[21:40] <gustavold> will gnome-shell be incompatible with unity in ubuntu 11.10 ?
[21:41] <gustavold>  by incompatible I mean I will not be able to install both and choose which one I want to use during session login
[21:42] <BigWhale> What happened with the gnome-power-manager on desktops? I see only two things that I can set
[21:43] <dobey> BigWhale: gnome3 happened
[21:44] <dobey> gustavold: no. they can both be installed and you can pick one or the other in the login screen
[21:44] <BigWhale> dobey, oh ok... I wanted to check what's going on, because my desktop went to S3 sleep while I was away.
[21:45] <dobey> BigWhale: yeah, i'm a bit afraid to upgrade my workstation to oneiric
[21:46] <gustavold> dobey: thanks. I accidentally found the gnome3-session package in my natty and tried to install it just to find out I need a PPA for that... then started to wonder if ubuntu in 11.10 it would be easier
[21:46] <BigWhale> dobey, yeah I'm trying to find out why 3.0.0-11 kernel is working and 3.0.0-12 just hangs after loading initrd
[21:47] <dobey> gustavold: gnome 3 on 11.04 is pain; it will break the world if you install it :)
[21:47] <jbicha> gustavold: yes, gnome shell works just fine in 11.10
[21:48] <dobey> BigWhale: i don't know about that, but on my laptop where i have been running oneiric for a long while now, it is really slow
[21:48] <dobey> like, it gets stuck in diskwait ALL the time
[21:48] <BigWhale> and I'm getting frustrated because I can't get any output in the console and removing splash didn't do a thing
[21:50] <gustavold> dobey: thanks for the advice... I will wait a couple of weeks until we have an oneiric release. Then I will try gnome 3
[21:50] <BigWhale> dobey, I was suspecting my RAID5 setup so I went back to single drive. It worked and I was happy. Then I ran dist-upgrade, got me 3.0.0-12 and same old story
[21:50] <gustavold> jbicha: thanks ;)
[22:03] <RAOF_> Good morning desktoppers.
[22:07] <remos> hi
[22:07] <remos> c'one
[22:07] <remos> c'on
[22:17] <dobey> man, the unthemed dialogs in lightdm with the awesome ubuntu theme, are saddening
[22:20] <RAOF> Yes, they are :/
[22:21] <dobey> uh oh
[22:22] <dobey> just did a dist-upgrade and indeed my laptop no longer fully boots :(
[22:23] <dobey> with the -12 kernel anyway
[22:24] <dobey> hrmm, even with -11 it ssmes to be rather unhappy now
[22:24] <dobey> well this sucks
[22:41] <micahg> dobey: are you going to fix ubuntuone-client-gnome?
[22:44] <dobey> micahg: define 'fix' ?
[22:44] <micahg> dobey: upload a version that doesn't FTBFS?
[22:45] <dobey> i didn't know it was ftbfs, but yeah i will fix it
[22:45] <micahg> dobey: you didn't get the e-mail?
[22:45] <dobey> no
[22:46] <dobey> well, i will propose a branch to fix it i guess. i don't have upload privs to just upload it
[22:47] <micahg> dobey: I"m sure we can find someone to sponsor
[22:53] <micahg> dobey: BTW, I thought gsettings was the new technology for settings
[22:54] <dobey> and?
[22:54] <micahg> oh, I guess the support is now upstream than rather than an override
[22:55] <RAOF> 194 packages to upgrade since Friday?  Really?
[22:56] <Laney> erm, my compose key seems to have gone away
[22:56] <Laney> Final Freeze(tm)
[22:56] <RAOF> Yeah, but Final Freeze was *Thursday* :)
[22:57] <Laney> That's what I meant ;-)
[22:57] <Laney> oh man, how do I get compose back?
[22:57] <RAOF> I don't know.
[22:57] <RAOF> It works on this machine, but not on my x200s.
[22:58] <Laney> pretty sure it worked before my last dist-upgrade
[22:58] <Laney> now it's back to caps lock again
[22:58] <Laney> and I can't find the UI
[22:58] <RAOF> Bah.  I seem to have broken PolicyKit.  I wonder what fragment of the manual install is still lying around asking for the root password?
[22:59] <RAOF> The UI *should* be in Keyboard Layout?
[22:59] <Laney> yeah, still set to Caps Lock
[23:00] <Laney> ™ — toggling worked
[23:03] <dobey> micahg: https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntu/oneiric/ubuntuone-client-gnome/fix-ftbfs/+merge/77842
[23:04]  * dobey goes back to weekend, and get some dinner
[23:04] <micahg> thanks dobey
[23:04] <micahg> RAOF: any chance you can sponsor the above assuming it's sane? ^^
[23:09] <RAOF> micahg: I'll take a butchers.
[23:10] <micahg> RAOF: ?
[23:11] <RAOF> micahg: While the rest of .au is on a public holiday, I need to make up for the diminished .au contingent by using the broadest-possible Australian slang.
[23:11] <micahg> RAOF: ah, thought it was something I was unfamiliar with
[23:13] <RAOF> Just some random slang. ?
[23:13] <micahg> right
[23:14] <Laney> = butcher's hook = look
[23:15] <RAOF> It's the old indirect cockney rhyming slang.
[23:30]  * RAOF wonders if this "bzr merge" is actually going to complete.