[03:46] <ScottSanbar> firefox crashing on flash - Ubuntu 11.04/FireFox 7.0.1/Flash Plugin 10.3.183.10-0natty1 - Google no help - any suggestions?  Crashes every time, since yesterday (recent udates)
[03:48] <bodhizazen> what version of flash ? 32 or 64 bit ?
[03:48] <ScottSanbar> Just a minute ...
[03:50] <bodhizazen> I have been using the 11 beta, now RC - http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer11.html
[03:50] <ScottSanbar> Don't know - how do I see that?
[03:50] <bodhizazen> uname -m
[03:51] <bodhizazen> looks like the plugin in 10.3.x
[03:51] <ScottSanbar> i686
[03:51] <bodhizazen> OK, so 32 bit
[03:51] <ScottSanbar> yes
[03:51] <bodhizazen> personally I would remove your current flash version
[03:51] <ScottSanbar> then do what?
[03:51] <bodhizazen> sudo apt-get remove flashnonfree I think it is
[03:52] <ScottSanbar> ok, then just reinstall or what?
[03:52] <bodhizazen> flashplugin-nonfree
[03:52] <bodhizazen> download the RC from here : http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer11.html
[03:52] <bodhizazen> the 32 bit tar ball
[03:53] <bodhizazen> extract it (I save it in ~/src/flash)
[03:53] <bodhizazen> then sudo cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[03:54] <bodhizazen> then re-start ff and see if it is now working
[03:54] <ScottSanbar> FYI:  scott@scotts2ub:~/code/cpp/randconverse/randconverse-1.0$ dpkg -l | grep -i flash
[03:54] <ScottSanbar> ii  flashplugin-installer                 10.3.183.10ubuntu0.11.04.1                 Adobe Flash Player plugin installer
[03:55] <bodhizazen> ok, aye remove that thing =)
[03:55] <ScottSanbar> is there something wrong with it?
[03:55] <bodhizazen> you said it is not working
[03:55] <ScottSanbar> why does it say "installer"?
[03:55] <ScottSanbar> true
[03:55] <bodhizazen> it is almost certainly a script to download , extract, and install the flash plugin
[03:55] <ScottSanbar> I meant was there a known issue with it ... not just something specific to me, like my video card or something ...
[03:56] <bodhizazen> IDK, I had problems with it and went to the flash 11 beta a while ago
[03:56] <bodhizazen> but I was running the 32 bit flash on a 64 bit os
[03:56] <ScottSanbar> OK, seems safe enough to try - just a file in the plugins directory ...
[03:57] <bodhizazen> yep
[03:57] <bodhizazen> easy enough to un-do
[03:57] <seidos> fyi, i stopped using flash entirely.  trying to do all html5 whenever possible
[03:57] <ScottSanbar> If you are interested, I am doing it now - just a minute, and I'll let you know what happens
[03:57] <bodhizazen> +1 seidos
[03:57] <ScottSanbar> Thanks
[03:58] <bodhizazen> seidos, http://bodhizazen.net/img/Myah/myah.html
[03:58] <seidos> bodhizazen: i've seen it, skiing, cute ^_^
[03:58] <bodhizazen> html5 + webm
[03:59] <seidos> yaw i've been doing the youtube.com/html5 trial.  ff does webm, i just tried epiphany today.  it supports h.264
[03:59] <bodhizazen> The page source is 7 lines long
[03:59] <seidos> i guess that shouldn't be surprising
[03:59] <seidos> i hear h.264 is evil though
[03:59] <bodhizazen> Ah, I threw that page together to try out html5
[03:59] <seidos> iirc i did a ctrl-u on the page to look at it
[04:00] <bodhizazen> h.264 is evil
[04:00] <seidos> just revisited the source, i'd probably do something like it if i had a place to host the video file
[04:01] <bodhizazen> I convert whole DVD to h.264 , so my children can watch videos on my wife's cell phone, I think they end up taking up about 150 or so mb
[04:01] <seidos> so are the files smaller than webm?
[04:01] <bodhizazen> seidos, =)
[04:02] <bodhizazen> not sure about that, I think webm is smaller, but the cell phone only plays h.264
[04:02] <seidos> ah, android?
[04:05] <ScottSanbar> scott@scotts2ub:~/Downloads/flash$ sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-installer
[04:05] <ScottSanbar> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:05] <ScottSanbar> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[04:06] <ScottSanbar> ?
[04:07] <bodhizazen> you running a graphical package manager ScottSanbar ?
[04:07] <ScottSanbar> duh ... yes ... (embarrassed) ... thanks
[04:07] <bodhizazen> and I would purge rather then remove
[04:07] <ScottSanbar> why purge?  How?
[04:08] <bodhizazen> purge removes everything, remove leaves config files
[04:08] <bodhizazen> sudo apt-get purge foo
[04:08] <ScottSanbar> oh, yah ... I remember now ... good idea ... thanks
[04:13] <ScottSanbar> no crash when uninstalled, still crashes with rc1
[04:14] <bodhizazen> what page is crashing ScottSanbar ? and did you restart firefox ?
[04:15] <ScottSanbar> different pages, had to restart firefox after crash (several times), cms.bsu.edu/
[04:15] <ScottSanbar> http;//cms.bsu.edu
[04:16] <bodhizazen> page loads fine here
[04:17] <ScottSanbar> flash website loads flash fine (adobe), though
[04:17] <bodhizazen> In a terminal, open firefox -P
[04:17] <bodhizazen> create a new profile
[04:17] <bodhizazen> could be one of your extensions
[04:18] <bodhizazen> you can try disabling all of them and enable them one at a time
[04:31] <ScottSanbar> Thank you very much, bodhizazen - you have been very helpful!  Still not working, but I have a plan to try.
[04:32] <bodhizazen> very odd ScottSanbar
[04:32] <bodhizazen> Can you past another page that id broken for you ?
[04:33] <ScottSanbar> There was at least one other page, but I do not remember what it was - result of a search.
[04:34] <ScottSanbar> may have been more pages, but I do not remember
[04:34] <bodhizazen> OK, well most pages work ?
[04:34] <bodhizazen> If I can reproduce the problem you are having ...
[04:34] <bodhizazen> I still suspect one of your extensions at this point
[04:34] <ScottSanbar> I don't know - just tried flash.com and it worked.  yah - it would be nice if you could reproduce.  Know any intense flash pages?
[04:34] <bodhizazen> proxy server of any kind ?
[04:34] <ScottSanbar> no
[04:35] <bodhizazen> http://www.webkinz.com/
[04:37] <bodhizazen> The site says you need to install flash, but it works
[04:37] <bodhizazen> "Take a tour"
[04:38] <ScottSanbar> yes - works fine ... I'll just avoid ball state.  Oklahoma University just stomped them 63-6 or something tonight, anyway ... ;)
[04:38] <ScottSanbar> it did not say "you need to install flash" for me, though
[04:39] <ScottSanbar> sometimes football just isn't fair
[04:40] <bodhizazen> OK, well you have flash 11 RC, it has some nice features as flash goes, just watch the page I gave you for updates from time to time
[04:41] <ScottSanbar> ok, thanks very much, again. BTW, my name is Scott Sanbar (obiously) ... nice to meet you.
[04:41] <ScottSanbar> s/obiously/obviously/
[04:42] <bodhizazen> sorry I was not able to fix your flash problem
[04:42] <ScottSanbar> no problem.  I learned some valuable stuff, and have a route to take to do more trouble shooting if I wish
[04:43] <bodhizazen> sometimes it is a problem with javascript, you can try another browser, midori or chromium or opera
[04:43] <ScottSanbar> ok, I have chrome - just a minute
[04:45] <ScottSanbar> chrome works fine
[04:45] <bodhizazen> there you go =)
[04:45] <bodhizazen> so it is a firefox problem and not a flash problem
[04:46] <ScottSanbar> this only happened after the most recent firefox upgrade yesterday, as a matter of fact - all makes sense now
[04:49] <ScottSanbar> How's the weather in Montana these days?
[04:49] <ScottSanbar> :)
[04:50] <bodhizazen> has been nice and warm
[04:51] <ScottSanbar> Oklahoma has been incredibly beautiful lately - we are very fortunate.
[04:51] <ScottSanbar> perfect fall - we get those about every other year
[04:51] <bodhizazen> nice
[04:51] <ScottSanbar> well, that was after 50+ days straight of over 100 degrees
[04:51] <bodhizazen> It has been in the 80s and 90s for the most part, dropped to the 70s last few days
[04:52] <ScottSanbar> yah, were no wind and 70s for highs, sunny, crisp mornings - beautiful!
[04:52] <ScottSanbar> s/were/we're/
[05:24] <philipballew> bodhizazen, frdora goes to grub rescue as well
[05:25] <bodhizazen> philipballew, very odd indeed
[05:25]  * bodhizazen wonders if it is a BIOS problem of some kind
[05:25] <philipballew> how would i find out bodhizazen ?
[05:25] <philipballew> i should be able to manually mount my partition maybe
[05:26] <bodhizazen> fedora is grub1
[05:26] <bodhizazen> so what happens when you try to manually boot ?
[05:26] <bodhizazen> root (hd 0,0)
[05:27] <bodhizazen> kernel /boot/vmlin root= ...
[05:27] <bodhizazen> initrd /boot/init ...
[05:27] <bodhizazen> boot
[05:27] <bodhizazen> grub uses tab completion =)
[05:27] <philipballew> how do i manually boot?
[05:28] <seidos> he just told you how philipballew
[05:28] <philipballew> :) seidos :)
[05:28] <seidos> i think :)
[05:28] <seidos> i haven't tried those commands in awhile, and only did it once
[05:29] <philipballew> bodhizazen, is there one of those that boots it?
[05:31] <seidos> !grub
[05:31] <ubot2> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[05:31] <philipballew> !grub1
[05:31] <ubot2> grub 1 is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub for Karmic onwards
[05:31] <seidos> i think the 2nd link may have some grub rescue stuff
[05:36] <philipballew> eureka!!! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1014708
[05:37] <bodhizazen> lol
[05:38] <philipballew> bodhizazen, what? :)
[05:39] <philipballew> eureka!!!  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549653
[05:39] <philipballew> that works to maybe ^
[05:39] <bodhizazen> not sure about that thread philipballew
[05:40] <bodhizazen> To boot from a grub prompt ...
[05:40] <philipballew> hum. ill keep looking
[05:41] <bodhizazen> you need to specify the root partition in grub-speak, the kernel, the root partition (in linux-speak), and the initramfs
[05:41] <bodhizazen> You can use tab completion, just like bash
[05:41] <bodhizazen> boot (hd 0,0)
[05:41] <bodhizazen> That would be sda1
[05:41] <bodhizazen> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-version_number root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet splash
[05:42] <bodhizazen> initrd /boot/initrd-version_number
[05:42] <bodhizazen> boot
[05:43] <philipballew> alright, so if im running fedora on here currently it would be that? what do you think causes that error?
[05:45] <philipballew> bodhizazen, It says unknown command boot
[05:51] <philipballew> well im lost :)
[05:52] <bodhizazen> philipballew, are you at a grub prompt ?
[05:52] <bodhizazen> or did you boot the fedora live CD
[05:53] <philipballew> im at grub prompt bod
[05:53] <bodhizazen> where is fedora installed ?
[05:54] <philipballew> on my harddrive. though i have 2 of them i think its whatever the default is
[05:54] <philipballew> sd 0 then?
[05:56] <bodhizazen> first HD is sda in linux , hd0 to grub
[05:56] <bodhizazen> so what did it say when you entered
[05:56] <bodhizazen> root (hd0,0)
[05:58] <philipballew> unknown command root
[06:00] <bodhizazen> That does not sound like grub 1
[06:00] <bodhizazen> what version of Fedora ?
[06:00] <bodhizazen> did you download f16 ?
[06:01] <bodhizazen> set root=(hd0,1)
[06:02] <philipballew> fedora 15
[06:02] <urlin2u> philipballew, did you ever run that bootscript, it would take out a bit of the variables here.
[06:03] <philipballew> urlin2u, id need to boot into a live usb to do that. and out of grub
[06:04] <urlin2u> philipballew, I would follow bodhizazen , but is this the same HD that has the debuan?
[06:04] <urlin2u> debian
[06:05] <urlin2u> orsame computer the second HD? philipballew
[06:05] <philipballew> yeah, but now im trying fedora
[06:06] <urlin2u> philipballew, basically  wasn't sure if bodhizazen new if the debian install which is grub2.
[06:06] <urlin2u> if=of
[06:06] <philipballew> i can install debian again
[06:06] <philipballew> no big deal
[06:07] <philipballew> ubuntu as well
[06:07] <urlin2u> philipballew, sure, grub2 is great for picking up the others including fedora, I always have a grub2 OS for just that reason.
[06:07] <philipballew> bodhizazen, in order to runkernel /boot/vmlinuz-version_number root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet splash id need to know what kernal i hav
[06:09] <bodhizazen> yes, but you can use tab completion
[06:09] <bodhizazen> type vmlin<tab>
[06:10] <philipballew> tab does not work for me :). it seems that grub may have peoblems with this computer
[06:10] <philipballew> maybe i should boot with a live cd and re install
[06:10] <bodhizazen> hitting tab twice bring up a menu ?
[06:11] <philipballew> nothing
[06:11] <philipballew> i even hit it like 5 times
[06:11] <philipballew> if only you lived in sd id buy you lunch to look at it
[06:23] <philipballew> bodhizazen, what am i doing wrong?
[06:25] <bodhizazen> I am not sure philipballew
[06:26] <philipballew> i think im gonna boot with a livecd and check the dick then reinstall grub
[06:26] <bodhizazen> When you installed Fedora, did you make a boot partition ?
[06:26] <bodhizazen> use LVM ?
[06:26] <philipballew> *disc
[06:26] <philipballew> no i did not
[06:26] <philipballew> it did it for me
[06:26] <philipballew> i selected my hd i pit my system on as the boot loader
[06:29] <philipballew> bodhizazen, thats just my idea
[06:31] <bodhizazen> philipballew, boot a live CD and take a look at your partitions and what is on them
[06:31] <philipballew> ok. hold on
[06:49] <philipballew> bodhizazen, check this out http://imagebin.org/177063
[06:49]  * bodhizazen looks
[06:50] <bodhizazen> OK, so default fedora =)
[06:50] <bodhizazen> when you boot
[06:50]  * philipballew agrees
[06:50] <bodhizazen> you can use root (hd1,0)
[06:50] <philipballew> should now that i am in a live usb do this from grub?
[06:50] <bodhizazen> in the sdb1 partition, do you see a kernel ?
[06:51] <bodhizazen> and a /grub directory ?
[06:51] <philipballew> where would i look?
[06:51] <philipballew> ah sorry
[06:53] <bodhizazen> sure, take a look
[06:53] <bodhizazen> running the fedora live CD ? or Ubuntu ?
[06:53] <philipballew> ubuntu
[06:54] <philipballew> lubuntu actually
[06:54] <philipballew> ubuntu's naming scheme is odd. id raher see them all called ubuntu
[06:55] <bodhizazen> OK , you want to end up with lubuntu ?
[06:55] <bodhizazen> at this point I would say install it, but do not reboot yet
[06:56] <bodhizazen> After installing it, install grub into the MBR of both hard drivers
[06:57] <philipballew> ok. lets start the install right now. why both jw?
[07:03] <bodhizazen> I am going to guess that your BIOS is not sorting out first and second hard driver, master slave the way we want it to
[07:03] <philipballew> i can take the second out
[07:03] <bodhizazen> so I hope if you install grub to the MBR of both hard drives it will sort itself out
[07:04] <bodhizazen> you could, but that is no fun =)
[07:04] <philipballew> i dont have any pins on either
[07:04] <philipballew> i need the 200 for my music!!!
[07:04] <bodhizazen> getting late here, good luck to you
[07:05] <philipballew> okay!
[07:05] <philipballew> if all fails, ill remove the drive
[07:11] <bodhizazen> ok, best of luck
[07:12] <bodhizazen> sometimes you need to map drives in grub
[07:14] <philipballew> i can do that. I might just buy a jumper and put it in the drive if need be
[07:15] <bodhizazen> jumper might help, not sure
[07:16] <bodhizazen> it does not matter with modern bios, but yours might be confused ?
[07:16] <philipballew> maybe. its a pentium 4
[07:19] <ScottSanbar> philipballew:  how old is the mobo?
[07:21] <philipballew> ScottSanbar, maybe 6 years
[07:23] <ScottSanbar> philipballew:  I seem to remember bios limits on hd size, but do not remember the size limit or the time frame.
[07:23] <philipballew> Is there a way to get around those limits?
[07:26] <ScottSanbar> Not sure they apply as recently as 6 years ago - see here:  http://www.dewassoc.com/kbase/hard_drives/hard_drive_size_barriers.htm
[07:27] <ScottSanbar> Hold on ... I need to get a better link ...
[07:27] <philipballew> dell demention 4600
[07:28] <ScottSanbar> Here is a much clearer distillation of the above link (tmi above): http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Large-Disk-HOWTO-4.html
[07:30] <ScottSanbar> This might help: http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/disk-drives/f/3534/t/19353123.aspx
[07:30] <ScottSanbar> What is your BIOS revision number?  Have you updated it to the latest off the Dell website?  (H
[07:32] <ScottSanbar> Very enlightening - details from Dell support:  http://www.doityourself.com/forum/computers-peripherals/350707-hard-drive-upgrade-problems-dell-dimension-4600-a.html
[07:33] <ScottSanbar> You should be able to open a ticket via e-mail with Dell support - they give lifetime e-mail support, I think, but maybe not - not sure
[07:33] <ScottSanbar> and maybe won't help you with non-windows
[07:34] <ScottSanbar> this problem does not appear to be a standard HD limitation issue, but a dell specific BIOS issue, from the links above
[07:39] <ScottSanbar> The standard fix for standard HD biggness issues was, if I remember correctly, to manually configure the drive parameters into a smaller drive - in this case, try 160GB or less- just search a 160 GB hd spec for the sector/head/cylinder geometry and set the BIOS to that is the easiest.
[07:40] <ScottSanbar> The BiOS may also have some standard specs pre-set that you can choose from a list
[07:41] <ScottSanbar> Also, make sure LBA, etc. is selected, as a long shot
[07:43] <ScottSanbar> (long shot because it probably already is)
[07:43] <philipballew> that form you sent me was my EXACT problem
[07:43] <philipballew> WOW
[07:44] <philipballew> thats pretty cool
[07:44] <ScottSanbar> Yah, I would have jumped in earlier but was involved in zen buddhism vs. christianity with your previous helper - seems like you did a lot of work
[07:45] <philipballew> seidos, i lent him a hotel room once
[07:45] <ScottSanbar> what exactly fixed the problem?
[07:45] <philipballew> he's pretty awesome
[07:45] <ScottSanbar> yes, both your helpers seem wonderful - I like everyone I have met here, for that matter ... :)
[07:46] <philipballew> not sure, im reinstalling now, but i changed the master slave stuff and if that doesnt work ill flash the bios
[07:47] <ScottSanbar> you might try manually changing the hard drive parameters - seems to my memory to be the best probably fix at this time, but not sure.
[07:47] <philipballew> i might need to manually work with my mbr sometime.
[07:47] <ScottSanbar> Updating the BIOS is usually important, anyway, so that would be good
[07:47] <philipballew> i have a spare hd with xp on it, i could pop that in if need be
[07:47] <ScottSanbar> No, the hard drive parameters in the BIOS
[07:48] <philipballew> is that risky to flash
[07:48] <ibuclaw> ScottSanbar, never update BIOS unless it is of absolute necessity
[07:48] <ScottSanbar> there is always a risk to brick your mobo with flash, but I have only done it once in all my life.  Do you have a UPS?  Also, don't do it from Windows, but from boot CD or floppy
[07:49] <philipballew> good old floppy drive
[07:49] <ScottSanbar> Yes, that should be fine ... the old standby, I always have one in my PCs
[07:51] <ScottSanbar> yes, some say that - he has a good point, you may try other stuff first and update bios as a last resort, if you are worried.
[07:52] <ScottSanbar> Of course, if you call many support centers, they will tell you to update BIOS as a first resort before helpoing you further ... :(
[07:54] <philipballew> wonder why
[07:56] <ScottSanbar> Not sure - sometimes, when working with certain servers, they had BIOS updates every other day, so by the time you updated the BIOS and called them back, they just said "so, you need to now update to the new BIOS" - endless lack of support.  Ridiculous
[07:57] <ScottSanbar> I think it was Compaq back around 1996-1997 time frame when I had that happen ... very frustrating.
[07:59] <philipballew> what brand do you use
[08:00] <ScottSanbar> I build my own PCS now with Gigabyte Mobos - they have a dual BIOS feature so they are basically unbrickable unless you really try
[08:01] <ScottSanbar> Not all of them, I do not think, though
[08:01] <philipballew> nice!
[08:01] <philipballew> random question. how hard is it to make a driver
[08:01] <ScottSanbar> Actually, that is theoretical - I have never had to use them
[08:02] <ScottSanbar> Don't know - never written a driver.
[08:04] <ScottSanbar> Well, actually, maybe I have - written code that interfaces directly with bare hardware that provides services to upper layer software, so I guess I have, but not for Linux or Unix or anything.  I did alter drivers and modules on Red Hat Linux, if I remember correctly, though - it does not seem like it was too hard to do that.
[08:05] <philipballew> i just got 5 usb wifi adapters with this desktop, and a router as well
[08:05] <ScottSanbar> I only vaguely remember that, though.
[08:05] <philipballew> 3 of thee 5 dont have a linux driver.!!!
[08:06] <ScottSanbar> Well, dig in!  It might take a long time, but it might be fun and you might learn a lot!  Sounds very, very hard, though, but maybe you could start with an existing driver and go from there.
[08:06] <ScottSanbar> Do you know C?  Ever done any assembler?
[08:08] <philipballew> i am learning c.
[08:08] <ScottSanbar> What book?
[08:08] <philipballew> c is what drivers are written in?
[08:08] <philipballew> a cs textbook
[08:08] <philipballew> forget the name
[08:09] <ScottSanbar> I think most of the Linux kernel and drivers and modules and stuff are written in C and some assembler, but not really sure.
[08:09] <philipballew> hum. i can use ndswrapper. ever herd of it?
[08:09] <ScottSanbar> the word rings a bell, but do not know what it is
[08:10] <philipballew> its a way to use windows netword drivers to work in linux
[08:11] <ScottSanbar> Thinking about the bios update thing, it definitely is a possibility to lose your PC to a flash - since you are a student on a very tight budget, it would be a great shame for you to lose your new PC that way.  I think ibuclaw has very sound advice in saying never flash unless absolutely necessary, given availability of funding for a replacement
[08:12] <ScottSanbar> (or lack thereof)
[08:13] <philipballew> i make being cheap a skill
[08:14] <ScottSanbar> Also, please bear in mind that all those links I found and most of my experience is with Windows, so I do not know if Linux responds the same way as Windows to the Dell BIOS problems
[08:15] <ScottSanbar> Might be kind of the blind leading the blind hear ... :)
[08:15] <philipballew> well i just booted successfully and its working
[08:15] <ScottSanbar> Oh, well, how did you get it to work?
[08:17]  * ScottSanbar eagerly awaits answer :)
[08:20] <philipballew> i messed up on the master and slave confoguration :)
[08:21] <philipballew> i had to open it up and move the pin :)
[08:21] <ScottSanbar> All that advice and work ... and ... :)
[08:24] <ScottSanbar> I thought I saw you do that earlier in the troubleshooting?
[08:27] <ScottSanbar> OH, btw, its not a pin, but a jumper
[08:31] <ScottSanbar> Good night, philipballew.  Good luck with your new machine.
[08:36] <philipballew> good night ScottSanbar :)
[16:16] <nlsthzn> o/
[17:29] <milesp> hello
[17:29] <milesp> need some help for installing 11.04
[17:29] <milesp> it's getting stuck while creating ext4 filesystem
[17:30] <milesp> CD has been checked, all seems good but no after what kind of install i do, it always get stuck at this point
[17:39] <philipballew> milesp, why are you stuck
[17:39] <philipballew> what types of installs did you do
[17:41] <seidos> milesp: my advice: keep trying stuff, if you want ideas, i can help you make a list :)
[20:07] <ScottSanbar> Good afternoon
[20:14] <xxxS> ji
[20:14] <xxxS> hi
[20:22] <ScottSanbar> xxx: hi!
[20:25] <ScottSanbar> so you want to allow 2's to show up?
[20:25] <Unit193> ScottSanbar: Good one ;)
[20:48] <xxxS> anybody who knows how to setup netbeans php?
[20:49] <ScottSanbar> Unit193: yes, I always screw up on my irssi windows ... I keep doing it, and it is very embarrasing
[20:51] <xxxS> netbeans php setup?
[20:52] <xxxS> can anybody help?
[20:52] <xxxS> I actually installed but when I run my project it doesn't display right