| b0sf9g7h | hey guys, is there a comparison somewhere between ubuntu and kubuntu? trying to decide which to install on my new netbook | 00:49 |
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| OerHeks | KDE versus unity/gnome | 00:49 |
| OerHeks | well KDE has got the best recordsoftware K3B and such more, Gnome is not bad. try both, side by side install | 00:51 |
| === matt is now known as Guest80596 | ||
| Snowhog | b0sf9g7h: See http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kdegnome | 01:02 |
| b0sf9g7h | thanks Snowhog | 01:37 |
| littlegirl | Hey there, if I have a question about Kdialog, would I ask it here, or is there another channel I should go to? | 02:05 |
| well_laid_lawn | you could try here or #kde | 02:09 |
| littlegirl | Thanks. In case here works, how come when I click cancel, I don't get the "You chose cancel." message? http://paste.ubuntu.com/701366/ | 02:09 |
| littlegirl | It looks pretty straightforward to me, but I can't figure it out. (: | 02:10 |
| well_laid_lawn | do the three other options work? | 02:11 |
| littlegirl | Also, if I do http://paste.ubuntu.com/701370/ then it echos 2 if I click the cancel button, so it's even more confusing that the original script doesn't work. | 02:11 |
| phoenix_firebrd | Anyone using 11.10? | 02:15 |
| littlegirl | Never mind - I figured it out. (: | 02:16 |
| well_laid_lawn | !11.10 | phoenix_firebrd | 02:17 |
| ubottu | phoenix_firebrd: Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) will be the fifteenth release of Ubuntu. Codename announcement here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/?p=646 Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1 | 02:17 |
| phoenix_firebrd | well_laid_lawn: I am aware of the channel | 02:17 |
| phoenix_firebrd | well_laid_lawn: do you use 11.10? | 02:18 |
| well_laid_lawn | everyone in there is using it | 02:18 |
| phoenix_firebrd | he he | 02:18 |
| phoenix_firebrd | well_laid_lawn: do you have any problem with audio when cpu is high? | 02:18 |
| ssfdre38 | hey how can i get 2 kubuntu computers talking to each other to share info | 02:20 |
| ssfdre38 | besides samba | 02:20 |
| phoenix_firebrd | ssfdre38: wired or wireless? | 02:21 |
| ssfdre38 | wired | 02:21 |
| ssfdre38 | well wired to wireless on the same network | 02:21 |
| phoenix_firebrd | ssfdre38: try dukto, i supports mutiple platfoms | 02:22 |
| === Doc_Savage96_ is now known as Doc_Savage96 | ||
| RRejun | Hola | 05:42 |
| RRejun | Buenas noches | 05:42 |
| RRejun | Como estas | 05:42 |
| RRejun | Como les va? | 05:43 |
| FloodBotK1 | RRejun: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. | 05:43 |
| RRejun | Hola | 05:53 |
| Daskreech | !es | 06:20 |
| ubottu | En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. | 06:20 |
| === oguz is now known as ogzy | ||
| Eruaran | Does anybody know how to get the clock in 11.10 to *stop* showing 24 hour time???? | 08:36 |
| Eruaran | The locale settings (retarded that the user should have to poke around in the locale settings just to change to a 12 hour clock that 98% of users will want) show PH:MM:SS AMPM but the clock remains 24 hour | 08:39 |
| Daskreech | Eruaran: Ah right you found itbut yes Locale is where it is | 08:40 |
| Eruaran | It shouldn't annoy me being beta 2 and all | 08:42 |
| Eruaran | But its driving me mad | 08:42 |
| Eruaran | :P | 08:42 |
| Eruaran | 24 hour clock... like a scratching ferret in my brain... | 08:43 |
| Eruaran | It wont leave me aloooone! | 08:43 |
| * Eruaran bites his hand | 08:43 | |
| Daskreech | Eruaran: Just switch it and leave it alone then :) | 08:47 |
| Eruaran | I want it on 12 hour | 08:47 |
| Eruaran | I have set it on 12 hour | 08:47 |
| Eruaran | yet it stays on 24 hour | 08:47 |
| Eruaran | its gnawing at my brain | 08:47 |
| === dev_ is now known as tonymc | ||
| Girly-Girl | I've got a problem after installing unity on top of Kubuntu, when I start kde, gnome stuff starts in background, and it takes long to load, if kde desktop (plasma) crashes, see gnome behind it! | 09:37 |
| === koalix is now known as ninniuz | ||
| Arnold | Girly-Girl, how exactly did you install it? From Muon Software Packager, or from 'unity' package? | 09:39 |
| Girly-Girl | aptitude ubuntu-desktop | 09:40 |
| Girly-Girl | Arnold: | 09:40 |
| Arnold | Hmm, that kind of installs more than you would need for Unity.. however, are you starting it with which login manager, and which session? | 09:40 |
| Girly-Girl | kdm | 09:41 |
| Girly-Girl | session kde | 09:41 |
| Arnold | And you select KDE Workspace or Plasma? | 09:41 |
| Arnold | Ah, I see. | 09:41 |
| Arnold | Yet Gnome stuffs start up with KDE.. | 09:41 |
| Girly-Girl | yes | 09:41 |
| Arnold | I think it has to do with the autostarting services or startup programs. | 09:41 |
| Girly-Girl | Arnold: I think nautilus starts and does fishy things | 09:42 |
| Arnold | I'll be back restarting to KDE, so that I can help you out further. | 09:42 |
| Girly-Girl | Arnold: Thanks | 09:42 |
| Arnold | Girly-Girl, no problem, restarting it now. | 09:42 |
| metallisto | hello: why would the pkm uninstall kubuntu-desktop when i try to install fcron? | 09:44 |
| Girly-Girl | metallisto: Its an extra dummy package safe to remove | 09:44 |
| metallisto | thanks | 09:44 |
| Girly-Girl | Arnold: If you kquitapp plasma-desktop do you see gnome behind? | 09:45 |
| Arnold | I don't have Unity/GNOME 3 installed, but I think I know where it is specified to start. | 09:45 |
| Arnold | Girly-Girl: alright. Go to System Settings, and look for Startup and Shutdown | 09:45 |
| Arnold | Should be either in the Autostart area, or Service Manager | 09:46 |
| Girly-Girl | Arnold: Found only two gnome related things | 09:46 |
| Arnold | Uncheck them to disable them from starting up. | 09:46 |
| Girly-Girl | Arnold: one for nautilus-desktop and one for gtk integration | 09:46 |
| Arnold | gtk2-default-theme.rc.sh should stay on. | 09:47 |
| Arnold | But the rest of GNOME and its things should be disabled. | 09:47 |
| Arnold | The former is to give GTK+ apps a KDE theme integration, so that's harmless. | 09:47 |
| Girly-Girl | Arnold: Ok thanks i'll do that later | 09:47 |
| Arnold | Girly-Girl: it's just GNOME applications or session files trying to be more integrated with KDE's session, nothing more. | 09:48 |
| Arnold | Let me know if it works, or not. | 09:48 |
| Girly-Girl | Arnold: I haven't done it yet but I assume it works because if I kquitapp plasma-desktop, I see gnome's desktop. If I killall nautilus-desktop then kquitapp plasma-desktop, I see blank area | 09:49 |
| Arnold | Aha, then that makes sense. Atleast both GNOME and KDE are integral to themselves. | 09:50 |
| Girly-Girl | Arnold: But I have to remove gnome, having it is anoying like programs like to open nautilus by default and all, once nautilus browser starts, so does the desktop | 10:01 |
| Arnold | Well, there is a way to delete the packages of ubuntu-desktop, while leaving kubuntu-desktop intact. | 10:02 |
| Arnold | Since ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage, nothing more. | 10:02 |
| Arnold | Girly-Girl: install and run gconf-editor, search for apps/nautilus/preferences and untick show desktop | 10:05 |
| Girly-Girl | Arnold: Why would I do that? | 10:06 |
| Arnold | Girly-Girl: so it won't start GNOME's desktop session whenever you start Nautilus | 10:06 |
| Arnold | Plus you can also restore the default applications settings in KDE easily. | 10:06 |
| Arnold | But if you want to get rid of all ubuntu-desktop's GNOME packages, leaving the raw kubuntu-desktop one, then that is also possible with a workaround. | 10:07 |
| Girly-Girl | I'll just remove it I have no use for gnome anyway, I'm a die hard KDE user since KDE 3.3X | 10:08 |
| Arnold | Girly-Girl: it's possible to do it properly with aptitude. Are you familiar with that tool? | 10:10 |
| Girly-Girl | Arnold: yes | 10:10 |
| Arnold | Girly-Girl: then you just have to remove the ubuntu-desktop virtual package, and let kubuntu-desktop one selected. | 10:11 |
| Girly-Girl | Arnold: Or there is a list of package put by ubuntu-desktop on aysu's site | 10:11 |
| Arnold | Girly-Girl: hehe, not sure about that. I did converted my Ubuntu system into a Lubuntu one, and had no GNOME packages there at all (besides the mandatory GTK+ libraries and all) | 10:12 |
| Arnold | It was a fun experience, plus I learned more about (?)Ubuntu a lot. Rather than just thinking Arch Linux having the upper hand and all.... | 10:14 |
| === Girly-Girl is now known as GirlyGirl | ||
| Arnold | GirlyGirl: just read the howto page for removing the ubuntu-desktop metapackage, and aysiu's advice was to install metapackages with aptitude, rather than apt-get, so that you can purge them easily with the packages too, not just the metapackage. | 10:31 |
| * yofel notes that just removing the ubuntu-desktop metapackage won't remove anything else | 10:37 | |
| yofel | the *buntu-* metapackages get their dependencies marked as manually installed, so you need to remove all of them individually | 10:38 |
| Arnold | yofel: according to that how-to, it doesn't applies if you're handling packages with aptitude, rather than apt-get | 10:40 |
| Arnold | With aptitude, you're removing packages along with the metapackage. So all goes down. | 10:41 |
| yofel | Arnold: no, the difference is that with apt-get you need to run autoremove to remove unecessary packages, aptitude does that by itself | 10:49 |
| yofel | but that doesn't have any effect for the *buntu metapackages | 10:49 |
| yofel | as those are marked as never mark-auto in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove | 10:50 |
| yofel | hm, seems even to be the case for all metapackages | 10:50 |
| Arnold | Hmm, I was able to successfully delete the ubuntu-desktop packages and leave only ubuntu-core ones (much like in a difference way) | 10:53 |
| Arnold | Then I was able to install lubuntu-desktop packages. | 10:54 |
| fatum | hello there. I have kubuntu dualboot with win7.. how do I automount windows partition on startup? I knew there was a way, but can't recall.. | 10:57 |
| Arnold | fatum: there is the ntfs-config way (not sure if it works, was broken a few releases ago), and there's the manual way by editing /etc/fstab | 10:58 |
| Arnold | fatum: "/dev/sda1 /media/Windows ntfs-3g quiet,defaults,rw 0 0" | 10:59 |
| Arnold | And /dev/sda1 is the first partition of the first disk (IDE HDD), /media/Windows/ is the mount point where this partition is to the mounted, and the rest of the settings are to stay intact. | 11:00 |
| Arnold | You'll have to modify according to your partitioning and taste. /dev/sdX, where X is the partition where your Windows partition is located (if you have more, you can add more of these lines) | 11:01 |
| Arnold | And /media/X, where X is the folder name you want it to mount it. But you have to create them with "sudo mkdir X", or else it won't automount them. | 11:01 |
| fatum | all right.. rw 0 0 means I can't read nor write? | 11:05 |
| Arnold | rw means read-write, the last two digits are dump-freq and pass-num. | 11:06 |
| Arnold | fatum: mounting with NTFS-3g with rw solves all kind of writing errors you might have due to lack of privilege of doing so. | 11:07 |
| fatum | very nice.. what about executable permission? | 11:07 |
| fatum | *permission to execute | 11:08 |
| Arnold | Also not a problem anymore. I was able to launch applications from it without chmod +x (which that failed anyhow). | 11:09 |
| === zorael_ is now known as zorael | ||
| fatum | Arnold: /dev/sda2: command not found | 11:11 |
| Arnold | fatum: you'll have to add them in /etc/fstab, not in the terminal | 11:11 |
| fatum | got it ;-) | 11:21 |
| fatum | thanks.. need to try it out, brb | 11:23 |
| === Realmkeeper is now known as Guest64854 | ||
| rethus | hi, my mic-volume seems to adjust themself. | 11:47 |
| rethus | how can i disable this? | 11:47 |
| Eruaran | you cant, its a poltergeist | 11:48 |
| Eruaran | ;) | 11:48 |
| Eruaran | tell it to go away | 11:49 |
| Eruaran | :P | 11:49 |
| rethus | har har har :D | 11:49 |
| rethus | someone know a solution | 11:55 |
| supados | where i am...?? | 12:03 |
| Eruaran | rethus: sorry I don't know | 12:05 |
| Eruaran | rethus: does the volume setting change or just the sound with the volume setting the same? | 12:06 |
| rethus | the sound-slider walk right and left | 12:07 |
| ArGGu^^ | rethus maybe some app is changing the volume | 12:08 |
| rethus | i don't know... till pulseaudio is establish in kde i only have problems with my sound | 12:08 |
| BluesKaj | Hey all | 12:13 |
| Zlatan | Hello, a Kubuntu 11.04 + KDE4.7 user question: I can use a network printer HP3055 as a scanner with Ubuntu, but my recent Kubuntu machine can recognize it only as a printer, no scanner option with Skanlite. Similar problem here while Using Debian Squeeze, Gnome version, looks like only Ubuntu can recognize HP3055 correctly. Can it be fixed for Kubuntu somehow? Thank you | 12:27 |
| KIAaze | In Ubuntu, I think it's sane which takes care of scanners. | 12:29 |
| KIAaze | So mayeb you should have a look at commands like "sane-find-scanner" and "scanimage -L" to see which driver the scanner runs on, etc | 12:30 |
| KIAaze | it could also be a 64-bit/32-bit issue | 12:31 |
| KIAaze | I had a lot of problems getting an HP scanner to work because of that | 12:31 |
| Zlatan | All my systems were 32bit | 12:31 |
| KIAaze | only the 32-bit driver existed/worked | 12:31 |
| Zlatan | KIAaze: can I show commands output for you in PM? | 12:35 |
| KIAaze | if you want, but I'm not sure I can help much | 12:36 |
| KIAaze | at least not more than google ^^ | 12:36 |
| KIAaze | just a minute, I'm restarting konversation. It's hiding my mouse. | 12:37 |
| KIAaze | back | 12:38 |
| Zlatan | I will not bother you then;) Thanks anyway | 12:40 |
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| === varlan is now known as varlucian | ||
| ironfroggy | I just moved from an intel-gfx t510 to a t520 with dual intel/nv and i'm running that in intel mode. kubuntu 11.04 on both, but i can't get external displays detected on the new machine. | 12:59 |
| ironfroggy | Does anyone maybe know why that might be or what I may be able to do to get an external display recognized? | 12:59 |
| === ironfroggy_ is now known as ironfroggy | ||
| === allquixotic_ is now known as allquixotic | ||
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| TheLastProject | I have "Euro on 5" set in the Keyboard settings on Kubuntu 11.04, however, I still can't type the Euro symbol | 13:32 |
| TheLastProject | Not with Ctrl+5, not with Alt+5, not with Ctrl+Alt+5, not with Ctrl+Shift+5, not with Ctrl+Alt+Shift+5, not with Alt+Shift+5, really just not... What can I do about this? | 13:32 |
| OerHeks | TheLastProject, alt-gr + 5 | 13:40 |
| TheLastProject | Ah... | 13:40 |
| TheLastProject | Geez | 13:40 |
| TheLastProject | That explains a lot | 13:41 |
| OerHeks | yw | 13:41 |
| TheLastProject | lol | 13:41 |
| FloodBotK1 | TheLastProject: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. | 13:41 |
| TheLastProject | I'm used to it being on Ctrl+Alt on Windows, thanks! (Bot, don't overreact) | 13:41 |
| OerHeks | now you ca make someone happy with € | 13:42 |
| TheLastProject | Myself :P | 13:42 |
| ZeTa | hey guys | 13:51 |
| ZeTa | i have a problem with my conecction in kubuntu | 13:52 |
| ZeTa | becouse i have a network with no difusion ssid | 13:52 |
| ZeTa | and i can't connect... | 13:52 |
| ZeTa | (sorry by my horrible english... ) | 13:53 |
| === bajk-tragbar_ is now known as kbroulik | ||
| haitam_ | hi all | 14:28 |
| haitam_ | :) | 14:28 |
| GirlyGirl | Poor WIFI reception compared to windows with Atheros Ar9285 any idea? | 14:30 |
| GirlyGirl | . | 14:35 |
| === bajk-tragbar is now known as kbroulik | ||
| jbwiv | guys, I recently installed kubuntu over a vanilla 11.10 install. I'm using firefox as my browser, and none of the appropriate application mappings seem to be there (for example, when I download a zip, FF tries to open it with gvim. How can I get the appropriate mappings set to a reasonable set of defaults? | 14:59 |
| Trashi | hi guys. i installed kubuntu and im missing the grid desktop. For some reason the grouping desktop layout is not included in the ubuntu repository. how can i enable it? | 15:45 |
| === Doc_Savage96_ is now known as Doc_Savage96 | ||
| === koalix is now known as ninniuz | ||
| avihay_ | wrong place to ask, but can anyone tell me how to set up auto-login on a passwordless admin account in WinXP | 16:15 |
| avihay_ | in kdm it's fairly easy, but I don't see any option to do it in win | 16:16 |
| russ_ | having trouble here my webcam works just fine in Cheese and other apps but adobe flash isnt reading my cam from within firefox any ideas? | 16:24 |
| russ_ | in the flash settings it finds the usb mic thats built into the webcam and that works just not a webcam for a selection | 16:29 |
| avihay_ | solved | 16:31 |
| === GirlyGirl_ is now known as GirlyGirl | ||
| camilo | Hi | 16:59 |
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| === skreech_ is now known as DaSkreech | ||
| === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 | ||
| roderyck | hello | 18:14 |
| OerHeks | hi roderyck | 18:16 |
| roderyck | hi i just install konversation on ubuntu ..kde is light | 18:17 |
| roderyck | 73 | 18:18 |
| === dani is now known as Guest30228 | ||
| Juanpa | sddd | 19:08 |
| z7 | hi | 19:11 |
| DaSkreech | hi | 19:17 |
| ambusher_ | help me change flash screen in virtualbox | 19:24 |
| phoenix_firebrd | ambusher_: you mean the plymoth splash screen? | 19:25 |
| === vova is now known as kot_kostyan | ||
| ambusher_ | no d one which says "ubuntu" | 19:25 |
| phoenix_firebrd | ambusher_: while booting? | 19:26 |
| ambusher_ | yep | 19:26 |
| phoenix_firebrd | ambusher_: thats the plymouth theme | 19:26 |
| ambusher_ | oh.. hw to change it | 19:26 |
| phoenix_firebrd | ambusher_: try this http://www.ubuntugeek.com/plymouth-manager-simple-tool-to-change-splash-screen-themes.html | 19:27 |
| ambusher_ | thanx | 19:28 |
| phoenix_firebrd | ambusher_: yw | 19:28 |
| phoenix_firebrd | anyone there to help? | 20:20 |
| rork | phoenix_firebrd: please ask the real question :) | 20:25 |
| phoenix_firebrd | rork: its about 11.10, if you find it wrong to discuss it here, can you come to #ubuntu+1 | 20:26 |
| === IdleOne is now known as IknowNotUbuntu | ||
| The_Jag | Please I need help setting up mercurial to clone a remote repo | 20:37 |
| The_Jag | I got the bash: hg: command not found error | 20:38 |
| The_Jag | please any help? | 20:40 |
| Pici | The_Jag: You need to install mercurial first. | 20:42 |
| Pici | The_Jag: sudo apt-get install mercurial | 20:43 |
| The_Jag | Pici: I have all correctly set up | 20:44 |
| The_Jag | only just doing hg clone ssh://remote/path doesn't work | 20:45 |
| === IknowNotUbuntu is now known as IdleOne | ||
| The_Jag | which is because ssh cannot find hg on the remote machine (which obviously is present) | 20:45 |
| DaSkreech | which hg ? | 20:51 |
| Trashi | hi. by default in kde exists an "grid desktop"-layout which im missing in (k)ubuntu... does anybody know how to enable? i just want to align all my widgets on the desktop on grid .. | 21:49 |
| gomiboy | Trashi: not sure if you mean this: right click on desktop->desktop settings->(unlock widgets)->Layout: Newspaper | 21:53 |
| Trashi | gomiboy: i know that newspaper layout but i thought in default kde would be also a "grid/group layout" which allows to align all widgets on grid without the newspaper layout. take a look for that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tOAzCQUd5o | 21:59 |
| Trashi | gomiboy: did try to install but there were many errors while buildung/installing.. | 22:00 |
| Trashi | gomiboy: by default there should be a "grid desktop" layout under Desktop->DesktopSettings | 22:02 |
| Trashi | gomiboy: did isntall kdeplasma-addons package but no change :( | 22:02 |
| gomiboy | Trashi: never seen before that grind thing, so it's not "by default", and that project in the links seems dead since 2010 :( | 22:07 |
| Trashi | gomiboy: hm ok :/ thanks anyway | 22:08 |
| Trashi | gomiboy: hm ... they guys at #kde sais that the grid layout comes with the kdeplasma-addons package... not so in ubuntu * | 22:13 |
| Trashi | *grrrrr* | 22:13 |
| docid | ok, quick little issue, seems my task bar doesnt understand Z axis properly, after running for a few days or weeks, it will start to go where i click something, it drops down for me to choose which window i want from that task, but it the click lands on the window below it instead of the dropdown option | 23:23 |
| docid | running maverick on this one, but seeing it on my natty machines as well | 23:23 |
| szal | ? | 23:23 |
| docid | sorry, was i unclear? | 23:24 |
| docid | im having that issue lately | 23:24 |
| docid | of being unclear that is | 23:24 |
| docid | and the taskbar issue as well | 23:24 |
| docid | ok, just for example, say ya got 11 firefox windows open and they all stack on the plasma task list bar as a single entry | 23:25 |
| docid | so you click the firfox extry and it drops down a list of firefox windows | 23:25 |
| docid | now , if there is a window behind that list of windows, when i click on the list, the click lands on the window behind the list | 23:26 |
| szal | why would one want multiple FF instances? that's what tabs are for :P | 23:26 |
| docid | instead of selecting the window i want | 23:26 |
| docid | can only get about 40 tabs on a single window | 23:26 |
| docid | maybe 50 before it starts scrolling and gets hard to manage | 23:26 |
| SIR_Taco | szal: it's best not to ask why | 23:27 |
| docid | and it was just for example./.. terminator, file browser, etc, doesnt matter what the program is, still happens | 23:27 |
| docid | lol taco | 23:27 |
| docid | and sometimes i have a different browser on each monitor, handy for research | 23:28 |
| docid | restarting kdm resolves it, but obviously not a proper solution | 23:28 |
| docid | having trouble googleing an answer due to not being able to word the problem in a way that results in related results | 23:29 |
| docid | also, seem to have been afflicted with something that is making me type as though english were not my first language, but i doubt you all can help with that | 23:30 |
| docid | so any ideas? or any info that might help ? | 23:31 |
| SIR_Taco | docid: unfortunately I really haven't played around with that option | 23:31 |
| docid | option? | 23:31 |
| * szal has never had any such problem | 23:32 | |
| SIR_Taco | docid: ok, maybe I don't understand what you're talking about then haha | 23:32 |
| docid | ok, plasma task bar, where it shows all the programs and windows you have open.... | 23:32 |
| docid | we on the same page? | 23:33 |
| SIR_Taco | yep | 23:33 |
| docid | if you have several of the same program running, they stack in that bar, get a little arrow with a number on the edge of the entry | 23:33 |
| SIR_Taco | ok, so they're grouping... go on | 23:33 |
| docid | click that entry and it drops down so you can select what window you want | 23:33 |
| SIR_Taco | yep | 23:34 |
| docid | now, if there is a full screen window, or any other window under that list | 23:34 |
| docid | when you click something from thhe list, the click goes to the window behind, instead of the list | 23:34 |
| docid | like the back window is grabbing the mouse | 23:34 |
| docid | so in order to change tasks i have to minimise, or move enough stuff so i can see desktop behind it | 23:35 |
| docid | behind the dropdown list | 23:35 |
| docid | otherwise cannot click the list... | 23:35 |
| SIR_Taco | ok woah... stop a second... when you say "it goes to the window behind" you mean the 'full screen' window? | 23:35 |
| docid | sure, or whatever else is back there | 23:35 |
| docid | whatever the top window is behind the list | 23:36 |
| SIR_Taco | what is the 'full screen window'? Firefox after you've hit F11? or a full-screen flash player? | 23:36 |
| docid | ok, now heres the weird part, its only on the right half of the taskbar... | 23:36 |
| docid | ohh | 23:36 |
| docid | sorry, i meen a maximised window, | 23:37 |
| docid | or anything floatingg behind the list | 23:37 |
| docid | was trying to use fullscreen window for clarity (see above... having issues with clarity) | 23:37 |
| SIR_Taco | ok... so what do you want it to do? | 23:37 |
| docid | i want the click to select the window from the list | 23:37 |
| docid | like it normally does | 23:37 |
| SIR_Taco | as-in click and have a list show up to select from? | 23:38 |
| docid | well, if there are grouped programs, i click on the grouped programs on the task bar, it drops down a list | 23:38 |
| docid | the problem is selecting from that list | 23:38 |
| docid | the click doesnt go to the dropped down list | 23:39 |
| SIR_Taco | ok.... | 23:39 |
| docid | it goes to windows behind the list | 23:39 |
| SIR_Taco | so, lets say you have 4 Firefox windows open.... one is maximized the other 3 are minimized.... you click on "FireFox...." in the taskbar, and you get the maximized one and not a list? | 23:40 |
| docid | no | 23:40 |
| docid | i get a dropdown list | 23:40 |
| docid | but i cant click on the list | 23:40 |
| docid | the clicks go through the list to the window behind it | 23:40 |
| SIR_Taco | oooooh... ok... so say you had Gimp open, you click "FireFox...." in the task bar, click on a list item for that group and you're back to Gimp? | 23:41 |
| docid | if gimp is behind where that list dropped down, yes | 23:42 |
| docid | well, but the list stays up untill i click it again | 23:42 |
| SIR_Taco | ok, I see what you're saying now | 23:42 |
| docid | unable to select from the list until i move everything away from behind where the list drops down | 23:42 |
| docid | hard one to google | 23:43 |
| docid | maybe i dont have the vocabulary | 23:43 |
| SIR_Taco | I'd file a bug, but until then you could turn off grouping (grouping pisses me off haha) | 23:43 |
| docid | as i said, this usually happens after running for some time.... | 23:44 |
| docid | ohh my, id have to have like a 4 row task list then | 23:44 |
| docid | would take up sooo much space | 23:44 |
| docid | i kind of run much at once | 23:44 |
| SIR_Taco | well there's no quick fix for that... not sure where the problem is exactly, but likely with plasma | 23:45 |
| docid | thats what i figgured, | 23:45 |
| docid | how to reload plasma without killing running apps, etc | 23:45 |
| docid | ? | 23:45 |
| docid | someway i can make it just reload the desktop in place? | 23:45 |
| SIR_Taco | http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma#Reloading_Plasma | 23:46 |
| docid | ahh, thanks much :) | 23:46 |
| SIR_Taco | I'd probably suggest "kquitapp plasma-desktop && plasma-desktop" (just incase Konsole dies when you do it) | 23:47 |
| docid | i usually do that sort of thing from an actual console | 23:48 |
| docid | outside of the de | 23:48 |
| docid | otherwise it feels like sawing on a branch yer sittin on | 23:48 |
| Daskreech | docid: it won't | 23:49 |
| Daskreech | plasma-desktop is just the background and pretty buttons None of the applications are tied to it | 23:49 |
| Daskreech | You can even run plasma-desktop in gnome and then have only Gnome applications inside it | 23:49 |
| docid | aye, thats what i thought, but didnt quite know how to kill it and bring it back up | 23:49 |
| docid | ohh fun, next time kde breaks to the point where it wont load anymore ill remember that.... i hope | 23:50 |
| Daskreech | I used to prevent plasma from starting back when I had a few hundred megs of RAM and I was running test versions of KDE | 23:50 |
| Daskreech | but you can make a small script that simply says kquitapp plasma-desktop && sleep 4 && plasma-desktop | 23:50 |
| Daskreech | call it newplas or something | 23:51 |
| docid | aye | 23:51 |
| Daskreech | anytime it's giving too much problems just press alt+F2 and type newplas and tada! | 23:51 |
| docid | welll, that didnt work out too well | 23:51 |
| Daskreech | krunner is also not tied to plasma-desktop so you can have just krunner running and it will be able to launch new programs etc | 23:51 |
| docid | ohh weird, it reloaded and my desktop came back when i clicked it, fun | 23:52 |
| docid | bam, that fixes it... thanks much | 23:52 |
| docid | other than memory lockups that was my olny reason to reboot | 23:52 |
| Daskreech | memory lockups sounds harsh | 23:53 |
| Daskreech | what's happening there? | 23:53 |
| docid | well, with a vbox open and something using wine leaking memory like the fed does cash.... slams into swap and everything comes to a halt, usually stuck using alt-sysreq combos because cant switch tty or ssh in | 23:54 |
| docid | usually teamviewer left open is the cause | 23:55 |
| SIR_Taco | but the group list is fixed? | 23:55 |
| docid | the plasma reload works great | 23:55 |
| Daskreech | docid: alt-sysreq and killX then | 23:56 |
| Daskreech | don't need to reboot | 23:56 |
| docid | how to killX with alt-sysreq? usually get nothing beack untill it reboots, using R E I S U B | 23:56 |
| SIR_Taco | docid: still file a bug about it... even if it takes a while to appear, there's something not right going on | 23:57 |
| docid | will have to do it from home... shouldnt really be debugging my desktop at work in the first place :) | 23:57 |
| Daskreech | docid: Magic keys just do what you tell them to there is no indicators :) | 23:59 |
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