[00:01] yes i think [00:02] btw when you get the branch [00:03] the tex file that you ll be working on is under working-with-ubuntu folder (named "using-instant-messaging.tex") [00:04] ok. splendid! Ill pull the branch tonight and ill look over it. perhaps tomorrow ill start in on it? [00:05] it's up to you :) [00:06] also don't misunderstand us if we don't respond to pings, or there isn't anyone in channel talking [00:07] i understand- ive had my irc window open for 5 days now. haha [00:10] hehe we are alike [00:12] i g2g, good night [00:14] goodnight c7p [00:15] see you all [00:15] See you later, c7p! [00:36] im having trouble making the pdf from source, and i dont quite understand why. [00:37] can anyone verify that the newest bzr sync can be built? [00:37] :~/Documents/ubuntu-manual$ make [00:37] basename: extra operand `frontmatter' [00:37] Try `basename --help' for more information. [00:37] bzr version-info --custom --template="\\\revinfo{{revno}}{{date}}" > revision.tex [00:37] xelatex --output-driver="xdvipdfmx -V 5" main [00:37] /bin/bash: xelatex: command not found [00:38] whoop- this uses xelatex? [01:53] tomswartz07: Yeah, it requires xelatex. [01:53] tomswartz07: You'll also want the latest upstream version instead of the Ubuntu packages. [01:53] (The Ubuntu packages are woefully out of date and incomplete to boot.) [01:54] tomswartz07: Installation instructions for the upstream TeX Live can be found here: http://ubuntu-manual.org/getinvolved/authors#install-texlive [01:56] splendid! thanks! Ill read up on it all [01:56] tomswartz07: Let me know if you hit any snags. [01:56] tomswartz07: One gotcha: Make sure that you have the TeX Live installer create the symlinks or you'll regret it. :-) [02:00] ok- i wont get to this till tomorrow, so ill def let you know [02:00] tomswartz07: No problem. Thanks for your help! [02:01] sure! :) [12:08] c7p, hey dude [12:09] hey nisshh, how are you ? [12:10] im good [12:10] and you? [12:14] fine :) [12:14] * c7p sorry for late response, i'm writing an e-mail [12:15] np [12:15] just grabbing the code now [12:15] have you looked on what chapter/ section could you work on ? [12:15] ah ok [12:16] well, you let me know what needs the most attention, ill be happy with that [12:17] before i stopped working on the manual completely, i was managing the credits and glossary [12:18] c7p, ^^^ [12:18] now i guess i manage credits as i assign the sections [12:18] godbyk, long time no see :) [12:18] c7p, yeah, thats cool [12:18] i guess you can work on glossary again [12:18] till now the chapter that i think needs an eye is troubleshooting [12:18] i would rather the content itself got worked on tbh, atleast right now [12:19] ok [12:19] if you want to update some sections of the chapter let me know [12:20] ok [12:20] can you give me a general idea of how far we are to a complete 11.10 manual? [12:20] just so i know roughly how much editing is required [12:21] installation chapter is think is almost finished [12:21] and the half ubuntu desktop chapter [12:21] is finished [12:22] ok [12:22] now that i check again the manual i think getting onlint sections needs rather an editor to make minor changes rather than an author [12:22] online section* [12:22] yeah [12:23] would you like to handle this section ? [12:23] you may check it first of course [12:23] tbh, im really happy to just hack away at all of it as an overall editor [12:24] although i guess focus on one section would be better for now [12:24] ill start with the getting online chapter [12:24] then ill do troubleshooting [12:25] c7p, since i work now i can mostly only work on this on the weekends though [12:25] splendid, let me know how the work goes [12:25] since i work full time [12:25] cool. [12:26] ok np [12:26] although i have time for an hour or two a night usually [12:26] Rick is the project leader now isnt he? [12:26] contribute whenever you feel better [12:27] yeah, for sure [12:27] we dont have project leader, rick is the Editor in Chief [12:27] ah ok [12:27] is that intentional or just because you dont have one currently? [12:27] i don't know [12:27] fair enough [12:28] whats his nick? [12:28] we voted for Editor in Chief before a half year, and there wasn't a need for a leader then -i guess- [12:28] hm [12:28] rickfsb i think [12:28] ok [12:28] i might shoot him an email [12:29] i really want to get this project moving fast again [12:29] not that it hasnt been :) [12:29] i found Rick's nick is rickfosb [12:30] cool [12:30] ok [12:31] i hope the section and not chapter assignations would help us to move fast [12:33] yeah [12:33] its certainly a good idea [12:41] far out, id forgotten how darn big tex live is [12:50] hehe [18:54] hey, nisshh! How's it going? [21:04] hello all [22:05] hey tomswartz07 [22:08] hey godbyk [22:27] hey, c7p. [22:27] what's up ? [22:29] not too much at the moment. seems like I'm getting a ton of email today. [22:30] how's it going with managing all the job applicants? [22:30] very time consuming [22:30] i got to respond to many people :P [22:30] but it goes very good [22:31] UbuntuOne is nice as tool also [22:32] when an author makes changes to a document and he saves them, they are uploaded automatically on the cloud [22:32] and automatically they are downloaded to my local machine [22:32] also a message pops up so i'm also notified [22:36] Excellent! [22:37] Hopefully allowing authors this new workflow will make things easier for them. [22:37] yeah i hope so [22:38] we got a mail in spanish ! do you know spanish ? [22:38] it's on the mailing list [22:39] godbyk: ah i forgot to mention !!!! [22:39] we have to remove some sections from the jobs list [22:39] jobs page * [22:40] the only section with no author is micro blogging [22:41] I just moderated the message and let it pass through to the mailing list. I don't know Spanish, but Google Translate said they were offering to help with the manual. I know we have a number of other Spanish-speaking folks on the mailing list, though, so hopefully they can jump in and help out. [22:41] c7p: Should I remove them entirely or strike them out with a line (i.e., draw a line through them)? [22:42] Which sections should I remove/leave on the jobs page? [22:43] i guess you could draw a line [22:43] microblogging only [22:43] Okay. [22:43] actually and additional software [22:43] 'kay [22:44] c7p: http://ubuntu-manual.org/jobs I stuck out 'The Ubuntu Desktop'. Do you like that or would you prefer that I remove them completely? [22:45] i hm [22:45] better remove ? [22:45] btw what if an author quits ? [22:45] It doesn't make too much difference to me. Whichever you think is less confusing. [22:46] shouldn't we have a list of available authors ? [22:46] better remove them [22:46] Hopefully we will have a pool of people waiting to take their place. [22:46] Okay, I'll remove them. [22:46] maybe you could write something about it on the jobs page [22:46] c7p: like this? http://ubuntu-manual.org/jobs [22:47] cool [22:47] as easy as possible :D [22:47] When you're emailing the people who are applying, perhaps you should ask if we can contact them to help fill in for an author that has to drop out. [22:47] Then we can keep their name on a list and contact them if we need them to fill in. [22:48] sure [22:50] We should probably also have a meeting sometime soon and establish our deadlines for the Oneiric manual. [22:50] what about arranging a meeting this weekend ? [22:51] the goal of it should be to answer the questions of new authors, editors [22:51] We can try. I'll be at my parents' house this weekend (lots of birthdays to celebrate), but I can probably attend a meeting. [22:51] and also to set deadlines [22:51] That's a good idea. [22:52] saturday or sunday, what fits you best ? [22:52] Should we email Rick and have him set up a poll? [22:52] Good question, let me check. [22:52] we can [22:55] I think we'll be having a family dinner Saturday night, but I'm not sure. [22:56] so sunday is better ? [22:59] Well, Sunday I may be driving back, so it's a bit of a toss-up. :-) [22:59] We should schedule the meeting whenever it makes the most sense for everyone else to attend. [22:59] I'll try to be there if I can, but my presence isn't really required. :) [23:00] :) ok [23:00] but new authors have to meet Kevin :D [23:01] nevermind let's hope we will get many people to attend it [23:01] with all these replies to the applicants i forgot to tell Rick about the new way of contribution :( [23:02] i hope he won't be angry on me [23:02] c7p: Not a problem. I think we had discussed it at a meeting once upon a time. [23:03] ok i feel obliged to send him a mail, i'm composing it [23:17] ok mail sent to Rick [23:20] 'kay. [23:25] i g2g goodnight [23:25] see you all [23:26] G'night, c7p.