[05:20] <ikt> sunday arvo sunny day
[05:29] <ntrly_ow> nm on 10.04.1 keeps asling for wlan password even though it's correct. how do i fix this?
[05:30] <ntrly_ow> *asking
[05:33] <ntrly_ow> Atheros AR2413
[05:34] <ntrly_ow> nm-applet 0.8
[06:19] <ikt> ntrly_ow: 
[06:19] <ntrly_ow> hi
[06:19] <ikt> heya :)
[06:19] <ntrly_ow> help
[06:19] <ntrly_ow> still buggered
[06:20] <ikt> are you able to update ubuntu 10.04 to the latest and see if that makes a difference?
[06:20] <ikt> iirc they're up to 10.04.4?
[06:20] <ikt> 10.04.3
[06:21] <ikt> is your mirror set to update from optus?
[06:21] <ntrly_ow> not my pc, helping a friend on the phone
[06:21] <ikt> oh
[06:21] <ntrly_ow> yeah |:
[06:22] <ikt> if worse comes to worse
[06:22] <ikt> switch over to wicd
[06:22] <ikt> and get rid of network manager
[06:22] <ntrly_ow> yeah 
[06:22] <ikt> it may have been 10.04 that I had nm issues as well
[06:22] <ikt> wicd fixed everything
[06:22] <ikt> then in 10.10 nm worked again so I haven't bothered with wicd since then
[06:26] <ntrly_ow> dmesg says 'failed to wake up the mac chip'
[06:26] <ikt> sagaci_: seen this?
[06:26] <ikt> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/ubuntu-manual-project-oneiric/
[06:28] <ikt> it's a laptop?
[06:28] <ikt> acer aspire one?
[06:28] <ntrly_ow> desktop
[06:28] <ikt> hrmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[06:29] <ikt> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/432353
[06:29] <ikt> I like how Mark Shuttleworth had this issue
[06:29] <ntrly_ow> Atheros AR2413
[06:29] <sagaci> ikt: no, I hadn't seen that
[06:30] <sagaci> but thanks... I'd probably only help if they coordinate their translations via lp
[06:30] <sagaci> hmm they do
[06:30] <ikt> nice :)
[06:31] <ikt> ntrly_ow: i can't see the status of the bug because kernel.org is down :(
[06:31] <ntrly_ow> 0o
[06:33] <ikt> ntrly_ow: http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15382
[06:33] <gorilla> ewww.
[06:34] <ikt> get them to send you the logs and then submit a bug on lp i reckon
[06:36] <ikt> heh so many people with wireless problems
[06:37]  * ikt pats his cat6...
[06:37] <ntrly_ow> id keep an ethernet cable as a backup anyway
[06:38] <ntrly_ow> or just tell network mangler to bugger off
[06:38] <ntrly_ow> etc
[06:38] <ntrly_ow> waiting for my friend to call if it doesnt work
[06:38] <ntrly_ow> bbl
[06:43] <ikt> kk
[06:55]  * gorilla phone ikt's council to report the excess cats. Only two per household is allowed.
[07:47] <ikt> =o
[07:47] <ikt> http://imgur.com/3eree
[10:11] <gggs> hey guys, I want to create a secure fileserver, I need someone to tell me if it'd work;
[10:11] <gggs> start an ssh server for sftp only (disable shell access, chroot to ~/filehost/), use certificate-based auth only (or give accounts random passwords), and I control access by users generating their own ssh key & sending me the .pub key, and adding it manually. Would this work?
[10:13] <head_victim> gggs: I'm not really sure about that sort of thing, maybe try the mailing list? I know there's heaps more people who read that than are in the room right now
[10:16] <gggs> head_victim: It's probably quicker for me just to give it a go & try (or alternatively: an ftps server), I just wanted to see if someone here had any idea
[10:30] <jargonfactory> gggs: yo - ftps would probably be a good idea for a secure file server <- don quote me on this ;)
[10:33] <jargonfactory> hi folks \o.
[10:33] <gggs> jargonfactory: That's what thinking now too, but that involves a conventional user/pass auth instead of asymmetric keypairs
[10:37] <ntrly_ow> got it fixed
[10:38] <ntrly_ow> updated network manager related stuff by usb tethering phone and using mobile internet
[10:40] <jargonfactory> gggs: ftps with username/password seems fine to me - uses SSL AFAIK
[10:41] <jargonfactory> gggs: unless you want chrooted sftp which does pubkey auth :)
[10:42] <gggs> jargonfactory: Yea that was my first thought, it'd be more awesome but probably a lot more work too :)
[10:45] <gggs> and I guess using ftps means I can keep a conventional ssh server for LAN use, and the ftps for WAN
[10:48] <jargonfactory> gggs: you should be able to key-based auth with ftps (at least that's what this protftpd mod doc tells me) - http://www.castaglia.org/proftpd/modules/mod_sftp.html
[10:59] <gggs> jargonfactory: hey you're right, "SFTPAuthorizedUserKeys"
[11:01] <gggs> not sure how many clients would support it
[11:02] <gggs> ftps sounds like a better option, I could even add something to the crontab that starts and kills the server at specific times
[17:12] <xannen> anyone awake?