[03:26] <Sidvee> ChanServ :
[03:26] <Sidvee> ChanServ:
[03:26] <Sidvee> @ChanServ:
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[03:27] <urlin2u> Sidvee, you need something?
[03:29] <Sidvee> Oh yes .
[03:29] <Sidvee> My system running multiple gpu's. So it is heating up and battery is drying up soon as well. How can I get on gpu switch off?
[03:30] <urlin2u> not sure myself.
[03:30] <Sidvee> Give it a try
[03:31] <Sidvee> No one is replying me on other channels. #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:31] <Sidvee> don't know whom to address
[03:32] <bodhizazen> Sidvee, try cleaning you system
[03:32] <bodhizazen> ie turn it off, clean out the dust inside
[03:32] <Sidvee> Eh. Its happens for every fresh install
[03:33] <bodhizazen> or run top and see what is using your cpu
[03:33] <bodhizazen> Sometime you can simply boot your bios and monitor your temp without running a OS
[03:35] <bodhizazen> If it overheats either it is a problem with ventilation , heat sink (the paste on your CPU), or something is running 90-100 % on your cpu , top will show you the latter
[03:35] <Sidvee> bodhizazen, it was fine with windows
[03:35] <bodhizazen> That does no mean much
[03:36] <bodhizazen> clean the machine or run top
[03:36] <philipballew> id run top first
[05:35] <philipballew> anyone wanna recomend a good light music player?
[05:40] <philipballew> maybe noone here has good music taste i see :)
[06:20] <_schism_> good morning all
[06:25] <philipballew> hello _schism_
[06:29] <_schism_> philipballew, question for you sir.  I just installed 10.04 on a machine with a G4V300-D motherboard and the nic worked fine until I did an update then a reboot now nothing on any kernel. any ideas?  google is failing me
[06:30] <philipballew> alright
[06:31] <philipballew> network controller correct? _schism_
[06:32] <philipballew> wifi or ethernet not working?
[06:32] <_schism_> yes sir built in 10/100 nic
[06:32] <_schism_> ethernet
[06:32] <philipballew> alright. well lets at least open a terminal and see whats going on
[06:32] <_schism_> lshw shows it so does ifconfig -a
[06:33] <philipballew> do ifconfig and ifconfig -a and paste them both here
[06:33] <philipballew> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[06:33] <_schism_> different machine but I will try to get it word for word
[06:34] <philipballew> does it not have wifi?
[06:34] <philipballew> ill help you with out having you copy right now
[06:34] <philipballew> id myself open a terminal and see when ifconfig does
[06:35] <philipballew> then if ifconfig -a has anything else
[06:35] <_schism_> no wifi its a tower
[06:35] <Snicksie> use an usbstick, _schism_ :)
[06:35] <philipballew> i have 5 right next to me
[06:35] <_schism_> Snicksie, just went and got one
[06:36] <Snicksie> nice :)
[06:36] <_schism_> give me a moment please
[06:36] <philipballew> no hurry
[06:39] <philipballew> if ifconfig -a has something ifconfig doesnt you can up the interface
[06:40] <_schism_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/701478/
[06:41] <philipballew> whats ifconfig -a out of curiosity
[06:43] <philipballew> _schism_,
[06:43] <_schism_> that was ifconfig -s
[06:43] <_schism_> that was ifconfig -a I mean
[06:44] <philipballew> do ifconfig then
[06:44] <philipballew> no -a
[06:44] <_schism_> okie dokei
[06:44] <Snicksie> "ifconfig eth0 up" doesn't help you I guess, _schism_ ?
[06:45] <philipballew> Snicksie, thats what im about to see:)
[06:45] <Snicksie> ah, okay :)
[06:45] <_schism_> Snicksie, it didnt but by god I will try it again
[06:45] <Snicksie> maybe it's just a dhcp-problem?
[06:47] <philipballew> would restarting the network fix that?
[06:47] <_schism_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/701481/
[06:47] <_schism_> Snicksie, and no love yet again
[06:47]  * philipballew ponders
[06:47] <philipballew> !!!!!
[06:47] <_schism_> tried power cycling the router allready
[06:47] <philipballew> thats ifconfig and no eth0!!!
[06:47] <_schism_> yep
[06:48] <_schism_> thats what I dont understand I'm new and all but that dont look right
[06:48] <philipballew> sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[06:48] <philipballew> whats that do?
[06:48] <_schism_> nothing went to the next line with no print out
[06:48] <philipballew> thats not bad
[06:49] <philipballew> do that then do ifconfig again
[06:49] <_schism_> hmm now ifconfig is showing the nic........
[06:49] <philipballew> exactly
[06:49] <philipballew> :)
[06:50] <_schism_> but it didnt do it after the up it did it after I gave it a loving kick with my boot
[06:50] <_schism_> could be coincedence :)
[06:50] <philipballew> well does it work then?
[06:50] <Snicksie> maybe the cable wasn't connected enough? :p
[06:51] <philipballew> that was a thought of mine to
[06:51] <_schism_> still doesnt show up under the network connections dialog
[06:52] <_schism_> and it isnt showing an inet address on the nic either
[06:52] <_schism_> in ifconfig
[06:52] <_schism_> maybe try rebooting the box?
[06:52] <philipballew> sudo reboot
[06:52] <_schism_> thats what I was thinking
[06:53] <_schism_> and have you guys tried the program Guake?
[06:53] <philipballew> no, what is it?
[06:54] <_schism_> its like a pull down terminal.  I hit f12 and a terminal pops down from the top of my screen and I do command line stuff and hit f12 and it goes back up
[06:55] <_schism_> http://guake.org/
[06:55] <_schism_> its in the repos
[06:55] <_schism_> only thing I have found that doesnt work in it is x fowarding
[06:55] <philipballew> i could look into it
[06:55] <philipballew> im in lxde right now
[06:56] <_schism_> I think it works in lxde as well.  It works in awesome so....
[06:56] <_schism_> ok rebooted and still n onic in the network connections tab and none in the ifconfig either
[06:57] <_schism_> do up and it shows in ifconfig but still no connection
[06:57] <_schism_> bah may just reinstall ubuntu to make it easy and do no updates :)
[06:57] <philipballew> you in gnome?
[06:57] <philipballew> no, i can mess  with it
[06:58] <_schism_> on both machines this one and the one I am fighting with
[07:00] <philipballew> is nm applet have networking checked?
[07:01] <_schism_> nm applet?
[07:02] <philipballew> yeah. its the thing is the top bar
[07:02] <philipballew> right side
[07:02] <_schism_> dont have one which I found odd
[07:03] <philipballew> reboot and tell me what happens
[07:04] <_schism_> rebooting now
[07:05] <_schism_> wow its 3am I have been screwing with this thing for 4 hours.  I am having a flashback to installing windows.... :)
[07:06] <philipballew> instaling ubuntu is easier usually
[07:07] <_schism_> I know yanking your chain.  other than an odd soundcard thing on my laptop I have never had a problem installing ubuntu and i have put it on probably 20 boxes by now
[07:07] <_schism_> same thing on the reboot
[07:07] <philipballew> you rebooted?
[07:07] <philipballew> never saw you go offline. :)
[07:07] <philipballew> haha
[07:08] <_schism_> different machine.  I am using this one that one cant get on the net
[07:08] <philipballew> oh, alright
[07:08] <_schism_> yeppers no network for it.  begining to wonder if I got a corrputed dl of the iso
[07:09] <philipballew> well anything is possible. you can try a different iso if you want
[07:10] <philipballew> how old is your machine
[07:10] <_schism_> I may have to. grabbing the alternat install cd now.  its going to run headless anyway so I figgure xfce or lxde will be a bit nicer than gnome for it anyway
[07:10] <_schism_> ya know I have no idea
[07:10] <philipballew> im on lxde right now
[07:10] <philipballew> its nice
[07:12] <_schism_> yeah I used it on my first machine I had nix on.  was an old dell laptop that hated running gnome and lxde ran on it decent.  And now I have grown used to gnome 2.x so I dont want to go to unity
[07:12] <philipballew> i use unity. took 1 week to get used to and really like
[07:13] <_schism_> I have heard both sides.  I just like gnome 2.x and floss is freedome so... ;)
[07:14] <_schism_> and a silly question, can the startup disc creator create non ubuntu bootable usb drives?
[07:18] <M0hi> I believe that the answer is Yes :)
[07:19] <_schism_> wow thats kinda nifty.  use ubuntu to create a arch bootable usb drive................
[07:20] <M0hi> _schism_: Sorry the answer is No :[
[07:20] <M0hi> wrongly ready the question. Startup disk creator is only for *buntu family AFAIK
[07:21] <_schism_> lol figgured as much.  thank goodness for the suse build service!  although all I run is ubuntu so its a moot point
[07:21] <philipballew> id use unetbootin
[07:22] <M0hi> I used multisystem once. But not sure about it now
[07:23] <_schism_> hmmm ya know this thing has a raid-5 on it (whatever that is) that wouldnt have anything to do with it would it?
[07:24] <philipballew> no idea. maybe M0hi knows
[07:26] <M0hi> huh?
[07:26] <M0hi> I was reading http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1527260.html
[07:28] <philipballew> M0hi, would raid cause any network problrms you think
[07:28] <philipballew> i said no
[07:30] <M0hi> Nope
[10:13] <E3D3> Who can make me a little wiser about partitioning for multiboot ?
[10:14] <M0hi> E3D3: share what you did/ planned to do, so that it will be easy for others to help =]
[10:31] <E3D3> or
[10:31] <E3D3> I have an intern harddisc that I want to use with 4 OS's/distro's.
[10:31] <E3D3> 1 must be stable for a noob = Ubuntu, 2 = my unstable favorite LMDE, 3 & 4 can change (now Debian & ..? Fedora ?)
[10:35] <M0hi> E3D3: Are you planning to install more applications in any particular OS?
[10:35] <geirha> Make a partition for each, and a swap partition they can share.
[10:37] <E3D3> M0hi: I think I will use LMDE the most but don't use big/a lot programs, and fill Ubuntu a little with some games (a rarely do). The others will be experimenting.
[10:39] <E3D3> geirha: thx
[10:44] <geirha> The main problem is boot loader. Every OS you install will want to install a boot loader
[10:45] <geirha> One way to handle that is to let one of the OS install grub on /dev/sda, the others install it on their respective partitions /dev/sda2 /dev/sda3 etc
[10:45] <geirha> Then you set up chainload entries in the grub on /dev/sda
[10:46] <geirha> I've done that in the past with multiple Ubuntu installs
[10:48] <E3D3> Yes, I thought also that will be the best for me. Confusing for me where the ms_dos-entries in my GRUB2, I think due to (for me new) ext4.
[10:48] <E3D3> I worked before with grub (legacy) but only with ext3 or FAT so I beter try to change one thing instead of mixing all.
[10:51] <E3D3> Thank you very much for making me wiser. I hope it will stay ;-)
[10:57] <E3D3> Last question (for today I hope): I prefer an OLD Gnome like on my Ubuntu Alternate. Instead of the new Ubuntu do I want to download the latest version with a normal Gnome. Is than 10.04 LTS Lucid the best choice to install ?
[18:21] <jayhalll> I think I am missing something obvious here, but I cannot see it for the life of me.  I am running Ubuntu 11.04 Workstation.  It is functioning as a route/firewall for my home network.  I also use it occasionally as a workstation when no one is home.  Today I decided to connect it to the VPN at my office.  Made the connection without any problems.  My laptop is able to use the connection without any problem.  However, I cannot 
[18:29] <holstein> jayhalll: ?
[18:31] <jayhalll> to: holstein Yes.
[18:33] <holstein> i was just making sure you knew that your message was cut off
[18:34] <jayhalll> No I didn't.  Where was it cut off?
[18:34] <holstein> "however i cannot..."
[18:34] <holstein> pretty much the important part
[18:34] <jayhalll> However, I cannot access the remote network from the Ubuntu Workstation.  I am using pppd to connect and the VPN is a PPTP VPN.  Any suggestions?
[18:36] <holstein> jayhalll: so, you have a VPN server setup at work
[18:36] <holstein> you can connect to it with a laptop, and not a desktop?
[18:36] <holstein> both running ubuntu?
[18:37] <jayhalll> Yes, a VPN is setup at work.  If I remember correctly it is running on FreeBSD 8.2 and is running mpd4 for the pptp server.
[18:38] <holstein> what version of ubuntu?
[18:38] <jayhalll> My laptop is OS X 10.5.8.  It just seems weird that one will pass through and the other will not.
[18:38] <holstein> versions*
[18:38] <jayhalll> Ubuntu 11.04.
[18:38] <holstein> ?
[18:38] <holstein> the laptop is *not* ubuntu?
[18:38] <jayhalll> Correct, it is not.
[18:38] <holstein> so, the only linux machine you have trying to connect in doesnt connect
[18:39] <holstein> im not sure how that config looks, but you might want to try forcing an IP that the remote network would be happy with
[18:39] <holstein> could just not be getting an ip over there
[18:39] <jayhalll> Yes, the connection is established and I receive the correct IP address.  I cannot get traffic to flow over the VPN tunnel to the remote end.  It might be an iptables problem.
[18:40] <holstein> could be FW
[18:40] <holstein> im not "in the know" enough to say unfortunately
[18:40] <holstein> but, i would assuming its config, and just start at the bottom, and build up
[18:41] <holstein> if the box is connecting, the hardware should be fine, and the tunnel is obviously possible
[18:42] <jayhalll> Thanks.  I will take another look at everything and see what I can find.
[18:42] <holstein> have you read the wiki?
[18:43] <holstein> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN
[18:43] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient
[18:43] <holstein> i have read there, but i havent had a need to implement it yet
[18:47] <jayhalll> I followed the instructions in the second link you sent.  I used the manual setup section since I could not get network manager to work.
[22:38] <ScottSanbar> tenach: Well, we have some stuff in common.  I have played with Java and C# (more C# than Java) and want to learn Python.   I have looked a little at PHP because of WordPress, and have some shell scripting experience as well in the past.