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| nisshh | hey guys | 06:57 |
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| nisshh | whats up? | 06:57 |
| nisshh | <.< bad timing :) | 06:58 |
| nisshh | whoever see's this first: ive come back after ages away to help out once again | 07:02 |
| rigved | hi everyone. | 12:24 |
| rigved | i heard that the ubuntu manual project needs help to get the oneiric version out on time. | 12:24 |
| rigved | i have already sent an e-mail to jobs@ubuntu-manual.org with all the required details. | 12:32 |
| jeyanthan | Hi Team, just got a mail fwd from my friend from Ubuntu manual stating that you are in need of volunteers ! | 12:40 |
| jeyanthan | I was expecting if there is a better way to file as a volunteer instead of mailing to jobs@ubuntu-manual.org .. something like filling a form ? | 12:49 |
| c7p | hey nisshh | 14:36 |
| nisshh | c7p, hey dude | 14:58 |
| c7p | WHAT'S UP ? | 14:59 |
| * c7p sorry for caps | 14:59 | |
| nisshh | c7p, not much dude, just life is finally falling into place for me, so i finally have a bit of time to come back and contribute to the manual | 15:17 |
| c7p | i'm happy for you :D | 15:17 |
| nisshh | thanks :) | 15:17 |
| c7p | you were chapter author ? | 15:18 |
| nisshh | yeah | 15:18 |
| nisshh | original auther of the cmd chapter | 15:18 |
| c7p | on which chapter ? | 15:18 |
| c7p | ah yeah | 15:18 |
| nisshh | but im happy to do whatever now | 15:18 |
| nisshh | editing would suite me | 15:18 |
| c7p | great | 15:18 |
| c7p | could you manage troubleshooting chapter ? | 15:19 |
| nisshh | maybe | 15:19 |
| nisshh | ill have a look first | 15:19 |
| c7p | ok | 15:19 |
| nisshh | i really need some sleep right now though | 15:19 |
| nisshh | ill catch you tomorrow though | 15:19 |
| c7p | no problem | 15:19 |
| nisshh | is the main branch still at lp:ubuntu-manual? | 15:20 |
| c7p | you may contact me | 15:20 |
| nisshh | cool | 15:20 |
| c7p | yap | 15:20 |
| nisshh | sweet, ill check it out tomorrow after work | 15:20 |
| c7p | thanks :D | 15:20 |
| nisshh | np | 15:20 |
| nisshh | im still subscribed to the ML and everything too | 15:21 |
| nisshh | gnight | 15:21 |
| c7p | goodnight | 15:23 |
| c7p | hey godbyk | 16:14 |
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| tomswartz07 | hey everyone | 22:59 |
| c7p | hey tomswartz07 | 23:00 |
| tomswartz07 | ive been following the Ubuntu Manual project ever since Ben started it a few years ago, mostly idly watching from the side with its developments and reading up on the mailing lists. | 23:00 |
| tomswartz07 | long story short, i see that this past release has been delayed- and i was wondering what i may be able to do to help | 23:01 |
| tomswartz07 | im no major expert with LaTeX, but i can certainly hold my own | 23:01 |
| tomswartz07 | any ideas on something that I could jump in and help with? | 23:02 |
| c7p | hm wanna become an author ? | 23:02 |
| c7p | actually you could help and in another way | 23:03 |
| tomswartz07 | whats that? | 23:03 |
| c7p | you said that you know basics of latex right ? | 23:04 |
| c7p | e.g identifying code | 23:04 |
| tomswartz07 | you bet. used it for about 2 dozen physics lab reports | 23:04 |
| c7p | and understanding syntax | 23:04 |
| c7p | hehe i guess you are an expert in contrast with me :P | 23:05 |
| c7p | on this release new authors will write their sections in odts | 23:05 |
| tomswartz07 | haha, hey, dont be modest here. it was mostly copy-pasta the template i made up | 23:05 |
| c7p | so we need some people to convert odt to latex | 23:05 |
| godbyk | tomswartz07: For the Oneiric edition, we're going to let the authors write their text in whatever format they like (e.g., LibreOffice or plain text) and we'll have a small group of people who convert that (by hand) to LaTeX. | 23:06 |
| c7p | i know only latex tags that project uses, nothing more | 23:06 |
| * c7p thx Kevin :) | 23:06 | |
| godbyk | You can find a list of the LaTeX commands we're using in our style guide: http://files.ubuntu-manual.org/style-guide.pdf | 23:06 |
| godbyk | (The style guide needs to be updated at some point, but I haven't gotten around to it yet. So if you have any questions about any of it or if you think something's missing, feel free to pester me about it.) | 23:07 |
| tomswartz07 | ok, cool. so its mostly just a copy-paste kind of deal, so long as the commands are right? | 23:07 |
| godbyk | tomswartz07: Yeah, you'd be copying and pasting their text and then formatting it using our LaTeX commands. | 23:08 |
| tomswartz07 | mmmm, syntax formatting. | 23:08 |
| * tomswartz07 *tab tab tab* | 23:09 | |
| godbyk | tomswartz07: It's glamorous work, let me tell ya! ;-) | 23:10 |
| tomswartz07 | between you and I, i broke a keyboard at work because i hit the tab key too many times while updating the formatting syntax on their website. | 23:11 |
| godbyk | tomswartz07: Ha! I won't tell, I promise. Handily, we don't have much tab-indenting in our LaTeX code. | 23:12 |
| godbyk | Lots of backslashes and curly braces, though. :) | 23:12 |
| tomswartz07 | haha. well, thats good. :P | 23:12 |
| c7p | Tom, do you want to become an author of a chapter section ? | 23:14 |
| tomswartz07 | Im up for whatever you think you need the most help with. | 23:15 |
| c7p | currently we need authors to write material | 23:16 |
| tomswartz07 | well then, im up for it :) | 23:16 |
| c7p | after writing we will need editors and latex guys like you :P | 23:16 |
| c7p | cool | 23:16 |
| c7p | do you use gwibber or empathy ? | 23:17 |
| tomswartz07 | used to- havent done so recently. Is that what the topics are on? | 23:17 |
| c7p | yes there are sections covering these applications | 23:18 |
| c7p | let me tell you available sections | 23:18 |
| c7p | Setting Ubuntu One | 23:18 |
| c7p | Ubuntu One preferences | 23:18 |
| c7p | Watching videos and movies (covers Totem) | 23:18 |
| c7p | Using instant messaging (covers Empathy) | 23:19 |
| c7p | Microblogging (covers Gwibber) | 23:19 |
| c7p | Getting online (covers Mozilla Firefox) | 23:19 |
| c7p | Customizing your Desktop (covering Appearance) | 23:19 |
| c7p | and Troubleshooting chapter sections | 23:19 |
| c7p | let me know what sections of the above do you prefer, if you want to contribute as author | 23:20 |
| tomswartz07 | well, i can't do totem (it wont work on my dvi monitor, and i was never able to figure out why) | 23:20 |
| tomswartz07 | i would, however be interested in either Customizing your Desktop, or Instant Messaging. | 23:21 |
| tomswartz07 | they seem like fairly straightforward topics | 23:21 |
| c7p | good :) | 23:22 |
| c7p | what version of ubuntu do you use ? | 23:22 |
| * c7p silly questions :P | 23:23 | |
| tomswartz07 | haha, im on 11.04 | 23:23 |
| c7p | nice, 11.04 has the mail indicator right ? | 23:24 |
| tomswartz07 | you betcha | 23:24 |
| c7p | ok i guess you can take IM section | 23:26 |
| c7p | with the condition to work on 11.10 when testing empathy :P | 23:27 |
| tomswartz07 | sure- i was actually thinking of flipping up to 11.10 this coming weekend anyway. haha | 23:28 |
| c7p | hehe | 23:28 |
| c7p | cool so from now on i call you author : | 23:28 |
| c7p | :P | 23:28 |
| tomswartz07 | well, this is pretty awesome! | 23:29 |
| c7p | again a silly question, how many hours in average can you spend on this section per week ? | 23:29 |
| tomswartz07 | hm, well i suppose i could set aside an hour or so each night- so 7 or 8 hours per week? | 23:30 |
| c7p | neat :D | 23:31 |
| tomswartz07 | i could do more, if you think it might help? | 23:31 |
| c7p | no no | 23:31 |
| c7p | the first thing that you must have in mind is to enjoy contributing | 23:31 |
| c7p | extra hours that are tiring won | 23:32 |
| c7p | t help essentially | 23:32 |
| tomswartz07 | haha ok | 23:32 |
| c7p | author have you tested our bzr branch in the past ? | 23:34 |
| tomswartz07 | a long time ago, not since ben stepped down | 23:34 |
| c7p | ok | 23:35 |
| tomswartz07 | its not that big of a deal to bzr pull the branch though | 23:35 |
| c7p | i just wanted to know if you would use bzr to push your work or the new system with odt files that new authors will use | 23:36 |
| c7p | so bzr works for you ? | 23:37 |
| tomswartz07 | yeah, i have experience using bzr for some of my own code projects | 23:37 |
| c7p | cool | 23:38 |
| c7p | let me know if you need anything | 23:38 |
| tomswartz07 | ok- i have a few questions, though. | 23:39 |
| c7p | fire them away | 23:39 |
| tomswartz07 | okay, so Im doing the IM section, testing on 11.10, and writing up content similar to the editions in the past. Are there any specifics that I should cover (other than just general use), or is it just open-ended? | 23:41 |
| tomswartz07 | because ive never actually contributed, i tended to just skim over any communications that covered the topic. | 23:42 |
| c7p | you may browse the 10.10 book to see how authors write things, it's not big deal | 23:43 |
| c7p | as an author you are free to add new subsections or remove existings | 23:44 |
| c7p | you choose this | 23:44 |
| tomswartz07 | ok. i wasnt sure if there was a set methodolgy that you folks stuck to. | 23:44 |
| c7p | no, no methology. you must only have in mind that the section you are working on should be understood from beginners, and shouldn't be too shot neither too long | 23:45 |
| c7p | by beginners i mean users that have previous experience with computers | 23:46 |
| tomswartz07 | novices, i guess the term would be? | 23:46 |
| c7p | i'm not a native speaker, but i guess that's a better term "novices" | 23:46 |
| c7p | anything else ? | 23:47 |
| tomswartz07 | one last- how much do you depend on the odt formatting for the writeups? I figure, because I am familiar with latex, its not that big of a problem to compose it already in the latex format | 23:48 |
| tomswartz07 | if it will screw up all of the works, however, then its not that big of a deal- i just thought it might be able to save some work in the long run | 23:49 |
| c7p | writeups ? | 23:52 |
| * c7p my engilsh aren't so good | 23:53 | |
| tomswartz07 | the section that i am writing- sorry! :x | 23:53 |
| godbyk | tomswartz07: You can write it directly in LaTeX if you like. | 23:55 |
| godbyk | We're just offering the ODT option to authors who aren't familiar with LaTeX (and don't want to learn it). | 23:55 |
| tomswartz07 | ah, i understand now. | 23:56 |
| godbyk | If you run 'make' to build the PDF (and ensure you didn't break anything) before committing, then it's perfectly fine to edit the .tex files directly. | 23:56 |
| tomswartz07 | godbyk: 'make'? im guessing that this is more involved than a simple pdflatex compile, correct? | 23:57 |
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