is ubuntu 11.10 suppose to support accessibility with orca? will unity work with orca, i'm in believe it didn't on 11.04 [14:21] I'm going to guess that that question would be better directed at teh people who make Orca [14:22] hi, how can I enable visual effects in oneiric? [14:22] They should be enabled by default, peppy. [14:23] well it's not for me... [14:24] plus I can't open the visual effects setting screen from the appearance screen [14:25] Ubuntu 11.10 doesn't have that window. [14:25] Maybe installing CompizConfigSettingsManager can help you. [14:26] Search it on USC by typing shortly "ccsm". [14:27] onder: ok, will give it a try [14:33] peppy, please give us feedback through here. [14:34] will do [14:34] ccsm crashes [14:37] Well, that package has some problems. When you finished up customizing, you may need to logout and re-login. [14:39] onder: ok, I have to go to the gaz station anyway so will shutdown and reboot once I'm back... let you know how the reboot went [14:46] I can't seem to resize by shadow [14:46] on Unity oneiric [14:46] is that expected? === Arnold is now known as Guest4575 === Guest4575 is now known as Arnold [14:51] hi [14:56] my laptop suspends after a period of time although i set the buttery settings so doesn't suspend . [15:04] os_: are you sure it's suppends? maybe a screensaver? [15:10] os_: yep this is a known issue [15:10] os_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/860485 [15:10] Ubuntu bug 860485 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu Oneiric) "bad default setting: suspend after 30min when plugged in" [Critical,Fix committed] [15:11] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/860485/comments/15 seems to work for me [15:11] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/860485/comments/20 is a better soln [15:11] Ubuntu bug 860485 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu Oneiric) "bad default setting: suspend after 30min when plugged in" [Critical,Fix committed] [15:12] I'm having trouble downloading from the 'additional drivers' - can't get the ATI one. [15:13] benoliver999: what happens? [15:13] graingert: I'm just going to try again to get it exaclty right. [15:14] jockey-gtk is the app [15:14] graingert: Do I go for post-release? [15:14] graingert: That's what I tried before. [15:15] I'm on version current [Recommended] [15:15] graingert: OK I'm trying that. [15:15] go for the recomended one [15:16] None of them say recommended, there are two options. Both are FGLRX, one says '(post release updates)' [15:17] odd [15:17] go for the non beta one I guess [15:18] OK I didn't get an error this time [15:18] Rebooting [15:19] benoliver999: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTQ0MA [15:20] It seems to have worked, but I'm getting tearing with video, and when dragging windows around. [15:22] I don't remember that well, but wasn't there some sort of ATI settings manager you could download? [15:23] graingert: Thanks for the link btw [15:30] Hello, can I somehow enable GS Desktop recording (Ctrt+Alt+Shift+R) in Ubuntu 11.10 ? [15:34] ok thanks everyone [15:38] has anyone else noticed window snapping problems? [15:38] as in windows won't unsnap? [15:39] ali1234, not me [15:40] it might be because i have two monitors [15:40] ali1234, aha, I have just one.. but you can also try with one to see [15:42] Whats the Ctrt+Alt+Shift+R function so I can add it on a shortcut? === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 [15:47] anyone knows how Ctrt+Alt+Shift+R works on GS? [16:03] onder: hi again, I've tried to restart as discussed earlier and now I must start unity manually after logging in, the visual effects work now even if ccsm still crashes every once in a while [16:06] peppy: That compiz related bugs... [16:06] onder: yep [16:07] onder: after installing the ccsm i had to restart and now when ever I login unitiy is of... [16:08] peppy: I would like to help you but that is compiz package related bug and unfortunately I can't help on this. [16:09] Why in WIN7 system overall after the installation of 11.10BETA2, prompts the hard disk error, even after the update can not enter the system! That the disc reformatted after a no disk error! [16:09] peppy: I'm facing with same issue. [16:09] onder: no problem, will continue to dig a little deeper... let you know if I found out something [16:10] I have tried to solve this by logging into Unity 2D, logout and log back in to the normal Unity. [16:10] And that helped me. [16:10] is there unity music lens for clementine? :) that would be awesome [16:10] peppy: Thanks. :]. [16:12] mokoloko: In this release, all lenses available through Dash. [16:14] mokoloko: If you are asking about a specific lens for Clementine, the answer you will get is going to be "No!". [16:22] Greetings... [16:23] Did anyone report any problems with booting from raid+lvm? [16:24] onder ok :) heh hopefully then someone wants to make one [16:26] mokolok: Maybe it will be you: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Lenses :]. [16:26] Hi room. I'm planning my moves to Oneiric. I currently use Evolution, with lots of folders and filters, mainly for mailing lists. Is there any way I can transfer these over to Thunderbird, recreating them anew is proving to be a less than trivial task. [16:27] :D mmm m [16:29] Hi [16:29] SpudWLike: This link may help you: http://maketecheasier.com/how-to-migrate-from-evolution-to-thunderbird-in-ubuntu-intrepid/2008/12/04 [16:29] Does anyone installed Oneiric beta2 + gnome3 ? [16:30] Yes. [16:30] I' m trying to get gnome-shell-extension to work but ... doesn' t seem to work well [16:30] it seems that some extension are not read properly... or are invalid. I don' t see them in gnome tweak tool. [16:30] Also, other exts are showed but does nothing... ie. alternalte-tab, dock. [16:31] onder, how did you install gnome-shell exts? [16:31] aboudreault: I did not do anything special, it has installed itself when I'm updating the system. [16:32] So sad. Installed Oneiric on laptop, everything was perfect. Did updates and rebooted, now can't get desktop. No messages, no panels, no icons, can't switch to any consoles. Have to alt+sysrq to get out of it. [16:33] and you installed extensions? [16:36] No. [16:36] ok [16:37] Seven_Six_Two: Logout and login to Unity 2D, then logout again and log back in default Unity. [16:38] onder, is that a fix or a test? [16:39] Seven_Six_Two: It's a solution for me. [16:40] Sometimes I'm facing with same issue. [16:40] onder, ok, one moment. I'll give it a shot. do you have to do that frequently? [16:44] hm. nope. unity2d works, kde works too. still no unity [16:45] and no panels, popups or icons [16:47] I really don't understand why the terminals (alt+ctrl+F1) aren't working. They weren't disabled like alt+ctrl+backspace was, were they? [16:49] thanks for your help onder. I'm just going to use opensuse for this one [16:58] for being so close to a release date, this channel is surprisingly dead [16:58] How do I need to enable wireless? I am administrator of the computer, but don't know the command line to enable the wireless [16:59] It's on an EEEPC [16:59] Seven_Six_Two: I am there to ask something [16:59] sburwood1, you're using oneiric? [17:00] yes, beta 2 [17:00] Seven_Six_Two: Yes, beta 2 [17:00] Seven_Six_Two: The EEEPC is using the 32 bit version [17:00] Seven_Six_Two, only dead because it's sunday [17:01] bjsnider: Any answer to the question to enable wireless? [17:02] Well, I'll be back in a half hour because I'm going to eat dinner [17:02] c u soon [17:02] sburwood1, wireless should be enabled by default [17:02] sburwood1, I experienced a bug that caused no networks to be shown [17:04] Seven_Six_Two: It was with 11.04. Since I upgraded to oneric, my EEE doesn't have any wireless. I opened oneric with lxde and found the icon that said (I confirmed it by clicking on the icon) that the wireless was disabled, period [17:05] Seven_Six_Two: It says "Wireless Networks" and, uncer that, it says "wireless is disabled" [17:05] Seven_Six_Two: Can't be any clearer than that [17:05] sburwood1, sorry, not sure. I just ended up logging out and in to kde. [17:05] sburwood1, It's a beta though, and not quite ready [17:06] Seven_Six_Two: Yes, but a beta 2 should be close to ready, shouldn't it? [17:06] sburwood1, it should be, but there's 2 weeks left. I'm not doing any more updates until the release [17:06] Seven_Six_Two: And I don't have kde listed as an option to boot [17:07] be back soon [17:14] damn, I can' t get extension to be showed in gnome tweak tool [17:15] aboudreault, alt+f type lg [17:15] alt+f2 [17:15] you can check error msgs [17:17] all the extensions have to be updated for 3.2, the api has changed a bit [17:18] even alt+f2 doesn't work [17:18] lg command not found [17:19] bjsnider, I installed the extension via git. Are they supposed to be updated? [17:19] the official extensions have not been updated yet, so they won't work [17:19] so are there extension I can use now with ubuntu oneiric? [17:20] and how can I know if an extension will work or not. [17:22] an extension will work if, in metadata.json, it says gnome-shell version is 3.2 [17:24] bjsnider, Could I downgrade to gnome-shell 3.0 ? [17:24] actually the extensions look like htey should work [17:24] they'll get close anyway [17:24] they've had function main replaced by function init [17:26] go to ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/ and make sure the gnome-shell version is 3.2.0 in each of the metadata.json files [17:27] afterwards, restart gnome-shell by doing alt+f2 'r' [17:28] can' t get alt-f2 to show [17:29] that usually means gnome-shell isn't running [17:29] I see that the Shut Down extension still uses the main function... I assume it will not work even if I change the metadata [17:31] it might create its own function main but as long as it has init it should work, or get close to working [17:37] Will 11.10 ship with gnome 3.2 or < 3.2? [17:38] 3.2 is already in oneiric [17:38] bjsnider: Ah, ok. Thanks. I just downloaded the lastest ISO (I thought) and it says 3.1.92. [17:39] 3.1.92 is just 3.2 development version [17:41] I'd expect the release will have 3.2.1 or such (if the first bugfix release of GNOME is out by then) [17:41]