| c7p | yes i think | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| c7p | btw when you get the branch | 00:02 |
| c7p | the tex file that you ll be working on is under working-with-ubuntu folder (named "using-instant-messaging.tex") | 00:03 |
| tomswartz07 | ok. splendid! Ill pull the branch tonight and ill look over it. perhaps tomorrow ill start in on it? | 00:04 |
| c7p | it's up to you :) | 00:05 |
| c7p | also don't misunderstand us if we don't respond to pings, or there isn't anyone in channel talking | 00:06 |
| tomswartz07 | i understand- ive had my irc window open for 5 days now. haha | 00:07 |
| c7p | hehe we are alike | 00:10 |
| c7p | i g2g, good night | 00:12 |
| tomswartz07 | goodnight c7p | 00:14 |
| c7p | see you all | 00:15 |
| godbyk | See you later, c7p! | 00:15 |
| tomswartz07 | im having trouble making the pdf from source, and i dont quite understand why. | 00:36 |
| tomswartz07 | can anyone verify that the newest bzr sync can be built? | 00:37 |
| tomswartz07 | :~/Documents/ubuntu-manual$ make | 00:37 |
| tomswartz07 | basename: extra operand `frontmatter' | 00:37 |
| tomswartz07 | Try `basename --help' for more information. | 00:37 |
| tomswartz07 | bzr version-info --custom --template="\\\revinfo{{revno}}{{date}}" > revision.tex | 00:37 |
| tomswartz07 | xelatex --output-driver="xdvipdfmx -V 5" main | 00:37 |
| tomswartz07 | /bin/bash: xelatex: command not found | 00:37 |
| tomswartz07 | whoop- this uses xelatex? | 00:38 |
| godbyk | tomswartz07: Yeah, it requires xelatex. | 01:53 |
| godbyk | tomswartz07: You'll also want the latest upstream version instead of the Ubuntu packages. | 01:53 |
| godbyk | (The Ubuntu packages are woefully out of date and incomplete to boot.) | 01:53 |
| godbyk | tomswartz07: Installation instructions for the upstream TeX Live can be found here: http://ubuntu-manual.org/getinvolved/authors#install-texlive | 01:54 |
| tomswartz07 | splendid! thanks! Ill read up on it all | 01:56 |
| godbyk | tomswartz07: Let me know if you hit any snags. | 01:56 |
| godbyk | tomswartz07: One gotcha: Make sure that you have the TeX Live installer create the symlinks or you'll regret it. :-) | 01:56 |
| tomswartz07 | ok- i wont get to this till tomorrow, so ill def let you know | 02:00 |
| godbyk | tomswartz07: No problem. Thanks for your help! | 02:00 |
| tomswartz07 | sure! :) | 02:01 |
| nisshh | c7p, hey dude | 12:08 |
| c7p | hey nisshh, how are you ? | 12:09 |
| nisshh | im good | 12:10 |
| nisshh | and you? | 12:10 |
| c7p | fine :) | 12:14 |
| * c7p sorry for late response, i'm writing an e-mail | 12:14 | |
| nisshh | np | 12:15 |
| nisshh | just grabbing the code now | 12:15 |
| c7p | have you looked on what chapter/ section could you work on ? | 12:15 |
| c7p | ah ok | 12:15 |
| nisshh | well, you let me know what needs the most attention, ill be happy with that | 12:16 |
| nisshh | before i stopped working on the manual completely, i was managing the credits and glossary | 12:17 |
| nisshh | c7p, ^^^ | 12:18 |
| c7p | now i guess i manage credits as i assign the sections | 12:18 |
| nisshh | godbyk, long time no see :) | 12:18 |
| nisshh | c7p, yeah, thats cool | 12:18 |
| c7p | i guess you can work on glossary again | 12:18 |
| c7p | till now the chapter that i think needs an eye is troubleshooting | 12:18 |
| nisshh | i would rather the content itself got worked on tbh, atleast right now | 12:18 |
| nisshh | ok | 12:19 |
| c7p | if you want to update some sections of the chapter let me know | 12:19 |
| nisshh | ok | 12:20 |
| nisshh | can you give me a general idea of how far we are to a complete 11.10 manual? | 12:20 |
| nisshh | just so i know roughly how much editing is required | 12:20 |
| c7p | installation chapter is think is almost finished | 12:21 |
| c7p | and the half ubuntu desktop chapter | 12:21 |
| c7p | is finished | 12:21 |
| nisshh | ok | 12:22 |
| c7p | now that i check again the manual i think getting onlint sections needs rather an editor to make minor changes rather than an author | 12:22 |
| c7p | online section* | 12:22 |
| nisshh | yeah | 12:22 |
| c7p | would you like to handle this section ? | 12:23 |
| c7p | you may check it first of course | 12:23 |
| nisshh | tbh, im really happy to just hack away at all of it as an overall editor | 12:23 |
| nisshh | although i guess focus on one section would be better for now | 12:24 |
| nisshh | ill start with the getting online chapter | 12:24 |
| nisshh | then ill do troubleshooting | 12:24 |
| nisshh | c7p, since i work now i can mostly only work on this on the weekends though | 12:25 |
| c7p | splendid, let me know how the work goes | 12:25 |
| nisshh | since i work full time | 12:25 |
| nisshh | cool. | 12:25 |
| c7p | ok np | 12:26 |
| nisshh | although i have time for an hour or two a night usually | 12:26 |
| nisshh | Rick is the project leader now isnt he? | 12:26 |
| c7p | contribute whenever you feel better | 12:26 |
| nisshh | yeah, for sure | 12:27 |
| c7p | we dont have project leader, rick is the Editor in Chief | 12:27 |
| nisshh | ah ok | 12:27 |
| nisshh | is that intentional or just because you dont have one currently? | 12:27 |
| c7p | i don't know | 12:27 |
| nisshh | fair enough | 12:27 |
| nisshh | whats his nick? | 12:28 |
| c7p | we voted for Editor in Chief before a half year, and there wasn't a need for a leader then -i guess- | 12:28 |
| c7p | hm | 12:28 |
| c7p | rickfsb i think | 12:28 |
| nisshh | ok | 12:28 |
| nisshh | i might shoot him an email | 12:28 |
| nisshh | i really want to get this project moving fast again | 12:29 |
| nisshh | not that it hasnt been :) | 12:29 |
| c7p | i found Rick's nick is rickfosb | 12:29 |
| c7p | cool | 12:30 |
| nisshh | ok | 12:30 |
| c7p | i hope the section and not chapter assignations would help us to move fast | 12:31 |
| nisshh | yeah | 12:33 |
| nisshh | its certainly a good idea | 12:33 |
| nisshh | far out, id forgotten how darn big tex live is | 12:41 |
| c7p | hehe | 12:50 |
| godbyk | hey, nisshh! How's it going? | 18:54 |
| c7p | hello all | 21:04 |
| c7p | hey tomswartz07 | 22:05 |
| c7p | hey godbyk | 22:08 |
| godbyk | hey, c7p. | 22:27 |
| c7p | what's up ? | 22:27 |
| godbyk | not too much at the moment. seems like I'm getting a ton of email today. | 22:29 |
| godbyk | how's it going with managing all the job applicants? | 22:30 |
| c7p | very time consuming | 22:30 |
| c7p | i got to respond to many people :P | 22:30 |
| c7p | but it goes very good | 22:30 |
| c7p | UbuntuOne is nice as tool also | 22:31 |
| c7p | when an author makes changes to a document and he saves them, they are uploaded automatically on the cloud | 22:32 |
| c7p | and automatically they are downloaded to my local machine | 22:32 |
| c7p | also a message pops up so i'm also notified | 22:32 |
| godbyk | Excellent! | 22:36 |
| godbyk | Hopefully allowing authors this new workflow will make things easier for them. | 22:37 |
| c7p | yeah i hope so | 22:37 |
| c7p | we got a mail in spanish ! do you know spanish ? | 22:38 |
| c7p | it's on the mailing list | 22:38 |
| c7p | godbyk: ah i forgot to mention !!!! | 22:39 |
| c7p | we have to remove some sections from the jobs list | 22:39 |
| c7p | jobs page * | 22:39 |
| c7p | the only section with no author is micro blogging | 22:40 |
| godbyk | I just moderated the message and let it pass through to the mailing list. I don't know Spanish, but Google Translate said they were offering to help with the manual. I know we have a number of other Spanish-speaking folks on the mailing list, though, so hopefully they can jump in and help out. | 22:41 |
| godbyk | c7p: Should I remove them entirely or strike them out with a line (i.e., draw a line through them)? | 22:41 |
| godbyk | Which sections should I remove/leave on the jobs page? | 22:42 |
| c7p | i guess you could draw a line | 22:43 |
| c7p | microblogging only | 22:43 |
| godbyk | Okay. | 22:43 |
| c7p | actually and additional software | 22:43 |
| godbyk | 'kay | 22:43 |
| godbyk | c7p: http://ubuntu-manual.org/jobs I stuck out 'The Ubuntu Desktop'. Do you like that or would you prefer that I remove them completely? | 22:44 |
| c7p | i hm | 22:45 |
| c7p | better remove ? | 22:45 |
| c7p | btw what if an author quits ? | 22:45 |
| godbyk | It doesn't make too much difference to me. Whichever you think is less confusing. | 22:45 |
| c7p | shouldn't we have a list of available authors ? | 22:46 |
| c7p | better remove them | 22:46 |
| godbyk | Hopefully we will have a pool of people waiting to take their place. | 22:46 |
| godbyk | Okay, I'll remove them. | 22:46 |
| c7p | maybe you could write something about it on the jobs page | 22:46 |
| godbyk | c7p: like this? http://ubuntu-manual.org/jobs | 22:46 |
| c7p | cool | 22:47 |
| c7p | as easy as possible :D | 22:47 |
| godbyk | When you're emailing the people who are applying, perhaps you should ask if we can contact them to help fill in for an author that has to drop out. | 22:47 |
| godbyk | Then we can keep their name on a list and contact them if we need them to fill in. | 22:47 |
| c7p | sure | 22:48 |
| godbyk | We should probably also have a meeting sometime soon and establish our deadlines for the Oneiric manual. | 22:50 |
| c7p | what about arranging a meeting this weekend ? | 22:50 |
| c7p | the goal of it should be to answer the questions of new authors, editors | 22:51 |
| godbyk | We can try. I'll be at my parents' house this weekend (lots of birthdays to celebrate), but I can probably attend a meeting. | 22:51 |
| c7p | and also to set deadlines | 22:51 |
| godbyk | That's a good idea. | 22:51 |
| c7p | saturday or sunday, what fits you best ? | 22:52 |
| godbyk | Should we email Rick and have him set up a poll? | 22:52 |
| godbyk | Good question, let me check. | 22:52 |
| c7p | we can | 22:52 |
| godbyk | I think we'll be having a family dinner Saturday night, but I'm not sure. | 22:55 |
| c7p | so sunday is better ? | 22:56 |
| godbyk | Well, Sunday I may be driving back, so it's a bit of a toss-up. :-) | 22:59 |
| godbyk | We should schedule the meeting whenever it makes the most sense for everyone else to attend. | 22:59 |
| godbyk | I'll try to be there if I can, but my presence isn't really required. :) | 22:59 |
| c7p | :) ok | 23:00 |
| c7p | but new authors have to meet Kevin :D | 23:00 |
| c7p | nevermind let's hope we will get many people to attend it | 23:01 |
| c7p | with all these replies to the applicants i forgot to tell Rick about the new way of contribution :( | 23:01 |
| c7p | i hope he won't be angry on me | 23:02 |
| godbyk | c7p: Not a problem. I think we had discussed it at a meeting once upon a time. | 23:02 |
| c7p | ok i feel obliged to send him a mail, i'm composing it | 23:03 |
| c7p | ok mail sent to Rick | 23:17 |
| godbyk | 'kay. | 23:20 |
| c7p | i g2g goodnight | 23:25 |
| c7p | see you all | 23:25 |
| godbyk | G'night, c7p. | 23:26 |
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