[07:58] <kim0> Morning everyone
[07:59] <czajkowski> kim0: aloha
[07:59] <kim0> czajkowski: hey there :)
[07:59] <kim0> where are the boys .. things are quite today
[08:00] <czajkowski> aye very quiet
[08:02]  * nigelb waves weakly
[08:02] <nigelb> Neck pain killing my monday :(
[11:59] <mhall119> sounds like nigelb had a wild weekend
[11:59] <mhall119> morning everyone
[12:01] <nigelb> mhall119: :D
[12:31] <kim0> akgraner: where did you mirror that post btw .. I'd like to keep an eye there as well
[12:31] <akgraner> google +
[12:32] <kim0> got it
[12:32] <akgraner> cool - just thought I'd let ya know - I hope my reply wasn't rude to the person who asked the question...but didn't want other questions getting posted there without you all knowing
[12:34] <mhall119> akgraner, rude?  I can't even imagine.
[12:34] <kim0> It's a pity when I post the article on FB .. people talk there, on G+ the same ..etc
[12:34] <kim0> there needs to be an aggregated grand central of comments or somthn
[12:34] <mhall119> disqus
[12:34] <AlanBell> monopolies are so convenient!
[12:34] <mhall119> but I hear it's not so great
[12:34] <akgraner> yep - I wanted to say - "um did you read the article  - post questions and comments there"
[12:35] <kim0> yeah except you're not allowed to use your "comments" once you export them
[12:35] <akgraner> mhall119, I'm working on being more assertive and concise...sometimes that comes across as rude when I don't mean too...
[12:36] <AlanBell> funnily enough a comment system build on desktopcouch/U1 hosted couch would work rather well
[12:36] <mhall119> akgraner: only online, where your accent doesn't work it's magical charm
[12:36] <mhall119> we need <southern></southern> tags
[12:36] <akgraner> mhall119, I had some feedback that I was too nice and didn't stand up for myself like I should  - so I'm working on that....  aww thanks :-)
[12:37]  * mhall119 subscribes to the Winston Churchill philosophy of assertiveness
[12:38] <akgraner> what's that speak softly and carry a big stick kinda style
[12:38] <mhall119> yup
[12:38] <akgraner> :-)
[12:39] <akgraner> mhall119, you've meet me  - um whispering/speaking softly and I do not go together...plus that would give pgraner an excuse for not hearing me around the house.
[12:40] <Pendulum> mhall119: I thought that predated Churchill (I'm thinking it was Teddy Roosevelt)
[12:41] <mhall119> akgraner: he's a man, he doesn't need an excuse ;)
[12:41] <akgraner> hahaha
[12:41] <mhall119> Pendulum: I think it's one of those contested quotes, but generally attributed to Churchill
[12:42] <Pendulum> mhall119: weird, I've never heard Churchill with it before
[12:42] <akgraner> mhall119,  - oops I wasn't supposed to laugh at that was I...inside voice reminder :-)
[13:33] <jcastro> dpm: kim0: do you guys know eric's irc nick?
[13:34] <kim0> hmm
[13:34] <kim0> if it wasn't in jono's email then nope
[13:35] <dpm> jcastro, no, he might still be setting it up. I remember jono asked him, but he's not answered the e-mail yet
[13:35] <jcastro> heh, no idea what time zone he's in either.
[13:35] <jcastro> I sent him my phone # just now
[13:36] <dpm> jcastro, he might be up already, jono was saying that he (jono) would usually be online later than eric
[13:39] <jcastro> ara: heya
[13:39] <ara> jcastro, hello!
[13:39] <jcastro> ara: I need to move your plenary to tuesday
[13:39] <ara> jcastro, was not already scheduled to be on Tuesday?
[13:39] <jcastro> sorry
[13:39] <jcastro> I meant away from tuesday
[13:39] <jcastro> and on wednesday
[13:39] <jcastro> sorry I was backwards
[13:40] <jcastro> I put steve george on wednesday but he leaves after EOD on tuesday so I have to move him there
[13:41] <ara> jcastro, OK, sure
[13:41] <jcastro> ara: actually, Thursday will be your day, sorry!
[13:41] <ara> jcastro, you need some sleep :D
[13:42] <jcastro> I am well restedt
[13:42] <jcastro> I would be this dumb with more sleep
[13:42] <ara> hehehe
[13:42] <ara> OK, thursday it is then, no worries
[13:42] <jcastro> steve says he'd be willing to buy you a drink in exchange for switching
[13:43] <jcastro> high five!
[13:46] <jcastro> mhall119: so hey do you think these latest tweaks outta do it?
[13:47] <mhall119> jcastro: the latest tweaks will make it faster and less resource hungry per request
[13:47] <mhall119> whether or not that'll fix out issues I can't say, because we still don't know what exacly our issues are
[13:49] <jcastro> k
[13:49] <jcastro> hey
[13:49] <jcastro> I should file a bug about pagination
[13:49] <jcastro> is that the right word?
[13:49] <jcastro> I just remembered
[13:50] <jcastro> Daviey: ping
[14:39]  * akgraner guess erward is the new addition to the community team...if so WELCOME and CONGRATULATIONS....
[14:39] <akgraner> s/guess/guesses
[14:49] <jcastro> \o/
[14:51] <jcastro> kim0: hah
[14:51] <jcastro> the q+a turned awesome
[14:51] <jcastro> "I believe MPD is widely used music player. It would be great if ubuntu repository package was cofigured properly to play on pulseaudio. Or is there some good guide to do that?"
[14:51] <kim0> jcastro: server focused indeed :)
[14:51] <kim0> music servers are still servers eh :)
[14:51] <jcastro> aha!
[14:52] <jcastro> this would be a good time to show that the comments need threading
[14:52] <kim0> erward: woohoo o/ welcome aboard man
[14:52] <kim0> jcastro: I know it does yes .. trying to get that rolling .. The awesome daker is helping with that
[14:53] <jcastro> ha rock
[14:53] <jcastro> ask me anything about servers! Hi yes, can you help me with my wireless on my laptop?
[14:53] <kim0> :)
[14:58] <kim0> jcastro: did you see this article where the guy talks about the escape angle from unity icons vs osx .. quite detailed!
[14:58] <kim0> hope someone is looking at that
[14:58] <jcastro> yeah I left a response
[14:58] <jcastro> since apparently he didn't update
[14:58] <jcastro> so his firefox was all old
[14:59] <jcastro> though in 11.10 it's much better since there's an update thing in the menu
[14:59] <jono> erward, welcome!
[14:59] <jcastro> kim0: also it wasn't obvious to me how crowded and mushed our menus were until he pointed it out
[14:59] <jcastro> now it bothers me, heh
[14:59] <kim0> jcastro: yeah hehe :)
[14:59] <kim0> jcastro: and hey 11.10 is not out yet .. so ..
[14:59] <jono> kim0, all set?
[15:00] <kim0> yep
[15:00] <jono> kim0, one sec, setting up the hangout
[15:02] <jono> kim0, invite sent
[15:31] <jono> dpm, all set?
[15:31] <dpm> jono, all set!
[15:33] <dpm> hi erward, welcome to the team! :-)
[15:35] <jono> dpm, invite sent
[15:39] <dpm> jono, sound sorted, can you re-send me the invite?
[15:39] <jono> sent
[15:41] <jono> dpm, that was weird
[15:41] <jono> invite resent
[15:47] <dpm> jono, sorry, it seems switching my gmail account closed the connection :(
[15:48] <jono> damn Google
[15:49] <jono> dpm invite sent
[16:36] <czajkowski> aloha
[16:51] <jcastro> man
[16:51] <jcastro> this countdown guy's post on g+ is awesome
[16:52] <nigelb> jcastro: link?
[16:53] <jcastro> bah closed it
[16:53] <jono> erward, you there?
[16:53] <jcastro> one sec
[16:55] <jono> jcastro, can we have a quick call while I drive into SF?
[16:55] <jono> jcastro, in about 15m?
[16:55] <jcastro> fo sho
[16:55] <jono> cheers, pal
[16:56] <jcastro> nigelb: https://plus.google.com/112648813199640203443/posts/F87YBuPd5s8
[16:56] <jcastro> 2nd to the last comment
[16:59] <nigelb> haha
[16:59] <jcastro> that will teach that guy to try to help!
[17:01] <Daviey> jcastro: hola
[17:01] <jcastro> hey are you in boston?
[17:01] <Daviey> yes
[17:01] <jcastro> k, I was just wondering
[17:01] <jcastro> how's it looking?
[17:02] <Daviey> jcastro: pretty good
[17:02] <Daviey> T he net connection at ODS is less than adequate.
[17:03] <jcastro> ah, our demo doesn't need the net so we should be good
[17:03] <jcastro> Daviey: I will see you on wednesday!
[17:05] <erward> jono: yes, I'm here
[17:05] <Daviey> jcastro: cool
[17:07] <jono> erward, welcome!
[17:07] <erward> thanks
[17:07] <jono> erward, can you msg me your phone number?
[17:07] <jono> I will give you a quick call while I am heading out
[17:07] <Pendulum> Daviey: you're in Boston? You didn't tell me you were coming a drivable distance from me :(
[17:52] <czajkowski> Daviey: bring me back taffey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:10] <kim0> is it really not possible to drag some files, alt+tab and drop them on some other window
[18:19] <nigelb> kim0: possible in metacity
[18:20] <nigelb> ( I think )
[18:20] <kim0> nigelb: I'm actually on u-2d .. which is metacity afaik
[18:20] <kim0> not working still
[18:20] <kim0> alt+tab useless while dragging
[18:23] <pleia2> kim0: if you have a moment - I'm doing a presentation on 11.10 next week and I was hoping you could point me to a document which outlines the huge amount of cloud-based stuff that is new/improved in 11.10, any suggestions? (otherwise I'll will poke around beta release notes and the cloud blog)
[18:24] <kim0> pleia2: sure thingy
[18:25] <kim0> pleia2: pm
[18:25] <pleia2> kim0: sure, thanks
[18:34] <jcastro> mhall119: james_w: hey so linaro wants to get the ball rolling on scheduling, is there anything stopping us from turning on the blueprint importer death-o-tron?
[18:34] <james_w> jcastro, that's already on
[18:34] <james_w> the autoscheduler currently isn't on though
[18:35] <jcastro> I think that's what they want on
[18:35] <jcastro> that's what bacon told me krafty told him
[18:35] <james_w> ace
[18:35] <james_w> I'll do that now
[18:36] <jcastro> that's just an hourly cron right?
[18:36] <jussi> james_w: did you see my ping from the other day?
[18:36] <james_w> jussi, nope
[18:36] <james_w> jcastro, every 15 minutes I think, but yeah
[18:37] <james_w> jcastro, it's turned on, running at :20 and :50
[18:37] <jcastro> rock
[18:37] <jussi> james_w: http://paste.ubuntu.com/701867/
[18:38] <jcastro> james_w: will it run in 12 minutes or does it start now?
[18:38] <james_w> jcastro, in 12 minutes
[18:38] <jcastro> rock
[18:38] <james_w> now you can tell Bacon to tell krafty to tell whoever :-)
[18:38] <james_w> jussi, sounds ok to me
[18:38] <jussi> chinese whispers!!!
[18:39] <james_w> I don't think we are using those names anywhere
[18:39] <jussi> james_w: ok, thanks
[18:39] <james_w> I do fear what renaming will do though
[18:39] <james_w> should work fine, but it may duplicate them :-)
[18:41] <jussi> james_w: yeah, someone didnt check and decided to change them without telling other people...
[18:41]  * jussi points to #canonical-sysadmin
[18:51] <popey> jcastro: that google+ thread is the single most depressing thing I've seen in ages.
[18:51] <jcastro> well
[18:51] <jcastro> that guy's page is on engadget.com right now
[18:52] <jcastro> so really, haters be hatin'
[18:53] <jcastro> popey: getting dogpiled by the haters = signs that your work is working.
[18:57] <czajkowski> for me I see canonical as community I'm tired of going to events and being asked am I canonical or community when in most cases we all work on Ubuntu
[18:57] <czajkowski> so I dont like the differencation of Canonical Or Community, they are the same
[18:59] <popey> haha jcastro
[18:59] <popey> jcastro: also http://www.thisisntthecountdown.com/
[18:59] <jcastro> hahahahaha
[18:59] <jcastro> awesome
[18:59] <jcastro> czajkowski: yeah, people treat you different
[18:59] <jcastro> like I went to this lug meeting
[18:59] <jcastro> and I purposely didn't say what I do
[18:59] <popey> some of us decoded it a while ago :D
[18:59] <jcastro> "I work on ubuntu"
[19:00] <jcastro> and then people were all like "OMG MINT"
[19:00] <jcastro> then at the end one of them asked me who I work for and I was like "Canonical."
[19:00] <jcastro> then all of a sudden it's like "omg welcome to our group!"
[19:00] <popey> ☺
[19:00] <czajkowski> jcastro: is how I see it http://www.lczajkowski.com/2011/09/24/why-i-love-to-meet-more-ubuntu-people/
[19:02] <jcastro> I think it was that texas guy
[19:02] <jcastro> who writes all those extremist posts about linux
[19:02] <AlanBell> need more loco team related marketing getting into Canonical
[19:02] <jcastro> was flaming ubuntu a bunch
[19:02] <jcastro> and then when he learned robbie works for canonical all of  a sudden he wants a  bunch of money for his project, haha
[19:04] <AlanBell> http://thisisthefinalcountdown.com/
[19:04] <jcastro> OMG YES
[19:05] <pleia2> lol
[19:05] <czajkowski> LOL
[19:05] <czajkowski> ahh I knew there was a reason I blocked fab on G+ he's noisey
[19:05] <czajkowski> and another reason why i don't use identi.ca any more
[19:06] <jcastro> czajkowski: exactly, I was just telling popey last week
[19:06] <jcastro> the best way to avoid trolling is to not use Free Software services
[19:06] <jcastro> sad really...
[19:06] <jcastro> wait
[19:06] <jcastro> if you block someone
[19:07] <jcastro> does it stop them from commenting on your posts?
[19:07] <AlanBell> I think it does, yes
[19:07] <jcastro> popey: aha! That's the part I was missing
[19:08] <jcastro> hmm, it's not obvious to me how to block someone
[19:08] <AlanBell> as far as I know identi.ca and diaspora don't have like/+1/dent/hug type buttons available to use on websites
[19:09] <AlanBell> there really should be a hug button on some service :)
[19:11] <jcastro> oh, looks like you need to follow a person to block them?
[19:16] <popey> I find the "I don't care" bit irritating
[19:17] <jcastro> where?
[19:17] <popey> in fabs threads
[19:17] <popey> he generally gets corrected, told how to fix the thing he rants about then ends with "I don't care"
[19:17] <jcastro> oh
[19:17] <popey> IMO if you dont care, STFU
[19:17] <jcastro> heh
[19:19] <popey> btw
[19:19] <popey> I have re-heated ribs
[19:19] <popey> I win
[19:34] <mhall119> jussi: dashes is room names breaks irc?
[19:36] <Pici> no?
[20:28] <jcastro> AlanBell: hah
[20:29] <jcastro> that dude is getting more press with his countdown than like the rest of us put together, lol
[20:29] <AlanBell> and it appears there is more stuff to come
[20:30] <AlanBell> because it *isn't* counting down to the release
[20:30] <AlanBell> mhall119: cracked the code yet?
[20:30] <jcastro> any idea what it's counting down to?
[20:31] <AlanBell> <body class="NzcgNmYgNzIgNmMgNjQgMjAgNzMgNzAgNjEgNjMgNjUgMjAgNjEgNjcgNjUgNmUgNjMgNzkgMjAgNmYgNzIgNjc">  <- secret message
[20:31] <popey> i believe its counting down to the start of the 'game'
[20:34] <jcastro> http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/240999/excited_for_ubuntu_linux_1110_the_official_countdown_has_begun.html
[20:34] <jcastro> hah
[20:34] <jcastro> "official countdown"
[20:34] <AlanBell> it certainly isn't!
[20:34] <AlanBell> however there *is* someone at canonical who is in on the joke to some extent
[20:35] <jcastro> I'm loving the rumors
[20:36] <AlanBell> jono may have been a little over categorical about canonical having nothing to do with it
[20:38] <popey> blog it :D
[20:39] <popey> correct the people
[20:39] <popey> do an xkcd 386
[20:44] <mhall119> AlanBell: no, work got in the way
[21:14] <jono> erward, I think it dropped
[21:14] <jono> will kick off another hangout
[22:25] <akgraner> jcastro will UDS be like last year as far as plenaries go - ie Linaro mixed with Ubuntu and stuff...
[22:27] <akgraner> working on film stuff...interviews etc...
[22:28] <akgraner> and will it be the same film crew we've been using in the past - or are you not the person to ask atm?