[00:58] morning all [00:59] any emergencies ? [01:14] smspillaz: I saw some compiz crashers over the weekend...not sure of the bug #s. let me see if I can find them. [01:14] smspillaz: not sure if compiz or nux [01:15] I fixed most of the ones I could find, so we should have distro patches ready to do for that [01:16] smspillaz: hmm...seems mine didn't get filed...I'm going to pastbin my crash file to see if you knew about it [01:16] kk [01:16] smspillaz: also still getting a ccsm crash every time I open that app.. [01:16] I wonder if we've got the latest compizconfig-python [01:17] smspillaz: ccsm crasher http://paste.ubuntu.com/701343/ [01:17] smspillaz: compiz is takign some time to pastebin...big crash file ;) [01:18] heh [01:18] yeah, so I've fixed that upstream [01:18] http://git.compiz.org/compiz/compizconfig/compizconfig-python/commit/?id=7c28ad895a34744d3c238b9931027f6ff2510b11 [01:18] I wonder if it ever got merged downstream [01:19] smspillaz: compiz crasher http://paste.ubuntu.com/701345/ [01:19] jasoncwarner_: did you paste the .crash ? [01:20] smspillaz: I did, the last link... [01:20] ah [01:20] smspillaz: not coming up? [01:20] you'll probably just want to find the backtrace section [01:20] and paste that in future ;-) [01:20] yeah, that's nux [01:21] smspillaz: is it known already? and fixed/fixable? :) [01:21] smspillaz: are there other crashers out there that you are aware of? [01:21] seen that a few times myself though I'm in lapcooke^Wnouveau, so I thought that maybe it was the driver being stupid (since fglrx was crashing in the same function due to advertising wrong opengl support) [01:21] but I'll pass that on to jay [01:22] jasoncwarner_: not that I'm aware of [01:22] smspillaz: ok [01:22] smspillaz: I noticed something [01:22] CTRL+ALT+SHIFT and arrow to move a window to another workspace? [01:22] you know of which I speak? [01:24] in one of the latest updates of compiz this went from being a "smooth" process, to the window you are moving jerking around...feels a bit woobly or herky-jerky [01:25] smspillaz: ^^ [01:28] yeah, it's not fixable unfortunately [01:29] I basically had to make it that way in order to fix a stacking bug [01:29] next cycle it will be, but I need to break some APIs [01:30] basically, that happens if the window tries to resize itself while it is changing viewports, in that case we force asynchronous movement, which is dependent on how fast your server is [01:30] smspillaz: is there a bug you are tracking for that already? [01:30] probably not, but it's one of the first things I'm going to get on to wwhen I can start breaking the API again [01:31] oddly enough, it's quite smooth here, so maybe you're missing something that I have [01:31] *shrug* [01:33] (using synchronous movement while a winow is being resized server side is dangerous and can cause undefined behaviour / window stacking problems [05:51] pitti, jasoncwarner_, what's the word on the street? [05:51] release looking good? [05:52] rickspencer3: pitti likely won't be online today. German something or other. Unification day, maybe? [05:52] jasoncwarner_, sounds nice :) [05:52] rickspencer3: I've been testing it all weekend and feeling pretty solid to me. reported a nux / compiz crasher to smspillaz (who is working with jay to fix it). [05:53] I wonder if it's a French holiday? [05:53] but that was the only thing for me. [05:53] jasoncwarner_, yeah, I hit that crasher yesterday [05:53] jasoncwarner_, an Gwibber is not working well for me [05:53] rickspencer3: oh? what is going on with gwibber? [05:53] jasoncwarner_, let me find my bug [05:54] bug #864727 [05:54] Launchpad bug 864727 in gwibber "Gwibber failing to start, or starting very very slowly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/864727 [05:55] There's also bug #863303 which I've hit a couple of times today, but that's apparently fixed in trunk. [05:55] Launchpad bug 863303 in nux "compiz assert failure: *** glibc detected *** compiz: free(): corrupted unsorted chunks: 0x0000000004a1d390 ***" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/863303 [05:55] yuck, neither of those look like fun. [05:56] RAOF, that was the bug I was getting [05:56] And when didrocks gets in, I'll ping him about it; the unity/compiz release process is full of special-cases only he knows about. [05:56] is there *another* compiz/nux crasher? [05:57] rickspencer3: Not that I've hit recently. [05:57] rickspencer3: that is the one I was getting as well. [05:57] phew [05:57] the Gwibber one is a bit more minor, I think [05:57] jasoncwarner_, the other one is that one where certain windows don't get decorated [05:58] bug #861143 [05:58] Launchpad bug 861143 in unity "unity 3d firefox window borders disappear" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/861143 [06:00] rickspencer3: that is still happening for you? can you get it pretty consistently? [06:00] jasoncwarner_, nah, it never really happened to me [06:00] maybe just with gwibber last night [06:03] jasoncwarner_ i have fixed that [06:04] smspillaz: the nux crasher? [06:04] no. the firefox issue [06:12] smspillaz: should maximized windows show a title bar when viewed in spread mode (or whatever you call it)? [06:13] like when I have 2 terminals open, one maximized and one windowed and I click the terminal icon in the launcher [06:21] good morning [06:22] hey didrocks [06:22] hey jasoncwarner_, how was your week-end? [06:22] didrocks: pretty good, thanks! you? [06:23] jasoncwarner_: was nice, thanks :) [06:23] how was your system? stable all weekedend ? ;) [06:23] well, I have check_gl_texture_size crashing, but apart from that, it's ok. you? [06:24] * didrocks makes dist-upgrades of the week-end there [06:24] didrocks: oh? RAOF , see what didrocks just said? [06:24] didrocks: Oh, hey? What's happening there? [06:24] didrocks: some of us got a nux crasher as well. https://launchpad.net/bugs/863303 [06:24] Launchpad bug 863303 in nux "compiz assert failure: *** glibc detected *** compiz: free(): corrupted unsorted chunks: 0x0000000004a1d390 ***" [High,Confirmed] [06:25] RAOF: not sure, the crash is pretty random. I'm upgrading to let apport report a crash if I still get it [06:25] jasoncwarner_: having a look [06:25] didrocks: And is it affecting your session noticabley? [06:26] RAOF: yeah, it can prevent compiz starting [06:26] I don't know how that could happen :) [06:27] jasoncwarner_: ok, it's fixed in trunk apparently, will look to backport some commit today for tomorrow [06:27] RAOF: well, maybe just a coincidence :) [06:28] You're now the second person to complain of this; the other is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/824099/comments/19 [06:28] Launchpad bug 824099 in gnome-desktop3 "Max GL texture size can break multi-head" [Undecided,Confirmed] [06:29] RAOF: the description is totally what I experience [06:29] Although *they* seem to have fixed things with a package upgrade; anything which kills GL can cause check_gl_texture_size to crash, and will likely also take down other GL clients, like Compiz. [06:30] didrocks: could you get the problem on a consistent basis? after you upgrade, would you notice if the problem goes away? [06:31] jasoncwarner_: it happened 3 times on 10 reboots, so yeah, will try that once the upgrade is over there [06:34] didrocks: ok... [06:34] * jasoncwarner_ waits to see! [06:37] * RAOF also waits. [06:38] RAOF: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz-plugins-main/+bug/859632/comments/4 FYI [06:38] Launchpad bug 859632 in compiz-plugins-main "package compiz-plugins-main-default 1:0.9.5.94 bzr20110919-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/compiz/grid.xml', which is also in package compiz-plugins 1:0.9.4 bzr20110606-0ubuntu1~natty2" [High,Fix released] [06:38] (still upgrading) [06:40] didrocks: Ta. [06:41] Oh, hah! Upgrades from natty-proposed. [06:41] Slash natty-updates. [06:44] RAOF: got the same issue with compiz :p [06:47] didrocks, salut. I get bug 863717 on 2 different systems. is it a known issue ? [06:47] Launchpad bug 863717 in oneconf "oneconf-service crashed with HTTPError in __negotiatehttp(): (403, 'Forbidden')" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/863717 [06:51] jibel: salut, oh no, let me have a look [06:52] jibel: do you have a proxy? [06:52] didrocks, yes [06:52] and is it the same when you try to make a review [06:52] jibel: it's piston, mvo did some changes last week for proxy support [06:52] didrocks, a review ? I get it when I update the package cache. [06:52] jibel: I bet you have the same crash when you do a review in software-center [06:53] (the same piston component is used) [06:54] didrocks, I can't try, s-c crashed on launch :( [06:54] jibel: argh, anyway, thanks! I'll let mvo knows about piston [06:55] didrocks, mvo bug 865076 [06:55] Launchpad bug 865076 in software-center "software-center crashed with TypeError: Couldn't find conversion for foreign struct 'cairo.Context'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/865076 [07:01] jibel: I'll let him know [07:01] * didrocks reboots now with the upgrade [07:07] hi @ all [07:12] RAOF: jasoncwarner_: after 7 log off and reboot, I can't reproduce it anymore, so seems good [07:12] jasoncwarner_: for the other crash, I'll try to gather something to upload for tomorrow morning. We can't just take trunk, there are already stuff that we can't ship in oneiric (design changes…) [07:24] didrocks: ok, the nux crasher is the other one. Hope that gets fixed right quick! [07:25] jasoncwarner_: the one you pointed me this morning, isn't it? if it's the case, I found the commit in trunk, but I want to see with njpatel to make a big upload with only crasher fixes [07:50] aloha [07:59] hey [08:01] salut seb128 [08:01] lut didrocks, ca va ? passé un bon w.e? [08:01] seb128: ça va, et toi? [08:02] ça va bien! ;-) [08:06] didrocks: cant find that bug I logged the other day but still happening the alt tabbing switcher display freezes. Also any idea why the default to alt tabbing is SOOO_SLOW! [08:06] czajkowski: nvidia card? [08:06] nope [08:06] a lot of windows opened? [08:07] nope and in 2D as it is painful in 3d [08:07] just slow or the whole display freezes? [08:07] oh [08:07] slow as feck [08:07] morning [08:07] 2d has no change for alt + tab [08:07] it's still the metacity one, without any preview [08:07] didrocks: ah ok [08:08] so, I would tell something else is bad on your setup then [08:08] didrocks: grand, there just seems to be too slow a delay between alt to the next applciation [08:08] czajkowski: hum? please define "slow" then :) [08:08] didrocks: 5 seconds before I can get to another aplication [08:09] czajkowski: yeah, something bad is happening then [08:09] czajkowski: and same thing in -2d? [08:09] yes [08:10] no clue at all then, it's neither compiz/metacity, maybe just a slow display in general, [08:10] ? [08:11] wasn't before in natty. [08:11] shall go fiddle around with settings and see if it helps [08:11] czajkowski: hum, as you can get that across compiz and metacity, I really have no idea, nothing else is slow in your display? [08:11] nope nothing [08:12] waow, weird, RAOF any idea? ^ [08:13] didrocks: aye indeed, not as weird as updating on friday, finding my desktop image gone, and my default settings for watching movies gone from vlc. I think my laptop likes to drive me bonkers [08:13] yeah :-) after today's update, is it better for those issues? [08:13] hey rodrigo_ [08:14] hi seb128 [08:14] rodrigo_, how are you? [08:14] seb128, fine and you? [08:14] hey rodrigo_ [08:14] hi didrocks [08:14] rodrigo_, I'm good thanks ;-) [08:14] rodrigo_, you didn't upload g-s-d on friday? :-( [08:14] seb128, no, dont have the fix for bug 863038 yet [08:14] Launchpad bug 863038 in gnome-settings-daemon "If turnoff the screen setting set to 'never' screen turns off instantly" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/863038 [08:15] I've been having a look this weekend also, so hopefully will have it fixed today [08:15] rodrigo_, we should have done an upload for the "suspend on idle default value" [08:15] seb128, oh [08:15] rodrigo_, we got some rc bugs on the w.e and people really freak out about it [08:15] should I do an upload now? [08:16] rodrigo_, it also seems that setting the key is not enough, some boxes still suspend but that's hard to say without landing the default value change and see if issues remain [08:16] is that bug 864479 ? [08:16] Launchpad bug 864479 in gnome-control-center "System goes to hibernate or suspend even when set to "Don't suspend"" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/864479 [08:16] rodrigo_, yes please, we already lost 2 days of testing [08:16] ok [08:16] Laney, that bug is a duplicate of bug #860485 but yes [08:16] Launchpad bug 860485 in gnome-settings-daemon "bad default setting: suspend after 30min when plugged in" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/860485 [08:17] hm? that bug seems to be about the default [08:17] but the one I linked is about not respecting the setting even when manually set [08:17] Laney, well it started about the default and then we noticed that it was still buggy even with the correct value [08:18] Laney, so the bug evolved a bit, we should update the title ... or use the other one [08:18] either way, it doesn't matter much which one of the 2 we use, "known issue" [08:18] right [08:18] Laney, did you set the setting with the ui or with gsettings,dconf-editor? [08:18] dup and fix the title then [08:18] ui [08:19] Laney, can you check the value of your keys? [08:19] sorry I can't, I'm away from the laptop [08:19] cjwatson was having the issue though: ^^^ [08:19] bah unity focus... [08:19] Laney, gsettings get org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power sleep-inactive-ac-timeout [08:20] anybody know what this is referring to? http://www.thisisthecountdown.com/ [08:20] rickspencer3, Oneiric? ;-) [08:20] that was my guess as well… [08:20] but, er, it's set for Tuesday next week? [08:21] seems wrong indeed [08:22] how about this one? http://thisisntthecountdown.com/ [08:23] dang [08:24] Laney: my instinct on the second one was that it was a test site for the other one, & I'm guessing marketers can't count [08:24] haha [08:24] I thought it was some kind of troll / game [08:24] every time you refresh it you get a different time [08:25] eet eez a mystery [08:26] nah, the mystery I'm beginning to worry about is what happened to the P announcement [08:27] maybe we're going to get a jobsian launch announcement [08:29] hmm the countdown is now set to 0 [08:33] giggles at http://thisisthefinalcountdown.com/ [08:36] seb128: alt + key for gtk3 app is not fixed yet, isn't it? [08:36] didrocks, no, ted hinted that it was not an easy issue and that he might need to take Cody out for lunch to discuss it ;-) [08:37] urgh ok :/ [08:37] didrocks, in fact he has been looking for it without much luck before this cycle [08:37] we need a gtk guy... [08:37] he thinks it's an issue in gtk or gtk which changed how it works [08:39] ok [08:50] I have 2 systems where Unity sometimes fails to start with "Compiz (opengl) - Fatal: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing" after a fresh installation. Is it known ? [08:52] jibel: there is a bug about it, I pinged smspillaz on Friday [08:54] didrocks, do you have a bug number ? [08:54] I can't find it [08:54] jibel: it was a local crash and I just pastebin a partial stack (was with a not packaged version, so couldn't get apport) [08:54] jibel: please report the crash I'll add it to the milestone [08:55] didrocks, bug 851345 [08:55] Launchpad bug 851345 in compiz "compiz crashes on i915 graphic module with GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/851345 [08:55] jibel: thanks [08:56] jibel: do you get that at every boot? [08:56] didrocks, no [08:56] ok thanks [08:56] maybe once every 4 or 5 boots [08:56] I wonder if that couldn't be a lightdm issue [08:57] jibel, could you check with other things than compiz [08:57] or glxinfo? [08:57] just to see if xorg has a correct init [08:57] i.e if the issue is lightdm,xorg or compiz [08:59] When I've asked people for details, I seem to recall that being due to not having permissions to access /dev/dri, so GL fails. [08:59] is there a key to press that prevents the sidebar from appearing? it's annoying when you need to work close to the border.. [09:00] ?LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo? is the magical incantation (once in the session) to work that out. [09:01] ah, best to have the launcher on all the time [09:01] That's what I do on my big monitor. [09:03] argh, I just lost the mouse, it becomes challenging to gather more information. [09:04] RAOF: yeah, this is "only" 24" but wide enough to have it always there [09:06] That's the size of my monitor; it's pretty much big enough. [09:06] :) [09:07] big enough for my table anyway :) [09:14] here is the problem I think: libGL error: failed to open drm device: Permission denied [09:14] Yup, there it is. [09:15] jibel: Is that while in your session? [09:15] RAOF, yes [09:15] Can you pastebin the output of ?ck-list-sessions?? [09:15] RAOF, hey [09:16] seb128: Ho! [09:16] RAOF, can you check bug #859836 and tell me from the xrandr log if that's an xorg, driver, etc issue? [09:16] Launchpad bug 859836 in gnome-control-center "Monitors are not identified in Oneiric with radeon driver" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/859836 [09:16] seb128: A fix for bug #865083 would be appropriate for upload now, right? Either that or a 0-day SRU, but we can't pre-test them, right? [09:16] Launchpad bug 865083 in xdiagnose "Breaks upgrades when natty-updates is enabled" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/865083 [09:18] seb128: They've got a broken install; they have neither ati nor fglrx loaded, so they're using fbdev which has no resolution-changing capabilities at all. [09:18] seb128: I'll follow up on that bug. [09:18] RAOF, upload now I would said, if r-t disagree they will not let it in and ask you to sru [09:18] RAOF, but piti said bug fixes are fine until tomorrow [09:18] RAOF, thanks [09:19] Np [09:20] RAOF, http://paste.ubuntu.com/701543/ [09:20] jibel: Just as I suspected, active = FALSE [09:20] I noticed that /home/ubuntu/.xsession-errors is owned by root. [09:21] jibel: Something's not setting up the ConsoleKit session properly; you're not marked as active, so you don't have permissions to the DRI device. [09:22] Ok, dinner time. [09:22] jibel, bug #863054 [09:22] Launchpad bug 863054 in lightdm "random login without common admin user permissions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/863054 [09:23] jibel, I think it's a lightdm issue [09:23] bug #863119 [09:23] Launchpad bug 863119 in lightdm "~/xsession-errors is owned by root" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/863119 [09:24] jibel, could you add your infos to #863119? [09:24] seb128, thanks, will do. it is annoying as it is a fresh installation. [09:25] seb128, #851345 is a duplicate ? [09:25] bug 851345 [09:25] Launchpad bug 851345 in compiz "compiz crashes on i915 graphic module with GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/851345 [09:25] jibel, well I'm not 100% sure but I would guess that lightdm is not setting up the session properly [09:25] RAOF, ^ can you make sure that robert_ancell is aware of that bug tomorrow? [09:26] RAOF, I've difficulties catching him up online, his IRC hours are not very european friendly [09:26] RAOF, enjoy your dinner ;-) [09:26] jibel, can you add comments in each bug to cross references them maybe and robert_ancell can decide on what to do tomorrow [09:30] RAOF, I would appreciate if you can look to bug #864505 as well [09:30] Launchpad bug 864505 in gnome-control-center "[Oneiric] Cannot setup dual monitor with AMD 5870" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/864505 [09:30] "The selected configuration for displays could not be applied" [09:30] "requested position/size for CRTC 148 is outside the allowed limit: position=(1680, 0), size=(1680, 1050), maximum=(1920, 1920)" [09:31] we got several bugs like that [09:31] those are driver limitations right? [09:34] rodrigo_, btw maybe you could check the upstream patch for bug #841280 then go back to the other things you are debugging? [09:34] Launchpad bug 841280 in gnome-control-center "gnome-control-center crashed with SIGSEGV in count_languages_and_territories()" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/841280 [09:35] rodrigo_, it seems that it should be easy to review that one and maybe get it in if it makes sense [09:35] then go back to the non trivial bugs ;-) [09:40] seb128, yes [09:41] rodrigo_, thanks! [09:41] i think i have a lead on that tomboy blocking shutdown bug btw [09:43] Laney: Is D-Bus# not delivering signals? [09:45] seb128: That guy has just broken his install in so many ways :) [09:45] RAOF, ;-) [09:46] RAOF, bug #856312 is similar, also a driver thing? [09:46] Launchpad bug 856312 in xorg-server "Cant set resolution with two monitors" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/856312 [09:47] RAOF, i.e https://launchpadlibrarian.net/81553241/Screenshot%20at%202011-09-22%2008%3A19%3A19.png [09:47] RAOF, not sure how the capplet could handle those better [09:47] It could say "Stop using nomodeset, you moron" [09:48] that's what it might be, yes. I'm going to instrument it to see. [09:48] I mean, that wouldn't be *helpful*, but it would point sufficiently technical users in the right direction :) [09:49] RAOF, ;-) [09:50] Oh, no? They're using fglrx? I thought that worked reasonably :) [09:51] Laney: Because at one point I was diving into why Do's Banshee plugin was blocking on load, and it looked like it was because Banshee.CollectionIndexer was never getting the "done" signal. But I ran out of gumption at that point. [09:52] I'll let you know what I find out. [10:04] Oh, speak of the devil! Good morning tseliot :) [10:04] RAOF: good morning to you. What's up? [10:05] tseliot: I'm confused by bug #856312. I didn't think fglrx had that sort of framebuffer restriction. [10:05] Launchpad bug 856312 in xorg-server "Cant set resolution with two monitors" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/856312 [10:06] tseliot: Specifically - it seems to be capping the Virtual size to a square based on the initial monitor configuration. Which is what the UMS radeon drivers did, but the Xorg.0.log shows fglrx apparently loading happily. [10:06] RAOF: it doesn't, as long as you use AMD's control panel ;) [10:06] tseliot: With the corollory that it *does* if you don't use AMD's control panel?! [10:07] RAOF: yes, I guess so [10:07] ? [10:08] Ok. I'll close out that bug then, I guess. [10:08] RAOF: I suspect it's a bug in their RandR implementation [10:08] That would seem likely, yes. [10:08] but you're really supposed to use their control panel, as with Nvidia [10:09] ? Is it wicked when you smile / even though you feel like crying ? [10:10] :) [10:11] tseliot, if they are supposed to do that maybe our control center should list the ati tool and not the GNOME one [10:12] seb128: I think we used to have a patch for the display app to tell users to launch either nvidia-settings or the AMD panel instead, when it detected one of these drivers [10:13] That might be something worth resurrecting. [10:13] well I think we dropped it because those drivers were supposed to understand xrandr nowadays [10:13] nvidia doesn't. [10:13] :-( [10:13] suckers! [10:13] seb128: Nvidia still doesn't and AMD's implementation has some limitations [10:13] :) [10:14] Although we could *technically* write a gnome-desktop backend which would talk NV-GLX; the code's already there in nvidia-settings. [10:14] RAOF: true, and I could also bug AMD about that bug [10:15] Yes, please! [10:15] ok, I will [10:16] I'll assign that bug to you so it shows up on your radar. [10:16] thanks [10:17] tseliot, RAOF: thanks [10:17] thanks for bringing this up [10:48] RAOF, tseliot: on bug #856312 the reported said he couldn't use the ati tools because it segfault on start iirc [10:48] Launchpad bug 856312 in fglrx-installer "Cant set resolution with two monitors" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/856312 [10:49] bug #647802 he pointed [10:49] he opened bug #862885 which got dupped [10:49] seb128: that would be a bug in the AMD control panel, which I can report too [10:50] tseliot, that bug collects duplicates it seems [10:50] tseliot, so yeah, would be nice to report it if you can ;-) thanks [10:51] seb128: a duplicate of a private bug?? [10:51] tseliot, the retracer dupped it [10:51] tseliot, do you have access to #647802 or should I subscribe you? [10:53] seb128: please subscribe me [10:56] tseliot, done [10:56] lunch, bbl [10:57] seb128: thanks [12:23] * rodrigo_ lunch [12:30] hey mterry, wb [12:30] mterry, back to work today? [12:30] seb128, yup! Which so far means reading emails [12:31] mterry, how was your week off? [12:32] seb128, good! Relaxing, just sat around in the sun and drank [12:32] mterry, sounds like my w.e ;-) [12:32] we have very nice autumn weather this year [12:32] it's rather summer weather in fact [12:33] seb128, nice, grab it while you can [12:34] indeed ;-) [12:34] pedro_, hola! [12:35] pedro_, how do I open a bug about your qa bugs pages? "Updated on: 2011-10-03 12:03:03.357854 ", I think the time is not exact enough [12:35] pedro_, we need better precision than the 1uS there [12:35] ;-) [12:38] mterry, if you get bored after catching up and want some bugs ping me ;-) or just grab those in the oneiric list, I'm adding an oneiric component to some I think are worth fixing still or sruing [12:38] seb128, ok, in pedro's list or the release team one? [12:39] mterry, is there a release team list? our bug tracking is confusing :-( [12:39] mterry, they should show up on pedro's oneiric section [12:39] not sure about r-t [12:39] seb128, not sure what it's called: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-mgr-o-tracking-bugs.html [12:39] I'm just doing "target to serie: oneiric" [12:39] oh, those are manually tagged by r-t yes [12:40] that's a good list to pick in as well ;-) [12:45] seb128, hey! , on which report page is that? [12:46] seb128, each report has a cronjob that might be why you're seeing different times there, some take more to run [12:46] like the assigned bugs one it takes almost 1 hour :-/ [12:46] pedro_, http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-desktop/oneiric.html [12:46] pedro_, I was rather joking about the "03.357854" seconds [12:46] haha [12:47] pedro_, we need to improve the accuracy ;-) [12:47] sorry i spend too much time with the French mafia, they like to be really 'on time' ;-) [12:47] hum, why is chrisccoulson online? [12:47] pedro_, lol [12:47] pedro_, it's sure it's not the spanish mafia that would be on time! [12:48] clicked on the wrong button ;) [12:48] seb128, amen to that, like always its rodrigo_'s fault [12:48] chrisccoulson, you said you wouldn't have internet access this week! [12:48] chrisccoulson, how are you? ;-) [12:48] seb128, i do. i didn't realize that our cottage would have free wifi [12:48] lol [12:49]