[01:45] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepimlibs] Philip Muškovac * 146 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[03:28] <shadeslayer> heh
[03:33] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: it's alive and building \o/
[03:33] <shadeslayer> unfourtunately, i have to kill it because i'm heading off to college
[03:39] <ScottK> yofel: Done.
[03:42] <ScottK> apachelogger: I got that one.  We don't do userspace CPU management anymore, so it's invalid.
[10:02] <Girly-Girl> KDE 4.7.2 packaging done?
[10:03] <Girly-Girl> ohh sorry not yet released
[11:32] <apachelogger> anyone here?
[11:33] <GirlyGirl> apachelogger: The packaging team itself aparently not
[11:33] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ssup
[11:33]  * apachelogger is one of the master lord packagers :P
[11:34] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: dolphin ... bug 593324
[11:34] <apachelogger> question is should dolphin recommend or suggest konsole
[11:35] <apachelogger> "The Recommends field should list packages that would be found together with this one in all but unusual installations."
[11:35]  * apachelogger thinks that someone who uses a builtin terminal in a file manager runs an unusual installation ^^
[11:35] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: Recommends
[11:36] <apachelogger> very related:
[11:36] <apachelogger> dolphin also seems to have tools -> compare stuff
[11:36] <shadeslayer> oh wait wait
[11:36] <apachelogger> which I reckon requires kompare
[11:36] <yofel> GirlyGirl: see 4.7.2 link in topic, work in progress
[11:37] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yup, i'd go with recommends
[11:37] <apachelogger> So, I think kompare as suggests is a given
[11:38] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: but how do we justify installation of a terminal app in env that possibly already have one?
[11:38] <apachelogger> I mean, if I were using xfce and installed dolphin it would seem very silly to get konsole as well
[11:38] <apachelogger> just to have the builtin terminal feature of dolphin
[11:38] <apachelogger> yofel: what do you think?
[11:39] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: Enhances would probably be the best fit imo
[11:39] <yofel> shadeslayer: might as well make dolphin suggest it then
[11:39] <apachelogger> yeah, BUT, enhances goes the wrong direction  IMHO
[11:40] <shadeslayer> yofel: no i meant, konsole enhances dolphin
[11:40] <apachelogger> konsole does not enhance dophin, the kpart does
[11:40] <shadeslayer> uh, right, and that kpart comes from konsole?
[11:40] <apachelogger> technically the kpart comes from kdelibs :P
[11:40] <shadeslayer> heh :P
[11:41] <shadeslayer> then how does installing konsole fix that bug ?
[11:41] <apachelogger> the problem is ... konsole would then have to enhance kile and kdevelop and god knows what
[11:41] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: it is the runtime kpart provider
[11:41] <apachelogger> the actual kpart component is not resolved until runtime, which might in fact justify enhances
[11:42] <apachelogger> but as I said, it sort of goes into the wrong direction as that would require konsole to define a bazillion enhances
[11:42] <apachelogger> "This field is similar to Suggests but works in the opposite direction. It is used to declare that a package can enhance the functionality of another package."
[11:42] <apachelogger> about enhances
[11:42] <shadeslayer> right ...
[11:42] <apachelogger> so I personally would only use enhances for packages that *only* enhance one or two other packages
[11:43] <apachelogger> like the dolphin vcs plugins would be a case of enhances
[11:43] <apachelogger> they enhance dolphin and only that (or whatever package contains the file browser kpart if you will)
[11:44] <apachelogger> anyone with an ubuntu install around?
[11:44] <apachelogger> or the software center
[11:44]  * shadeslayer is on OS X compiling Qt
[11:44] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: muon software center makes suggests show up as addons, just like enhances
[11:45] <shadeslayer> ooh
[11:45] <shadeslayer> well
[11:45] <apachelogger> http://i.imgur.com/LOEoK.png
[11:45] <apachelogger> ruby and vcs plugins are suggests
[11:45] <apachelogger> SO
[11:45] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: it's ot a addon per se
[11:45] <shadeslayer> *not a 
[11:45] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: why not?
[11:45] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: because my definition of plugin is something that you can enable/disable
[11:45] <shadeslayer> something like the git/bzr plugin for dolphin
[11:46] <apachelogger> it aint plugin, it is an addon :P
[11:46] <apachelogger> besides, you can enable/disable the konsole feature
[11:46] <shadeslayer> whats the difference between the 2? 
[11:46] <shadeslayer> you ... can? O_O
[11:46] <apachelogger> by adding/removing the terminal panel
[11:46] <shadeslayer> ah
[11:46] <yofel> + the terminal panel is off by default
[11:47] <apachelogger> if that were not the case it would be a dep or at the very least a recommends
[11:47] <apachelogger> I think suggests might make most sense
[11:47] <yofel> +1
[11:47] <apachelogger> because if you do not already have konsole you most definitely have another terminal app so you might not need konsole, making autoinstall thru recommends bad behavior
[11:48] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: whats with the e's in that screenshot ? ( In "Reviews" )
[11:48] <apachelogger> at the same time user friendly package manager UIs expose the suggests in very accessible manner making it easy to find and install if necessary
[11:48] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: if only I knew, I think there is some boldness issue with nokia pure
[11:52] <CIA-130> [kde-baseapps] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20111003115157-nhlkqani8k1jyn4j * debian/ (changelog control) (log message trimmed)
[11:52] <CIA-130> * Dolphin doesn't recommend kfind anymore (it is not used for search these days,
[11:52] <CIA-130> but nepomuk is) * Dolphin suggests konsole (LP: #593324) - Used in the Tools
[11:52] <CIA-130> [kde-baseapps] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20111003115212-xn6m6nr50ljqvof7 * debian/KUBUNTU-DEBIAN-DIFFERENCES update diff file accordingly
[11:52] <apachelogger> ScottK: do we want that in 11.10?
[11:54] <apachelogger> what do we do with bug 706900
[11:55] <yofel> oh fun, aseigo's folderview patch made it partially back into 4.7.2. Or he forgot to remove the whole patch
[11:59] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ok, i've built everything
[12:02] <shadeslayer> hmm, should i install all of this as well
[12:05] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: suppose so?
[12:05] <apachelogger> I have no idea what all of this is though 
[12:06] <shadeslayer> yeah, I'm having a look as wel
[12:06] <shadeslayer> *well
[12:33] <shadeslayer> installing is taking forever @_@
[12:35] <apachelogger> you should have opted for SSD clearly :P
[12:38] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/okular] Philip Muškovac * 14 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[12:41] <shadeslayer> omg its done
[12:41] <shadeslayer> \o/
[12:42] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://cl.ly/3t0n3U0G0O3g0A0D142q
[12:43] <apachelogger> wohooo
[12:43] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: now try with uds app
[12:44] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i think you need to write a .xcodeproj file
[12:44] <apachelogger> why is that?
[12:44] <apachelogger> and what would it contain?
[12:44] <apachelogger> can you upload a demo project somewhere
[12:45] <shadeslayer> actually, its a entire folder
[12:45] <shadeslayer> sure, give me a second
[12:45] <shadeslayer> it's in the qt sources
[12:45] <shadeslayer> under the examples/qmltest
[12:45] <shadeslayer> qt/src/plugins/platforms/uikit/examples/
[12:50] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://cl.ly/0y1T160q400T3f3m0z0g
[12:50] <shadeslayer> :D
[12:50] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kate] Philip Muškovac * 44 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[12:54] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i need to pay and join the apple dev to actually transfer a app onto a actual device :/
[12:58] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkipi] Philip Muškovac * 20 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[13:07] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkdeedu] Philip Muškovac * 14 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[13:15] <Quintasan_> wendar: ping
[13:15] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: pong
[13:16] <Quintasan> wendar: ah nvm, got your email
[13:18] <ScottK> apachelogger: I don't think adding a suggests is worth it for release.  I'd add it for 4.7.2 and we'll squeeze it in for the SRU.
[13:19] <ScottK> yofel: I added aseigo's folderview patch back as a distro patch.  You aren't seeing that are you?
[13:19] <yofel> ScottK: I am, but half of the patch is in 4.7.2, half isn't
[13:19] <Quintasan> ScottK: Any ideas about that Konsole patch we talked some time ago? That one for re-enabling text dragging
[13:19] <ScottK> Weird.
[13:20] <ScottK> Quintasan: I've patched my konsole locally (if it's the one I'm thinking of).  It turns out upstream changed it on purpose, so I think we shouldn't switch it back.
[13:20] <Quintasan> Urgh.
[13:21] <Quintasan> That was actually a nice feature
[13:21] <ScottK> apachelogger says it's non-trivial to make it configurable.
[13:21] <ScottK> Agreed.
[13:21] <ScottK> Feel free to install konsole from my PPA.
[13:39] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkdcraw] Philip Muškovac * 19 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[14:00] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkexiv2] Philip Muškovac * 22 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[14:04] <apachelogger> ScottK: it is trivial
[14:04] <apachelogger> it is just one member var that needs swapping based on the setting
[14:10] <ScottK> apachelogger: Perhaps you could propose it for 4.8 then so we can get this solved properly.
[14:10] <apachelogger> I thought you filed a bug report on this?
[14:11]  * apachelogger doesnt know nearly enough about konsole code to do that sort of change
[14:12] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-wallpapers] Philip Muškovac * 15 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[14:17] <txwikinger> Somehow oneiric deaktop seems more unstable that natty. I have had several times when the desktop "froze" and I got bumped to the login. Not sure what is causing that so
[14:19] <yofel> I got that once I opened firefox, it complained about missing libcanberra-gtk-module, and the next message in xsession-errors was "kded4: client killed"
[14:19] <yofel> *once when I
[14:20] <txwikinger> yeah.. it may has to do with firefox.
[14:20] <txwikinger> I think it happens after firefox is starting to use 100% cpu or something like that
[14:21] <txwikinger> firefox6 and firefox7 are far less stable than firefox5
[14:21] <yofel> considering firefox has some X code in it I wouldn't be surprised if it could take X down
[14:22] <txwikinger> yeah.. I do not understand why FF and Chromium do that.. shouldn't say use KDE/Gnome instead of directly X?
[14:22] <txwikinger> well Qt/Gtk probably
[14:23]  * txwikinger is too tired to think... too much work during the weekend
[14:26] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdegames] Philip Muškovac * 135 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[14:27] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdemultimedia] Philip Muškovac * 133 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[14:30] <shadeslayer> are you guys repacking stuff with xz or using bz2 ?
[14:31] <yofel> bz2
[14:31] <yofel> no point in using xz for most packages
[14:31] <shadeslayer> ok
[14:33] <shadeslayer> O_O
[14:33] <shadeslayer> kgetsource does everything
[14:33] <apachelogger> hrrr hrrr
[14:33] <shadeslayer> even upgrades kde-sc-dev-latest
[14:33] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: any luck with uds app
[14:33] <shadeslayer> I've been made redundant by a script
[14:33] <yofel> almost, you still need to edit changelog for ppa build and make source package :P
[14:33] <apachelogger> also check kde:scratch/sitter/qev
[14:33] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: you didn't give me that folder thingy
[14:34] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: packaging stuff and looking at STUN Indications right now, will have a look in a couple of hours
[14:34] <shadeslayer> yofel: true that 
[14:34] <apachelogger> oh trust me, you totally want to look at this now
[14:34] <apachelogger> it is way too wicked
[14:34] <shadeslayer> hehe
[14:35] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: I already started a kdepim-runtime build
[14:35] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I believe *you* need to make that xcodeproject thing
[14:35] <shadeslayer> i should probably look at bzr build-deb
[14:35] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: really?
[14:35] <apachelogger> well
[14:35] <apachelogger> look at that file
[14:36] <apachelogger> looks heavily autogenerated from xcode
[14:36] <shadeslayer> hmm
[14:36] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i have no idea how to open a project withouth that file
[14:36] <shadeslayer> will look tho
[14:36] <apachelogger> well
[14:36] <apachelogger> you need to create a project
[14:37] <apachelogger> and then we apparently need more ifdef in main.cpp ^^
[14:37] <apachelogger> or we main.mm it
[14:37] <shadeslayer> main.mm is the right way i think
[14:37] <shadeslayer> how does one use bzr builddeb again
[14:37] <shadeslayer> with pbuilder
[14:38] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[14:38] <shadeslayer> hmm
[14:38] <apachelogger> I always build a source and throw that into pbuilder
[14:38] <apachelogger> http://paste.kde.org/129769/
[14:38] <apachelogger> it is a beauty, that is what this is
[14:39] <shadeslayer> O_O
[14:39] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: what magickery is that thing
[14:39] <apachelogger> qev
[14:39] <apachelogger> inspired by xev
[14:39] <shadeslayer> i bet you coded that with your wizard hat on
[14:40] <apachelogger> why yes
[14:40] <apachelogger> it does plenty of runtime enum introspection ^^
[14:40] <yofel> bbl
[14:41] <apachelogger> I did not even know you could do that
[14:41]  * shadeslayer closes the paste before his eyes pop out
[14:41] <apachelogger> turns it out is is jolly easy
[14:41] <apachelogger> except for the Qt namespace enums
[14:41] <apachelogger> which is why line 30 has a funny function ^^
[14:41] <apachelogger> http://paste.kde.org/129775/ 
[14:41] <shadeslayer> heh
[14:42] <apachelogger> the reason for line 30's function is explained at line 30 there :P
[14:42] <shadeslayer> hahaha
[14:43] <ScottK> apachelogger: The original bug report asked for it to be selectable which the maintainer 'solved' by just changing the default.  I complained in that bug that selectable would be great, so if you could provide a patch to actually do the original bug, that'd be super.
[14:56] <fabo> have you heard about plasma desktop shell crashes? I'm able to 100% reproduce when I configure RTM plasma widget
[14:57] <fabo> it isn't reproducible with Oneiric beta 2
[15:06] <apachelogger> fabo: no reports on launchpad anyway
[15:16] <fabo> apachelogger: ok, I'll try to get a backtrace and reports the bugs. thanks.
[15:32] <ScottK> fabo: Please report to b.k.o (just like you would for Debian).
[15:47] <fabo> ScottK: sure
[15:50] <ScottK> Thanks.
[16:11] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ok, so i have xcode oepn
[16:11] <shadeslayer> *open
[16:11] <shadeslayer> i can't just directly open your project
[16:11] <apachelogger> yeah
[16:11] <apachelogger> big surprise
[16:12] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you need to create a new project
[16:12] <shadeslayer> there are a bazillion of them
[16:12] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://cl.ly/1O133F410p2i2C2J0y0Q
[16:13] <shadeslayer> ( the last one is a empty project )
[16:13] <apachelogger> you might have a template QMLApplicationViewer
[16:13] <shadeslayer> yup
[16:13] <shadeslayer> well
[16:13] <shadeslayer> it's there in the examples
[16:13] <apachelogger> make such a project
[16:15] <apachelogger> or read the readme
[16:15] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: https://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qt/blobs/4.8/src/plugins/platforms/uikit/README
[16:15] <apachelogger> see 3) XCode setup
[16:15] <shadeslayer> yeah, thats what i'm looking at
[16:15] <micahg> hi Riddell, would it be possible to make the DMB owner of Kubuntu Dev so DMB membership doesn't grant any extra upload rights?
[16:16] <maco> dmb currently grants buttloads of extra upload rights
[16:16] <shadeslayer> hmm
[16:16] <maco> (no i did not abuse that while on the dmb, simply noted it)
[16:16] <micahg> maco: right, trying to fix :)
[16:16] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: company identifier? like in javah : com.yourcompany.UDS
[16:17] <apachelogger> shere?
[16:17] <Riddell> micahg: I'm not sure I understand, how does that affect what DMB grants?
[16:17] <maco> Riddell: owners dont have to be members
[16:17] <micahg> Riddell: owner does not grant upload rights in a team, only membership
[16:17] <maco> er yeah that
[16:17] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: where actually :)
[16:17] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: only reference to id in the pbxproj seems to be about binary signing
[16:18] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://cl.ly/2Z1D2n46343o141L432q
[16:18] <micahg> Riddell: being owner allows us to modify membership w/out actually being a recipient of the benefits of membership
[16:18] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: apparently
[16:18] <apachelogger> com.ubuntu.summit.ios
[16:18] <apachelogger> should be the entire identifier
[16:18] <apachelogger> or you could also ditch the ios I suppose
[16:19] <apachelogger> the app uses com.ubuntu.summit as identifier for configs etc.
[16:19] <shadeslayer> right now it's : com.ubuntu.summit.UDS
[16:19] <apachelogger> ditch the UDS :P
[16:19] <shadeslayer> Product Name : UDS
[16:19] <apachelogger> just use summit as name
[16:19] <apachelogger> and com.ubuntu as company
[16:19] <shadeslayer> Xcode adds project name to the Bundle identifier
[16:19] <apachelogger> so name the project summit?
[16:19] <shadeslayer> Bundle Identifier = Product Name + Company Identifier
[16:19] <Riddell> micahg: why would you modify membership?
[16:20] <micahg> Riddell: in the case someone needed to be removed
[16:20] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I am being confused, just use something... if it comes out wrong we can always redo it ^^
[16:20] <shadeslayer> heh
[16:20] <shadeslayer> k
[16:20] <maco> micahg: because they got hit by a bus?
[16:20] <apachelogger> that stuff is just supposed to be xcode configs
[16:21] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: do you have a nokia dev account?
[16:21] <shadeslayer> mmm .. .nope
[16:21]  * apachelogger ponders moving the repo to nokia code hosting
[16:22] <apachelogger> it actually supports git, unlike other project management solutions we all know :P
[16:22] <micahg> maco: more likely would be a project ban or something
[16:22] <apachelogger> oh
[16:22] <shadeslayer> "  - remove the nibs and view controller and app controller files"
[16:22] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: seems that stuff ends up in project.plist
[16:22] <apachelogger> so we can probably edit it easily
[16:22] <micahg> Riddell: we were admins before, but the membership just expired
[16:23] <shadeslayer> OS X comes with a default install of emacs \o/
[16:23] <shadeslayer> the command line version
[16:24] <Riddell> micahg: mm, well probably the kubuntu council should work out what to do, I'm not really in kubuntu mode until next month, could you e-mail kubuntu-devel?  (or I can if  preferred)
[16:24] <ScottK> Since kubuntu-dev is delegated from the DMB (it's a different situation than KC), I think it's OK.
[16:24] <ScottK> Riddell: kubuntu-dev is a DMB delegation.
[16:24] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i don't have any of the files that the readme tells me to delete
[16:25] <apachelogger> all the better I guess? :)
[16:25] <shadeslayer> and neither does the plist have anything called Main nib file
[16:25] <shadeslayer> yaeh
[16:25] <micahg> Riddell: more likely than not we woudn't be touching anything
[16:25] <shadeslayer> oh theres
[16:25] <micahg> and we had this ability previously, it just expired over the weekend
[16:25] <shadeslayer> Main nib file base name
[16:27] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: https://projects.developer.nokia.com/uds
[16:27] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you can get an account at developer.nokia.com
[16:28] <shadeslayer> looking
[16:28] <shadeslayer> yet another account that i'll use and forget about :P
[16:29] <apachelogger> lol
[16:29] <apachelogger> uhm
[16:29] <apachelogger> actually that is not half bad a system there
[16:30] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: joined
[16:30] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: username is kshadeslayer
[16:33] <shadeslayer> "  - Add the Qt .a libraries, uikit platform plugin and libz (v1.2.3) to Frameworks"
[16:33] <shadeslayer> hmm
[16:34] <shadeslayer> aha
[16:36] <ScottK> Looks like maybe kdepim could use another cherrypick.
[16:36] <ScottK> I'd like to avoid the version bump to 4.7.2 though.
[16:36] <ScottK> Anyone up for that?
[16:36] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://cl.ly/2V2E0u463y1C0l2v2p1B >> uikit is already added
[16:41] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: wtf do i have to hand pick each .a file?
[16:41] <apachelogger> seems so
[16:41] <shadeslayer> :/
[16:41] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: what all libs do you use ?
[16:42] <apachelogger> declarative, gui, core, network
[16:42] <apachelogger> (I think)
[16:43] <shadeslayer> alright
[16:43] <shadeslayer> done
[16:43] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you should be member of the team 
[16:43] <apachelogger> inital code pushed too
[16:43] <apachelogger> bulldog98_: wanna be member too?
[16:44] <shadeslayer> yup
[16:44]  * apachelogger wonders if that site runs trac
[16:44] <bambee> evening
[16:47] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: now where do i find libz
[16:47] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: which libs?
[16:47] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: it has no deps other than Qt
[16:47] <shadeslayer> "  - Add the Qt .a libraries, uikit platform plugin and libz (v1.2.3) to Frameworks"
[16:48] <shadeslayer> By uikit platform plugin, it meant the .a file for the plugin right?
[16:48] <apachelogger> guess so
[16:52] <shadeslayer> everything is setup
[16:52] <shadeslayer> lol
[16:52] <shadeslayer> /Users/shadeslayer/kde/summit/../qt/src/plugins/platforms/uikit/examples/share/qmlapplicationviewer/qmlapplicationviewer.h:55:42: error: QtDeclarative/QDeclarativeView: No such file or directory
[16:52] <shadeslayer> clearly i did something wrong
[16:56] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: include path needs adding perhaps?
[16:56] <apachelogger> 				HEADER_SEARCH_PATHS = "\"$(SRCROOT)/../../../../../../../qt-lighthouse-ios-device/include\"/**";
[16:57] <shadeslayer> afaik i did that
[16:58] <shadeslayer> ah wait
[16:59] <shadeslayer> nope, didn't make a difference
[17:01] <apachelogger> well
[17:01] <apachelogger> where is QtDeclarative/QDeclarativeView in your lighthouse tree?
[17:02] <shadeslayer> /Users/shadeslayer/kde/qt-lighthouse-ios-simulator/include/QtDeclarative
[17:03] <shadeslayer> so i guess i need to replace device with simulator
[17:03] <apachelogger> not the slightest idea
[17:04] <shadeslayer> dunno, doesn't work either
[17:07] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: maybe ask in #qt-creator for eike, I think he is working on qt-creator, no idea if he hangs out on irc though
[17:07] <shadeslayer> he's online
[17:07] <shadeslayer> dunno if he'll reply
[17:50] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: scru this
[17:50] <shadeslayer> it's fricking confusing
[17:51] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: copy stuff from qmltest i'd say
[18:00] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: do whatever works :P
[18:03] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdelibs] Jonathan Kolberg * 382 * debian/ (7 files in 2 dirs) New upstream release
[18:08] <bulldog98_> apachelogger: member of what?
[18:08] <apachelogger> https://projects.developer.nokia.com/uds
[18:08] <apachelogger> bulldog98: btw, I tried on windows and it built just fine
[18:09] <bulldog98> apachelogger: username bulldog98
[18:18] <apachelogger> http://i.imgur.com/oNuGp.png
[18:19] <shadeslayer> naice
[18:22] <c_smith> hey, I have a question about Kubuntu 11.10 and a bug that is present in Kubuntu 11.04: is the Amarok bug with Ipod Nano 5G fixed with 11.10? or is that still going to be present? the bug is where users have to edit the  /lib/udev/rules.d/90_ligpod.rules file and add a line to it to get it to sync up with Amarok in Kubuntu 11.04
[18:31] <apachelogger> c_smith: best get a livecd and test?
[18:38] <c_smith> might as well, if I like it, might upgrade since I don't do anything that a beta would affect badly.
[18:39]  * yofel wonders whose idea solid_networkmanager09_fake.so was...
[18:41] <c_smith> well, better leave before I hinder the channel.
[18:48] <bulldog98> is there a way to forward a gpg agent over ssh?
[18:56] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: what are you trying to accomplish?
[18:57] <yofel> probably use his gpg agent on my server
[18:57] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: signing packages at yofel’s pc
[18:57] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: debsign -r
[18:57]  * yofel is clueless
[18:57] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: anything I have to setup for that?
[18:57] <apachelogger> bulldog98: debrsign
[18:57] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: debsign -r username@host:~/source.changes file
[18:57] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: for yofel's server? yes
[18:57] <shadeslayer> add a entry for his server in .ssh/config
[19:00] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: how can I ex a command on my ssh client, when being on the server?
[19:00] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: run the debsign from your PC
[19:01] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: but I want an shell script on yofel’s pc, to execute debsign on mine
[19:01] <shadeslayer> oh, the other way round?
[19:01] <apachelogger> bulldog98: that does not make sense
[19:01] <shadeslayer> what apachelogger said
[19:01] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: yes I don’t want to change the shell
[19:01] <yofel> or rather server -> home -> server
[19:02] <apachelogger> bulldog98: you want your pc to sign a file on yofel's server
[19:02] <yofel> don't think that works...
[19:02] <bulldog98> apachelogger: yes
[19:02] <apachelogger> which is what debrsign does
[19:02] <apachelogger> you invoke the command on *your* pc
[19:02] <bulldog98> but I want to tigger that form the remote pc
[19:02] <apachelogger> and tell it what file to sign on *yovi's* server
[19:02] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: why can't you do that locally ? :P
[19:02] <yofel> ...
[19:02] <shadeslayer> haha
[19:02] <yofel> and it was yofi IIRC
[19:02] <apachelogger> oh
[19:02] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: because I have to change the Shell
[19:03] <apachelogger> yeah, I have problems with characters like that
[19:03] <shadeslayer> uh, what
[19:03] <apachelogger> haha
[19:03] <apachelogger> easy peasy
[19:03] <apachelogger> from a ssh session on the server
[19:03] <apachelogger> back tunnel to the client (which of couse also needs an ssh server and open port)
[19:04] <apachelogger> then run the commands from within that ssh session
[19:04] <apachelogger> channel reusage for debrsign might be tricky though :P
[19:04] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime] Rohan Garg * 242 * debian/ (5 files in 2 dirs) * New upstream release - Drop 0001-Connect-to-the-right-object-jobView-instead-of-this.patch, applied upstream - Drop 0002-Fix-jobs-some-times-showing-empty.patch, applied upstream
[19:07] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: did you get something running yet?
[19:07] <shadeslayer> huh, i messed up versioning a bit, i accidently used ~ninja1~ppa1 for some reason :/
[19:07] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: nope, i gave up
[19:07] <shadeslayer> and OS X crashed
[19:07]  * apachelogger cries all over shadeslayer's nose
[19:08] <shadeslayer> don't ask me how, but, i managed to do that
[19:08] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: can you vnc me into your machine or something
[19:08] <apachelogger> the lack of iphone proof of concept makes me rather sad
[19:08] <shadeslayer> hmm, i can try, give me 20 minutes to set it up
[19:08] <apachelogger> kk
[19:09] <shadeslayer> it's going to be crappy btw :P
[19:09] <apachelogger> like anyone cares
[19:09] <apachelogger> bulldog98: btw, you should totally take over maintainership of the symbian uds ui :P
[19:09] <apachelogger> it is quite a PITA to not be able to test it on a device
[19:12] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 575 * debian/ (38 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed)
[19:12] <CIA-130> * New upstream release - drop upstream patches 0001-*..0034-*
[19:12] <CIA-130> kubuntu_125_fix_kwin.diff kubuntu_krun_externalapps.diff
[19:19] <yofel> hm, now this is an interesting plasma crash
[19:20] <yofel> a) absolutely no useful stacktrace b) instead of putting one of my 2 panels with an offset from the screen edge, it just put them both on the same side, one over the other
[19:23] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokekde] Philip Muškovac * 9 * debian/changelog New upstream release
[19:31] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/marble] Jonathan Kolberg * 16 * debian/ (changelog control) * New upstream release * New upstream release
[19:35] <bulldog98> apachelogger: how do I set an ssh key, for git ssh?
[19:36] <yofel> bulldog98: should be like this I think in ~/.ssh/config 
[19:36] <yofel> Host git.debian.org
[19:36] <yofel> IdentityFile ~/.ssh/id_dsa
[19:36] <yofel> User yofel-guest
[19:37] <bulldog98> yofel: I mean for developer.nokia.com :)
[19:37] <yofel> change the host?
[19:37] <bulldog98> yofel: no how do I tell developer.nokia.com the pub key
[19:38] <yofel> good question
[19:40] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdeadmin] Philip Muškovac * 133 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[19:47] <bulldog98> yofel: found https://projects.developer.nokia.com/home/prefs/ssh_keys
[20:03] <bulldog98> apachelogger: kdepim mobile is packaged
[20:09] <Quintasan> wendar: please let me know if my email made it to you, I was on a crappy connection back then 
[20:10] <wendar> Quintasan: yes, got it, thanks
[20:10] <wendar> Quintasan: would you rather wait until you hear about the visa, or go ahead with the local option
[20:11] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdesdk] Philip Muškovac * 145 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[20:11] <wendar> Quintasan: (I've been in meetings all day, apologies for being slow)
[20:12] <Quintasan> wendar: I'd go ahead with the local option. It will be faster and with a bit of luck I might come to UDS with dualbooting device :)
[20:13] <wendar> Quintasan: okay, cool I'll call them tomorrow
[20:13] <wendar> Quintasan: if they have too much trouble with english, I can ask Magda to help
[20:14] <Quintasan> wendar: Well, let me know how it worked out with the shop. If they are babbling something about not knowing English then I'll smack them on my way there :P
[20:14] <wendar> Quintasan: :)
[20:14] <Quintasan> wendar: Magda? Hmm I remember hearing someone from Poland is working in Design Team. Is Magda the person I am thinking of?
[20:15]  * Quintasan laments his poor memory
[20:15] <wendar> Quintasan: she's in admin, rather than design
[20:15] <Quintasan> Oh. I see. Well, that should do the trick anyways :)
[20:15] <wendar> Quintasan: not sure about someone from Poland on the design team, I don't know all of them
[20:17] <Quintasan> wendar: Well, let me know how things work out.
[20:17] <wendar> Quintasan: will do
[20:17]  * Quintasan goes back to writing his assignment from Polish
[20:17] <Quintasan> Was due yesterday but...well...me being lazy etc.
[20:18] <shadeslayer> NSString *resourcePath = [[NSBundle mainBundle] resourcePath];
[20:18] <shadeslayer> Objective C looks cool
[20:19] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: ^^ that's the same for you, isn't it? :P
[20:19] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: hah, not anymore, i try and avoid going to college so that i don't get assignments :P
[20:19] <Quintasan> LOL
[20:19] <yofel> Quintasan: why are you apologising for being a human being btw? ^^
[20:20] <Quintasan> You're even better than me now. I usually have my English homework done by my minions at school
[20:20] <Quintasan> yofel: Where did I apologise? :P
[20:20] <yofel> true :D
[20:21] <shadeslayer> aahhhh
[20:21] <Quintasan> shadeslayer finally mastered the art of getting things done without touching them - if you didn't hear there is an assignment you don't have to do anything!
[20:21] <shadeslayer> yup
[20:23] <Quintasan> gah, seriously - back to work this time
[20:23] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: it's hard to keep away isn't it? :P
[20:23]  * shadeslayer has a big iPhone on his screen right now
[20:23] <Quintasan> Had it been maths I would have done it quickly
[20:24] <shadeslayer> i hate maths
[20:24] <shadeslayer> http://cl.ly/1k2i2j080c2R2z0Q271Q
[20:24] <Quintasan> But it's Polish and everything is sooooooo damn interesting compared to that
[20:24] <shadeslayer> Maths:Me :: Kryptonite:Superman
[20:25] <Quintasan> POLISH Y U NO LOGIC
[20:26] <apachelogger> bulldog98: it is?
[20:26] <apachelogger> where?
[20:26] <shadeslayer> I'm off to sleep, night guys
[20:26] <yofel> gn
[20:26] <apachelogger> bulldog98: ssh key is set in your account settings
[20:27] <bulldog98> apachelogger: yes kdepim-mobile
[20:27] <apachelogger> bulldog98: https://projects.developer.nokia.com/home/prefs/ssh_keys
[20:27] <bulldog98> apachelogger: I already found that, but thanks
[20:27] <apachelogger> >>> apt-cache show kdepim-mobile
[20:27] <apachelogger> N: Unable to locate package kdepim-mobile
[20:28] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: gn
[20:29] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I herd u has android app for UDS schedule
[20:29] <apachelogger> wanna develop it? :P
[20:29] <apachelogger> the ui that is
[20:29] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdewebdev] Philip Muškovac * 100 * debian/ (4 files) * New upstream release - Add documentation pictures to kimagemapeditor.install and klinkstatus.install
[20:29] <bulldog98> apachelogger: kontact-mobile is the name
[20:30] <Quintasan> apachelogger: You kidding me? It's Java. I ain't touching Javaz
[20:30] <apachelogger> no it is not
[20:30] <Quintasan> ?
[20:30] <apachelogger> https://projects.developer.nokia.com/uds/browser/qml/android
[20:30] <Quintasan> Oh, I'll consider it during the weekend
[20:30] <Quintasan> QML?
[20:30] <apachelogger> yus
[20:31]  * Quintasan looks at docs
[20:31] <Quintasan> Oh wait, two hours of Polish at Wednesday
[20:31] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I think I found time to read docs then
[20:31] <apachelogger> lol
[20:31] <apachelogger> :D
[20:32] <Quintasan> no, seriously. I usually fall asleep at those
[20:32] <Quintasan> like, two hours of this incomprehensible babbling
[20:32] <Quintasan> maths++
[20:35] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/blinken] Philip Muškovac * 12 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[20:42] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kalzium] Philip Muškovac * 18 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[20:42] <ScottK> Quintasan: Could be worse.  I'm at an all week conference for $WORK.  40 hours of incomprehensible babble.
[20:50] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kamera] Philip Muškovac * 13 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[20:52] <apachelogger> for some reason I just had to think of the doctor who episode where rose and the doctor watch the end of the world and for some reason the song tainted love gets played
[20:52] <apachelogger> quite the moment that was
[20:55] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kalgebra] Philip Muškovac * 15 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[20:57] <ScottK> cyphermox: Does the KDE networkmanagement applet need a change like the one you just uploaded for the Gnome applet (the adhoc thing)?
[20:57] <cyphermox> ScottK: yes, that would be a good thing, since it does appear to be affected
[20:57] <cyphermox> I was looking into that
[20:58] <cyphermox> (just not all that familiar with that code so it's taking me longer)
[20:58] <ScottK> OK.  Great.  Glad you're working on it.
[20:58] <cyphermox> can I ping you later for sponsoring?
[20:59] <ScottK> You should rather ping someone else so I can accept it for the release team, but if no one else is around, sure.
[21:03] <phoenix_firebrd> Does the 11.10 need a dual core processor for smooth playback of audio?
[21:17] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/gwenview] Philip Muškovac * 25 * debian/ (changelog control gwenview.install) * New upstream release * Use wildcard in install file
[21:20] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdetoys] Philip Muškovac * 97 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[21:24] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/korundum] Philip Muškovac * 11 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[21:36] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/perlkde] Philip Muškovac * 10 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[21:49] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdenetwork] Philip Muškovac * 157 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[22:28] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdeartwork] Philip Muškovac * 122 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[22:28]  * yofel is off to bed - good night